Really enjoyed your episode! That banked country looks so sick. The shape, sidecut and graphics just beautiful and gnarly at the same time. Thanks for your shows, keep up the good work!
Hey guys, just an FYI, Burton’s Directional Camber is way different from their S-Camber. The S-Camber was actually completely powder specific and featured camber solely under the rear foot with progressive rocker from the midline of the waist forward to the nose, and the upkick in the rocker was more dramatic beyond the front insert pack. I still own the 2016 Burton Barracuda(primarily for decoration purposes at this point since I have so many newer boards), which was the evolution of the older Malolo, and that board has the S-Camber. Truly it is a wonderful experience to ride an S-Camber board in deep snow, the Malolo that preceded the Barracuda was the first popsicle style board I ever rode in deep powder where I felt like I was riding a fish, except one that was capable of stomping landings when dropping off mini cliffs in the backcountry haha. The Barracuda got a way better core and lost around a pound in weight compared to the Malolo that preceded it. Honestly that board is still totally rideable today if I wanted to take it out thanks to Burton using their infinite ride process by that time but there’s so much new tech in the boards coming out now that I just keep moving forward and buying new stuff hahaha. The S-Camber boards were always kinda sketchy on groomers since it was basically rear steer only and just totally ridden off the tail on anything flat, but that’s not where those boards were designed to be ridden anyways. Those boards were just all out powder slayers. Even with the narrower waist lines that boards of that era inherently had compared to today, the design produced absolutely unsinkable boards that felt fun and surfy on the deep days. Anyways, Burton hasn’t made an S-Camber board for several years now and their directional camber is way different, it’s much more friendly to the groomer experience and making traverses for sure 😉👍🏼
Yipeeeee snowboarding!!!! I'm moving to Colorado the 21st and am super exited about getting back into snowboarding. I went for the first time last year to Steamboat and haven't stopped thinking about it since.
Been riding a hometown for a few seasons now and just picked up a showstopper in their sample sale. I know you guys loved that board so I couldn’t be more excited to get out on it!
I have the Korua Otto, been riding it in the indoor slopes all this year ready for this winter! Going to Les Duex Alpes in December then Austria in January for some all mountain riding and Slalom and boardercross.
In a Golden Age of snowboard design and products. These boards are so fine-tuned and tweaked that all that's left is to play with small changes. About as good as it can get. Maybe boot and binding tech can catch up
Re: GNU Banked Country, I've always described Mervin's C3 profile as "traditional camber, with an extra flex point in the middle". Just because a lot of us run for the hills when someone brings up "center rocker" xD Great video guys! Loving your content.
I got a Jones ultra mountain twin last year. I love it! I was actually surprised how much I liked it I haven’t rode a twin shape in along time and I really enjoy the versatility of the board. Super fun, great pop if you aren’t afraid to load it. Definitely don’t go for the ultra unless you are an aggressive rider. I also ride a Jones flag ship and it was my daily driver for several years. Also an incredible board. I’d love to rip the GNU banked slalom. I have a Mullair pro model that I also love. I was so sad when they dropped Nico, he is missed on the pro scene. That guy has the best line choices and such a fun style.
The graphics of the Yes is amazing. It would make you feel good every time you ride it. Or look at it. Beautiful. Hate ro cover any of it with a binding. That's a board for the showroom window
Finally! Something I can work with… desperately need a new board. Been riding for decades, shredding it. But not any knowledge about boards (do wax, repair and edge them myself, but that’s how far it goes). Just van’t save my current board anymore 😅 (Nitro Magnum) With your info I think I’ll probably be able to finally pick a really gnar one for once! Cheers! Really enjoyed the way you brought it too. ✌🏼
Several weeks back my riding buddy of 39 years was talking about getting a new board to replace his Ejack, and asked what I thought he should pick-up ? I said without any question the Hometown Hero. After reading and watching some reviews then checking the specs on Burtons website I was sold on it. I stopped at The Hidden Wave in Burlington Wa. and checked out the one they had in stock, I called my buddy and told him they had one, but he told me he had already ordered a new Ejack. To make a long story short I ended up ordering the Hometown Hero in the 160, I think it will fit in my quiver between my 158 Stungun (a little soft) and my 163 Landlord. Knowing how stoked you two are on this board makes me feel I made the right purchase. Being a retired 57 year old now I still search for the fresh but also enjoy the heck out of a good groomer making turns like there’s gates on the hill, miss running gates. Always like listening to your board reviews and knowledge of the products, your knowledge is shown by you decades of riding. You have the Mt Baker banked slalom poster that I have been wanting to get tattooed on my forearm, I may have to have you send a high res pic of it
How does the Hometown Hero compare to the Landlord? Like what conditions would you ride it vs. the other. I also have the Landlord 163, love that board.
@@davidb7358 well I haven’t had a chance to ride the Hero in deep powder but the specs on it lead me to believe it will do just fine. The LL is a little over a inch long then the Hero and as far as flex, they feel real similar. With the Hero being a little shorter I feel it will perform a little better on groomers, but the LL also rips on groomers. The Hero is pretty much my go to board, but when (if) it dumps I’ll be grabbing the LL. Hope this helped
I’d be super interested in your take on the Uber-egg. Picked the last one in the UK up in the summer in the hope of some deeps this season. You introduced me to Korua, I started with a ‘56 Dart, but the crazy focused side to side and front to rear rocker boat hull uniqueness of the egg, did I mention the width, just sucked me in. Love the video’s👊🏻
Been riding a bunch of Mervin boards lately and I could not believe how the Rasman 161 rode. It was PHENOMENAL. You guys absolutely need to take it for a test drive. I've ridden all the Mervin boards this year and that Rasman was like "Oh my god" after turn 3.
we Designed a Family Tree Board called the Crowsnest a few years back with Burton....that is one to find as we did 26.8 at the waist in a 157cm......we love wides.....and not because either of us have big feet!
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between a party board and a quiver killer? Which of the discussed boards would you recommend? Previous boards…. Mountain Twin Ltd, Arbor Iguchi pro camber, Burton Skeleton Key Twin, Capita DOA, Public X vans collab. Loved the MTN Twin, the Skeleton Key, and currently loving the Public.
Never see a lot of exposure for Never Summer. I have an old 2016 prototype 2 that I still ride for all mountain chill days when I put down my mega merc evil twin and bataleon surfer. Are they not liked well or is it a regional preference?
For an intermediate to advanced board, that likes all mountain, little park but generally a quick and aggressive rider, would you recommend this or the Captia Merc?
Absolutely love and appreciate all the comparisons you guys do!! I was hoping you could clarify why you recommend the MT Twin over the Frontier for all-mountain? I thought the Frontier is stiffer and more directional/tapered than the MT making it better for all-mountain riding vs. the MT Twin is softer and more of a true twin so better for switch/park/freestyling? Please let me know if I'm wrong as I'm on the fence about these two amazing boards!
Great overview! Thanks guys. I'm in the middle of making a new choice for an all mountain board, and drove my K2 for 17 tears now. It's time to adopt the new innovative boards and experience the new techniques used now a days. Looking for a mid flex board, not top much camber (should i choose a Hybrid with both camber and rocker zones?) and I won't use ut in the park for tricks. I should have a width model because of my 10.5 _ 11.0 booth size. So tips welcome! My short list at the moment is: Jones mountain twin, New Summer Cougar, Lib tech apex orca or Capita Aeronaut. Anyone to help for choosing number 1? Thanks Robin
Hi Robin, I love the aeronaught , but too narrow for 10.5 - 11 boots. I have never had my hands on the never board you have mentioned, so I cannot comment on it. Apex Orca is amazing, and has that Camber line you have mentioned. That would probably be my 1st suggestion for you. Jones Mtn twin with many so many size options, you'll find a perfect fit. More of a standard camber, but with way smoother blends ( early rise ) compared to your 17 yr old K. I feel the Jones Aviator a closer match-up to the Apex orca.
Thanks @@markfawcett9654 My local shop advisor said the same as you did: orca or twin would be a perfect new episode after 17 yrs full camber board with NO smooth edges :-)... Because I prefer a flexy board and playfull style for the coming years, and will stay out of the Park, I have chosen the Twin in a smaller size than Jones advized by their own website table sizes overview. I'm 1.89mtrs tall, 86kg of weight, and booth side is even 12 US (after checking). The advisor told me to buy the 159W version (and NOT the 162W), and my StepOn Burton stance do fit and look okay (and awesome). I'll try in Austria at Jan 28th, so hope the best (buy) for me...
I pulled(YANKED) the trigger on the Aeronaut finally and am so stoked to finally try it. Been sold out everywhere in the size I wanted until the other day...SIIIKED
Good evening, guys. Excellent vid. Super informative! Soooo... I'm brand new to the sport and in search of my first board. Of the 6 absolutely gorgeous choices, which ones would you recommend for beginners? A board that you can grow with as your skill set progresses? Any help or suggestions could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much. Cheers!
I've ridden the same Burton Sherlock 162W(flying v profile) since 2014. I'm 180lbs, 6'2" and wear a size 12 boot. I live in California but ride around the American/Canadian Rockies & PNW. Advanced rider who likes to find the steepest lines in the resort, smash tree runs, and explore side country/hike to nearby peeks. I just got new Burton Photon step ons and need to get the bindings + new board to complete the overdue setup upgrade. I feel pretty confident that all of these would suffice as an improvement, but each top 5 video I watch has its own blend of boards from companies. Do you recommend demoing boards or just pick one and go from there? Any other recs based on my "profile"? Cheers guys!
That shelock in a 162w a great board for you. Look for decks with similar dimentions....even a spec wider than that. Jones Stratos in the Big horn series, Gnu gremlin , Burton Hometown hero in a "W" width come to mind.
Looking in to Korua boards for some time now, but want to know with which board you can compare the Otto the best. Tried myself the Salomon assasin 159,jones frontier 159 and lib tech terrain wrecker 157. Now one a skate banana but want something more all-mountain and carving suited and stiffer than the skate banana for extra stability when carving and making speed. I am 179 cm, boot size 27,0 MP and 56-62 kg over time. Now own the skate banana in 152.
I’m aware the never summer proto fr isn’t on this list but would you recommend the pyl dcp or the proto fr triple camber for an aggressive all mountain powder focused board ? I’m 6’2 and 220lbs , been riding for 24 years , this will be my first year not being a park rat . I wear a size 12 high country or hell bound in a size large union atlas so I need something to accommodate my feet ( 260+ waist width)? Btw fantastic reviews as always .
Thoughts on the Ultra MTN twin? I’m 6’1” and 220 lbs. I have a Burton Flight Attendant which I love for charging and powder days. I’m looking for an all MTN twin to play on more and use when I go with my 10 yo boy. Been considering the Jones Ultra MTN twin, Bataleon Goliath plus, Evil Twin Plus, Capita Mega Merc., or Rome Agent Pro. Thoughts? Also, I love your videos. Great stuff.
Great video and it definitely gives a flavour of what's out there. I see that Jeremy himself says the Jones Mountain Twin is most at home between 10 and 35mph. Does that apply to all these boards? Have you got a video for the top 5 all mountain boards (+1) that are most at home between say 35 and 60mph, or a few recommendations? It's not always apparent which is the next level up in a range of snowboards, or whether to do for intermediate or advanced when internet shopping and it's difficult for me to try out multiple boards so I'd like to narrow it down as much as possible. 6ft1, roughly 230lbs, CASI lvl 2, have ridden the Delirium Dive and survived. Will be riding in the French Alps this season though so quite interested in the magna traction type edging since I'm usually riding bullet proof polished pistes more than nip deep pow (not through choice).
Cheers !! With this info we would say check out a Jones Aviator , Korua Cafe Racer , or a Capita MEGA Mercury .... those are some of our favorite High Spped Machines!!
Have an Aviator in my quiver and agree it is a great high speed board. Also have a mntn twin, and it feels stable at 80% the speed of the aviator. GPS yourself…I highly doubt you are going as fast as you think you are…and definitely aren’t going those speeds as an average. It’s really tough to even get close to 50 mph. I’ve straight lined a whole black diamond run at marmot basin on an icy day first thing in the morning when it was cold and fast. Fresh wax. Scared myself as air was starting to lift the board and my gps said my top speed was 85 km/hr (52mph). Would have swore I was closer to 60mph.
@@gpaull2I hit 89.9 kmh at Sunshine in the bowl but I was straightlining it and I'm 230lbs. You're right ...even an average of 50kmh is a fast run because most top speeds are only for a second or two.
Finally got around to watching this. I think you need to do one of your vids on sidecut radius and styles (radial, progressive, etc.) and how that aligns to carving and other riding. It feels like there was a trend of much smaller/tighter sidecuts for many years (think 6.0 to low 7s) that is moving back to larger sidecuts (8.0 +/-), which is my preference. My impression is most of the boards that Mark likes have larger sidecuts, but the HTH has a much smaller one. So other than the tight turn of a banked slalom, why pick the HTH? (Note, I found it harsh and unforgiving when I owned a 156.) For reference, I have been riding since '89 and seen a lot of trends come and go. Thanks again for these vids! They get the wheels spinning and keep the progression going!
So I actually have a theory as to what the idea behind mervin’s C3 camber is, I think the idea is to more evenly distribute camber as on a conventionally cambered board there’s probably going to be an area of low pressure between your feet
The tail was a bit more of a pin tail last year and I heard that it was a little bit stiffer last year as well. I own the 24 Banked Country and I absolutely love it!
I have the 2020/2021 PYL...the one with the natural wood and moss green and white graphics. That board fucking rips. I have the 162 and it's a total monster. I have the Now Drive set up on it. I just bought last year's Banked Country and just ordered the Mercury bindings to set up on it. What wax would you recommend for the Banked Country? I'll be at Winter Park, Copper and A Basin all season with a few days at Boat. Like you duders, I've been riding since "92 when I was 15. Love being in the culture most of my life. It's a right of passage for sure.
I’ve watched a few of these type of videos and for the most part I really enjoy them and find them entertaining if not educational. However I find myself genuinely curios as to why none that I have seen ever mention Nidecker boards, specifically the ‘Ultra’ & ‘Megalight’ or even the ‘Gun’. Anyone who’s ever ridden Nidecker boards will attest not only to their sublime performance but also the innovative way in they approach snowboarding. I’m curious because they’ve been doing so for years and if you look closer, you’ll see that some of the boards that come up in these type of ‘Top Five etc’ videos are actually made in the Nidecker factory in Switzerland, yet the company’s boards are rarely if ever mentioned. If I’m not mistaken I seem to remember one of the top tier Jones boards at one point was made by Nidecker and might possibly still be the case, although don’t take my word for it. It really would add so much more credibility to these type of videos if they were at least acknowledged once in a while. I’ve been riding the Mega and Ultra for years. Each year I try other boards from just about any manufacturer worth considering and every time it’s the same, yea they’re good but nothing comes close to the experience I get from Nidecker boards. -Seal ✌🏾&💜
Probably because Tribute doesn't seem to carry Nidecker boards in the shop, only bindings. Don't forget that these guys run a board shop, and obviously part of the goal of these videos is to move product. I'm sure if you drop by and chat them up, they'll tell you about the Nidecker boards they've tested, but for their product picks, they go with the stuff they have in inventory.
Dudes. Good stuff. I am super pumped to ride a Gril master this season. There is still so much positive hype around the Burton deep thinker and the hometown hero. Considering trying those as well. How will the three ride different?
Grill rides more like an older board. Very strong response off the tail, and lots of hold back there too. Older nose shape ( in a good way ) but with modern tec and that gorgeous early rise. I LOVE it. Best Burton board I've ridden since the crowsnest. Deep thinker and HH super similar in their riding. Easy to manuver in the tight spots. totaly swiss army knife...does it all really well. SOOO many size options with the HH, you can find an ideal fit. Deep thinker super similar HH, really just slightly different width dimentions and graphics.
Thanks. Excited to ride a grilmaster. Confused on sizing. 5’10” 190 lbs. size 12 boot. Mostly ride in Midwest so short, narrow, crowded runs. I have recommended to go with 155w or 160.
Kaua auto, Capita Mega Death, or Burton Mystery Hometown Hero. Which would you choose? I'm leaning towards Mystery hometown hero, but these reviews have me second guessing myself. High speeds/carving, dabble in the park but not much, eastcoaster so not crazy powder (stick to Vermont/Quebec).
What would be the main difference between Capita Aeronaut, Mercury and BSOD? Which would be more freeride agressive All-Mountain and less freestyle, park oriented?
How does the skeleton key go against the hometown and the Otto? Which of the three boards is better for chop, ice, hard pack moguls. Carving and aggresssive riding?? Thanks Shane n mark!
@@tributeboardshop What board/boards would you say would be good choices for those days where it’s hard pack out, to just go out and have fun making turns and getting airborne? Damp would be a nice quality too. Thanks !
I picked up a jones mountain twin, and my edge is now delaminating off of my top sheet. Not sure if I want to buy another jones board or not. Any thoughts?
@@tributeboardshop I ended up being able to just return the board to rei and then I bought myself a Salomon assassin pro. Just don’t trust the jones quality anymore.
So pick your line uninc for a around 180lbs ? I’m doubting 155 or 157. Bootsize 10-10,5 depending on brand. I ride the alps I am higher intermediate or a tad more but far from pro and far from done with learning at 40 of age
Just ordered the Banked Country paired with the new Union Forces! Hope it will be a fun board for the east coast. Oh and the easter egg im guessing is you two wearing the same colors of flannel that the guy wears in the red and green show (blue & red) haha
@@alansarrol4803 I own the 24 Banked Country with the new Union Forces as well. I absolutely love it. I live in the Midwest so I ride plenty of ice and garbage and this board handles business.
What would you suggest for a 135 lbs, 5'5 women with long feets! got a have men's 9.5 because women size don't work. Looking for allmountain mainly riding groomed terrain because powder is so rare in our place. Not doing park.
Hey guys what would you say is probably the biggest difference between the Jones MTN twin and the stratos? I just picked up the mtn twin in a splitboard and I couldn’t be any more excited. I’m on the east coast so now deep powder ahaha But I am in Quebec so we go get a decent amount of snow compared to the rest of the east
The tail is the biggest difference - and how the side cut will exit - we tent to think of the Stratos as a " Freeride" and the Twin as an All Mountain.....but if you are into hard carving and more directional riding then we choose the Stratos!
Easy Answer is yes - especially because we love the new tail design . Stability in all aspects is greater and you can really hammer the apex of a turn now! ( BUT , if you only have 25 or so days on the other.... its likely still in great shape and should be ridden more! )
