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@JelloImpact
@JelloImpact 16 дней назад
There’s others that deserved a higher spot than some on this list btw. You’ll see all the changes on my full and final pre-natlan tier list soon!
@trickshotftw2110
@trickshotftw2110 16 дней назад
Do you play viewers account jello? I can't 3 star floor 12 and lost 50 primos. I'm gonna loose it again. Need help. I have skill issues.
@raycigar6356
@raycigar6356 16 дней назад
@@trickshotftw2110This abyss floor 12 is perfect for Pyro teams, if all ur team members level and talents are highly invested ​it's possible for 33-36stars abyss, try burgeon instead of hyperbloom for floor 12 abyss
@trickshotftw2110
@trickshotftw2110 16 дней назад
@@raycigar6356 I don't have pyro dps. Only arlecchino. And don't have Thoma either. All 4 star weapon. Total f2p
@raycigar6356
@raycigar6356 16 дней назад
@@trickshotftw2110 change the strategy then by beating each chamber with different optimized teams, I really recommend watching sevyplays abyss guide or jyos spiral abyss guide beforehand xD
@Lennis01
@Lennis01 15 дней назад
I won't claim that Electro Traveler is a great unit, but being in the bottom tier is pretty harsh. I have an unusual trio of Raiden, Noelle, and Yoimiya, which doesn't seem to have much synergy on the surface, but having Electro Traveler actually makes it work. The team has a good blend of offense and defense, and it rarely has energy issues. My Lumine isn't even optimized as a battery, but she still works well enough in the role.
@grandpowr
@grandpowr 16 дней назад
I think Layla was done dirty on this tier list, I love using her and she was the difference in 36 starring the Abyss thanks to her shield.
@kazuhadakaze4542
@kazuhadakaze4542 16 дней назад
I also love layla so much her sheald literally unbreakable
@maevethefox5912
@maevethefox5912 16 дней назад
I used her to 36 star this time, I usually play Yoimiya shieldless but the Kenki just needed a shield and she was so comfy to play with.
@KoiinuNe
@KoiinuNe 16 дней назад
Layla is top 3 shields to me in the game!
@glitchvariable5336
@glitchvariable5336 16 дней назад
Not just that but normal attack/charged attack boost based upon 5% of her max hp as a constellation 4.
@kazuhadakaze4542
@kazuhadakaze4542 16 дней назад
@@glitchvariable5336 bruh when? 💀
@Shane_A_M
@Shane_A_M 16 дней назад
I could feel the ‘disappointed dad’ energy from Jello the whole livestream 😂
@ssieceleste77
@ssieceleste77 16 дней назад
Man somehow gaved chat toddler timeout to think abt what we did but results were almost the same after revoting lawl
@alexegoleanu942
@alexegoleanu942 16 дней назад
I saw Childe coming, the fact that his international team lasted so much in the meta is amazing
@sapedibeppo
@sapedibeppo 15 дней назад
Now let's get Top 5 Most OVERRATED Characters in Genshin Impact 😂 Would be so funny to see mains get angry
@1handclaps
@1handclaps 15 дней назад
Baizhu Xiao Beidou Ayaka Raiden
@warrencaelum9536
@warrencaelum9536 14 дней назад
Xiao, Chevreuse, Xianyun, Kaeya, Albedo
@lakshyaverma6648
@lakshyaverma6648 14 дней назад
Xiao, Yae Miko, Kaeya, Beidou, Mona.
@aoikokomi8625
@aoikokomi8625 14 дней назад
the top 1 over rated is zhongli
@hellothere9169
@hellothere9169 14 дней назад
@@1handclapswdym Ayaka? She’s in T2, no chance you’re saying she’s in the same tier as Diluc
@velicaleon
@velicaleon 16 дней назад
We did my girl Charlotte dirty 😭😭😭
@mickysaif
@mickysaif 14 дней назад
there's literally nothing special about her kit tho except camera
@yeager6947
@yeager6947 14 дней назад
shes worst than mika lmao
@musicaltarrasque
@musicaltarrasque 13 дней назад
@@yeager6947 she is the only real off-field cryo ap, which is only really useful if you need that extra 15% crit
@velicaleon
@velicaleon 13 дней назад
​@@mickysaif being a cryo party-wide healer is relevant with Furina around, she is featured in Neuv's 2nd most popular team (1st one being Baizhu instead of Charlotte, and she beats Zhongli who is at 3rd), and she also opens up Furina Freeze comps This cycle her usage rate is 5th highest among 4-stars, beating Faruzan, Chevreuse and Fischl
@juniorbarranqueiro
@juniorbarranqueiro 13 дней назад
​@@musicaltarrasqueLayla is really sad reading this hahahahahhahaah
@lucasfmhomem
@lucasfmhomem 16 дней назад
Of the 5 star dpses, for me it's Ganyu. As much as people say she has fallen off and can't keep up with the meta, in my experience she perform at a similar level of my other 5 star dpses in Abyss even in this age of cryo hell. The best thing about Ganyu is the versatily between freeze and melt, which means the door is always open for her regardless of the team I play in the other side. Every abyss she's one of my first choices to 36 stars and she clears very comfortably when the team has defensive utility, but it's also fun to try her shieldless for some amateur speedrunning. Besides that, she's easily one of the best dpses for domains and overworld.
@derman1907
@derman1907 16 дней назад
Burn melt Ganyu is so much fun to play. I'm glad the Unfinished Reverie set is in the same domain as Arlecchino's set.
@lucasfmhomem
@lucasfmhomem 16 дней назад
@@derman1907 it's my favorite team in the game. I'm still trying to finish my Navia, but I want to farm that domain so much (I also have Arlecchino).
@magiclover9346
@magiclover9346 16 дней назад
I've always thought Ganyu is a bit underrated. Even when Ayaka was on top of the meta. That said Hoyo have done cryo dirty in Fontaine. The element to recieve the least ammount of love and it shows. T2 seems reasonable. Pre Fontaine def T1. I still use my Ganyu though and my Ayaka it's just more difficult than the t1 dps's
@josetomasrivera5782
@josetomasrivera5782 16 дней назад
​@@derman1907 yess bro that team feels so good. I run her with the new set, dehya em, bennet and nahida. I had very good results with the team 👍
@kktrwa5385
@kktrwa5385 16 дней назад
finally someone said it
@samlovespizzas7478
@samlovespizzas7478 16 дней назад
For Childe, just wait for natlan, he will be getting buffs by pyro archon or other pyro units soon
@Matthew_1904
@Matthew_1904 16 дней назад
as will other hydro characters
@rsatriasuryacandra23
@rsatriasuryacandra23 16 дней назад
@@Matthew_1904 no other hydro character can apply hydro as fast as childe, before you mention it, xq is ST
@ThanasonKaewprapan
@ThanasonKaewprapan 16 дней назад
I think it must be pyro archon cuz I pretty sure they dont make non-archon char stronger than bennett and xl cuz they is too op.
@supernieva2419
@supernieva2419 16 дней назад
5* xiangling and 5* bennet in natlan
@wall6587
@wall6587 16 дней назад
I cope everyday with foward vape childe becominga thing in natlan😭
@WiffleWaffIe
@WiffleWaffIe 16 дней назад
One of my friends uses kirara, and shes actually really good! She can actually dish out a lot of damage in her burst! Even with 2 piece hp 2 piece er she is pretty great!
14 дней назад
She is my favorite 4 star shield, in standards she is my second best shielder!
@twalker5801
@twalker5801 15 дней назад
If the entire world map was packed full of enemies, Childe could kill them all with one swing. If only…
@vuozb
@vuozb 16 дней назад
im surprised ayato didn't make this list he's a really comfortable DPS to play and he's also one of the most flexible DPS his damage isn't the best but it's decent enough to clear abyss and over world he also contributes a lot to teams with his insane amount of Hydro application and how fast he is and he has a lot of teams for example, international, hyperbloom taser just to name a few I also think ganyu very underrated EDIT: I forgot to mention that both ganyu and ayato can even be used as great off field supports and sub DPS
@taylorgreen2954
@taylorgreen2954 15 дней назад
As someone who has both units, The problem with Ayato is that Kokomi pretty much outclasses him in almost every situation, sure he has some teams where he’d be a better fit on paper, however overall people would much rather use Kokomi as you’re trading some damage (which is arguable if you’re running her on OHC or in dendro teams where she often out damages him) and some AoE for much more comfort, alongside having the option to run supportive weapons and artifacts on her.
@danielcarrilho5217
@danielcarrilho5217 15 дней назад
True Ayato is the comfiest national variant, even if its not the highest dmg You always have hydro app on demand (unlike childe) and also have resistance to interruption (unlike C0 neuvilette) I have all three of them btw
@Laryon720
@Laryon720 12 дней назад
Tartaglia is sooooooooo fun to play and the fact that hes melee but still have the option to do range attack to target weak point of doom guard and puzzle is amazing
@pizzapanda8159
@pizzapanda8159 15 дней назад
For me it's Ayato. Since Neuvilette's release everyone neglects Ayato while he is still the most versatile character in the game. He works in any roll, main dps, sub dps, support and applicator on/off field. He works in any hydro based team, which is almost every meta team. And works as a hyper carry due to good personal damage
@NatalyHaldey
@NatalyHaldey 16 дней назад
I'm always using Childe in the abyss and he actually has flexibility. Hyperbloom with Nahida, Kuki and Zhongli is my favourite team and I have used it in the abyss about 9 times. For hyperbloom he needs c1, but I wouldn't say it's expensive, considering how good he is in the abyss and how much value he brings to the account
@Tmbpdbt
@Tmbpdbt 16 дней назад
Lisa is underrated by the community imho. Her kit is thoughtful and great for aggravate. She’s also a good hyperbloomer since her tap E has a small AOE for triggering hyperblooms.
@bighat8794
@bighat8794 16 дней назад
C6 Faruzan is T1 bcuz she carries her niche, with that standard I think Mika was done dirty the most. Not only he also carries his niche but he can even be used out of it by NA spam units like Wanderer n Wrio and as if it wasnt enough he is also a decent option for Furina. His niche is weaker than Faru's one so I can understand that we dont put them in the same tier but T2 or T3 at very least.
@polychromaa
@polychromaa 16 дней назад
Yun jin is even worse. She can only be used by wanderer, ayato, and yoimiya effectively and only in ST. Even then she isn’t best in slot. At least mika is best in slot somewhere
@shironasama0445
@shironasama0445 16 дней назад
Shenhe should be T1 if Faruzan is
@bighat8794
@bighat8794 16 дней назад
@@polychromaa Exactly
@levi3248
@levi3248 16 дней назад
Mika isn’t necessary for the niche. Even at c6 he’s barely an upgrade to a Bennett, Raiden Rosario team. The fact that the character he was MADE to support, Eula, has her best team being Hyperbloom… Faruzan is ESSENTIAL to make Xiao and Wanderer good, and both of them outperform Eula heavily. Mika isn’t even in Eula’s best team (He’s still pretty good as a Furina healer in a normal attack team but…that’s not really high tier worthy)
@bighat8794
@bighat8794 16 дней назад
@@levi3248 Mika easily improves Eula n Fremi's best teams in the physical archetype. ("Raiden Mika Furina" is more consistant n convenient than "Raiden Furina Bennett" or "Raiden Rosaria Bennett"). Hyperbloom is not a Eula team, Eula is just a filler for the meme here so I dont count it. He is less necessary than Faruzan ofc but he has almost as much impact on his main dps as she does since he brings a reliable Furina support. So again , I dont see him equal to Faru n nobody was talking about high tier worthy but he totally deserves T3 at very least.
@wTryyNa
@wTryyNa 16 дней назад
As a Chongyun main, I see so many non-theorycrafter creators undervalue Chongyun. This is the second time I see someone who isn't Clueless
@reactiondavant-garde3391
@reactiondavant-garde3391 16 дней назад
Chongyun was bizarre. He even get buffed with the new artifact set in burn melt.
@wall6587
@wall6587 16 дней назад
Childe suffers the curse of only being understood by those who play him 😔
@tryme9740
@tryme9740 14 дней назад
Yeah, I see so many people say he's so bad yet they put the worst artifact known to man on him with the most incapable team where he isn't flexible
@milosaga5450
@milosaga5450 13 дней назад
@@tryme9740 Yeah like it's not even hard to build him, he thrives on 2pc 2pc!
@jthompson7024
@jthompson7024 16 дней назад
Tier 3 was WILD for Klee. That's coming from someone who has her benched most of the time but I still recognize she's borderline 2 possibly 1. Childe too. He has one real team but that team is one of the best AOE teams in the game. Easy T1
@NatalyHaldey
@NatalyHaldey 16 дней назад
I use Childe in hyperbloom and it's super strong, always clears the abyss perfectly
@madzaisa
@madzaisa 16 дней назад
I think Childe is down by one tier by default for just being Childe.
@jthompson7024
@jthompson7024 16 дней назад
@@NatalyHaldey It definitely works because hyperbloom is just a great mechanic and abyss really isn't that difficult for invested accounts but it's definitely not a team meant for him as much. You don't really need/want that much hydro on hyperbloom teams
@moritz4026
@moritz4026 16 дней назад
yeah, high tier 2 or lower tier 1. when furina came out and i tried building klee properly for the first time, i was blown away by her performance because she is so incredibly underrated by the community and i didnt expect anything special. now i consistently test her each abyss and she always has some of the better clear times. my other characters also use 5* weapons while she just needs widsith and still performs. kinda like wanderer though since shes squishy/hard to pilot
@schwarzwaldbrot8487
@schwarzwaldbrot8487 16 дней назад
Everyone who places klee low is either a meta chaser or literally never played her. And it feels like no one has ever recognised the ridiculous power of her c1
@froggybean194
@froggybean194 16 дней назад
finally a content creator that respects klees damage (coming from a person who got klee on her first banner, she carried me through so many early abyss runs)
@ChrisUchiha7
@ChrisUchiha7 16 дней назад
After arle, klee’s dps is not worth the 5 star price.
@faerieinwonderland
@faerieinwonderland 16 дней назад
Klee helped me get my first 36 star, she’s great ✨
@theskywalker8416
@theskywalker8416 16 дней назад
she is cute but now we have too many good dps. Arlec and Neu are crack for example
@moritz4026
@moritz4026 15 дней назад
​@@ChrisUchiha7 you can say that about the rest of the tier 2 and tier 3 carries if not a bunch of the t1 carries. this isnt about pull value its about strength when you do play them and klee is up there. carries tend not to have much value once you get a few top tier carries. if you did want to approach pulling purely from added account value
@ooo1o8o1
@ooo1o8o1 15 дней назад
It's a gacha game so at some point naturally the new units will be much stronger and easier to play I still enjoy using klee and childe and they are good enough
@ryzhik9608
@ryzhik9608 16 дней назад
There's a huge thing why I think Chongyun is better than Rosaria and Kaeya: Xianyun's existence. Xianyun just made him a better character than these two
@JelloImpact
@JelloImpact 16 дней назад
Fair point tbh
@aatb3719
@aatb3719 16 дней назад
Chongyun, Xianyun, Shenhe and Furina is a funny team.
@masterjedicat
@masterjedicat 16 дней назад
I don't think he's necessarily better now, but he's certainly at least at the same level. He's a better main DPS, he has useful cooldown reduction and fun Cryo infusion, while Kaeya and Rosaria offer more Cryo application and because of that are often considered better sub-DPS units for Melt teams. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses, but I wouldn't say that any of them is significantly higher or lower in terms of power.
@mikkunmikkichi3762
@mikkunmikkichi3762 16 дней назад
That's just a meme team. Youre describing an onfield dps chongyun which still pales in comparison to other teams. . Kaeya, rosa fills offfield dps+support roles. They are just that good as 4* units on many teams.
@masterjedicat
@masterjedicat 16 дней назад
@@mikkunmikkichi3762 It is a meme, but the damage is real though.
@purrloin7769
@purrloin7769 16 дней назад
the main team i use with childe is hyerbloom, he's my hydro driver. and it's very comfy, i use it for one of my spiral abyss teams on mobil and i can 36* it
@novalynn3562
@novalynn3562 16 дней назад
Glad to know that works! I've been curious about Childe hyperbloom
@NatalyHaldey
@NatalyHaldey 16 дней назад
I use him in hyperbloom too, really like this team
@justawalter9752
@justawalter9752 15 дней назад
The issue with that is that Childe has down time. During his uptime he applies a lot of hydro but after his uptime you lose out on a very significant amount bloom cores that could’ve been hyperbloomed. Characters that have uptime on their application all the time like Xingqiu or Ayato are just significantly better than Childe in Hyperbloom. He "works" because it’s hyperbloom but using Xingqiu will give you significantly better results
@reveriesend4668
@reveriesend4668 14 дней назад
I rolled for Nilou's weapon. It's for Kirara. Nilou can use that umbrella thingy.
@apriljameee
@apriljameee 14 дней назад
When you mentioned Chongyun, my heart skipped a beat 🥹 that’s literally my baby boy and I do agree that he’s in the same tier as Kaeya and Rosaria. Kaeya-Chongyun on Freeze Teams is actually good with Kaeya as the main dps.
@sugarghost8777
@sugarghost8777 16 дней назад
One of my favorite things about Navia is that she makes so many 1.0 characters relevant. I’m tired of everyone using some version of a xiangling, bennet, fischl, xinqiu team (idc if they’re good. It’s so boring.) I plan on building a mono cryo Rosaria, Kaeya, Chongyun w Navia eventually cause they’re some of my fav characters and I wanna use them
@GilbertGuilford
@GilbertGuilford 16 дней назад
I've been using Navia with Albedo, Rosaria and Diona, and that team has been a blast for me. Chiori, Kaeya and Layla can all be used as substitutes but I find Albedo and Rosaria to provide most crystalize shards for Navia.
@reactiondavant-garde3391
@reactiondavant-garde3391 16 дней назад
Navia is pretty good in the sense thet basicly you can give any off-field elemental applicator + defensive unit to her and she will work well in any combination. I still think she is one of the cheapest main carry charatcerin the game, you don't need any fancy support for her only a good artifact sets or a good weapen and she already good to go.
@sugarghost8777
@sugarghost8777 12 дней назад
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 exactly why I use her! I’m extremely f2p (I’ve never even bought a welkin) and I started playing around 2022, but not really seriously until Kaveh’s banner. I don’t really have that many characters built, but she’s extremely versatile and I can basically plug her into any team and she’ll do well
@reactiondavant-garde3391
@reactiondavant-garde3391 12 дней назад
@@sugarghost8777 I really enjoy thet aspect of her as well. People say she really want Bennet, but she is so strong on a base line thet I can use double cryo with 67 crit rate with the Melusine Weapen and she easily clear the Abyss. Basicly allowing me to use Bennet and Xiangling on other side etc.
@sugarghost8777
@sugarghost8777 11 дней назад
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 yep yep! Navia doesn’t want any specific characters, I think ppl are just used to using those specific characters on every team lol. I actually don’t even have a Bennett he’s never been on any banner I’ve pulled on 😭
@amyreynolds27
@amyreynolds27 16 дней назад
Kirara is 100% best girl. I run her most often with Nahida/Kuki/Ayato and it’s super comfy and made me extremely lazy tbh. I had sac sword on her for a while and the double backflip with her skill is so much fun
@dokidokidango1896
@dokidokidango1896 16 дней назад
Can't believe I just found your channel yesterday. The algorithm does do its job every so often after all!
@zanzatbc
@zanzatbc 16 дней назад
I watched the stream live, loved the idea! and honestly I believe you should also do another video for the most overrated units because the things I’ve seen between t0 and t1 got me to the brink of a breakdown.
@frostyyy6823
@frostyyy6823 16 дней назад
I agree Childe is a T1 character (maybe at the bottom or in the middle), but your reasons are very weak and you haven’t mentioned things such as er threshold and the difference between playing Childe international right and playing it casually
@beancake
@beancake 16 дней назад
I joined towards the end of the chat stream -- it was really fun to vote on the last few. Great idea! I love Chongyun, but still only C3 for me. Maybe he'll get to C6 by Snezhnaya...
@Is_this_Aviral
@Is_this_Aviral 16 дней назад
New day new jello video, couldn't ask for a better start of my day 😁😁
@mauronoacontaldomurgia2088
@mauronoacontaldomurgia2088 16 дней назад
Intergrassional totally forgotten by everyone :'(
@corruptedSavefil
@corruptedSavefil 16 дней назад
I got in unexpected early tartag last rerun and international has been my lord and savior ever since. Im a fairly new player and to this day its been my only non furi/neuv dependent team to 9 star floor 12
@Serendi3
@Serendi3 16 дней назад
As a regular viewer of your channel, thank you for giving your unbiased opinion on characters. You mentioned before that you're not the biggest fan of Wanderer, so seeing him on this list was surprising. This is another reason why I highly value your opinion and love your content :)
@cunillati
@cunillati 16 дней назад
first of all, the best part of all this is we know it doesn´t matter what tier is your favourite character, you can clear all content with her/him. Also I´m super surprised. I´m main Klee since its first release, have her at C6 and top 1%. I know people don´t like her because it requires time and repetition to master the right ranges etc etc and because of that I´m used to people underrating her. I don´t mind cause as said, I know I can play any character and still clear abyss full stars BUT it made me so happy to listen you find her underrated
@yuugael4010
@yuugael4010 16 дней назад
now do the top 5 overatted
@amivag
@amivag 16 дней назад
I left the stream after klee ranking because i noticed that a lot of people ranking don't know what some carecters can do they are ranking based on how many times they see the carecter on speed runs and streamers team's
@BruceShz
@BruceShz 16 дней назад
As always a great and helpful video! Magnificent content. Also In my opinion; if we are counting the constellations, I think Wriothesley is is grossly underrated (Day one C0 Wriothesley main here) I think the problem is that his only banner was sandwiched between Neuvillette and Furina's. This tierlist is good man, But not gonna lie Klee over Wriothesley and many other more viable units is a little triggering. Keep the good content man and good luck.
@17_SevenT6
@17_SevenT6 16 дней назад
I'd like to see your opinion on who the best c6 4 stars are
@BeavisVolg
@BeavisVolg 16 дней назад
You have clearly not seen childe burgeon with thoma... It goes Childe, Thoma, Nahida and Kazuha with nahida on prototype amber. It is THE best team in AoE in the game...
@mark349321
@mark349321 13 дней назад
No it's not Good though
@Kalagni1000
@Kalagni1000 16 дней назад
I agree Kirara underrated. She can be build as pseudo on field dps and driver in Hyperbloom team. Especially if you have Furina, she can use Marecheusse Hunter sets to up her dmg and fill the gap in Hyperbloom rotation. You got shield, dmg from burst, and a bit dendro application.
@myszowata9544
@myszowata9544 16 дней назад
Hey Jello, can you do a traveller guide? Give builds and teams for every possible element traveller can obtain? :)
@John_II
@John_II 14 дней назад
Thanks for the Chongyun love! He's under-rated and carried me through the early game with Fischl, Xiangling and Traveler. Sure, he's not top tier, but off-field application is solid, damage is solid and he's a claymore, which makes him good for mining.
@wannjuuuuuuuu
@wannjuuuuuuuu 16 дней назад
everyone that puts childe in T2 its either YOU GUYS DONT UNDERSTAND HOW TO MAXIMIZE HIS STRENGTH or u guys just either STUPIDLY DENYING that his team is on top 3 on the abyss, dont deny it anymore and just accept it, his power is enabling so many hydro for his team and not himself
@SillyPutty125
@SillyPutty125 16 дней назад
I pulled for Childe on his most recent banner (right after Neuvillette release) and I have to say, boy did I feel like he was overhyped: he did not feel like a T1 character. Maybe I got unlucky with the particular abyss that I brought him to to test him out, but the fact that he can't swap out during pyronado means that you miss out on both swirls in multi-wave content. It feels so bad to overkill a wave mid rotation, and then have your damage profile drop off a cliff while you battery Xiangling and wait for cooldowns. I'm sure if you can clear the enemies in 1.5 rotations he feels amazing, because his team's damage profile is so frontloaded, but all of the more recent characters in Sumeru and Fontaine have much more flexible rotations. Childe probably also feels a lot better with higher investment levels, but I'm f2p (rocking The Catch and Skyward Harp), and I build my characters to 36 star, not to speedrun.
@mayukhmondal5552
@mayukhmondal5552 16 дней назад
Nah man you are just coping and batchesting his performance based on c2 kazuha speedruns... There are some c0 speedruns aswell but the speedrunners themselves say it took them 1-2k abyss resets. If you consider that baseline, I have nothing to tell ya. Any post 3.0 team straight up outperforms international in abyss.and thats coming from a 1.0 player who has been playing and investing in international since kazuha became first available in 1.6. T2 is generous. Xiangling has better uses and so does Kazuha.
@samruthasriee-yg9dd
@samruthasriee-yg9dd 16 дней назад
@@mayukhmondal5552 if speedruns are the only things to define a good team, you've lost more than 80% of the players. In speedruns, Raiden Hyper and Arlecchino can straight up one shot chambers. Even Wriothesley can one shot. International has been top 5 with Childe and Kazuha WITHOUT five star weapons. Only 3.0 team that will ever outdamage international is Alhaitham's quickbloom team and MAYBE Tighnari in ST. Nilou and Cyno are good but straight up can't even compete. Even in 4.0, Neuvillette and Arlecchino are the only ones who can compete with international. If anything I think you just proved the point every body brings up when they say Childe is underrated. Cause he just really is
@mayukhmondal5552
@mayukhmondal5552 16 дней назад
@@samruthasriee-yg9dd brother you need a reality check. Aoe multitarget content nilou consistently outperforms international if international cannot one rotate the chamber . Your baseline hyperbloom teams oftentimes end up outperforming international under a similar clause Lyney has been straight up outperforming international in both single target and multi target and so is navia .. There is now a plethora of teams with furina which on a casual level outperform international, one of them being kokomi mono hydro .🤣 And talking of comfort Do you know what totally outpaces international and is significantly more comfortable? Neuvellete instead of tartaglia in THE SAME TEAM . I suggest you play different things with an open mind , see it for yourself instead of taking opinions you catch online
@JoyceGL
@JoyceGL 15 дней назад
@@mayukhmondal5552 You need to think more critically. Nilou outperforming internat is cap. Internat has quad scalings unlike nilou so from a theoretical standpoint, nilou is out of the picture. Firstly, she literally can't do anything when its ST and when elemental checks come in. Secondly, even in aoe, opponents would sometimes literally spread out apart and it just feels horrible. Alhaitham quickbloom and maybe double hydro hb only outperforms internat in ST. Aint no way bro said Lyney and Navia outperforms internat in AOE 💀. When elemental checks comes in, Lyney wont stand a chance. In addition, Lyney is pretty much ST unless you somehow keep opponents grouped up for his CA and skill to hit- which sometimes isn't possible. Using Tartag to keep the grouping should be relatively easier since knockback. The grouping argument stays the same for Navia, but its harder for her to keep them grouped so its safe to say she basically have no aoe. Also, if you cant kill opponents fast enough with 2 skills, you're pretty much done. Regarding the kokomi team you mentioned, it is more expensive than internat, and it isnt that good in AOE and falls off when elemental checks come in. You do realize that Neuve national (neuv - benny- xl - kaz) is for from optimal 💀. If your neuv is c0, he'll likely get knocked around in that team💀. Talk abt comfort smh. While there certainly are teams that outperforms internat in certain scenarios, Internat still remains a great overall team (at least top 5 imo).
@superherofan9425
@superherofan9425 16 дней назад
Maybe I am a little biased (a lot biased, he is my favourite character ever of all time and the only character so far I have triple crowned) but I think Diluc should be higher up tbh, especially after the release of Furina and Xianyun, and especially if we say you have done some investment into him (I know very well it takes a lot of investment for him to do a fair amount of damage). I have done 370k plunges on my Diluc with a friend's Furina (I am getting her don't worry, just waiting for her rerun) and that was with Crimson Witch and not with Marachaussee Hunter which would be bis for that team. Honestly I keep being surprised sometimes how much damage he can do (I don't even have a five star weapon on him yet, because f2p), even when I solo and run Yelan instead of Furina. I don't think he necessarily belongs in the highest tier, but I would argue for bumping him up a tier imo, but I will admit it takes a lot of investment to get him to do a lot of damage in turn.
@tristianity8529
@tristianity8529 9 дней назад
Plunge diluc is great, he works well even on floor 12 with that team, he definatly deserves to be bumped up 1 if not 2 tiers.
@tuinhoofd1923
@tuinhoofd1923 16 дней назад
I love using kirara on aggravate teams, the shield is super helpful for no interruptions, and with her ( I think ) c4 she applies a decent amount of denro with regular attacks when that shield is up. She's even a part of my favourite yae team, baizhu, yae, kirara, kazuha, even prefer using her to fischl in that slot, super comfy
@faerieinwonderland
@faerieinwonderland 16 дней назад
Being in this livestream voting for the characters rank was one of the most fun and annoying feeling I’ve ever felt hahahaha 😂
@ascreamingarcticfox5395
@ascreamingarcticfox5395 15 дней назад
childe isnt locked to national. he can use nahida in place of xiangling and have kazuha be the burgeon driver, it can even outdps national sometimes
@MulderHiggins
@MulderHiggins 16 дней назад
the thumbnail got me super excited for this!
@walter1824
@walter1824 11 дней назад
Geo Traveler is criminal I got him to 100k skill damage in 4.0 thanks to Golden Troupe while he`s at 70% crit rate
@awakenedcrowl
@awakenedcrowl 16 дней назад
Just out of curiosity: Can someone tell me where the ranking system of "T0, T1, T2" instead of just "S to F Tier" suddenly came from? And... why? I mean, once you get it, it's clear enough, but it just confuses my why so many people suddenly changed to use that instead of the Letters we've known for years.
@phoenixlau
@phoenixlau 16 дней назад
It has always been a thing. For instance, tier 1 special forces refer to the most elite units in the military. IMO it is a more objective system than letter, because there is no "good"/"bad" value judgement in the ranking. 1 just means above 2, which is above 3. Whereas with letter there is an association with school grades and failing, so you get inflationary A-, A+, S, SS, SSS so that people don't get butthurt that their favorite is B or C.
@awakenedcrowl
@awakenedcrowl 16 дней назад
@@phoenixlau Huh, thanks. Didn't know that origin. As for the other part... I mean, I get the idea, but I hardly think that this other way will change anything about that. The same people that get butthurt and/or introduce "SSS OMEGA GOD HYPER TIER" to the equation, will still bring "Tier -1, -2" to "Tier Infinity" to this kind of scheme.
@maevethefox5912
@maevethefox5912 15 дней назад
Is Instructor significantly better than Noblesse for Kirara in a Yae/Fischl Aggravate team? I'm just realizing I've had her on Noblesse since I got her and never really thought deeper about it.
@ButtonsTaru
@ButtonsTaru 14 дней назад
Love this video and as someone who clears Abyss with both Wanderer and Klee, I can wholly agree. Klee in a Kleerina (Klee+Furina) or a Klee/Furina/Xianyun team is just really good. The current Abyss is so hard and I was easily able to clear it yesterday with Klee, she was a little monster. :)
@moriko-chan1059
@moriko-chan1059 15 дней назад
As someone who used both Wanderer and Arlecchino ... I agree on Thoma
@the_knave01
@the_knave01 16 дней назад
To Hell with community standards ! Even after a year i don't have a single c5/c6 characters and with the use of every resin my 4 stars has shit artifacts coz I'm always busy perfecting my 5 stars
@doug3454
@doug3454 16 дней назад
Yeah, I have a C4 Sucrose. Started in 1.1 btw 😂
@DefinitelyNotAFerret
@DefinitelyNotAFerret 16 дней назад
After watching DBD videos, this is just the video I needed
@elinamanansi5508
@elinamanansi5508 16 дней назад
Overload klee with chevruse is actually pretty good especially if paired with beidou. She's not damage per screenshot character per say
@lunaredelvour2972
@lunaredelvour2972 15 дней назад
makes me so happy to see Chongyun and Thoma getting justice. Chongyun and Kaeya or Chongyun and Gaming for freeze/melt teams works so well and it makes me so happy to see him getting some love and appreciation
@tetsuclaw
@tetsuclaw 16 дней назад
Klee does not need cons to be good. She has a few teams she works well on but my favorite 2 is mono pyro (Klee, Bennett, Xiangling, Kazuha) and Klee/Furina vape (Klee, Nahida, Furina, Baizhu). These teams of mine are devastating on floor 12 abyss and I even got some vids of that posted too. I had already tried out Klee in the current patch 4.6 abyss and on second half she is a killer. Those beefy electro and cryo shields means nothing to her and the multiple waves of trash just fall over to her onslaught. My Klee is c0.
@teknowil
@teknowil 16 дней назад
when are you going to review your Mona? Ive dusted mine off , she does well in all first chambers this abyss
@kleefairy
@kleefairy 16 дней назад
The Klee placement was expected. Still sad though.
@Geneva1906
@Geneva1906 16 дней назад
If anything Kaeya and Rosaria should go up. Yes I know, cryo isen't meta etc. But Natlan is around the corner. I think in the nation of fire this element will be pog again. Well, we will see.
@arjunsajeevan417
@arjunsajeevan417 16 дней назад
Can you do any current best teams ... reviews
@catcatcat8
@catcatcat8 16 дней назад
Kirara is just fun to play. I have her hybrid shield/ sub dps (c6, deep wood, wolf fang) and enjoy taking her to co-op. She dishes out decent dps, shields and buffs others, and just adorable 🤷
@danny091283
@danny091283 16 дней назад
I use kirara all the time in my Keqing team at c0 and I really like here. And I think she is the best dendro for my team. Application is fine and shield is really strong. I heard Nahida dendro application could be to strong and I am missing the defence. Yaoyao is fine but doesn't give interruption resistance and Baizhu I don't have and I don't know how good his dendro application is
@augmenautus
@augmenautus 16 дней назад
Childe deserves to be in tier 1 for the simple reason that his team can wreck the triple Magu Kenki this abyss.
@doug3454
@doug3454 16 дней назад
I mean, I agree with T1 placement for Childe, but a lot of teams can werck triple Kenki easily. I actually played International on 2nd half more since it's great for all the shields.
@NatalyHaldey
@NatalyHaldey 16 дней назад
Agree
@jorgemiguelsafecarneironet9964
@jorgemiguelsafecarneironet9964 16 дней назад
As a Klee main i feel recognized😊, i can consistently do 36 stars in the abyss with her, just a shame people don't like her.
@maevethefox5912
@maevethefox5912 16 дней назад
Klee got super buffed being able to forward vape Furina, but I still find her way too obnoxious to play in a slot that has a ton of competition. Kirara has been a staple of my Abyss teams for ... well since she came out. Plenty of dendro for Aggravate, a super chunky shield, and shockingly good burst damage.
@user-lf3lf8bp2m
@user-lf3lf8bp2m 16 дней назад
Im so hyped for the pre Nathan tier List
@treeleven3316
@treeleven3316 16 дней назад
I think tier lists in general are hard to make because not everyone has c6 especially of newer characters and a lot of people have c6 of the older characters so you can’t really make 4* units c0. Characters like gaming / chevreuse / kaveh / Candace maybe people have a copy or 2, but c6 is pretty rare unless it’s on a particular popular banner. Hell I didn’t even have c6 sucrose till about a month ago.
@creative7601
@creative7601 16 дней назад
I was one of those people who gave the vote. It was fun and time went like nothing. Hope to take part in future too Jello
@k.chajel1770
@k.chajel1770 16 дней назад
Ayato imo aka just slot everywhere and then hold mouse button, it worked anytime
@cadenroland7586
@cadenroland7586 16 дней назад
I’ve wondered about what I can do with Thoma, because I have him at c6 and feel like I gotta use him but I don’t know what team comps he’s really good for besides Wanderer
@Bipedalduck
@Bipedalduck 14 дней назад
Al Haitham Burgeon Childe burgeon Arlecchino shield Hutao Double Hydro
@cadenroland7586
@cadenroland7586 14 дней назад
That’s what I was afraid of, I don’t have any of those three characters
@amandaslough125
@amandaslough125 13 дней назад
​@@cadenroland7586 any bloom set up but with him for burgeon. So you could do on field Kokomi. Or make him the on fielder if you have XQ/Yelan and dendro. His flame arc is also the same area coverage as Yae's normals. You can also use her skill to more easily reposition his arc on enemies. So a dendro team with the two of them, or overload with Chev. Or other electro units. Melting your own attacks with Chongyun. Any comp variant you'd prefer but with Thoma and Heizou swirling the flames. Just pick some character you might have fun with and find some viable teammates.
@reph274
@reph274 16 дней назад
Honestly I feel like the issue of this list are the tiers themselves rather than where characters are placed. One good example of a tier list is the most recent one from Prydwen's about HSR where there's actually tier 0.5 and 1.5; I believe Genshin should get the same treatment since most of the characters are generally good/decent overall. Ex : while I understand certain DPSes having limitation on their kit, seeing things like tier 3 Diluc or Eula feels just plain wrong, however their placement in the list compared to other characters does make some sense.
@amandaslough125
@amandaslough125 13 дней назад
I feel like we need divisions like in competitive games. Where each ranked level is then further broken down into smaller tier subdivisions.
@weebman9762
@weebman9762 10 дней назад
I had a specific niche with chongyun. His CD reduction allows for a insanely comfy sac sword XQ. I sometimes still swap out ZL for Chongyun if the enemy boss is not that aggressive in my 2 hydro Hu Tao team.
@m3hrn_
@m3hrn_ 16 дней назад
I cleared spiral abyss floor 12 for the first time (with 2 stars) :D
@Anonymous-wv6zb
@Anonymous-wv6zb 16 дней назад
The changes you made were probably the main ones I was looking at, ad personally, having both, i would value klee to be above lyney, and maybe over hu tao, even if this take it's controversial, I'm having better runs with my c0 kleerina team rather than my hu tao c1 homa teams... I would also put thoma higher in the tier 2 ranking, maybe also tier one... It's team has a great variety of elemental brakes, like, at the base, you have dendro, best for hydro, and great against electro, pyro, best against dendro and cryo, great against electro and hydro, best against pyro, great against dendro... Also, the last slot can literally be anyone, you can insert a fischl, a layla, a zhongli or Noelle for those enemies who necessitate geo element... Noelle should really be in tier 2, it's just inesplicabile for me to see her in tier 3 while xiao it's in tier 1, even if I really love xiao... She it's probably one of the most slept on character since release, everyone brought up her needing c6 to be good as a mean to put her low in the list, but she offers some incredible contributions while having the most simple and comfy play style... She has incredible aoe while offering single target dmg comparable to xiao and wanderer... She has the most flexible play style, being able to switch off field whenever she wants maintain her burst... She has one of the most f2p friendly team, composed by geo traveler, gorou and the only 5 star you would really need for her, furina... The only real downside it's it's efficiency against elemental shields... You would really consider me crazy for what I'm about to say, but I would consider c6 Candace as a tier 2 character... It's the hydro unit I have the best experience playing with arlecchino, other than other teams I've been experimenting with as my curiosity on why she was considered so bad... Lisa and mona are are underated for me a bit, I would consider them tier 2, both having their pros and cons, but you can work around them, lisa, being great in aggravate, and good in hyperbloom even if limited by her burst area, being also one of the best supports for dmg due to her a4, only needing lv70 for that mean and still performing great... Mona even doe her buff last for a small window of time, it's a great buff, and for some characters that have a really small window of dmg, like raiden, she can be comparable to furina dmg buff minus some of the personal dmg, which, if you know how her omens work, you could build into to geat some really good nuking potential, and also her c2 if you manage to group some pyro shields, you can burst into them with great ease, I sometimes find myself choosing her instead of furina for my raidens teams, getting comparable or even better times than with her... Going farst for others... I would have put razor a tier higher, gorou a tier higher, maybe even sara which dmg is really underrated, deyha a tier higher, also diona and layla, rosaria also a tier higher, geo traveler it's a bit slept one but for me, he's definitely t3, a really good asset for geo teams, sometime unreplaceable, collei a tier higher, maybe 2 in the tight scenarios, diluc a tier higher, kokomi a tier lower and raiden maybe a tier higher with also al haitham. Fischl should have been t0 for how her contribution to the team with little to no field time. I just noticed, why is cheveruse tier 1, I would even go as far as to say I value her to be even better than Bennett due to not applying pyro on the allies. And I would also put jean on tier 1, based on many factors, and the fact that even while being built (by me) like a toddler hit by a truck she has an incredible healing and surprisingly good anemo dmg...
@Arzus22
@Arzus22 15 дней назад
Put "honorable mention" at the end of the video and mention 20 more underrated characters for memes
@raycigar6356
@raycigar6356 16 дней назад
This abyss my burgeon C2 Klee slaps all enemies shields away like it was a paper blanket xD
@warprince3486
@warprince3486 15 дней назад
Diluc in T3 below Keqing and Cyno when his Xianyun teams deal like triple the damage of multiple DPSes in T2 and matches up to T1 DPSes. I don't even wanna complain at this point, because this is such a joke.
@tristianity8529
@tristianity8529 9 дней назад
They did my man dirty, plunge diluc is criminally underrated.
@Vickiraytive
@Vickiraytive 10 дней назад
Chongyun was my first 4 star pull besides Noelle. I currently have him in a mono geo team with geo trav, Noelle, and Gorou. Noelle is my DPS, i have noblese set on geo trav, millelith set on Gorou, and Exile set on Chongyun. Noelle is running Gladiator. It's been a fun team for me.
@foodyrulez
@foodyrulez 16 дней назад
I built my Chongyun as a Shatter dps, his main benefit is his Cryo infusion so you don't need anything since it's basically just a cooldown.
@lehuytran3628
@lehuytran3628 14 дней назад
Childe international still is pretty good in single target cause xiangling burst will hit 2 times per circle (most boss hit boxes are large if not you can dash close to the enemy clockwise right when xiangling tornado hit. Wanderer is decent with investment but at the baseline I think he is not underated.
@Absy-ashiqmessi10
@Absy-ashiqmessi10 16 дней назад
Can u do an updated guide on kokomi plz
@studiesinflux1304
@studiesinflux1304 15 дней назад
I caught the start of the stream, and it looked like it was going to be funny when Anemo and Geo MCs were put in the same tier. T3 is the most amusing to me with Dendro MC, Yanfei, Barbara, Yun Jin, and Diluc all lumped together.
@rockmsp_art
@rockmsp_art 16 дней назад
2:17 exactly my neuv team. I benched childe with sign weapon for a long time. after I got neuv. I use childe in a team without using him in on field just for NA talent +1.
@ambersdarkfox
@ambersdarkfox 16 дней назад
Honestly, the list of underrated characters is just a task too great for just one video. There are just so many characters that if they don't hit insane numbers or do something crazy they get booted to the bottom of tier lists. Let's take Dehya for an example and while it's not even a debate that she got done dirty on her kit but at the same time she does have a use defensively and she has a really fun playstyle. When I wasn't using Dehya I could tell a visible difference in my party survivability. The interruption resistance might not last as long as it should but it was enough for me to set up my supports without being knocked back. Then I actually had to start dodging things where with her I was just face rolling things going unga bunga. She might not be SS ranking but at the same time she isn't as useless as some people try to make her out to be. Genshin's community I have to say can be pretty toxic. Many players tend to form opinions based off of personal bias or follow someone else's and then act like you are a moron if you don't agree though. Back when I first started Genshin about three years ago Geo units like Noelle and Nigguang carried me to the end game. Noelle is a pretty solid unit and Ningguang is a really solid character in the early game. Especially, if you got lucky enough to have c6. This was even before the buff via resonance. People acted like I was a complete moron but these units carried me to the end game. For the longest of times Noelle was in my every party. I don't think people should blindly follow tier lists and other people's opinions. I been playing myself for around three years and can vouch there is plenty of room to use units you like if you build and support them properly. Even more so now because there is much more options than we used to have including a whole new element.
@user-fs9ut7td9n
@user-fs9ut7td9n 16 дней назад
I feel so sad cause I am a yoimiya main but accidentally got arlechino and she’s better then yoimiya in every way 😭😭
@Estrio21
@Estrio21 16 дней назад
I run Childe in a Cope Vape team with Arlecchino, Bennet and either sucrose, Lynette or my boy Albedo 😂. Is it good..... no 👎 Is it fun.... HELL YEA! It Is! 😎. Managed to 36 star abyss with this wacky team 😆.
@MauveButterfly
@MauveButterfly 16 дней назад
I run Electro Traveller in my main team, and it works out pretty well. Is this character considered to be bad because Raiden Shogun is just a better version of it or something?
@Cajun_Seasoning
@Cajun_Seasoning 16 дней назад
no he's bad cuz he's just bad compared to any electro character
@reactiondavant-garde3391
@reactiondavant-garde3391 16 дней назад
Mostly because he doesn't have a team where he can shine. He need high amount energy, but have consideribley worse damage compered to toher characters with high energy demands, but because you need a lot of ER you can't even maximise a hyperbloom team etc. I saw some interesting team comp where you use him as a energy generator, but generally he is a worse option.
@joe_simon
@joe_simon 16 дней назад
​@@reactiondavant-garde3391That's the funny thing. EMC is an amazing battery. But without another good electro battery (Usually Fischl or maybe Raiden) EMC has huge Energy issues. Exception is if EMC uses the own energy talsiman but if happens why use EMC? And even with that it's not really better than teams that need more ER but you afd Characters that deal damage
@reactiondavant-garde3391
@reactiondavant-garde3391 16 дней назад
@@joe_simon You can get aways with building him full ER because he have bad damage anyway, the question is, where you would use him then? What I saw is useing him with Noelle or such funny things, but I would stay argue you can get enough paticuled for Noelle anyway with Gorou alone because you can swap out and back so he is in this strange limbo where he only can be used well in teams where your energy already good with Fischl and Raiden or in teams where you have to sacrofice everything to ER so he became purley an energy generator and nothing else.
@joe_simon
@joe_simon 16 дней назад
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 My example is 120 ER Yelan + Xingqiu. EM allowed them to go full damage and they didn't really need any ER. It's funny but as said it's not really worth it.
@stupindonoormaalo5255
@stupindonoormaalo5255 16 дней назад
IN MY PERSONAL OPINION dori is also underrated shes an all rounder off field healer/applicator. Her being a claymore user can be a positive as her summon can apply her opponents while staggered.( A window ) ( Look at iito and hes bull ). But her summon are complex little. ( A little ) ( Like every character in this game really as each has hes own strengh and weaknesses) No character can be another one 100%. She us like a second neolle. ( Almost ) Both are solid and underrated as hell.
@kingdawidh
@kingdawidh 10 дней назад
Stupid Idea, Xinyan with the new Burgin set and EM, to trigger burgin? I got her C6 but not really using her, got Eula, so, is it possible? Test maybe?
@joe_simon
@joe_simon 10 дней назад
It's bad Xinyans shield is the thing that does the Pyro hits This shield scales with Def This shield is not very strong even if build with max Def. Burgeon does damage to your shield A Full EM Xinyan shield is as thin as papaer and a single Burgeon proc will destroy it And without a shield no Pyro hits Result: No Burgeons anymore
@JoakimVesterlund
@JoakimVesterlund 16 дней назад
Thx for making 2 hours into 13.37. Pro!
@gamesOSer
@gamesOSer 16 дней назад
I would say most underrated is mika , I remind you that we are talking about c6 characters, mika c4 good healler for furina team, c6 give huge buff , noblesse wearer , potentially clorinde buffer in furina team, (clorinde/ furina / mika / +1 )
@Yanaro-pi8pt
@Yanaro-pi8pt 13 дней назад
Charlotte is pretty much better in every team, especially with hit lag in the game, causing atk speed buff to barely functional on melee characters
@FliponYT
@FliponYT 16 дней назад
5. Fischl 4. Fischl 3. Fischl 2. Fischl 1. Fischl
@eternal_duality
@eternal_duality 16 дней назад
Honorable mentions: Fischl, Fischl, Fischl. I disagree with this comment before you start calling me a glazer.. just playing along with the all Fischl thing
@Jaxv3r
@Jaxv3r 16 дней назад
​@@eternal_dualityHonorable mention Xiangling
@SCP--mv6eb
@SCP--mv6eb 16 дней назад
Should be on a top 5 most OVERRATED characters.
@polychromaa
@polychromaa 16 дней назад
Top fischl glazer. She’s not T0
@eggday9079
@eggday9079 16 дней назад
You forgot to mention Fischl!
@judearentz8348
@judearentz8348 15 дней назад
is alhaitham with furina+baizhu good?
@fabiochiodi8027
@fabiochiodi8027 16 дней назад
"It's easy to have C4 Xiangling" I found 1 Xiangling, (finally C1), 4 Lynette and 7 Freminet...
@mythicamagic
@mythicamagic 16 дней назад
Was there at the time - I think chat got caught up in being like - 'you cant put X character there! Y character is there and they dont compare!' instead of focusing on each individuals power, it became about comparison. Also its impossible to know but I think a lottt of people voted for characters they dont own/haven't used, so that skewed results (referring to Klee here)
@riotrio3247
@riotrio3247 16 дней назад
One question that I have is will you make a top 5 overrated characters video as well? Anyway, I don't believe that Childe and Ayato should be a tier apart (found it as the battle of power vs flexibility), which was why I voted t2 for him. Some placements were influenced by kokomi and xiao being in t2 in the beginning(which was why I believe thoma and klee were in t3), but I still voted both of them for t2 myself. I completely agree with kirara in t2, but wanderer should not be in a tier above Wriothesley or Ganyu, which was why he was an easy t2 for me. Chongyun I thought was t3, but since Ningguang was in t4 (I HEAVILY disagreed with it), I was fine with his placement in the end. With all this being said, I would've make marginal changes to the tier list ( in t2-t5 ), so in total I think the community did pretty good.
@givemeaworkingname
@givemeaworkingname 16 дней назад
My understanding is that he will. I've only played for about a year and don't have many of these characters, so I voted on only some. Regarding Childe and Ayato: I also thought he meant team flexibility during the stream, but it turns out that he meant comprehensive enemy coverage. International can deal with single target and AoE and also meets most elemental checks. In your opinion, which teams prefer Ayato over Childe? Maybe I'm having trouble with Ningguang because she's C0, but I find her really awkward to play. Her optimal combos have walk-cancels. Screen placement is awkward because you want to hit them, but you don't want them to break, and you also want to walk through it for the buff. Do you have any tips?
@riotrio3247
@riotrio3247 16 дней назад
@@givemeaworkingname it's more so outside of international (which ayato isn't so far behind in), ayato would be better in every team except the funny yet viable neuvillette team. So that's why I said power vs flexibility because ayato is better in mostly every other archetype besides international, yet replace ayato with childe in such a team is still a great team, just not as all powerful as childe, hence why I said power vs flexibility, which turns to a person's preference on who's better, hence I believe same tier. The only reason ayato is deemed as a lower tier than childe nowadays (by most people) is most likely due to being power crept by neuvillette in every team that ayato is good in, but I deem neuvillette's powercreep to affect all hydro onfielders, so ayato relevance to childe never changed for me. Ningguang isn't my forte either, as I'm more so trying to become a noelle main, plus I only have ningguang c3, however, I always believe ningguang can dish out serious damage, like she deletes everything with the correct jade management at high investment. I had her on the same tier as noelle before (pre furina), and now I have her a tier below itto (at least) due to ningguang's synergy with chiori as well, which would be t3 (I also believe Noelle should be t2 but oh well, it's fine ig).
@lumberboi8592
@lumberboi8592 16 дней назад
@riotrio3247 this is a personal thing for me as I've been playing childe for a long time now (his first rerun), but riptide is so satisfying against multiple enemies that I just don't get the same feeling when using ayato. Also the nuke at the start of the rotation is nice, ayato 100% is more flexible, but my battle maniac will always be #1 imo.
@givemeaworkingname
@givemeaworkingname 16 дней назад
@@lumberboi8592 thanks for your thoughtful reply
@riotrio3247
@riotrio3247 16 дней назад
@@lumberboi8592 oh if it's on personal preference, ayato is t4-t5 for me. i despise his playstyle a lot, and feel comfortable with childe (at least when I trialed him, i don't personally have either character, just speaking on trial experience), but he feels a bit less fun than keqing for me (granted she's like top 3 fun for me). But if i remove my bias and look at everything objectively, I'd still put ayato and childe on the same tier. Arlecchino has a similar affect on me as ayato, feels bad to play in practice/trial (trust me, it is not a damage thing) weirdly enough despite gameplay looking so cool on video. This is the reason why I think it's a stupid take to say every character plays the same.
@ChiyoTachi
@ChiyoTachi 16 дней назад
Kirara by far higher than YaoYao and has more slots than Layla, majority of the streamers are just ignorant. They pick and choose, selective excuses on when the 4* should count c6 and when it doesn't, so lame. C6 Kirara gives 12% to all elemental dmg in no condition, while c4 gives application regardless of range every 3sec, she can even spec into hybrid damage as well and her shield can be refreshed if it's broken early. Meanwhile c6 dori should be just right behind noelle, aside from personal dmg Electro is more flexible element and Dori does not even need others to battery her, If one counts c6 then Dori should be C6, the community needs to be educated seriously.
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