Steel is my 2nd favourite type, but Ferrothorn is just disgusting. Also, Excadrill was so busted in Gen V because of Sand Rush, not Mold Breaker. Doubling the speed of something with a base of 88 and such high attack is horrendous; that’s why Sand Rush Excadrill was banned
You know, I did build a team on Pokémon Showdown and considered using Sand Rush Excadrill for my take on Iris’s Ultimate Team, and Mold Breaker is a great one too, but I figured I’d go with Sand Force instead. And he’s still powerful.
@@kazukiishimura3972 Dragon is my favourite type, I know, how basic. However, I do really like their strength and regal aura (except this dumb apple dragon in gen 8). Incidentally, my favourite Pokémon is neither Steel nor Dragon, but Electric, the Lightning Tiger Raikou
Of course, Ferrothorn is number 1. Seriously, who would of anticipated that a typing with the best defenses and the typing with the worst would compliment each other so well? And the fact Gamefreak nerfed Aegislash’s base stats shows how broken this Pokémon is. Being able to swap stats with a single move and Sword Dance safely is awesome. Thanks for making the video, Mystic. I enjoyed it. :)
Grass isn't the worst defensive typing lmao, it's got very useful and unic resistances to ground, water and elektrik and it's weaknesses, though numerous are generally very easy to see coming. Why do you think tangrowth is one of the most annoying piece of sh*t that ever walked this earth ?! And breloom, chesnaught and venusaur mega wouldn't be used that much if grass was this bad. Want bad defensive typings ? Ice, rock and bug will show you what that means.
@@artimist0315 True, those are all worse defensive typings than grass, though its funny how some bad types combines well with great typings, others do not. Bug is horrible, but is made very good with steel, rock is also horrible , and when you combine it with steel is absolutely horrendous. Two opposites!
@@artimist0315 "it's weaknesses, though numerous are generally very easy to see coming" is not even a real argument. Grass is the worst defensive type because of the sheer number of weaknesses it has, can't be anything better than worst when half of the game is effective against it. At least rock, ground and ice got the offensive to make up for it weak defense. Grass has nothing.
Honestly, Wolfe Glick would probably agree with you on this list. Yes Lucario and Metagross are monsters, but Gen 8 brought a few monsters itself. So I understand wanting the old Gen to be top stuff, but understand they are outclassed now. The only ones that sorta retained a top row status is Charizard and Venasuar. So understandable why favorites aren’t a the top spot.
Aegislash was unbanned because it was directly nerfed by game freak, by going from 150 to 140 in attack and defense and king shield went from dropping attack by two stages to only one. This last change made a huge difference, since it meant that physical attackers could finally have ways to break through it. Previously with good anticipation, you could win your dual with tyranitar since it's attack was low enough where it couldn't kill you. I still think it should be higher on this list, it is a great pokemon even with the nerfs.
Personally I say that bronzong should swap places with magnezone, it is immune to ground type moves, not 4x weak to them, it “in my opinion” has a better typing, and magnezone has just no coverage. The two things magnezone has over bronzong is it’s high special attack and thunder wave. Also I’m so glad that one of my favorite Pokémon Scizor scored to high. :)
Magnezone has another thing over Bronzong (and the main thing that makes it better); Magnet Pull. Being able to trap and remove opposing Steel-types can be instrumental in allowing more offensive teammates to break or sweep with minimal interference.
Well it comes down to what you play. Bronzong is inferior to Mag in singles, vice versa. I would also like to comment on how Bronzong has no coverage and a lack of damage output for such coverage. The only thing that is prolly gonna do some damage output is Gyro Ball. Also Bronzong has Hypnosis and Gravity (in some gens). Mag on the other hand can trap but is not as reliable with the loss of Hidden Power. I prefer Bronzong nevertheless cuz I’m a doubles player lol
I've hit master ball rank every season with monk steel and I mostly agree with this list. Really feel like Aegislash should be higher. And no klefki?! With prankster you can run dual screens or thunder wave etc. With foul play to counter someone setting up on you. Probably the best support pokemon in the steel typing.
I had most of the ‘Mons on this list for my Steel team in Black 2. I agree 100% with this list. Lucario is great, but not as a Steel-type. Metagross is busted, but an OK Psychic-type. Ferrothorn completely surprised me as it was the one that I never wanted but came to my rescue right when I needed it.
So glad you're doing non legendary video. My buddy's and I refuse to use any legendaries on our teams, so love knowing what some of the best are without it being a top 10 legendary video
Metagross is my favorite pokemon ever since its debut on pokemon anime series. and i have no complains from him not on top 5. Because yeah. Your analysis have a point.
Empoleon was robbed and it makes 0 sense why. It loses its fire type weakness and it’s other typing is super effective against ground types… just weird all around.
I may have to do another 8th gen play through and get another Corviknight. Even with bad IV’s and nature on my first one it was a dominant threat in battle
Personally with my rule of no repeat Pokemon, Pokemon such as Lucario, Metagross, Scizor, Excadrill, Corviknight and Ferrothorn aren't allowed in my Top 10 Strongest No Legendaries Steel Type Pokemon list. Bronzong, Magnezone and Aegislash are on my list and Skarmory could've been on their too, but I personally don't think it's as great as Steel, even with it's awesome dual typing. So other Steel types I had on my No Legendaries list are Aggron, Empoleon, Revavroom (even though your list came out before Gen 9 did), Steelix, Copperajah, Archaludon (Same as Revavroom) and Gholdengo (Same as Revavroom and Archaludon).
Because you've placed Pokemon on this list I thought you wouldn't, it was a unique one in my eyes. You reminded me half the Pokemon on this list how useful they are in the competitive sense. As a Lucario fan, I wasn't mad when he wasn't high up on the list because although it hits strong and fast along with a variety of move pools, there are many ways to shut it down however, it is still far from weak.
Unfortunately I can't really pick out a favorite steel type, nothing jumps out at me. I suppose when the do a poison-steel type that one will probably be my favorite.
Great list, I totally agree with every pick but I think the list is lacking one. I think it needs Bisharp at number 9, just move Bronzong and Lucario down one. However, other than that I think this list was terrific and a lot of fun to watch.
Isn't it funny how the only steel sudo legendary didn't even make the top 5, but I do agree there are a lot of strong and powerful steel types and it's definitely one of if not my top favourite Pokémon type
Currently for Battletower in S&S or Champion Tournaments, I use a Tech Scizor with Bullet Punch. My lead is a Pincurchin that makes life hell for the other team with spikes toxic thunder wave and a memento. Then comes out my Clefable who usually uses Reflect and then belly drum to baton pass to Scizor who just sweeps. And if I get beat too much with that team I either switch Scizor out for Metagross or use a Corviknight strat. Pincurchin is lead again. Then Dubwool comes out to Cotton Guard twice and baton pass to Corviknight for just the easiest sweep. Hop was onto something when he built his team. Too bad he didn’t know how to use them.
Okay, I have to disagree with you on one thing. Weavile can totally tank Scizor. Best move pools to use on Weavile in any set would be it's STAB moves, Ice Punch & Night Slash, but add Brick Break as a surprise move addition. With the addition of Brick Break you get 11/18 type advantage options with Weavile. Swords Dance for boosted mayhem on the battlefield and you get the perfect all rounder. Make sure your Weavile has an Impish Nature for boosted Phy-Def and EV Train for Atk, Speed, and Def. Add on the Expert Belt and you have bonus damage to all super effective moves.
1:30 I knew Lucario would be one of the top ten non legendary steel type pokemon ( my favorite moves that Lucario uses is whether Iron Tail or Aura Sphere) 8:26 My favorite move that Aegislash uses is flash cannon 11:30 corviknight is my favorite regional bird pokemon 12:21 and also don't forget about flash cannon or steel wing 12:55 I thought it would be steelix, empoleon or Aggron, so I think they're honorable mentions along with Durant, Bisharp and Duraludon
How isn't bisharp on the list, it's such a good pokemon in OU !? It's got an amazing ability in defiant to catch those defoggers, intimate and sticky web users, it hits like a truck and has a very good movepool. I can't see it being left out of the list where metagross and bronzong, two clearly inferior steel types aren't. I would also mention durant and empoleon as being better pokemon than bronzong but the comparison isn't as glaring. And though their evolutions are mentioned, magneton and doublade are big threats on their own but otherwise it's a good list.
Mystic how is it that Steelix, Aggron, Duraludon did not even get a mention? Aggron - Ability: Rock Head - Head Smash [no recoil, higher accuracy than Stone Edge] - Heavy Slam [more power than Iron Head despite 30% flinch] - Take Down [no recoil] - Earthquake
Lucario is my favourite pokémon but even I can't deny its place here, even though it really hurts to acknowledge. Most of it is Cobalions fault, it has the same typing but its essentially just a better version of Lucario, its defensively bulkier and can be used as a Stealth Rocker, while also being faster than Lucario. Its just more versatile and thus better. Outside of that there are just better attackers that aren't stopped by common pokémon that are used often. I wish Lucario got his Mega back, then it may have ended up back in OU, but its just a dream at the end of the day
Skarmory is one of the coolest Pokémon designs imo, part of me wants it to get an evolution or baby form but the other part thinks it’s already a masterpiece and a new evolution would ruin it
This was a good list but here is my top 10, 10, Bronzong 9, Magnazone 8, Metagross 7, Lucario while it doesn’t make the top 5 but it should still be higher 6, Skarmory 5, Scizor 4, Edgaslash 3, Excadrill 2, Corviknight 1, Ferrathorn and as for the next list either The steel types weakness Fire type or it’d Strength Fairy types.
My top 10 Non legendary Steel Type are 1. Mega Metagross 2. Mega Lucario 3. Aegislash 4. Mega Scizor 5. Mega Mawile 6. Goodra (H) 7. Excadrill 8. Duraludon 9. Mega Aggron 10. Ferrothorn
I watched False Swipe Gaming on how well Excadrill and Ferrothon performed, so I can agree with the list. I mean Mega Lucario was so good because of its mixed offenses.
Metagross is prolly my top 3 favorite Pokemon of all time but I have to agree on both list. Metagross is just not as good as it was once, its actually average at best competitively and it makes me sad
Man, Ferrothorn is awesome, props one of my favourites but it does struggle with the grass type side, it doesn't have many physical grass moves which sucks.
Steel is best type, don't @ me. A shame metagross (my #1) couldn't cut in the top 5, but it doesn't drag me down. I knew Aegislash (my #2) was gonna be on the list, but I was genuinely surprised to see ferrothorn (my #3) in the top slot. I guess I've been out of the game for a while
Ferrothorn was one of the reasons I was able to get through Pokemon Black. And it wasn't because the game was hard, just that the game was average as hell, but new pokemon such as Ferrothorn kept me interested enough to at least finish the main game.
Imagine telling a person playing gen2 competitive that skarmory world one day be in UU😂 also garchomp can easily use flamethrower or fire blast to deal with it. Also lucario is slower than I expected. Also the reason excadrill got banned to ubers in gen 5 because of sand rush. Why wasn’t that mentioned?
like the last one with psychics, ALOT of steel types are victims of their own typings. for example, you get a decently fast pokemon with good special attack and have it know/use a flamethrower and you can oneKO all of these pokemon especially ferrothorn and scizor but except for excadrill. or you find a decently strong pokemon and have it know/use brick break and all of them are done except bronzong, corvinight metagross and skarmory. what im saying is as cool and good as steel types are they can be so easily knocked out unless they have coverage. its to the point that depending on what you or your opponent uses, almost all steel types can be knocked out with a single fire or fighting type move that any steel type wont even get a chance to do anything...
