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Top 10 Most Annoying Decks of All Time! 

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@jamesburrell392
@jamesburrell392 8 лет назад
"Eggs boils down to" that really made me laugh
@Bobby_357
@Bobby_357 7 лет назад
Each Deck: 10. Burn 0:28 9. The Deck 0:50 8. Fairies 1:34 7. Lantern Control 2:27 6. Cawblade 3:18 5. Miracles 4:14 4. Eggs 5:35 3. Thopter Depths 6:40 2. Icy Manipulator/Winter Orb 8:12 1. Flash Hulk 9:55
@BR4IN1N4J4R
@BR4IN1N4J4R 6 лет назад
I almost have to disagree with Burn. Compared to the rest of the list, Burn is fair. Sure, getting burned to 0 sucks, but a smart player can easily stomp a Burn deck
@deadso
@deadso 6 лет назад
5. CounterTop
@hughmungus99
@hughmungus99 5 лет назад
Jared Hays agreed
@topspinman1
@topspinman1 5 лет назад
all burn does is put you on a 4 turn clock. just like every other good modern deck
@dndbasement2370
@dndbasement2370 5 лет назад
@@BR4IN1N4J4R the problem in your logic, is "easily" it has been prooven times and times again, that gaining life do not stop burn. nor is taking him by speed. you have to play a control deck with enough counters and life gain to actualy stabilise, and stabilising is the hard part. i wouldn't call it fair, when you need a dedicated deck to kill a deck. we're not taling sideboard only here, you need dedicated cards in main deck to deal with it. burn is very far from fair, becuse it literally do not play with your opponent in mind. it only plays itself. reguardless of what the opponent plays. which is why the deck is annoying... this is why each decks in the top 10 is annoying, they dont interact with opponent, they just play their game withut a care in the world for what your opponent is playing. and while burn deck of old, with creatures could be stopped... by todays standard with everything that came out, unless you have a cop:red on the board, there is strickly nothing you can do to stop them except hope your life gain or your few counters will be enough for him to miss out on his draws.
@Thebrianweissman
@Thebrianweissman 7 лет назад
Worth a mention that "The Deck" was built originally in 1994, and was named that because it effectively solved the game at the time. Since there was nothing that could compete with it, it was the only reasonable thing to take to a tournament you wanted to win, Therefore, it was just The Deck. The original design predated the modern Internet by several years, which may be why you're confused about its creation date. Lots of lists were public online by 1996. Source: me.
@TravisWizard
@TravisWizard 8 лет назад
I used to play a blue white control with Island Sanctuary + Howling Mine + Forbid. not a good way to make friends
@philldclarke
@philldclarke 5 лет назад
Travis Wizard ovenomancer winding canyon.concorunt crossroads. And like being able to drop 9 lands per turn. People still hate that deck. Lol
@skylerpalakiko8052
@skylerpalakiko8052 5 лет назад
Travis Wizard my white black death and taxes ruined my friendship but I blame my friend for using reanimator decks
@johnsnow9210
@johnsnow9210 5 лет назад
Make friends in your AD&D group.
@scammbledeggs2707
@scammbledeggs2707 4 года назад
Why I hate blue
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 3 года назад
As a cardboard sadist of the highest and most shameful order, Owling Mine is the most fun deck I've ever played and my only regret is it was table banned in my group far too soon. RiP Owling Mine, we hated you before we really knew you, and that's probably for the best.
@Veiwer77
@Veiwer77 8 лет назад
I was sure Stasis lock would be number one. Stasis prevents everything from untapping, Kismet tapped everything that came into play, and chronatog ate every one of your turns. So you deck them without doing anything.
@carlwinslo
@carlwinslo Год назад
I used to play that deck against the cpu in the Windows 98 version of Duels of the Planeswalkers.
@zaq001
@zaq001 8 лет назад
"You put protein hulk into play"
@commandercody1078
@commandercody1078 5 лет назад
zaq001 Haha, I was picturing a bodybuilder when I heard that.
@mythicmtgtech
@mythicmtgtech 8 лет назад
Very solid list, well explained for the combos.
@hundredpercentjuice
@hundredpercentjuice 8 лет назад
Why did you have the weak version of the Hulk Flash combo? Also, no four horseman? Or does the shadow ban take it off your list?
@alextegmark1678
@alextegmark1678 8 лет назад
Where the hell is Stasis?
@Emperor_Atlantis
@Emperor_Atlantis 8 лет назад
gotta love statis. trolling spikes is the best
@MTGDegree
@MTGDegree 8 лет назад
+Alex Tegmark Stasis is similar enough to the Winter Orb decks that it wasn't included, I didn't want two very similar strategies taking up 20% of the video :p For the record though - Stasis is extremely annoying.
@alextegmark1678
@alextegmark1678 8 лет назад
MTG Degree Ok, that makes sense. xD Also, I didn't know that about old artifacts. Now the errata makes sense! : )
@Astronomater
@Astronomater 8 лет назад
+Alex Tegmark that is my all time most hated deck for sure!
@colinnichols3569
@colinnichols3569 8 лет назад
I watched this video specifically see stasis and was quite disappointed
@doGdoGman47
@doGdoGman47 8 лет назад
2:01 Great choice of placement.
@MTGDegree
@MTGDegree 8 лет назад
+doGdoGman47 Thank you lol :) Sometimes the imported images don't actually get the final editing. This happens rarely, but always when I'm editing tired xD
@doGdoGman47
@doGdoGman47 8 лет назад
Understood. I just found it funny.
@karlstone297
@karlstone297 8 лет назад
+MTG Degree I thought it was on purpose.
@kennyhall9638
@kennyhall9638 8 лет назад
+doGdoGman47 I thought about bringing that up too
@cripson114
@cripson114 7 лет назад
You should look at Necro Donate and I think Mishras Workshop with lodestone golem and chalice
@troy242621
@troy242621 8 лет назад
One word, one number, LOTS of hatred. 8 Rack.
@dinosaurfilms7425
@dinosaurfilms7425 8 лет назад
+troy242621 It's called h8 rack m8.
@ragnarokda206
@ragnarokda206 8 лет назад
+troy242621 idk I kind of like 8 rack but honestly it's probably just because it's a unique way to win the game.
@GuyThatCantSing
@GuyThatCantSing 8 лет назад
+troy242621 dude, 8 rack is awsome. i dont play it but my friend does. its balanced, its unique and its fun both to play and play against.
@LS-wy4bk
@LS-wy4bk 7 лет назад
one card, leyline of santity
@vichitwood
@vichitwood 6 лет назад
troy242621 nah it is countered way too easily
@xxyxxyyyx
@xxyxxyyyx 7 лет назад
But what do you do with the flash hulk deck if you dont draw gemstore or the 2 cards to exile???
@DuncanEllis
@DuncanEllis 8 лет назад
that was funny. Thank you for explaining Eggs - I'd heard of it but not come across an explanation of its mechanics. I'm interested in the decks that lead to cards getting banned: for example, what made Birthing Pod get banned recently? It was not in that many decks, so what was the trigger deck for getting the card banned? Thanks for lots of great videos.
@MTGDegree
@MTGDegree 8 лет назад
+Duncan Ellis (Dunx) No problem, I enjoy making them! Birthing Pod is an interesting card - and it did constitute a reasonably large portion of modern. While it wasn't unreasonably dominant, the card had an inherent problem. The problem with Birthing Pod is that it had an infinitely high power ceiling - as better creatures were printed, Birthing Pod would get better and better. With Wizards wanting to move away from non-creature spells and make more powerful creatures in new sets, this card would get stronger in a hurry. I wouldn't speculate on Birthing Pod - that card is never getting unbanned. Hope that helped explain!
@DuncanEllis
@DuncanEllis 8 лет назад
+MTG Degree that makes sense - it wasn't that it was endemic (unlike Dig out a Treasure Cruise) but that it would warp the format around itself as new cards were printed. Thank you.
@DuncanEllis
@DuncanEllis 8 лет назад
+UknownSoldier thank you, that helped a lot.
@mandykarevicius9746
@mandykarevicius9746 6 лет назад
My favorite deck was my boyfriend's white weenie. ...Oh, wait.
@krysisn
@krysisn 5 лет назад
I bet
@dominicking3217
@dominicking3217 6 лет назад
How is sword of the meek and thopter foundry and infinite combo? Dosent it need ashnods altar or krark clan ironworks to get enough mana?
@Jacuz
@Jacuz 6 лет назад
i played almost nothing of MTG but you explained this decks really well. good video
@xanadudeboston3344
@xanadudeboston3344 5 лет назад
I miss playing the Flash decks. In both Vintage and Legacy, you were always on edge. It could go from dead to amazing in a few seconds.
@KleineKassiopeia
@KleineKassiopeia 8 лет назад
Stasis is also hell to play against! Luckily it's not being played anymore. I also played HumiltyLandstill in the legacy with HulkFlash (thats how we said it ;) ), and HumilityLandstill is also quite annoying to play against. It sometimes also had counter-top
@kaxn
@kaxn 7 лет назад
I very much enjoyed this video. You have a good voice for videos ! :)
@dson8571
@dson8571 7 лет назад
I was checking before you mentioned but on Wizards site Thopter Foundry and Sword of the Meek are not banned, did they take it off the ban list?
@MTGDegree
@MTGDegree 7 лет назад
Talk about research! Yes, Sword was unbanned :)
@lastofusclips5291
@lastofusclips5291 8 лет назад
Should mention Stasis
@JesterNR1
@JesterNR1 7 лет назад
mmm, dat stasis/kismet(or frozen aether)/ time elemental combo IS delicious.
@davidsidney725
@davidsidney725 7 лет назад
LastOfUsClips I still run kismet stasis and mono blue chronatog stasis. they are like the Mario party 3 of magic.
@releasethedogs
@releasethedogs 7 лет назад
chronotog and that one land card from Ice Age with CU: 2 life prevent all damage
@clv603
@clv603 7 лет назад
LastOfUsClips I read down the comments expecting stasis to be listed. there weren't as many magic players when the Mirage block was "standard" as it was called type 2 back then. When Mirage was type 2 legal it was fucking brutal. almost as bad as necropotence from Ice Age. Take it from an old ass nerd, standard has it good these days lol
@Lacokaferdl
@Lacokaferdl 7 лет назад
i want to try this combo against friends (stasis-aether-chrona) - someone know a good deck ?
@Pieman_307
@Pieman_307 8 лет назад
Why no stax or turbo stasis?
@greeneking77
@greeneking77 8 лет назад
How often does the protean hulk 1st turn kill come up? once every 5 games or more often?
@sdmayday
@sdmayday 6 лет назад
There is a fascinating correlation between your top 10 and my favourite decks of all time! :D I do miss stasis and turbo fog however.
@baronvonbeandip
@baronvonbeandip 2 года назад
A fellow Turbo Fog enjoyer. I tip my hat to you, good sir.
@joshb1576
@joshb1576 8 лет назад
Wait... no Stasis on this list? Wasn't it table flip time when they untapped and you never did?
@kojinko
@kojinko 8 лет назад
Wow, very informative and entertaining
@MTGDegree
@MTGDegree 8 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed it! :D
@davidsidney725
@davidsidney725 7 лет назад
GG Degree wouldn't stasis be the same thing as icy manipulator? I can see why you listed manipulator though as it uses less cards
@antwanwarious9653
@antwanwarious9653 7 лет назад
Stasis is a little different. No untap phase at all while stasis is in play.
@jackbauer555
@jackbauer555 5 лет назад
what im confused about flash hulk deck is howcome when you remove you spirit guide from your hand do you get to satisfy both requirements? Like you get to remove a card from your hand from gemstone caverns, and remove the card from your hand for the mana? The reason I am confused is cause I play standard MTGA and I know when someone forces me to sacrifice a creature and i have fanatical firebrand, it doesn't allow me to sacrifice my creature and do the 1 damage while at the same time satisfying the sacrifice creature requirement my opponent casted. how come it gets to work here?
@rextheconqueor9307
@rextheconqueor9307 5 лет назад
If Gemstone is in your opening hand you may put it into play before starting the game, while spirit guides can be exiled from your hand for mana. Resulting in two mana to do the combo.
@isaacvalmont7672
@isaacvalmont7672 8 лет назад
Is there a way you could give us the decklists, i would like to build them for casual fun (I already have the latern on modern) yes i know, im a very bad person for asking this Thanks in advance
@wintersoldier909
@wintersoldier909 5 лет назад
If I had made this video it would have only been 10 seconds long. *Intro* *Title card* top 10 most annoying decks of all time (Stares blankly into camera) Blue. *end credits*
@MrFIRESEAL117
@MrFIRESEAL117 4 года назад
Let's face it, blue deck players are the scum of magic. it's very hard to have an enjoyable game against a blue deck.
@8bitenial313
@8bitenial313 4 года назад
@@MrFIRESEAL117 lol you must be a Pokemon player lost in Magic. Go cry elsewhere. There are plenty of decks to crush blue. But maybe your intelligence is not enought to play with or against blue.
@canalpakenodeisxculo
@canalpakenodeisxculo 4 года назад
@@MrFIRESEAL117 Hahahha! Have you ever played mtg?
@MrFIRESEAL117
@MrFIRESEAL117 4 года назад
@@8bitenial313 sorry if I wounded you with my comment bitch boy. It's true, blue deck players are pretty much reviled.
@Kronofobik
@Kronofobik 4 года назад
@@MrFIRESEAL117 In any Vintage or Legacy tournament, blue is present in 75% of decks. This is because manipulating your cards and your opponent movements is playing magic more in depth. Not mono blue decks, but using tools like Force of Will, Ponder, Stifle... allows you to play with more strategy.
@NicksVideoDiary
@NicksVideoDiary 8 лет назад
Stasis???
@00squid00
@00squid00 8 лет назад
+Nicholas Schreck This is the comment i was looking for. I think status deserved a shout out at the very least!
@michaelknight8459
@michaelknight8459 6 лет назад
Yeah I agree, also mentions burn but no land destruction?
@dbspaceoditty
@dbspaceoditty 6 лет назад
land destruction isnt as bad as having land and not being allowed to use it...you feel?
@dndbasement2370
@dndbasement2370 5 лет назад
stasis, stacks, storm, you name em... there is much more decks that would get in the top 10 of my list then these... dont get me wrong these were great back in their time... but many of them are easily countred by todays standard.
@johnspencer7838
@johnspencer7838 5 лет назад
@@dndbasement2370 absolutely. This looks like a list made by a player who doesn't know cards pre kamagawa.
@onemadhungrynomad
@onemadhungrynomad 6 лет назад
how did you not include the classic stasis/time elemental deck? that's been a strong control combo since legends was released...
@kronusexodues7283
@kronusexodues7283 5 лет назад
it has been a long time since this video, but would you mind doing a sequal with (competitively viable) decks that are fun to play against?
@ellahazan-fuchs7249
@ellahazan-fuchs7249 8 лет назад
Add Ashnod's Altar to the thopter combo and get actually infinite thopters!
@MrJerichoPumpkin
@MrJerichoPumpkin 6 лет назад
or Ironworks
@10dillrod
@10dillrod 8 лет назад
I feel that affinity should have made on there
@lucasa.l.k.8682
@lucasa.l.k.8682 7 лет назад
But how would the Hulk Flash combo work with summoner's pact ?
@nonewmsgs
@nonewmsgs 8 лет назад
if i love lantern control for modern and was looking at making dark depths for legacy, does this make me a bad person?
@nonewmsgs
@nonewmsgs 8 лет назад
+horsey not a knight and back in te day i did abuse some winter orb/icy manips
@sethwilliams8625
@sethwilliams8625 6 лет назад
"This deck had two infinite combos" Neither of the combos are infinite lol
@karaiyn
@karaiyn 8 лет назад
Where is summer bloom?
@dickjohnson9996
@dickjohnson9996 5 лет назад
i don't understand why exiling a card with gemstone mine allows the activated ability of the spirit guides to work, i was under the impression that you couldn't get "double value" from mechanics like this? example: if 2 creatures have a sacrifice ability, you can't sacrifice 1 creature to get both sacrifice abilities? the spirit guides aren't triggered. (that would make sense, meaning IF they get exiled, then you get the mana) but they are activated, which means YOU have to exile them, which means you still need to pitch a card for gemstone's ability. can someone explain?
@ArcticShallRule
@ArcticShallRule 5 лет назад
Correct, it's one or the other, not both. They're mistaken on how it works.
@dickjohnson9996
@dickjohnson9996 5 лет назад
@@ArcticShallRule you know what i just realized he meant to do both, as in exile a random card for the caverns, AND exile the guide also
@codelicious6590
@codelicious6590 8 лет назад
Great vid! Absolutely great!
@valakutis
@valakutis 8 лет назад
What about the channel fireball deck back in the day
@turn2moon
@turn2moon 8 лет назад
that was my first though
@turn2moon
@turn2moon 8 лет назад
+Curtis Heater thought
@TheNothingsOriginal
@TheNothingsOriginal 7 лет назад
Don't forget to fork it.
@GeneChiu
@GeneChiu 6 лет назад
Channel was restricted pretty quickly which limits your chance of drawing it.
@jasonh2954
@jasonh2954 6 лет назад
That deck caused my friends to stop playing. Plenty of 5 turn kills in ~1996.
@SonictheBedHog
@SonictheBedHog 8 лет назад
I went and built these decks online... I'm so good now.
@joshshin6819
@joshshin6819 5 лет назад
Sure. But on a block list.
@12DEVON34
@12DEVON34 8 лет назад
the thopter foundry/sword of the meek combo. how is it infinite if you have to pay 1 colorless to sacrifice the sword of meek? I must be missing something.
@Phrosume
@Phrosume 7 лет назад
Why you didn't mention Dredge instead of any of those 3 (out of 10) UW Controlbuilds?
@MikesUltimatum
@MikesUltimatum 8 лет назад
How dare you remind me of standard fairies. I still have PTSD from playing in Llorwyn standard.
@cleliaoconnell3705
@cleliaoconnell3705 8 лет назад
I play faeries in modern :)
@shmergulflargamish7686
@shmergulflargamish7686 8 лет назад
Faeries... *Shivers*
@drock1717
@drock1717 7 лет назад
It's unbox therapy
@AeonAxisProductions
@AeonAxisProductions 8 лет назад
icy manipulator+winter orb reminds me of curse of exhaustion+knowledge pool
@ZakanaHachihaCBC
@ZakanaHachihaCBC 8 лет назад
Curse of Exhaustion/Eidolon Rhiortic/Rule of Law and to an extent the AEthersoworn Canonist
@TomGalonska
@TomGalonska 8 лет назад
+DeanGuitarsForLife! It's the same idea, and it can be annoying to play agains curse+pool, but the curse+pool-lock deck is way harder to pull of
@chrismarsh1890
@chrismarsh1890 6 лет назад
Knowledge pools, can clone it a few times if you want, plus crappy low cost instants. Take your opponents deck and leave them with garbage.
@aldersgrens
@aldersgrens 8 лет назад
Fantastic video man!
@77LIGHTSABER
@77LIGHTSABER 7 лет назад
Good job. That old lock deck was called "Icy Prison" and yes it was the first thing that came to mind before I even watched so good job.
@alienplatypus7712
@alienplatypus7712 8 лет назад
Seriously why wasn't land destruction one here though?
@JesterNR1
@JesterNR1 7 лет назад
heh. my favorite land destruction combo is acid rain (destroy all forests) + crystal spray (change land type or color word of any card). so i can destroy all of any Type of land I want :p. ( can also use shimmering mirage instead of Crystal spray but I like CS' s versatility)
@Bulhakas
@Bulhakas 7 лет назад
I'm guessing that dedicated land destruction isn't here because it's far too slow of a strategy to be anywhere close to competitive MtG.
@jasonh7128
@jasonh7128 7 лет назад
I agree, although ponza was a thing in standard. It just wasn't played enough to gain much notoriety.
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 6 лет назад
Just get your lands Shroud and play Kudzu on an opponents land. Opponent will have to think twice before tapping. And you are guaranteed to kill their lands. But I doubt that most players have Spiritual Asylum, which give all your lands and creatures Shroud. Seeing as it's from Nemesis. It's annoying to play against though. Both Kudzu and Spiritual Asylum can be tutored with Enlightened Tutor. Toss in Idyllic Tutor if you need to. Finishers for that deck well, you could Flash Rector in an Omniscience to Emrakul, the Aeons Thorn. I mean There are a lot of defensive strategies you could use in that deck. I mean you technically don't need the combo of Spiritual Asylum and Kudzu, but yeah.. It certainly makes it more annoying.
@GeneChiu
@GeneChiu 6 лет назад
Sinkhole was the fast targeted land destruction card. I played against it back in my day casually, but it was already out of print. Every other targeted land destruction was 3 mana or more. It was certainly annoying and the one I built was rather effective, but I didn't play competitively. From what I recall, land destruction was never really dominant in the competitive scene. Also, most players used very low cost spells back then. With 2 land in play, you could get some decent threats into play. Targeted land destruction can be defeated with a deck of many low cost spells and many decks had enough low cost spells to be able to play enough to defeat targeted land destruction. I have a Icy Manipulator/Winter Orb deck. I supplement it with Armageddon and artifact mana. I also have a deck based around Armageddon. I think land destruction and Stasis fit within the same category as Icy Orb. They are all mana control decks which is actually may favourite types of decks. I rarely play them as I understand how annoying they can be.
@lukeovermire7
@lukeovermire7 8 лет назад
Stasis was the most annoying deck I played against.
@TheRealHanzan
@TheRealHanzan 8 лет назад
is that aggro-ctrl deck still avaible?:o
@levihayden4880
@levihayden4880 8 лет назад
Is there a set list for the Flash Hulk deck?
@gabrielfrassy802
@gabrielfrassy802 8 лет назад
why mirrodin standard affinity isnt on this list?
@egyptcraze
@egyptcraze 8 лет назад
+Gabriel Frassy Good Question! I want to know as well
@liberkhaos5978
@liberkhaos5978 8 лет назад
+Gabriel Frassy This isn't about powerful decks that are hard to beat. It's about annoying ones. You know, like sitting in front of an egg player who takes 30 minutes to do their combo.
@ultratog1028
@ultratog1028 8 лет назад
+Liber Khaos Okay, then Why isnt Stasis on the list? Or Land Destruction?
@liberkhaos5978
@liberkhaos5978 8 лет назад
+ultratog1028 Because the author doesn't think them as annoying, has never faced them or plays a style that disrupt those decks. Or you know, because he didn't think about it. Whatever the case it hardly matters. It's a top ten based on a subjective topic. There's probably a casual player out there wondering why Zubera Caretaker isn't on the list.
@Falcrist
@Falcrist 8 лет назад
+Liber Khaos Then the title of the video should be "10 decks that are annoying to me" rather than "Top 10 Most Annoying Decks of All Time!"
@MrMagmaman007
@MrMagmaman007 8 лет назад
More budget modern deck techs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@cha0sr1pper
@cha0sr1pper 8 лет назад
Squirrel Nest + Earthcraft, as well as Stuffy Doll + Druid's Call + Blasting Station both can be in the same deck, and both are infinite combos. if you manage to drop a Llanowar elves or the like, first combo can be done on turn 3, second on turn 4, but the draws would have to be insanely good for that
@Zmann86
@Zmann86 8 лет назад
explain to me the interaction of gemstone caverns and either elvish spirit guide or simian spirit guide? Why would you get the mana for exiling either to the gemstone cavern? The cards don't say "any time this card is exiled, put 1 mana in your mana pool" they require you to exile them for their own requirement. Gemstone caverns is telling you to exile a card for its requirement, I just don't understand why you'd get the mana in that situation. Here's what I'm relating it to. Player A has an Eldrazi Scion in play (it says sacrifice it and you put 1 colorless mana in your mana pool, it's a 1/1, that's all) and Player B plays a card that makes Player A sacrifice a creature. You can NOT sacrifice the scion to that card and also gain the mana, so why is it different for these other cards interactions? Thanks :)
@MTGDegree
@MTGDegree 8 лет назад
+Zach In this case, you're exiling a card in your hand to gemstone mines that you don't need for the combo. Then you are exiling either spirit guide to make an additional mana. So to make the two mana, you need three cards. What I'm saying is, your understanding is correct. That's not what I was attempting to say in the video. Other people might have the same impression though and come to the comments, so I'm glad we could work it out. See you next video! :)
@jojoyojimbi
@jojoyojimbi 8 лет назад
stasis, kismet and chronotog was my favorite back when
@johnsnow9210
@johnsnow9210 5 лет назад
Perfect way to be an Ahole back when we had cash prizes for weekend tournaments.
@andycates7923
@andycates7923 8 лет назад
Where is Stasis?!?!
@marlinbundo2409
@marlinbundo2409 7 лет назад
How does thopter foundry go infinite when it costs 1 mana per thopter?
@VocaloidRules101
@VocaloidRules101 5 лет назад
Instead of second sunrise why not use Faith's reward? It does the same thing as second sunrise (eg. all permanents) but does not target your opponents to benefit as well, and it's still a "this turn" kinda regeneration card for one more mana than second sunrise. I mean do correct me if i'm wrong, all your artifacts were previously from the battlefield so it still counts in the rules text right?
@Topples7
@Topples7 8 лет назад
Miracles isn't oppressive, people want Sensei's Top banned because decks with it go to the time limit too often Also thopter sword isn't an infinite combo
@complexemotions338
@complexemotions338 5 лет назад
Nice avatar
@egyptcraze
@egyptcraze 8 лет назад
Abzan standard is pretty annoying. I'm sick of siege rhino - and I BARELY play standard! lol
@anderskjllesdalhansen9580
@anderskjllesdalhansen9580 8 лет назад
Siege Rhino is actually getting a downswing right now. The reason Abzan was so powerfull wasn't actually because of Siege Rhino, but because the most powerfull cards in standard were Elspeth, Thoughtseize, Kourser of Cruphix and Siege Rhino and the only deck you could put those into were Abzan
@egyptcraze
@egyptcraze 8 лет назад
+Anders Kjøllesdal Hansen you say that, and yet the damned rhino just won the BFZ protour
@everdeeny
@everdeeny 8 лет назад
+egyptcraze my rhino rage forced me away from standard it's such an annoying card i found i was always thinking 'how can i handle siege rhino' whilst building decks and that just sucks. #abzanmentality got me crazy
@modernminded5466
@modernminded5466 8 лет назад
+egyptcraze - A creature-based Grind- machine? How is that annoying.
@Threewulphmoon
@Threewulphmoon 8 лет назад
+Mos Maskinen its more annoying than faeries
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 7 лет назад
Flash hulk had better variants with karmic guide, carrion feeder, which lets you bring the hulk back and sacrifice to carrion feeder along with Karmic guide to get revelark to get karmic guide back to get hulk back to sacrifice to get other stuff and win. In Vintage, Flash hulk was allowed for almost a year and the best version was poison Slivers with Virulent slivers and Heart Sliver. You could just hard cast and beat down with your slivers in some match ups and/or if some were in your hand. Loved the Vintage build of the deck.
@fahqueue3808
@fahqueue3808 2 года назад
Back in the early 00's I swear my friend had a deck called the Ravens Egg deck but I can't seem to find ANYTHING about it and he passed away in the early 13. Can Anyone fill me in if this is a Mandala effect deck I'm remembering that didn't exist or....???
@Knuffeldraak
@Knuffeldraak 8 лет назад
I don't know why Burn is hated so much. It's literally THE theme of Red; speed and aggro, and on top of that it's very easy to learn as a starter. If you don't like Burn, you shouldn't play Magic, because red is a big part of the game.
@VageG0zer
@VageG0zer 8 лет назад
Same logic then goes to blue as well. Countering spells and bouncing creatures is a big part of blue.
@Knuffeldraak
@Knuffeldraak 8 лет назад
That's just the game. And takes a damn good hand to actually get a turn-3 kill.
@shmergulflargamish7686
@shmergulflargamish7686 8 лет назад
Some people hate Green because it plays several 8/8's on turn 5.
@Knuffeldraak
@Knuffeldraak 8 лет назад
Terrastomper, Terrastodon, Imperiosaur...
@MyYouTube30335
@MyYouTube30335 8 лет назад
I can have 36 mana easily on turn 8, 18 on an average hand for turn 5
@ShadowFlame249
@ShadowFlame249 8 лет назад
infect decks....
@kaotickarma4425
@kaotickarma4425 5 лет назад
phyrexian hydra.... 7/7 with infect for a total of 5 mana.
@graysonswan5799
@graysonswan5799 4 года назад
I play it
@Lightman0359
@Lightman0359 8 лет назад
Fruity Pebbles, it was from one of the first extended seasons, around 96 I think when Extended was Ice age block, Tempest block, Rath Block and 4th edition + Chronicles, + for some random reason: the real Dual Lands. Fruity Pebbles was R/U/W running Ornithopter, the 0/3 artifact creature from tempest for 0 and any other 0 cost creatures. the Kill was Enduring Renewal + Goblin bombardment, allowing you to sac the thopters for 1 damage, return them to your hand with Renewal and replay for free, they could go off as early as turn 2 or 3 with lion's eye diamond/lotus petals/elvish spirit guide, protected by force of will. This combo got Enduring Renewal not banned but had a line errata'd onto it: "at the beginning of your end step..."
@toolthegreat
@toolthegreat 8 лет назад
+Lightman0359 there is a modern version that uses Enduring Renewal + Grinding Station (or Blasting Station) + Ornithopter (or Memnite). It is nowhere near competitive as the original was back in its day, but it's still annoying enough when you lose to it.
@treasureberry7154
@treasureberry7154 7 лет назад
How did that combo ever work? It needs like 4 cards
@releasethedogs
@releasethedogs 7 лет назад
No stasis?
@trevamcweezy
@trevamcweezy 8 лет назад
for real stasis should be on this list lol
@ShadeScarecrow
@ShadeScarecrow 7 лет назад
Wait, I think I don´t understand converted mana cost. Wouldn´t 12 cards with 1 mana cost each have a converted mana cost of 12??? Or do the X Mana artifact creatures not count?
@burn1none
@burn1none 6 лет назад
when calculating the converted mana cost of a spell X is equal to 0
@cornxx3
@cornxx3 7 лет назад
can we get a reprint of moat please??? been wanting one for so long but it's soooo expensive!
@akakj7
@akakj7 8 лет назад
lol no stasis
@purplehaze2444
@purplehaze2444 8 лет назад
stasis is more annoying than lantern control
@joshuanewcombe8454
@joshuanewcombe8454 6 лет назад
Why is the Stasis deck not on this list or manowar control?
@Ton-qg9ol
@Ton-qg9ol 8 лет назад
Hey dude keep this up its great. Could you maybe to show an eldrazi/artifact creature deck.
@MiscGunnery
@MiscGunnery 8 лет назад
Stasis isn't in the top 10. List is invalid.
@vogel664
@vogel664 8 лет назад
The four horseman deck should be top 1 Search for it and you will see
@1337squid4hire
@1337squid4hire 8 лет назад
+vogel664 Agreed. That deck is an abomination.
@solomonbundy2795
@solomonbundy2795 8 лет назад
+vogel664 That deck is essentially banned because it is impossible to guarantee that you will finish the combo in a reasonable amount of time, that is if you're playing emrakul in it.
@MrCogwheels
@MrCogwheels 8 лет назад
+vogel664 Secret paladin is also annoying
@shackyl
@shackyl 8 лет назад
excellent video! want more!
@thedickens6490
@thedickens6490 6 лет назад
a few others that gave me fits back in the day: -any affinity build(pre disciple ban) -TEPS, and any variant -turboMill/turboStasis -dredge(guaranteed game one win every single time) -
@JoyousUnicorn
@JoyousUnicorn 8 лет назад
Eggs boils down. Boiled eggs. Badum-tish. Ill let myself out.
@copticvillage
@copticvillage 8 лет назад
you can kill your opponent in modern before they play anything too
@MTGDegree
@MTGDegree 8 лет назад
+Dorion Fleming Not on the draw! :D
@copticvillage
@copticvillage 8 лет назад
true
@malmalfactor3544
@malmalfactor3544 8 лет назад
+MTG Degree Sliver should have made the list, they are making a "all slivers you control have indestructible" card.
@InResponse
@InResponse 8 лет назад
+Sweg Key that Sliver card was printed in M15.
@Devianto
@Devianto 8 лет назад
+MTG Degree Protean doesn't kill on the draw though? You require your main phase to play land, generate mana. I guess if you had 2 spirit guides (any) with a manamorphose, a flash and a protean hulk/summoners pact it would be possible though. But that requires 5/7 card of your opening hand to be exactly what you need. Also my Goryo's vengeance deck in modern has the potential to kill first turn before my opponent gets to play, it's rare, but it happens. Great video btw, never heard of "The deck" before hahaha, Kinda describes every legacy deck ever.
@EdwintheMagicEngineer
@EdwintheMagicEngineer 6 лет назад
I agree Stasis should be on this list. Winter Orb still shuts off when tapped, it was errated. Great video!
@belmontey4228
@belmontey4228 5 лет назад
I actually need help with a deck my friend has multiple copies of the power 9 and made a blue deck with 4 of them and all copies and I want to destroy it.
@SylviaMoonbeam1127
@SylviaMoonbeam1127 6 лет назад
Your pronunciationnot protean bothers me. It isn’t “protein hulk”. the word is pronounced “Pro-tee-an”, not “Pro-teen”. The flavor text may imply otherwise, but the ability makes it obvious Protean is the intent
@TheCrafter34Comments
@TheCrafter34Comments 8 лет назад
Most annoying deck of all time: Everything running blue.
@deathbower
@deathbower 8 лет назад
+TheCrafter34Comments the counter to people playing blue is to also play blue. You get the best games by far that way, especially is eternal formats :D
@recklessrenegade4164
@recklessrenegade4164 7 лет назад
just play a hexproof deck/uncounterable its far from a competitive deck...but I built one specifically to piss off control players
@clocktowers1
@clocktowers1 6 лет назад
Jojoforpres That's not the only way blue players have any fun and a gank is an awful and childish idea. After playing thing in the ice counter draw for a while I learned that it's not hard to actually play and beat a blue player. You just can't be a knucklehead and expect to shit out all the spells you want left and right without any repercussion.
@danacoleman4007
@danacoleman4007 6 лет назад
I love this game but I've always hated blue. I believe it is the strongest and most broken color. If the only way to combat something is by using that thing then the game has no balance. I would love to see a list from over all the years of competitive magic play of what decks have been the most winning by color. Don't get me wrong I still love this game I think it's a great game and I play it all the time. I also think it's a little bit of sour grapes on my part because I've always gravitated towards green which it seems to be the favorite color of the least Advanced players where blue is the color of the most advanced players
@nightingaleseraph
@nightingaleseraph 6 лет назад
Dana Coleman blue is balanced, there aren’t many viable mono blue decks. The only decks in legacy that are mono blue and somewhat viable are high tide and omnitell, and both of those are fragile decks. People like to complain about blue being overpowered or imbalanced, but forget that there are potent hate cards in every color.
@RetirededKat
@RetirededKat 5 лет назад
During Mirrodin block standard I ran Krark-clan Ironworks + 2x Myr Retriever + Dross Harvester. It wasn't the smoothest combo, or the most consistent, but ending the turn it came online by specifying 500,000,000,000 as the result of the infinite combo (and my health total) felt pretty good.
@dedfuk419
@dedfuk419 8 лет назад
I have a lot to learn still. This is great.
@cadeplaisance9511
@cadeplaisance9511 8 лет назад
the number 1 deck broke rules. it should have never been a thing on the first place.
@cadeplaisance9511
@cadeplaisance9511 8 лет назад
in the first place
@cadeplaisance9511
@cadeplaisance9511 8 лет назад
Yes it did. Read each individual card and listen to the strategy.
@stormchaser9738
@stormchaser9738 8 лет назад
+CADE PLAISANCE It didnt break any rules. Can you point to a specific illegal thing the deck did because I dont it. Start with gemstone cavern in play, tap it for blue and simian spirit guide, flash in protean hulk, it dies then you go ahead and get the creatures from protean hulk, since the x creatures technically have 0 cmc you can get as many x creatures as you want in addition to the four disciples. Nothing this deck did was illegal, just incredibly broken.
@Showsni
@Showsni 8 лет назад
+CADE PLAISANCE Well, the deck was only a thing because they removed the errata on Flash, changing it back to the printed version.
@keojin2208
@keojin2208 8 лет назад
+CADE PLAISANCE i agree lol but damn heck of a combo.
@bdawg8877
@bdawg8877 8 лет назад
Please don't say protean hulk ever again. The way you pronounce it is awful.
@shmupshmuppewpew5260
@shmupshmuppewpew5260 6 лет назад
Protein hulk
@davidnewman4678
@davidnewman4678 8 лет назад
There was a white black mill list I had that ran grinding station, enduring renewal and ornithopter. Backup combo of rest in peace and helm of obedience. The one black card was demonic tutor. "That's a nice deck you got there, turn it over"
@Beefman.0
@Beefman.0 6 лет назад
I remember beating my friend’s hulk flash deck with 2 archive traps after he used summoner’s pact, and made him discard 2 disciples of the vault, then the pact he played played him
@noahrecknagel7142
@noahrecknagel7142 3 года назад
"you may have outsmarted me, but I have outsmarted your outsmarting!"
@awizardwithwords994
@awizardwithwords994 2 года назад
10:18 "Don't play a land or anything, because I'm going to kill you right now." Made me laugh so hard
@ordinaryk
@ordinaryk 7 лет назад
Back in the mid-90s, a "friend" used to play a UB deck that relied on the combo Necropotence + Zur's Weirding, along with lots of counters to make sure the opponent never got to do anything. Ever. These days, the combo is rarely seen, since Necropotence is banned in all formats except Vintage, Ice Age Block, and EDH (anybody who tries necro-weirding in EDH will quickly have no friends to play EDH with).
@rodennis418
@rodennis418 7 лет назад
No Turbo Stasis or Jund?
@Volrath64
@Volrath64 7 лет назад
LOVED the list, oh I remember playing that epic Icy Manipulator/Winter Orb combo back in the good ol' Type1 days. Personally, I think Illusions of Grandeur/Donate should be in the top 5 - was my favourite deck to play as it just locks down your opponent, doubles your life, and gives your opponent a 1-3 turn clock before they have to sac the Donated Illusions from the cumulative upkeep cost of 2 and lose 20 life. Play it in a UR deck for some burn too just in case they decide to board in some lifegain ;) 0 creatures, 100% WINNING Edit: wording
@Paulthored
@Paulthored 8 лет назад
My favorite FnM game had two Platinum Angel's on opposite sides, with a Platinum Emperion backing up my opponents. :D Trepanning Blades on a Ferropede and some graveyard exile/land wipe shenanigans ended up with him down to literally just those two Platinum's in any non-exile zone before I re-drew(thank you Elixer of Immortality) my sole way to deal with non-attacking creatures.
@billyjoejimbobbubbaray9049
@billyjoejimbobbubbaray9049 6 лет назад
8:20 Icy manipulator in those days was a mono artifact. Being a "mono" artifact meant that you tapped it on use. The other term "poly" artifact meant that you did not tap it. However I have Used this combo many times in the past. It works exactly how you described it tap winter orb with icy untap everything. I Usually played this with stasis, twiddles, Ley druids., instill energy and later with Kismets.
@moridin812
@moridin812 8 лет назад
Interesting. I'm surprised that you didn't discuss the Hedron Crab/Sakura-Tribe Elder/Dryad Arbor variant of Flash Hulk.
@hotdogwater7037
@hotdogwater7037 5 лет назад
That f*cking finkula deck of the invasion/odyssey era, with counterspell, absorb, and undermine, meddling mage and shadowmage infiltrator, with orims chant and chainers edict did a great job of sucking all the fun out of playing mtg. It was loads of fun not doing anything, while being pinged by an unblockable 1/3 for 20 turns
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