My current vehicle is a 2002 Toyota Tundra, 4.7 V8, bought new, has 411,000 with virtually no repairs and pulls a construction trailer, boats and heavy loads of materials. Only alternator and radiator have needed replacement. For the previous 15 years before the Tundra, I drove a 1986 4-Runner that made it 417,000. I am certain the Tundra will exceed it, however.
Do you think most cars or trucks would reach that number of miles if the owners had their vehicles parts replaced or repaired as the miles rose? I mean a friend of mine has a 1988 240 Volvo with over 400,000 miles on it. But he’s chosen to keep that Volvo going by repairs. So if a vehicle isn’t going to make it to 200,00 was it considered that maybe the owner choose not to keep putting money into it. Just wondering folks.
That is generally the case. Even a legndary Toyota can be done in before it's time by a neglectful owner that thinks longevity of Toyotas is inherent. That the 400k or million mile mark can be achieved without sheltering, maintaining, cleaning, or upkeeping the car or truck in anyway. That also means no oil changes or filters. They paid for the best and the best needs no love in their mind. I have looked into this quite a bit and many owners have confessed they never had a car last beyond 150k miles. That he couldn't bring himself to spend good money after bad on a vehicle that needs major repairs. For Toyota Tundra, a starter is a major repair. As an example. Most Toyota owners would fix the starter and brag that their car or truck is almost completely original. If they have a similar problem with say... a Ram or a BMW. The owner will swear never to buy that brand again. They will also tell you those brands are crap. Even if the Ram's cost to repair a starter is 1/18th of what a Toyota costs and doing that repair will get you the same life expectancy. The owner will doom the vehicle.
Minsang1st probably the hybrid battery went bad and it may not have been worth fixing fixing components for the hybrid system is expensive. 200,000 miles out of a Prius is good
Señor Loco right, when the battery goes bad then it costs more to replace than the car is worth. Squeezing 225,000 miles out of a prius means you get your money’s worth.
I have a 2001 Toyota echo manual transmission that just hit 314003 miles Its my daily to go to work, feels really old but works for what I need it to do
Dunno why people rag on Jeep when the 4.0L straight 6 is also Legendary. I see them used hard and lasting just as long or longer than 4 runners. More capable and more powerful too.
With 410,000 miles, my 1993 Toyota T100 has a myriad of issues (drivetrain and electrical) and drives like garbage. Satisfying? No. My sentimental pet project? Yes.
Back in the 70's we used to call them Mexican Mobiles because the Mexican's would get those Mercs and Pimp them out to the max. Remember the dingle ball window curtains? . Consequently I stigmatized them as low budget old hoopie's . After I got old enough to drive I realized they drove like Cadillac's. A Po man's Caddy with lots of room, smooth on the road and you can chill to the max in them. In the Black community we rode the Buick Regency or that Olds Cutlass.
Hot Dogs u got that right brother. My 2005 lx is a friggin battle cruiser. 69thou old man miles, always garaged, perfect flawless condition. No price will get this thing out of my garage. It’s going to my brother in law when I pass.....He’s a car guy
chizzaler those straight inline 6 cylinder engines are great. You’d be surprised. My friend’s dodge with a 3.7 V6 has over 150k and he’s never done a tuneup to it. Still running strong and no issues.
I have an Element SC... It's been pretty reliable and is getting up there in years and miles. The SC model parts are weird/hard to find in some cases and have made for some expensive repairs. The other variants of the model are probably cheaper to maintain.
I have had four Avalon and two Lexus LS 400. Bullet PROOF. Comfort! Just great transportation all the way around! I upgraded on all of them, never got rid of them for breakdown! Just my favorite reliable autos.
I have had the same Teresa. 6 Toyotas and 2 Lexus. My LS400 was a dream to drive. No breakdowns. 1 alternator replacement 0 starters in 33 years of driving. Always upgraded never got rid of due to issues. Most sold at 200K. Just sold a 2002 Sienna with 228K. Just saw it recently with 246K. Most went 13-14 years never replacing transmission fluid. Never a transmission issue. Wised up in last 10 years and started replacing transmission fluid every 30K. Currently have CVT Camry so clean trans fluid is essential. Became a DIY maintenance owner about 14 years ago. Toyota for the win!!!
My buddy worked in several large car dealerships and his advice was I don't care what brand car it is always get the biggest engine offered they'll have less problems and last longer and I found it's always been true with all the cars and trucks I've had
So, just look for any Toyota or Lexus with a 3. 0L to 3.5L V6 engine. Preferrably with a timing chain instead of a belt. My 2004 Solara 3.3L V6 has 155k miles, computer says it gets 24-34 mpg, doesn't burn 1 drop of oil between changes, and still runs smooth.
I have a 2004 Honda Pilot and it has 232k miles.. just replaced struts and shocks. No power train issues. Just bought a es300 2002 Lexus with 137k miles and can't be any happier, runs great.
My 05 Honda pilot only has a little over 200k miles on the odometer, original engine and transmission, drives and shifts like new, hoping to get another 200k miles out of it.
Ike gas hog. Better off with the Rav4 hybrid because it has more horsepower than the regular one which runs on gasoline and is the most fuel efficient suv in its class. RAV4 hybrid comes with off-road capabilities
@@Enlightened2371 I dream offroading not plan. Even if i do very rare. I dont want to spend more then $15k. Rav4 is good but small, not that I need to haul or have family but its personal preference. Highlander might be best actually considering the size and smoother ride vs 4runner.
@@golferpro1241 Sounds great! I have my dad's 2001 blazer as back up. Got it for free but in 11 years I have spent 12,000 fixing things. Only 80,000 on it. Enjoy!
Best car I ever had was an 84 Honda CRX I bought new with 1.3 engine that got 40+ in town and almost 60 Hwy. I put 379K problem-free miles on it, was moving across country, couldn't sell it because of the hi-miles so I scrapped it.
I am a bit short on miles. My 2012 4 Runner Trail had 258,000 on it. Still purrs until it needs to growl. Next year I'll send my odometer reading in. I figure 25% of those miles were off road. It is horrible being retired and being forced to enjoy life.
I have been using Consumer Reports for decades and these books a a gold mine of Real information as are the Lemon Aid Guide series of books at any library, not in here.👍👍
I just had my oil changed at Piazza Honda of Philadelphia. The service manager was telling me that another service manager there had an Element that went to over 400,000 miles.
I love Avalons I love toyota. I have 97 avalon (218k) when I bought it in very bad shape but I brought it back to life it has 244k on it now. I'm looking forward to million miles!!!!!!!! #TeamToyota
Spot on Bill regarding the Toyota Avalon. I just bought a 2012 Avalon Ltd after my 2004 Town Car got me to 200k. As for LS430s, Ibhave learned from Scotty the V8s are costly to repair after they get higher mileage. That is what turned me from the LS430 to the Avalon.
There's a guy with a 2007 Chevy dually with the Duramax diesel who hit one million miles ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v8SNMebcb5Q.html
While manufacturing and engineering certainly plays a huge role, I suspect the owners themselves play a large role in vehicle reliability. Person A: Invests more money into a vehicle that is less impressive on paper, but that is produced by a known-reliable brand. Person B: Buys the cheaper option that has all the bells and whistles, that is also likely larger and has more horsepower. There's going to differences in how these two individuals drive, how much effort they put into caring for their investment, and likely their financial means TO care for their investment. The Tundra buyer and the Ram buyer are two different kinds of people, and I think that dynamic amplifies the reliability issue.
Maybe it also has to do with the design. I just bought two 2010 Corollas for my kids and they are really easy to work on yourself compared with the Jeep and Ford they had before. Together with less corrosion that's a blast to work on them.
I have a '04 Jeep Cherokee 98k mi, ' 94 Nissan D21 219k mi , 83k mi Chevy k2500, and 2000 Ram 1500 with 244k miles. I got them all fairly cheap and I do all my own maintenance and repairs. All are fairly easy to work on. All of them are 4x4. They are all well built. Chyrsler makes a fantastic pickup. My ram has all Denso fans, and electronics, the computer is Motorola. I have switches going bad now on the Ram but it's 20 years old and I am the 3rd owner I think. I am 100% convinced that brand might have very little to do with longevity. I believe based on experience that percieved value and brand loyalty are what makes Toyotas and in my area Chevys so beloved and cared for. Where a Ram will get no money spent on it at all. The Chevy or Toyota gets kept in a garage, washed regularly and given synthetic oil changes with good filters. The Ram will get left outside, under a tree, crapped on and crapped in. The Ram will get terrible gas, Quaker state oil changes at Walmart for $19. If the owner decided to pull a battle ship out of the water for repairs. They will hook the Ram to it and have it do the work. Which it will do. Afterwards it will break down. The Chevy or Tundra will be nearly unused for work and babied in a garage while the Rams I see do all the hard work. Want a real life example? I wanted a tree topped so I call up a contractor. A mexican shows up with a Dodge Caravan towing a Bob Cat on a dual axle trailer for this job. The boss shows up later in a spanking new F250 Super Duty with a diesel engine. I asked why he didn't tow the bobcat. His truck was made for that task. Not the Dodge Caravan. He told me " my truck doesn't tow anything". Amazing! He had the tow package too.
I love those 4.0s and im no Jeep guy but man that truly is right there with Toyota....my sister has the 3.6 and its ok but does look to last more than 185k.
Hm. a) Clickbait title- listing 300K outliers is not really a representative of the group and has zero scientific method value; b) "Most satisfying to drive"? How many gearheads lust for ANY of these?!? Those are all very reliable but boring vehicle to drive. (example: 4-runner is widely criticized for being underpowered); e) Not a single domestic vehicle raises an eyebrow - anything Panther platformed is well know to outlast 200K easily; ditto for LSx car/truck/SUV. Same for most of diesel pickup trucks, almost regardless of the manufacturer; d) Nissan? The company that is about to fold because of years of QUALITY issues?! Whole study reeks of bias, and I would love to see which method did they used to sample this. It seems that CR had a guy swing buy toyota and Honda service department and ask people in the lobby how they like their vehicles. People fall for this Cosmopolitan-level of "research"?
@@dollarbill5859 to repeat myself: No gearhead would drive any of those vehicles as "play car". And as far as Detroit iron...ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v8SNMebcb5Q.html
I purchased a 2006 Tundra 4X4 (access cab) from my father, who no longer drives because of advanced age. He is a retired mechanic. The vehicle has spent most of its life garaged. It had 34,800 miles when I purchased it. Since the miles were so low on the odometer, he wanted 15k. This price included tools and quality jumper cables. I gave him 15K.
Toyota Tacoma can last over 700k miles and Toyota Camrys last forever except for the 2002/2003 with head bolt problems and 2007-2009 have excessive oil consumption.
Wife's '08 Rav4 (V6, AWD, 3rd row seat) has 244,500 and is running so strong we are giving it to our daughter whose '07 Subi Forester just blew it's boxer engine with only 175k on it. Oh, and we just took delivery of our 3rd Rav4 - a '20 Hybrid XSE in Blizzard Pearl and black roof - probably the coolest looking Rav4 ever. Did I just call a Rav4 cool looking...I'm getting old!
I bought a '91 Escort brand new and it was the worst car I have ever owned. Everything on it fell apart and by 1996 I had to scrap it. Lol so you are fortunate to have found one that lasts.
I have a 2010 Accord LX with a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder K-24 Honda engine with an auto trans and 230,000 miles on her. Under the hood she is all original except for the starter, spark plugs, & battery. Still gets me at least 25 mpg and runs quiet as a mouse. That's my girl.
Another Toyota Legend is the 1997-2001 Camry with the Cast Iron Block 2.2 Liter engine. Mine has 315K and a close Buddy has 396K miles on his. These are the longest lived of the Camrys. Ask at any Toyota dealer's service department.The nick name with Toyota service people is the "Legend." I worked for years at a Toyota Dealer. Besides the cast Iron Camrys hitting ultra high miles we had a T-100(Tundra predecessor) traded in with over 600,000 rounds on it. Thanks for the great video. It is truly Accurate. Honda and Toyota have perfected the metallurgy.
I love my 2001 Chevy Lumina it is actually my second Lumina my first one had almost four hundred thousand miles on it but engine and transmission was replaced about four years before I bought it and I drove it a lot in the four years that I had it it is enough having a power steering leak need an air conditioner compressor replace looks a little things so I sold it to a friend for 500 fix the power steering leak he didn't fix the air conditioner and he still driving it almost 2 years later and he loves his Luna
About the frame rot issue. My 13 Taco has no rot as far as i can tell. I live in Canada and there is enough road salt put down where i live. I did have my truck rust protected with Diamond Coat when new and seems to be doing OK
My 2006 Toyota Camry has 174,000 miles on it. I was thinking I would have to replace it soon, but maybe it will last to 250,000 miles or more! Hope so.
If you don't have the Lexus LS400 & LS430 models as the centerpiece of your entire channel, then you are deluded - no car ever made has a longer average life expectancy, where 500-600K miles is typical, with no engine or transmission work, a durability that, compared to any other car or truck model is just insane!
I have a couple of Chevys that have over 200k. I know...I know...Hondas and Toyotas are known to last longer but I much rather prefer driving an American V8 over a 4 or 6 banger
The Toyota V8s have the starter in a stupid location, taking the intake manifold off to replace it. For Pilots and Ridgelines, some change the automatic transmission fluid every 20,000 miles. Tundras sometimes have a problem with back wheel bearings, difficult to replace properly- maybe spend more for a dealer mechanic to do it.
@@edrader the original starter and back wheel bearings might last 150 thousand miles. The Carsthatlast numbers do not pick up typical maintenance items before someone writes a for sale ad. Scotty Kilmer recommends Ford F-150 trucks with a gasoline V8 for short trips and hauling or towing heavy weight, diesel engines that need more maintenance but have better fuel mileage for long trips with heavy weight, and Toyota inline 4s for less hauling and towing capacity. There is a Tundra V8 that went a million miles of mostly highway driving, however it most likely needed at least 1 new starter and 1 set of wheel bearings. See Consumer Reports magazine at a library- the Toyota and Ford trucks tend to be more reliable than Chevy and Ram- their April issue goes back 8 years, from over 400 thousand owner surveys. The Carsthatlast series on RU-vid is better for vehicles more than 8 years old.
@jeff_ruebens the great thing about the tundra is i paid $28k for it out the door (cash). fifteen years later, I could easily sell it for $10k and probably more. i'll never buy another American car or truck. ever
@@edrader we stopped buying anything GM, Chrysler or Nissan because of low reliability and low resale value. We like Mazda, Hyundai and Kia- they are more reliable the last 5 years, and because the older ones were worse you can get a new or used one cheaper. I go to a library every April and study the Consumer Reports magazine annual car guide. I also look at the Car & Driver 10Best list for how they drive. JD Power and Motor Trend are more paid off liars.
after many years of brand loyalty to Toyota I bought a 2012 Ford Focus after having driven one as a rental. I sold that car at a huge loss less than two years later after the dual clutch started grinding and it was obvious there was no fix. i'm still getting solicitations in the mail to join a class action lawsuit
