Was literally about to write the same thing, there's no information in 4 repeating or the 4 3 2 1 sequence so the only information you get is HCKA which probably means hack
Kinda off topic, but I have yet to hear any youtuber talk about the small, silver rolling door on the ground on dam in the satellite building. My dad told a friend and I that it opened up and guards came out while he was playing, but I still call BS to this day🤦
The RDP unit of the N64 is the "Reality Display Processor". It's pretty much a discrete GPU that handles frame buffering, depth testing, and rasterising to take those tasks off the CPU. That generation of consoles were largely the earliest ones to feature hardware acceleration for 3D graphics.
I would guess a lot of the weirdness with Silo in particular is because it was a survivor of the rail shooter beta footage that exists out there. Silo was clearly one of the earliest levels that was finished enough to have a demo to show to the press, so it's not a surprise there's a lot leftover from the game's rail shooter life. Those missiles firing off would've been a helluva setpiece to rival the most badass Time Crisis moments for sure.
It does make me wish every game had a feature similar to Valve's developer commentary mode, when you walk through the game in real time and learn about hidden dev intentions. That'd be cool if we could retroactively implement that in every old game. (as a sidenote I wish so called remasters of old games would put effort into features like that instead of ruining art styles or the stability of the game) I guess that's what video developer commentaries are made for though.
@@CamrosMedia Sometimes they don't remember, because it was something they made on a rainy afternoon 20 years ago and forgot about. People wonder about it for years but even the person who made it doesn't know!
Regarding the blast doors that open in the roof when the player becomes unarmed, I'm 99% sure I read somewhere that this was added by the Devs so they could record some cool footage of the blast doors opening with the missiles clearly visible in the foreground. And that they forgot to remove this function!
A lot of the unused properties of Silo: the vents, the rocket launch, the ability to open and close the launch door, remind me of the end of Aztec. I wonder if they decided the two levels were becoming too similar and stopped developing those features in Silo, or whilst making Silo, became inspired to create Aztec. In regards to Ourumov's briefcase, they might have added it before realising that the player would have to kill Ourumov to obtain it, but Ourumov can't die in Silo because he is needed in Train, and by that point it was just easier to leave the briefcase and key in than go back and remove them.
Is it possible that the original objective was not to open the ceiling doors but to close them before launching so the silo exploded without the c4? I wished we knew!
@@mathprodigy If it's a Weapon of mass Destruction/ Nuke wouldn't it defeat the purpose of disarming it if it's c4 blown up or launched like the other guy said? Or I guess not because it has to have a hard impact from the high altitude landing on it's target to cause damage.
I dont know why your videos interest me so much, I'm not typically into speed running lore...I've never ran goldeneye only played it casually. But your videos keep me engaged. Keep it up. Would love to hear you talk more about TWINE 64 again. I know it's a bit niche though
I’m 34 and just now am beginning to Speedrun. I chose OOT as my game but Goose you’re a huge reason for me getting into the scene. Love your vids thank you.
Good on you! I wanted to get into speed running but the more I learned about the frame perfect button presses and other insanely difficult strategies involved I became too intimidated. Hahahahaha I do shoot for personal bests so I guess I’m kind of a speed runner but in no way am I even close to being a threat to anyone on the rankings. Best of luck to you.
@@mathprodigy you definitely got me beat on dam. I can get a 1:04 on cradle 00-agent using the wall technique to force Trevelyan to blow himself up. I believe the current world record is still :32. Hahaha
@@jameswilson591 Not every record is as tightly optimized, these N64 classics are insane but if you like any more current games it could be worth looking into their speedrunning community. For some just doing a deathless run in one sitting with otherwise normal gameplay can get you on the board, then each personal record you set can inch you closer and closer to that imaginary trophy. It's a pretty fun hobby as long you don't take it too seriously.
I have a theory based on nothing that silo was one of the first, if not the first level that they made. It seems like it would fit the on rails style they were originally going for. Guards hiding behind boxes, stuff like that, classic arcade style level. Maybe these weird assets were from when it was still an on rails shooter. Also does anyone else remember ever seeing a video, or image, or something of Silo having like a mini boss, in like a different room? The model of the guy was that black suited model (like the ones in Cradle) and had the face model of that character with the dark eyes. Not Duncan Botwood but the other one with dark eyes.
You're probably right about that, yeah. It was also a level that was available for demos early on, so it would make sense that it was finished earlier than most. And I remember seeing a custom level like that, but nothing officially.
7:07 it's been since the early 2000s since I've seen someone mention this and I even forgot about it. 10:03 was something you wouldn't notice unless you really were paying attention with the level loading. A lot of interesting facts in this one!
I've been playing this game since the 90s, maybe I read or seen it somewhere but I totally forgot about the rocket bay opening when switching to unarmed... weirdest thing ever. Always top quality vids man much appreciated 🙌
Another strange thing: the timeline in Silo does not make sense. It says that it happen 2 years before the main story and that it takes place in Soviet Kirghizstan. The main story is set in 1995, the year of the movie, however, that would put Silo in 1993, 2 years after the USSR ceased to exist. Therefore, it should've been set at least 4 years before the main story.
If you look in the 'mission background' it states that "Deep intelligence reports suggest that this operation may well be outside the control of the former soviet powers in the region" which suggests the silo was abandoned after the dissolution of the USSR and the Janus group (Trev/Ouromov) took it over.
RDP: Reality Display Processor. The RCP is split into two parts, the RSP (Reality Signal Processor) and RDP; the RSP does all the vertex calculations, then the RDP does the texturing, blending, filtering, etc. to actually generate the display.
This video intrigued me so much that I just had to go dig out the old N64 and see some of these things myself. Just like you, I went to silo and turned on my invisibility cheat (which took me a few tries to unlock I must admit). I was so interested in Ourumov’s briefcase so naturally that’s the very first thing I wanted to check out. I ran straight to the end of the level where I could find him. Just like you demonstrated, I was able to shoot the briefcase and sure enough he would just flinch and nothing else. But then I noticed something that you didn’t mention (maybe you noticed it and thought it was just TOO strange and unusual for this video)…. When Ourumov’s briefcase is shot, IF YOU ARE STANDING VERY CLOSE TO HIM, you can hear a very very feint and QUIET and DEEP voice sound from him. One that’s different than the usual sound of a guard taking damage for example. It sounds like he’s letting out a SIGH??? The sigh (to me) sounds as if he’s upset about something? Perhaps this was part of a scrapped mission by the developers… who really knows. (Hopefully I’m recalling this 100% accurately, I tested all of this 5 days ago) Anyways, sorry if you were choosing to keep this a secret for another video. It’s honestly just so strange and unusual so you’ll definitely want to check it out for yourself if you missed it. I mean.. I wouldn’t believe it myself if I was the one who missed it... If you do make the video, perhaps you could use one of these titles for it “SILO’S LOW SIGH” or “SIGH LOW on SILO” At the end of the day maybe my Goldeneye cartridge was just struck by a stray gamma ray and this was programmed in randomly. Hard to tell. A lot of crazy stuff happened that day, it was April 1st after all.
I love your videos! Thank you for all your effort. I recently rediscovered Goldeneye on the Switch and Perfect Dark on Xbox and have enjoyed trying to beat them both on the hardest difficulties. I did not know about any of these mysteries! I’d love to see more Perfect Dark videos. Are there any mysteries in Area 51? 😂
Once again, after two decades of playing the game and I still learn new things. Some I already knew such as the silo roof and new things such as loading jungle before B1 to get ghost guards
Wonder if the creators of the game see these video`s and laugh their asses of. With reactions like "check out these dudes freaking out over goldeneye". Love your video`s and enthousiasm. Long live the nostalgia.
The tall vent in the rocket silo reminds me of a part in the Moonraker book where Bond is trapped in a silo and hides at the top of a vent shaft to avoid being hurt to a crisp when the rocket launches. I wonder if that might have been a potential subplot.
I had messed around a lot on that stage but I don't think I've ever noticed the silo doors opening. I always figured that the hardware cards were for the GoldenEye. I didn't think it was an Easter Egg for the names of the Nintendo 64 hardware components. Technically. If there's a GoldenEye on that level. That would mean that there was a third one were as in the film it was indicated there were two? I can't remember if destroying it after taking the photo fails the objective though. But the silo does explode it on higher difficulties. I imagine the lowest difficulty is to help players learn the level. I'd like more videos like this. I find them fascinating.
I doubt it's true, but a silly theory that I just thought of: Perhaps an early concept for the Silo mission was to infiltrate the Silo, obtain the briefcase and key, use the key to open the roof and then use the briefcase to reprogram and launch the missile, and finally escape before the missile launched, possibly with the ultimate idea being to use the missile to destroy their own silo here. And then during development, the objectives were reworked into the final version of Silo, with those earlier ideas being recycled into Aztec instead. Theory aside, the main thing that sticks out to me is that it's quite similar to Aztec though, with the opening roof paralleling the exhaust bay and the implication that the missile was meant to launch at some point. I have to wonder if there is some connection there at least.
Ourumov's briefcase was the only mystery I remember about Goldeneye64 since I was a child. What happens if you shoot the Dostovei in his other hand, does he recoil like the guards? (here I am, talking about Dostoveis in the hands of enemies again 😂🤣)
dude silo is such a good demo for the game in general. I remember playing it on a demo console before buying the game 🥺 I was blown away that the mission was failed if the scientists got unalived
What I like about these commentary videos is the funny ingenious way to bypass certain RU-vid filters by "passing away" enemies, such a great way to unalive our foes, from now on when I play I will pass away all my enemies. 😏😈
I'll bet if you can score an interview with one of the old devs from Rare they could tell you what they had originally planned for this stage in GoldenEye.
At 13:10, "RDP" probably stands for "Reality Display Processor." It's another part of the N64's graphics chip. I can't link the source bc RU-vid thinks it's spam, google "nintendo 64 architecture" and it's the top result.
I discovered something recently that I never knew about Aztec. I knew about the wall climb technique in the pit at the beginning of the level so I had an idea. After clearing out all the enemies, I wanted to run back into the pit and lure Jaws back to that wall so I could do the wall climb technique and shoot him from above. To my surprise, not only can Jaws shoot you through that wall from the bottom of the pit, but he can do the wall climb as well and that totally destroyed my idea. Hahahahaha I had hopes that it would work but it’s still pretty awesome learning something new after 25 years.
@@mathprodigy because it is a technique that exploits a game glitch. If you walk up to that wall, look straight up while pushing yourself into it and rapidly switch weapons you can warp straight up to the top of it.
@@jameswilson591 No glitch, I remember just being able to go up the wall by walking into it. Thought it was funny as a kid. It's getting back into the Facility vent that requires strafing left while aiming/spinning right on the toilet.
@@tetravega567 I don’t know what wall you’re talking about but the one I’m talking about you cannot just walk up it. It’s literally called the “goldeneye Aztec wall climb glitch”. Look it up
I wonder if the silo roof is as simple as the roof assuming it's an (unfinished) cutscene if it's on screen with no weapon.. just a weird quirk that wasn't bothered to be taken care of.. because who'd bother to go unarmed looking at the ceiling?
Some other guy left a comment on this vid and said it was a developer feature for capturing cool footage of the doors opening with the missile in the foreground, and they forgot to remove it. In that light it makes perfect sense haha
I have an explanation for the opening roof in silo. in early stage of development the game was a "shooter on rails" I have a VHS of the early stage and in that part si had like a lift where you go up into the top of that silo
Objective f) Launch Missile Obtain Ourumow's briefcase (launch codes) -> reprogram missile (use one of the computers next to elevator) -> open roof (Ourumow's keycard) -> leave Beta test: "... no, it takes too long. I cannot finish DLTK mode any more" :(
Don’t forget about the railing that is missing where the elevator was going to be. Pretty sure there is beta footage of Bond riding it. (Also, someone else mentioned the guard that is standing on the lone catwalk.) So many weird things in this level.
I wonder where that guard ends up if you shoot him to get his attention. The door he’s next to goes nowhere but if you’re far away enough from an enemy they can clip through doors in pursuit of Bond
UPDATE: I tried getting the guard to notice me by shooting next to him, no response. I shot his rifle, he flinched but otherwise didn’t move. Evidently the AI knows he cannot go anywhere
Great video, this is probably my favourite level to replay. Another quirk of the briefcase is that it makes the “click” of picking up a weapon as opposed to the usual beep of a gadget/item
When I was younger I tried to kill Bond in some weird places to try and get a bette view of some things. The ladder on this stage, the other side of the vent on Facility and the bottom of cradle were the ones I was obsessed with lol. Great video as usual!
Wonder if the briefcase used to be in multiplayer as a capture the flag item type deal, and the vent looks like it used to be the original starting position for the beta or something then you'd go up the ladder. That's just my guess though. Reminds me of when I was a kid I wondered why the balcony doors on frigate were locked and couldn't be opened near the control room (not the one downstairs)
All they did was replace the blood splatter effect with the spark effect. Nintendo asked them to tone it down last minute, and the screenshot had already been taken at that point for the box art.
The behavior of Ouromov with his briefcase strikes me as weird in LTK too. Ouromov normally drops the briefcase and runs as soon as he sees you. I assume this is because it’s tied to his health and he starts with zero health in LTK, but you don’t even have to shoot him once… I mean, it’s not like all the guards see you and just die in LTK, they have to be shot, even if shot in the gun. Not so with Ouromov and his briefcase.
6:23 I just tried this on 1964 emulator not too long ago and even though I couldn't open the ceiling, I discovered that both of those ceilings are transparent. You can shoot bullets, rockets, grenades etc and they go through the ceiling as if nothing is there. I threw a bunch of throwing knives to the point where the audio started to glitch out and decided to shoot rockets as well. This ended up crashing the game.
There's also a catwalk in one of the silos with a guard standing on it, but you can't actually get to it because the door goes nowhere. Also the RDP is the Reality Display Processor, it's a part of what you might consider the N64's GPU.
@@GamerFolklore The inaccessible catwalk was more of a mystery for me as a kid than anything else on this list and I spent a lot of time studying the map in a walkthrough booklet trying to figure out where it was in relation to the higher levels. YES...do a video! :)
Chessboard Position hypothesis. For the 4 rooms. 4-A1 4-H4 4-C3 4-K2 (unfortunately this isn't a move) They appear to be in the format of a chessboard position, using the standard algebraic notation for identifying specific squares on a chessboard. In this notation, the numbers 1-8 represent the rows of the board, while the letters A-H represent the columns. For example, "4-A1" would represent the square on the first row and first column of the board (the bottom left corner from White's perspective), while "4-H4" would represent the square on the fourth row and eighth column of the board (the top right corner from White's perspective). Therefore, it seems likely that these strings are related to the game of chess.
Another interesting tidbit about the Silo mission is that the room where you can open the bay door, there is a balcony and guard that you cannot get too through normal means. I wonder if there are game genie codes that allow you to explore that area more.
My gosh… I’ve always wondered about these details in Silo. As a kid I discovered the silo doors by my self. Ans wondered about that ladder and vent. Part of me recalls even getting down to the bottom of the silo. But my mind is definitely foggy. Maybe I used a GameShark. I have always had a huge fascination with the different areas in Goldeneye and Perfect Dark that were inaccessible but had more beyond the barriers. These games are fascinating ❤
My memory may be messing with me but I'm sure you could open a panel on one of the missiles with the briefcase or key equipped. I read it in the Official Nintendo Magazine (UK) at the time and am sure I tried it and it worked.
Does the sky physically change to mirror another level, or just in the code? You've talked about it at length over the years, but every time you show footage I only see the default blue sky in the missile room.
I always assumed Ouromov's briefcase held an early Goldeneye key or prototype James could choose to take as a 2nd/alt objective for Mi6/Q to study. IIRC it was in a briefcase in the movie.
@@Punttipate62 wait you're a PC player, there should be a way for you to play the canceled Xbox 360 remake from over a decade ago, it's the one all Goldeneye players wanted and looks incredible. Just RU-vid a video of how to do it, I haven't done it yet, but hopefully it isn't anything more than downloading the file and then patching it or something.
Great vid as always man. IDK i feel like, the n64 , it just loses too many frames. It just doesn't have the technology. Karl and Calle had high 52's. Asking for the perfect movement and sufficient boosts seems even less improbable than the guy who had a 14 leg parlay the other day on 14 different guys making a touchdown in the NFL, winning, and making $400,000+ off a $5 bet. I wish i could see it one day though.
'Pass Away'.. is that really the world we live in now that you can't even say 'the word' of what you're actually doing to a fake, non existent, non living NPC.
the vent/shaft in the beginning of silo. my wild guess is that at one time in dev maybe on all level or just some. the intro sequence would not only be a few shot of the level but also how bond enters them. like Silo would switch between the random level shots we see in game today and a seen of bond entering the level by lowering himself down the shaft/vent by rope like how HECU does in HL1.
Silo is so much fun, thanks for the video! Is it possible to have a plastique not attach to a surface and fail the mission? I swear I've seen it done, but I recently tried to do it, and couldn't.
I remember using the key/briefcase to open and close the silo door… I’m sure you had to select it and press Z like a gadget (rather than A or B as mentioned in this vid)… it was a long time ago though!
