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The invasion of Dazar'alor, at the moment of the invasion the zandalari where neutral, they ransacked their most holy place of worship and then pissed all over it.
BfA's writing for the Horde seemed really inconsistent and sloppy; like I still find it incredibly distracting that Anduin of all people, leader of the Alliance at the time, had to give Saurfang a prep talk about how awesome the Horde "really" was, even after all that had happened. To me it felt weirdly condescending on the part of Blizzard's writing staff; like first the Horde is cast as the clear-cut 'evil' side of the expansion, only for the story to turn around and say "oh, but THAT wasn't REALLY the Horde!" and then proceed to treat them as these innocent puppydogs who would never harm a fly. Is it just me? Or has Blizzard completely forgotten how to write moral ambiguity?
BfA writing is just sh*t. Like just recently I played the Horde's Stormheim campaign and the pre-BfA Sylvanas and BfA Sylvanas are just two totally different character, changed by an unnatural shift.
As a player of the Horde I don't know why they didn't let us choose not to follow Sylvanas, just as they didn't let us mount an opposition front from the beginning to counter the madness that was coming ... at least they let us save some Night Elf in Teldrassil
@@dev0ur408 I noticed that too. BfA royally dropped the ball in regards to Sylvanas's development; and now in SL I get the sense that they're trying to retcon all that. Like if you compare Legion Sylvanas to SL Sylvanas, to me at least it seems a lot less jarring than it is in present canon.
@@albodav9602 I wholeheartedly agree. I didn't even play through the Burning of Teldrassil for that very reason, as despite being a Horde player myself I have a deep-seated love of the night elves and Teldrassil. And hell, on Wyrmrest I even wrote that my tauren shaman (RP wise) helped the elves despite it not being an option in-game.
I don't get why people continue to get a surprised Pikachu face for the fact that the orcs got thrown into internment camps for invading and slaughtering all the way through eastern kingdoms.
The internment camps themselves were the best option out of a list of bad ones. It wasnt a long list. The problem is in how poor they were treated, no attempts made to try and understand or reform any orcs, and how it eventually was making the turn into full blown enslavement Orcs in the camps were sometimes enslaved as servants after all. Thrall was far from unique in being a slave
It wasn’t the camp themselves. They were actually created with great intentions. (To redeem the orcs). The problem was how they were treated in said camps.
@@ConnorNotyerbidness but the conditions weren't on behalf of Alliance, but individuals, no? they didn't even have a connection to the orcs in Kalimdor, so they could export them there... from their point of view, they could either kill them (in any way), or use them
I'm still kinda bothered by the fact that the writers decided to make the Horde the constant aggressors for like a decade, while at the same time still trying to portray both factions as "neither evil nor good". We had Garrosh being the aggressor in Cata and Mop, then Sylvanas in BfA. It's kinda annoying cuz since warcraft3 the narrative of the WoW lore was "2 morally grey factions having a conflict", so I felt comfortable creating a Horde character and imagining him as a chaotic good, but its kinda difficult when the prepatch of BfA sent us to Darkshore to commit genocide. I personally really hope that Turalyons storyline will lead to some aggression from the alliance, to balance stuff out.
we all know that Blizzard in recent years story wise they favoritise the alliance more... they attacked orgrimmar in mop, in legion on argus the horde was not even present, in bfa the horde lost the war not to mention how they butchered Voljin making him die to a trash mob
Well wow started on that alliance versus horde stuff and tbh that's probably the perspective of a lot of wow players. When you scale the picture out you can see that a lot of stuff has happened because gods and higher forces messed with Azeroth. Orcs are on Azeroth because of the titans, I think night elves became night elves because of Elune which also then led them to destroying the whole world almost for 3 times, thats why elves are racist sometimes lol, they are so closed off because its a terrible thing to think what ur race has done, ofc the reason why is Azshara but IDK if the alliance even existed then. Draenei wouldnt be on Azeroth if it werent for the titans. Arthas wouldnt become the lich king. A lot of key stuff is God's work. Pull the strings, watch them dance. And if u wanna judge wow, dont play the game lol, the game is awful. As you said, u maybe want to be horde but u wouldnt commit that genocide, its not like u had a choice. I think there should be no factions. If ur an orc and u get reputation with an alliance race, you can go there, live there, fight for them.
I hope Alliance just push all the Horde Forces out from the Azeroth to their native planet. Since Alliance was not one who explode Draenor so ain't really their concerns. Just end the wow with huge and epic battle including higher forces. Restore the former glory of old Alliance and Kingdoms fell during previous wars. I just want to see fully cleansed Plaguelands and Stratholme fire being put out before I leave this game forever.
The Alliance is the passive faction. Things happen to the alliance, they're the NPC faction... The Horde is active, makes things happen, it represents the will of the player, they're the protagonists of the game... While the Horde is in my opinion a villainous protagonist, it's blizz bias towards the Horde that moves the plot forward, not bias for the Alliance...
That'd be a very interesting idea, but some races are horribly underdeveloped when it comes to moral ambiguity (notably gnomes, pandaren and draenei) and thus lacks any serious crimes in their history.
@@tatalsaba Draenei are simply a faction of the Eredar race, so the crimes of their demon brethren also count. The gnomes have destroyed their own capital (1 of them to be exact, but it also counts). As for the Pandaren, the Sha-tainted ones also count. If the whole race hasn't done something, part of it. If not a part, then units. There are no pure and innocent races, there are only crimes of different scales and it would be cool to compare these scales.
@@macrons593 Not. I meant the crimes committed by members of these races. Regardless of the number of criminals. But I actually put it wrong. Would it be better if we called it "TOP 3 worst crimes committed by members of each of the playable races"? Does the title no longer imply that the entire race is evil?
Tellingly, most of these Alliance crimes were either provoked by the Horde first (the internment camps) or the result of outside forces interfering (the Stonemason's Guild events were mostly Onyxia's fault). But I agree that crimes one, three, seven and nine are completely on the Alliance.
Provoked and completely justified are completely different things. I don't really see a good case for for permanent enslavement of a entire race or killing them off. Baby's being born into imprisonment isn't a good look tbh.
At Camp Taurajo, the path Alliance allowed the civilians to escape leave went past a quillboar area and all the civilians were slaughtered by the qullboar.
The biggest crime but not against the Horde is that they not want to hear what medivh say, especially that the kirin Tor not recognize the Guardian of tirisfal. The conseques are enorm like detroying of lordaeron, arthas become easy to controll by the legion and his Transformation into the lichking Costs so much more. Ignorance is not a crime but in this case maybe a few more Civilan had survive.
Medivh was dead by that time and not many people knew about him... only few like Khadgar and Anduin (Lothar) Only the player can see the Alliance was wrong by their skepticism, as well as the Stratholme purge in which we knew by just playing the game that people was beyond salvation and that there were no cure and everything was already lost
@@albodav9602 in the warcraft3 cinematic medivh came in raven Form in the Throne room and show that he has magic abilities, the king doesent know him thats right but the kirin Tor MUST recognize hin because a warden is create by all strong arch Mages and its writen in their books that the most kirin tor read every day and even the Raven Form ist noticable for a non druid. Medivh warns thrall and he an orc who dont have any reason to trust human belive him and safe most of his people. The legion Invasion was long planned, i didnt say that the have stop the legion but they could save a Lot more people and arthas had could been stopped when his father had known his fate. by the way stratholm is only one city in lordaeron.
@@BlackWolf_TM It was too large for a city pretty much as Lordaeron or Azeroth(late Stormwind) and that make everything more decisive The Lich King's plan was a perfect one
Alliance not that innocent. What's next? Horde not that evil. It's Horde that first invaded Azeroth. It's Horde leaders who worshipped demons and corrupted their own kind for power. It's Horde started every war. Alliance only main goal was to restore their old kingdoms and unity they had before all those war and plagues. It's not war crime to act aggressive if your opponent is pushing hard to your land. Forsakens should be eradicated from Eastern Kingdoms.
@Nomad Rider that's because Blizzard always whitewash the Alliance way more than it's necessary because their fans don't want to be "morally grey" in the slightest, but for example in the original canon lore (before the retcons of the Chronicles) it was the Alliance who started the war in Cataclysm as Varian declared war against the Horde in the Battle for Undercity in WotLK, and also Genn attacked Warchief Sylvanas first in Legion. Forsaken are former Humans and also thematically bound to Lordaeron as they lived there so they are never moving away from there, Blizzard don't move races casually in the world...even the Night Elves who recently lost Teldrassil, they still got Hyjal and Darkshore and maybe Ashenvale so they are still there, Forsaken are still in Lordaeron even without Undercity
@@vados8500 Sylvanas was one who pushed Gilneas borders and started invasion. She killed and raised Gilnian civilians as undead to recruit in Forsaken army. Even if Forsakens are former Lordearon citizens but they still joined Horde. I can't really blame Alliance for rejecting Forsaken to their ranks because of the influence of the Light. Even Lordearon deserters are against Forsaken. They destroyed much of Silver Pine and Hillsbrad with undead plague and corrupted the nature. Lordearon was human kingdom. And by right it belongs to the Alliance. Not Horde and undead. Forsakens always do some shady things and backstabbing in various expansions. After all we now know Sylvanas was not doing all those things for good of the Forsakens but for Jailer. Much like Lich king. And what do you mean by night elves still have Dark shore and Hyjal. If someone comes to your house and burn it to the ground would you be "Oh no worries. We will move to somewhere else!". In later expansions Ashenvale got pushed and we even see horde invasion force in Darkshore. Also honorary warchief bombing Theramore was god damn disgusting. Garrosh was likable until he bombed Theramore. I play Alliance because it's not fair that Horde always keep getting away without any consequences for their actions.
Glad the Stonemasons Guild is on the list Ive always said that we are the villains of their story. The Defias Brotherhood is as grey morality as wow gets
Funny how when nobody wants to get their hands dirty, it's a 'rogue attack', 'unauthorized expedition, ', 'non-approved faction of fanatics'... Yeah, right. you either keep your allies in check or you don't, because the entirety of the novel War Crimes is blaming the leader on every action of every ally as if those were their own personal crimes. Of course, it was a Horde leader, not an Ally leader, those are beyond reproach, what with all of them being so pure and holy.
Like Jaina once said, we all have blood on our hands. Sure, we Alliance did do bad things, I do not deny that, but these are nothing at all compared to the crimes the Horde committed
Top 10 crimes, which almost all of them are questionable to call them crimes or assign them to alliance still nothing compared to any major horde crime
You're mixing up Aethas with Lorthemar. Lorthemar is the leader of the blood elves. Aethas is simply the leader of the sunreaver faction in Dalaran. Also. Another thing with the alliance and the blood elves. In Eversong woods. The blood elves had alliance emissaries over in hopes of joining the alliance but then it turned out, they were sabotaging their spires and that night elves had set up military camps in their lands.
Funny how most of these were actions that were done by smaller military leaders on the field, or things that horde provoked, while you could probably do a video twice the size, consisting of just actions that were direct orders from the warchiefs.
I am glad that you mentioned these crimes, I think that there much more. For example Admiral Proudmoure attacked the Horde when they were allies and had peace but that old man even used Theramore against Jaina's will. Thrall and Jaina tried to explain that the Horde and the Alliance are not enemies but Admiral just ignored them
That's the only crime worth mentioning really. But then again he was right, seeing how Jaina's complacency was rewarded at Theramore and later in Kul Tiras.
@@Kirochi That's because of Garrosh Theramore was destroyed, it was Thrall's fault because he placed him as a Warchief. If Garrosh didn't become a Warchief Theramore will be safe. Even Garrosh mentioned that he's a warrior, not a politician but Thrall didn't listen. Garrosh became a Warchief because he was a son of Thrall's old friend, Grommash Hellscream. Thrall made huge mistake that had so many consequences
@@biggshoverwelder3690 I am talking about crimes in the Lore because from what i know the Alliance almost don't make war crimes when compared to the Alliance
This kind of sheer intellectual dishonesty from Horde players is why I switched to Alliance as a long time horde player from back in the good old days. Are you fucking kidding me? This entitlement and lying from Horde players is mind boggling.
Chronicles retconned the Goblin cinematic that says: We've our orders, no witnesses as an accident shot? jesus christ, they really want to white-wash any action by the alliance x.-D
10, Stonespire are members of the Horde, the Alliance and Horde were at war, therefore it was justified. 9, Taurajo trained warriors and hunters and was a military target, furthermore the barrens campaign was a response to the Horde attacking Gilneas and further encroaching on Night Elf lands, therefore it was justified. 8, You explained it well enough why it was Justified. 7, Sunreavers a faction allied with the Horde, allowed the Horde to used a neutral city as a middle ground to carry out and assault on an Alliance city and as a result were banished from Dalaran, they then started a rebellion which was squashed, therefore it was justified. 6, Horde invaded Azeroth, committed genocide against serval races of Azeroth, were defeated and put into Interment camps, it was justified 5, Horde rebels attack both Factions and the Horde obviously couldn't deal with it, the Alliance were enraged and attacked the rebels, and due to Horde letting the Forsaken manufacture the plague which cause the Wrathgate incident, the Alliance declaring war was justified. 4, Alliance took control of a Horde occupied outpost during war and then proceeded to gun down the remaining Horde sailors that were swimming towards them, the Horde sailors never gave themselves up or said they were surrendering. Brutal? Yes, justified? Yes. 3, Forsaken forces attempted to enslave the Val'kyr after Sylvanas mad a deal with Helya, the Alliance routed them and prevented Sylvanas from accomplishing here evil goals, which are currently being portrayed in Shadowlands, therefore it was justified. 2, Wasn't an Alliance crime, it was Onyxia who manipulated them. 1, The Alliance wasn’t responsible for Garithos, Garithos was not appointed by the Alliance, he just happened to be the highest ranked solider left alive in Lorderan. Blaming the Alliance for what he did would be like blaming Austria for what Hitler did. You went zero for ten, bud.
biased much? By the same logic most of the horde crimes were justified since they were responses to the Alliance attacking their outposts. After all, war is war. It seems to me you have double standards
"Blaming the Alliance for what he did would be like blaming Austria for what Hitler did." By that same logic you can't really blame the horde for what sylvanas did along the years
@@BenDover-gc4xs How can you be biased if those were actual logical facts he just pointed out. It's probably more impartial than the video if anything.
From Horde point of view I just have to say : -You need to pump those numbers up ! Those are rookie numbers in this bracket ! From the 10 crimes at best 3 were close to ,a actual crime .
@@wizardmon99 That justifies killing fleeing colleges who had nothing to do with it, then attempting to destroy Orgrimmar, civilians included, 3 times in a row. She only failed cause of Thrall and Khadgar(or some other magic douche). Had she succeeded, then end result of wiping Orgrimmar would have been no different than Teldrassil, but "oH syLvANaS Iz tEH Bad ONe". Don't misunderstand. I'd have done the same, but I'm medically retired from the Army for psych issues. I've been called "...the most compulsive and potentially violent individual I've ever met" and told I'm not safe to be in public improperly medicated by 2 separate psychiatrists. If I'd do it, you're not the good guy by classic black/white moral standards, or even the lighter shades of grey.
@@wizardmon99 also, while emotions clouded Arthas' judgement, he knew how fast the plague spreads. He made the objectively correct call with information Uther and Jaina didn't know or were too naive to accept. Jaina wanted revenge. She's a war criminal.
@@jesserothhammer7378 i'm not saying she was right, i'm saying that she went mad because of horde's actions. she fought for peace her entire life just to be betrayed for like, 3 million times. by the way sylvannas is kinda the bad one (blizzard amazing writing here, because that came out of nowere lol), both her and jaina had the choice to not commit mass genocide in teldrassil & orgrimmar, jaina had help, yes, but she was the one to make it. I think we need some psychologists and psychiatrists in azeroth, though. aside that, I'm hoping you're doing okay these days
@@jesserothhammer7378 you're forgetting that, while all that happened within the sunreavers, during the quest line, you are told to take into custody the sunreavers. The sunreavers could clearly come or continue to resist, and it was when they continued to resist that you would have to kill them. So they were not all fleeing. A lot of them were resisting, and especially given that someone that was working inside them had given garrosh access to such a weapon, that would certainly warrant an investigation, which is ultimately what was demanded apart from their removal from dalaran. She had every understandable reason to want to exterminate them from off the face of azeroth, and had Kalecgos not talked her down (not thrall, he was losing) she would have. It would have sucked in the end because there was that kraken thing that varrosh somehow managed to summon that was in another part of the world that was attacking alliance ships. She has taken more shit and this was the straw that broke the camels back. The Horde is lucky that kalecgos came to their rescue, or else, orgrimmar and everyone and everything in it would be non-existent. She's far more understandable than anything else, and people cannot see that, then they're either ignorant, or just willfully blind, i.e. stupid.
Medivh was possessed by sargaras most of the hordes crimes were done by free will with standing armies. The Horde also took on demon blood by free will, medivh has sargaras’ spirit in him since birth
@@tholos2758 Medivh was first manipulated and then possessed by Sargeras. Most of the orcs were manipulated by Kil'Jaeden by infiltrating their 'religion'. Everyone has their reasons and the causes for their actions, however the fact remains - If Medivh did not do what he did, the Orcs would not have done what they did.
@@Kazeshini25663 and the orcs had already slaughtered a world. Years before they had any contact with medivh a planet was annihilated by the Horde. And actually manipulated is the wrong word for Aegwynn, she was infected by his spirit as a consequence of destroying his avatar
there was no reason to bomb stormwind and it would probably have been less of a casualty because it would take them a lot more to send a zepellin all the way to stormwind, the reason why the horde wanted to take theramore is so that they have the control of the entire continent. And sylvanas kinda extended that by burning teldrassil. Now idk where the nelves will move, since there is not a lot of them but kalimdor is generally horde now, maybe the ones left are the draenei.
Unintentionally! (kinda) while a MEMBER of the horde did nuke theramore the horde was against it, especially garrosh hellscream who was the warchief at the time. Garrosh even punished the MEMBER of the horde who did it by throwing him off a bridge.
yes? you seem to automatically assume this is a video saying "actually alliance are the bad guys" when its just stating bad things the alliance has done
I think you are skewing the facts here a bit. I got into the first 2 before I gave up. You showed two situations that were not sanctioned by the Alliance and where people acted upon their own desires and not based on Alliance orders. How about show quest text etc so we can read it for ourselves and decide what happened.
I mean in the cinematic around the Bilge water ship in the cut scene they're saying that they are destroying the ship so they aren't witnesses to the attack on Thrall
the main difference between Horde crimes and Alliance crimes is that Horde is the Horde and Alliance tries to pose as the 'good guys' with super high moral standards and to invoke their moral superiority over Horde. that's called hipocrisy. Horde may be violent but at least they do not pretend something they are not.
They don't have to pose. They are overwhelmingly comparatively better than the Horde from a moral standpoint. That's already established simply due to the fact that most of the alliance "crimes" are reactionary to Horde aggression.
You downplay both torojo where the civilians were actually fed to quilboar (comeon in what military operation of airbombing do u not even see an area that u didn't know hey theyre pigmen in the south. Also didn't didn't people there know u think they didnt tell?) and in the goblin attack they knew they were civilians but didn't want witnesses to that thrall was killed by them. Also they tried to kill thrall 4 times and the horde rallied to one attempt by sylvanus.
I hate what they are doing with Anduin, what happened to Velen’s vision about him. It’s very disappointing they mutilating his character, it’s because of this gamers who keeps pushing him to be the next Arthas, now what happened, they turned him into a death knight.
Genn committed a war crime? really? A+H fought together, but not Sylvanas. She tried to enslave the Val´kyr to become more powerful herself. And now we know why. Genn did not trust in Sylvanas and therefore he followed her. And he was right. Alliance AND Horde can thank him, that he made Sylvanas fail, once again.
Sylvanas only wanted to save her people not to attack alliance ( this time ). If she had a power of Val'Kyr the Horde gets a big advantage over Legion but thanks to that dogfucker she lost that power. So yeah it was a unexpected attack against the Horde!!
@@szymonkalinski3014 as we already know, Sylvanas was not interested in the Horde or the Foresaken. Since WotLK she worked with the Jailor. Quote: The Horde is nothing! You are all nothing!
What?!! Sylvanas was innocent when Anduin cornered her in Lordaeron? You can't be forgetting Teldrassil. If you read Golden's "Before the Storm", Sylvanas was on her way to Stormwind. She toasted Teldrassil along the way just for kicks. With Varian out of the way, she felt she could bump off Anduin and capture the alliance capital. She intended to slaughter the human population and raise them as undead in her service. Innocent my foot.
Here's the problem: WoW is too heavily politicized and shallow in its current writing. Characters are written so they are foolish in their own mentality and ego.
Eh, your an little too soft. The one Time stand Together in the one Scenario (wrath gate) doesnt make the Factions allies. Also Varion wanted to kill the Betrayer. His aim was NOT Sylvanas.
Watching this I am surprised by one major thing. The Alliance really isn't that bad. None of these are even close to the bombing of Theramore, burning of Teldrassil, destroying Stormwind, invading Lordaeron/Quel'Thalas/Khaz Modan, plague bombing peaceful villages, enslaving Alexstraza to make her a baby factory, willing drinking demonblood, or genociding the Draenei. For all their faults, the Alliance is good and heroic by comparison.
Lmao this video literally operates as a propagator of the Horde-evil and Alliance-retaliator narrative. With only Garithos’ treatment of the Blood Elves and the Stonemasons incident being exceptions.
I was expecting to discover that the Alliance committed genocide TWO times or something... Instead I got: non sanctioned acts of war, justified attacks against hostile camps allowing civilians to flee, not kindly asking a ship of historic horde mercenaries if they are mercenaries this time, more non sanctioned acts that got Jaina booted, more justified responses to hostility, more non sanctioned acts, etc, etc... I mean I don't think the Alliance is innocent, there are no innocents in war... But the Horde is just an entire new level of villainy. I hope your next video is not "top 10 kind things the Horde has done", that wouldn't seem right considering your avatar is an orc and all that... It'll be like listening to Sylvanna's defenders...
@@lgr9793 that's all? That's the objection? If somehow the Alliance's worst was attacking a camp and knowingly (which is not confirmed afaik) get civilians to flee towards a worse death, then I don't know what to tell you. They seem pretty good guys!
I cant believe you dont have Daelin Proudmoore mentioned here. Also, the entirety of the Cult of the Damned started in Lordaeron. I'd also mention something about Alterac, all kinds of gray area things happening in those mountains from the kingdom betraying Lordaeron to the Horde and the Stormpike invasion on the Frostwolf Clan. Bael Modan was also only 1 of many illegal Dwarf excavations. Did these not make the list because they were not technically affiliated with Alliance at these times? If that's the case than a lot of the crimes attributed to the Horde can be expunged as well.
mine would be purging several Horde settlements in Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor of all NPCs with my Alliance High Elf Ranger main, sparing only the Blood Elves, since my char believes they should be free from working with Orcs, and the reason for those purges is basically my main character being racist towards Orcs, Trolls and Goblins for the PTSD from second war
@@Kubapajonczek my relic hunter nelf respect a lot the highmontain tauren but hates all other races of the horde especially orcs and undead. Because his childhood friend was a highmontain tauren and he was killed when they were figthing the orcs when they invaded azherot.
@newfacepaula the lore says something about the soldiers of the village of Garithos being sent in Quel'thalas so everyone in the village of Garithos was killed by the Orcs so Garithos blamed the elves, but in this case it's the fault of the Humans, Quel'thalas never asked for all the troops of the Alliance to fight there, Humans could have sent less and protect their own better
The problem is not the amount of crimes alliance committed, the problem is the amount of crimes they got away with while the horde had to pay for their crimes at all times
@@stepanpytlik4021 I'm pretty sure a lot of people died that day, not to mention that everyone matters. Stop trying to pretend that the alliance has never done anything bad.
This is Horde Progpaganda (best about BFA Horde one Crime after another and in the end I ONLY FOLLOWED ORDER ....) Who cares for some Mudhuts when you count how many Citys: the Horde destroyed burned bombed or blighted-.- Horde abused Dalaran neutral ground so good enought reason for a Purge of Traitors. Internment camps wasnt a Crime it was just what to do with these Animals kill em or house them? Orcs came slaughtered Women children (and some even eat human) so they need to be caged away like a rabbit beast (DEMONBLOODRAGE BTW) You really going for some weird ideas to make the Alliance look bad when most of the times the Horde had it coming (and they deserve only Vengance for Teldrassil) Undercity really? Sylvanas was in with the Wrathgate and thats its Varion should have killed them that day and it would have been done for good... Pfff Crimes Jade f...... To quote Alleria: they are just Vermin^^.... Stonemason was the only real thing the Nobles of Stormwind(under Onyxias control though) messed up And Yeah even after all that Stupid Garithos did.... every 2 Addons the blood Elves try Crawling back to the Alliance^^.....
@Necroking Darak purge of Dalaran too, Tauren and Blood Elves are the two races usually more abused by the Alliance because they are the "softer" side of the Horde right now and the Alliance feels more comfortable attacking them in a faction war because they know usually they won't bite back a lot. Indeed we rarely see the Humans taking violent actions or doing crimes directly against Orcs or Forsaken (Undercity had to be destroyed by Sylvanas herself...) despite these two races certainly deserve the retribution of the Alliance way more than Tauren and Blood Elves, but the Humans are afraid of their revenge and the violent repercussions that could happen
I can t believe that a faction weak like the horde which got wiped by random trash on broken shore can do so much harm. Just shit storytelling from blizzard. I liked garrosh, it felt like for the first time someone tried to pull up the horde out of the mud and not let the Alliance be the superior faction which would lead to some ballance
Again all those where commited by one memeber od the alliaince not the whole alliaince gen,the general and so o it never the full alliaince backing this up at best it most dont by one person without the kings knowledge. Plus most of this are Still understandable unlike the horde but compairing both factions in the end horde commited 4 time if not more war crimes .So that Still makes them not just had guys but Also evil.
One of the worst Alliance crimes is also Jaina attacking the Blood Elves of the Kirin'Tor after Theramore was bombed. Also Graymane may attacked Sylvanas and the Horde in Stormheim, but he clearly stopped Sylvanas from doing something worse and Shadowlands related
Horde: commits genocide, wipes three countries off the map, stabs alliance army in the back twice Also Horde: "You burned Camp Taurajo, you MONTERS"!!!!!!!
