I disagree that it is marketed as ONLY an off road vehicle. Anyone that owns a Subaru KNOWS that they are Not crawlers. We buy them for Winter driving and I honestly do not know where you get the bad milage idea. Compaired to WHAT? You not once compaired it to ANY compairable vehicle. Most new vehicles have nanny devices all over them. If you want a true off road 4 wheel drive vehicle, you dont buy a Subaru. You buy a Jeep, or a truck, or ANYTHING ELSE . If you want a really safe car to haul your family to Grandmothers house in a snowstorm with a foot and a half of snow THATS why you buy a Subaru. So shame on the advertizers touting the Subaru as an off road wonder. Where the hell they got that idea is beyond me. I do know my wife LOVES hers. It gets her to work and back. It gets me to deer camp on back roads covered with snow. It is NOT a rock crawler. As I said. Any subaru owner can TELL you this. NO ONE buys them for crawling...no one.
My last 2 cars were Subaru WRX 2003 and Outback 2005. Ideal "cars". You have lots of comfort, traction and safety features without having to drive a tank. If you want to seriously offroad, get a 4Runner or LandCruiser to be able to selectively lock any/all differentials and have a low range for crawling. The downside, of course, if that any curve taken above 6 mph will make you feel about ready to tip over.
You would be surprised at how solid the Forester and Outback are. They both have high clearance for a reason. I have had an Outback for 10 years and have never gotten stuck or had a problem in the snow. The interior is all quality materials, so even at 12 years old look new. Reliability is above average but not Toyota bulletproof. The Outback will go through half shaft boots, leaking oil pressure sensors and if you get an engine light on have fun finding the issue.
don684 - exactly what I'd expect if I get an Outback. A few irritating Subaru maintenance issues yet overall very solid hardware - highly functional AWD, high ground clearance AND you get low centre of gravity with the basic design. Safety over all else. Now I wasn't expecting amazing fuel economy but that might be an issue for a car owner that has owned a few faultless Accords. It's just a matter of priorities.
Maybe next time you'll by a "4 WHEEL DRIVE" and leave us "AWD" drivers to enjoy our Subi's. I driven on many outback roads in central Australia and if you drive sensibly, it's a joy to drive.
Is there anyway to switch them off??? I have an Outback from 2008 2.5 liters and I am thinking to buy a 2019 model 3.6 liters...but I don't wanna hear all those beeeppppsss!
@@lennyvalentinoSchiaretti_lvs You can turn most off, and you can also permanently control the volume on them through the driver info center in the gauge cluster. The reversing ones are actually pretty good, unless your backing against tall grass or a hill. And really, if you're driving with music up, that easily drowns out most of them. I don't mind the visual warnings, and the lane departure warnings are honestly the biggest gripe most have. When you have a narrow two lane road where you're usually riding the line unless passing someone, it gets frustrating, and I turn off the LDW. Unfortunately, most things turn back on when you restart the car.
I have a 2020 Subaru Outback. It only beeps if I have switched to another lane without signaling. The 2020 Toyota Prius beeps a lot more than my Subaru
Hate is probably too strong a word. The "beeping" seems to be the direction all cars are taking. The Outback is more like a Swiss Army Knife in my humble opinion. Good or great at most things, but not all. I'm not sure any other vehicle comes close to what an Outback can do for the price.
Exactly, it can't offer that flexibility AND have perfect fuel economy AND truck like capability. The intentionally chosen compromises and priorities of the Outback aren't really a failing a they are a triumph. It's a true crossover. Now they just need a little more oomph out of the flat four and it's a total winner.
Beeping and bells is symptomatic of our society's "Smartest guy in the room" syndrome today. All these young corporate managers today feel they know better than the average person and therefore must warn us all of any safety item that could possibly affect us in any way. I mean for sure.....what a blessing. We certainly are not smart enough ourselves to handle this . Gimme a break. The company I just retired from actually posts signs on the stairs to "Hold the handrails" !! Are you kidding me ???? Now I am not smart enough to walk down some stairs safely ????
I agree about the beeping. I drive a 2017 2.5 Limited. It's always beeping, especially the lane departure (sometimes it reads cracks or road repairs as lines). But it has saved my ass a couple of times, so I tolerate it.
Can it be disconnected? While finding a outback for my wife we drove 4-5 at different dealerships. We didn’t make it a mile in the one with lane deviation before turning around. Our first and last experience with that annoyance.
@@oddities-whatnot I think he was referring to the Miley Cyrus song 7 things I hate about you. I may be wrong but u fortunately that is what I first thought. The curse of living with an 11 yo granddaughter.
As a 2016 Outback 3.6R owner, my 5 biggest gripes about the car are: 1. The undersized 490CCA Group 25 battery 2. Left front tire 3. Right front tire 4. Left rear tire 5. Right rear tire First one fixed with an 840CCA Group 24 AGM battery (which fits perfectly in the battery tray. Next 4 fixed with Goodyear Eagle Enforcers.
Battery is one of the first things I change in every Subaru I've had too! I've previously installed larger batteries normally found in 6-cylinder vehicles (usually requires an upgrade of the battery terminals to suit in H4 models) and the end result is much faster crank, longer lasting battery for things like parking dashcam when the car is off, etc.
I've never had an issue with my 2019 outback battery. My daughter actually just killed it for the first time by leaving all the interior lights on in the car for two days. Most of my outbacks lights are LED but the trunk and door lights aren't. It's the original OEM battery and it's the first issue I've had with it, but I do think I'm one of the very lucky ones.
I purchased a new Outback in 2017. It had RAB and many other electrical problems from the start. I had it in the shop 10 times for repair. Went a total of 42 days without my car. It was a Lemon. Had to have it towed into the dealer no less than four times. Even the district service manager told me to contact Subaru Customer service to get a full refund, as they could not figure out what is wrong with the car. After months of being given the run around, Subaru customer service did not refund my money as they should have. I traded my car in, still under warranty, still not fixed. I lost over $14,000 because Subaru does not stand behind their cars. Toyota is looking better all the time.
My 2017 2.5l limited Outback makes 30-32 mpg driving on the highway with more or less constant speed. This is an excellent MPG for fully loaded large and heavy AWD vehicle! If you push any car to the top of its limit it would be nonsense to discuss about MPG.
Mine too. 2016 Outback premium with the 2.5L. No complaints at all on the gas mileage. The annoying feeling CVT transmission and the god awful sounding factory stereo on the other hand...
This makes me glad that I selected of 2010 Subaru outback. Has a lot less bells and whistles, a lot if you were annoying noises and it doesn’t have that distracting giant TV screen in the middle of the dashboard. If I had a newer car with one of those screens I would put a Velcro curtain over it so that I only needed to lift the curtain occasionally when I need to see the screen. On the highway I’ve had near head on collisions of people who are focused on the center of their dashboard and all of the GPS mapping and other things they are trying to adjust while going 70 miles an hour in a 55 mph zone and paying no attention to the actual road in front of them
My 2 complains with our 2018 outback is the radio volume is unresponsive when you start the car for about 15 seconds, it is booting up. If the last person had the volume turned up, you cant lower it for 15 seconds. In certain situation it will boot up playing a podcast even though it was turned off with the radio on. On a safety complaint you can accidentally bump the paddle shift when in drive and it will down shift, on vacation doing 75, and down shifting was dangerous, if the roads were slippery could have lost control. My wife didn't know how to turn it off she hit it a second time, red line rpms...
My top complaints. 2017 3.6. 5 breakdowns (failure to start...all battery related) in 4 years required tow to dealer. Not a fan of the CVT 2 visits to dealer for AC failure. Seats become uncomfortable after 3~4 hours driving. Yep, all those beeps. Wish you could buy one withojt that expensive, useless moon roof. AND FINALLY... With headlights in AUTO, dash annunciator indicates headlights on during daytime rain but only running lights are on. Illegal and unsafe in Florida
Am a 2016 Outback owner.... overall a good experience. I think Outback owners are niche car buyers, good vehicle for handling in winter, which is big for Canada, good size for road trips, and taking on dirt road for kayaking. If I wanted an off-roader, would have bought a Wrangler. Outback is a weird station-wagon, SUV thing. It is the perfect height to get in and out of. Only issue was battery did not last long (common complaint on cargurus Outback forum), and decided not to replace with OEM. The sunroof seal, when hit by car wash jet a right angle, dripped water. And my gas flap mechanism needed replacing. When my windshield took a crack from rock on highway, I had to pay $$ to ensure the Eye-Sight camera was re-calibrated after the windshield was replaced.
A settlement has been reached in the class action lawsuit against car manufacturer Subaru that alleged that the windshields of certain vehicles were prone to cracking. Under the terms of the settlement agreement, Subaru will extend the warranty of the covered vehicles to eight years with unlimited miles and will cover expenses for the replacement of one free windshield including for car owners who have already replaced the original windshield due to cracking if the repair was done by an authorized retailer or third party.
The one thing, if I had to name one, that i Hate about the Outback is when the check engine light lights the cruse control does not work but just flashes it's light.
Good lord. I know this car is marketed for off road but who takes a new car on terrain like that??? Seems like you’re just asking for trouble and expensively major repairs. I bought this car because I live in Vermont and get a ton of snow. Period. Also, I’m about to teach my 15 year old how to drive and love all the safety features. The more beeps...the better! The tires you have on that car could NEVER give you decent gas mileage.
I love the safety of the car. Even said so in the video. My complaint with the beeping is it becomes a "boy who cried would"scenario where I end up tuning it out because it beeps so often.
@@a.sanford8731 I wouldnt say it's better. maybe different. daily use is probably a plus. kool factor goes to the jeep. Jeep can go through high water better than any subaru
@@BuildMobiIe I have a 2015 outback with over 130,000km. I love it too - beautiful vehicle, fun to drive. Maybe Juljasmah is referring to the Subaru boxer motor's long history of head and crankcase gasket leaks and gasket blowouts (usually fatal for the engine). Or maybe the more recent issues with Forester piston ring failures. In the 80's my roommate's subaru imprezza's head/crankcase gaskets were a mess, leaking oil profusely and threatening to blow. It was too much / too costly to repair. My brother-in-law's 2012 Forester's defective piston rings damaged the bottom end, and he got rid of it. When I got my own outback, I already knew of the gasket issues and traced it to many factors - mainly increasing cylinder bore diameter (to get more displacement) without recasting/redesigning a larger bottom end case with more cylinder studs. (On RU-vid, you can see most of the blown gasket damage occurring where there is no stud support and where the gasket (no stud support extending from 1 o'clock to 5 o'clock of the gasket perimeter). (I guess marketing and financial execs' pressure won over engineers' protests.) Also the vertical gasket of relatively thin aluminum engine case is not stable and supported enough to resist oil leaks over time. I knew all this before purchasing my 2015 Outback (with CVT transmission). While I have been watchful of all of this, I can say I still admire the overall engineering - especially of the AWD and center of balance (= great handling) and efficiency. 130,000km and knock on wood, we are still going with no major issues...
We don’t do much off-roading, and, if anything, I was surprised and impressed on how much the car could do rather than its limitations. The oil business was who cares for me. If you have leftover oil, save it for next time. (Actually, we have the 2.5, and have the oiled changed for us). I agree totally about the dings and dongs. They’re so frequent that after a while you ignore them, which of course defeats their purpose. My big gripe-we have a 2020-is the assigning of functions to the big touch screen. I have to take my eyes off the road to work things, and sometimes I miss the button on the screen or it doesn’t respond immediately. Meanwhile, the car starts to drift from the lane, and the car scolds me to “keep eyes on the road.” Also, apparently the windshield is bit thin. A pebble I didn’t even see cracked the windshield, which was expensive to replace. Fortunately, we were covered by insurance. Folks with these cars should make sure to have glass coverage.
I have a 2015 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 and I get 24 miles per gallon in the city and I am totally satisfied with my car I don't have any problems with it
Stock battery is weak, cruise control on ES models disables in heavy rain/snow, leaving gate up drains battery, seats dont fold flat. Somewhat minor issues though
I have an ‘18 3.6R and I’ll add some issues I’ve noticed. 1. The infotainment screen is glossy. Try viewing the backup camera display when the sun is beating on the screen. Before this Outback I owned a VW Sportwagen and that infotainment screen was matte which was perfect for viewing at any angle in the sun. 2. Maps detection of audio input while driving. I think I speak clearly yet this system NEVER gets my audio input correct. Not only is it off, it’s waaaaay off. 3. The entire center front display does not allow for mounting of a phone holder. There is not enough space to stick an adhesive to the dash. The vents are pretty small and move too easily to hold a vent clip well esp with bigger phones. This leaves you with the option of using a windshield mounted holder. 4. The cup holders could be a couple inches deeper. As is, my standard, 16 oz. disposable plastic water bottle jostles around in there. Overall I love my car but would love it more if Subaru fixed those design/comfort issues.
2015 2.5 limited 1. - Overly sensitive gas pedal 2. - Nothing works without the key in the ignition...ie phone charger 3. - no auto close on sunroof 4.- no tire air pressure readout 5.- CVT shifting
Mine is completely stock and even trying my hardest to conserve gas it sucks it right down. Highway though I'll get 430 miles to a tank doing 70-75 miles an hour.
Omg, dude your commentary on the constant Subaru beeping is EPIC! I literally LOL’ed and I haven’t laughed that hard in months. It is so true! Constant beeping of my 2020 crosstrek drives me nuts. Crosstrek is pretty much just a short version of an outback
bruceyyyyy - Try turning off the traction control. Traction control derates the engine HP to prevent wheel spin/slip in normal conditions. But it will also cause the car to stall on off road uphills when more HP is needed. Also the Subaru is not a Jeep Rubicon. It is a compromise design of on road and off road capabilities. Even the Jeep Rubicon sometimes needs a Warn winch to pull them out of traction disasters. I have the 2018 Premium Outback and get 26 city and 33 highway, which is very respectable for an AWD car. The "Eyesight" nanny nags are for old foggies like me (70yrs) to keep us out of trouble. :-)
Eyesight is great for the younger crowd as well that seem to be texting or playing games on their phone while driving! it keeps them from drifting out of their Lane and also from rear-ending the car in front of them when they are not paying attention.
You complain too much. The beeps are annoying? Stay in your lane or use your blinker and the lane departure warning beep will not occur. And the oil gripe... dude get over it.
Video was just a test homie to prove adding the word Hate to the video title gets a lot more views due to you fan boys and it worked. Trust me, Bruce doesnt hate this car
Actually the beeper volume can be turned down to a minimum or you can turn them off. With mine on minimum volume I don't even hear them most of the time
From what I noticed is, the cvts are the weak link. Get a 5 speed (and I know, no newer outback comes manual) my 2013 Impreza has taken me places I wouldn't think possible simply because the 5 speeds means I'm in control, not the computer
I hear you! I've driving sticks my whole life but recently bought a 2019 outback--no more sticks in that vehicle or the Forester---my previous vehicle was a 2012 Forester with a 5 speed--great car! After being stuck in bumper to bumper traffick on I-81 the entire length of Virginia a few years back, I can say that I'm a little relieved at not having the stick anymore. But I enjoyed 'em for many years!
agree with this. i have a 2013 outback with a 6 speed manual and it's worlds better than my wife's CVT. in Europe they have tons of cars with undersized engines, but have learned that coupled with a manual gearbox that's really not a problem
The opposite spin problem was what made me never want another Subaru ever again. The first one I drove did this all the time; in the snow, on level wet grass, trying to get up a 1" concrete seam in ice. It drove me crazy every time I got stuck on level ground with 2 wheels just spinning. I feel you on fuel economy, I'm currently driving an FJ Cruiser and my 1.5 mile work commute I average 9 mpg. If the temp slips below 20f I get 8 mpg. It is just horrendous on short hops where the engine never gets to full temp. I also feel you on the oil, The FJ takes 5.49 qt. yup it takes decimal qt.
Get a German car and know what a money pit it is! No problems with our Outback after 12,000 miles. (That's 20,000 km for those of you who use that funny metric system.)
A german car? What bank do you own? Plus you need a degree in mechanical engineering to repair them. No thanks. Over engineered vehicles with too much redundancy built in. Guarenteed to fail, and cost a fortune to repair. NO THANKS. I had an Audi... Sold it too.
Bruceyyyy if those are your worst criticisms of the Outback then it makes me very happy that I just purchased one. 1. I don't ever plan on using it off road as you use yours; my idea of putting it though its paces is taking it on a long 700 mile plus road trip!! Subarus appeal to me not for their off-road prowess but for it's stability on slippery wet and winter roads. 2. I don't mind the chirps--it's part of what makes the vehicle safe. 3. The fuel economy I'm getting in northern NJ is excellent for the 3.6R--i'm getting about 25 in the mixed city/highway driving I do around here. 4. The oil is the oil is the oil . . . I have mine done by the garage--no tools, space or interest in doing it myself. But is it really such a hardship to have an extra container of oil around? You'll have at most 2 at any one time, unless you really stock up when it's on sale. But if you do that then so what? Aren't you used to having extra oil containers around anyway? 5. I agree totally that it's a shame that you can't put a full-size spare in the tire well. But given that many cars nowadays don't even come with a spare tire, I'm happy that I at least get a donut. It's a much bigger problem of course if you want to use your outback off road, as you do. Loved the video and your closing sentiment.
I have a follow up video to this one as well. No one ever watches it. Lol I made this because after owning one for years a few things irked me and I listed them here. I am obviously happy with the car (it's the first thing I say in the video) but that doesn't mean it's fault less either.
3:17 I’d be happy knowing there is more oil protecting my engine against premature wear. I see this as a bonus. Regular oil changes are the lowest cost in maintaining your vehicle with the highest return on your investment. I do agree with the beeping annoyance. Seems our world has gone “beep crazy” with backup alarms so loud that you often can’t even see the vehicle that you are being warned about. Uggghhh. Thanks for sharing this video. Cheers.
I sold my 2015 and went back to a Land Cruiser. Could not handle the CVT shutdown due to conservative CVT protection software, the plastic roof rack, and all the DAMN BEEPING.
Recently bought a 2022 Outback Wilderness and that solves #1 #3 and #4 I totally agree with all the beeping of #2. What makes it even worse, things I want to default to ON (after turning it on) default to OFF (like Auto Vehicle Hold) and things I want to default OFF (after turning off) default to ON. So frustrating! Great video and I loved the footage of #1, very good camera work!
@@ifillam7511 Bonus, after getting the newest TSB (for the touchscreen) they made AVH a perminant on/off icon right on the home screen. The TSB was great and fixed other things making it simpler and easier to see with aging eyes.
I have a 2019 Outback great car! love it! however, the fact that I cannot carry a full size spare…….. shows uncharacteristically poor planning….. (for Subaru Engineers)
A 3800 pound all wheel drive car is not going to get great gas mileage. I don’t mind that given all the good stuff the Outback 3.6R does. The law of entropy rules.
We have a fully loaded 2017 and if you can believe it there are actually no air/heat vents past the front dash. None under the seats, in the ceiling, or in the back. We use ours primarily to transport rescue animals and in the summer it can be quite brutal back there. Also somehow the passenger seat is considerably less comfortable than the driver's seat.
If it’s any consolation, my 2018 Impreza gets barely 20 mpg in the city, which is where I do most of my driving. Different story on the highway-up to 38 mpg.
I have a 2014 Outback, and my biggest complaint is the short roof rack span. Look at 23 seconds into the video - event thought the rails run from the front to the rear of the car, the usable length of the roof rack is incredibly short. If you want to mount any type of crossbar system to carry kayaks, SUPs, etc., the amount of spacing you can achieve between the front and rear cross mount bars is really tiny. Compare that to the Forester which splits the roof rack into 2 sections, allowing for a wider (and more stable) "footprint" for a roof rack system. I think the Outback is designed this way to allow for the switchable rail system - the rails pivot to allow you to use them as regular roof rails or as cross bars. While this is nice if you have a single board to carry on your roof, it isn't ideal for aftermarket rack systems (like Thule).
This is interesting The 2015 has a slot in the rails so you can mount it further back if need be. It also has integrated tie down loops. Does the 2014 not have that option?
@@bruceyyyyyInteresting - on closer look, I can see the extra slots in this video. But to answer your question - no, the 2014 model doesn't have those slots. Here's a youtube video with a closeup of the 2014 rack (33 seconds in): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Eb-k4Edhkh0.html
My guess is the 2020 model will go along way towards solving the gas mileage problem by replacing the 3.6 model with a smaller sized turbo engine. Still, the smooth power of the 3.6 is a joy to drive under any conditions.
It will probably get the same turbo four the Ascent has, but as an option. I'm guessing the 2.5 will still be around, as the new Forester also kept it with the new redesign.
I've heard the same thing. I got a 2019 3.6R because after having a turbo for several years, please give me normally aspirated power. No lag, especially when off road. I'm good with dimished mpg, but still get 22+ around town and 30 on the hwy. Very acceptable for a six cylinder.
My H6 gets 19 in town and more on the Highway. Mixed driving, right now, with a Thule box on top, my trip meter says 22.8 mpg over the last 1600 miles. It’s a 6 cylinder AWD that is averaging over 20 mpg. And my rig is a 2013. Dude, that’s a positive, not a negative, in my book.
I loved the honorable mention. The amount of times people have told me I have a headlight out because of that turn feature. It's functional for unlit winding backroads, though.
1 major flaw I see on 2016 Outback is the inability to adjust the temp control knob when you're just letting the outside air flow into the car. You can only adjust the temp by turning on the system, and then turning it off. The DIRECTION of the air flow can be adjusted with the center air flow selector. Don't know if this has been improved upon in later years.
Are you in Canada? We don't have the option of a manual transmission for the United States. Do you have any footage of yours off road or in snow? I am curious how a manual open diff wonder would handle those scenarios.
bruceyyyyy yes In Canada. But they stopped offering them in manual in 2018+ models. I don't have any footage but if I have an opportunity to record something useful I'll post it
Nobody should ever abuse a great car like you do. It is not a rock climbing Jeep. I love my 17 3.5R great mileage great on Montana icy roads, all around great auto.
If compared with american cars, it is a pretty good car. But it's far away from being a great car. The interieur is typical japanese Mickey Mouse style. Aweful.
My wife would kill me if I ever drove her Outback like the one in the video was driven! Lucky for me, I have a Silverado LTZ and a Wrangler Rubicon for those times I feel the need for a little offroad time.
This looks as though you are asking the car to do things it was not designed for. I have two 2019 Foresters (Premium i) to accomodate my back (DISH syndrome) and it really works with great back support - front and back seats. The 4 cylinder engine delivers about 30 mpg in mixedd local driving. The hatch on one did not open properly. A quick trip to the dealer. The service manager told my wife: "Don't go anywhere." In and out in 15 minutes after a quick adjustment.
Your car is so new. Your problems are not the true problems. Consider torque converter or fan mode actuator failures shortly ... these are problems ...
This video is meant more so as a review for those considering buying the car new. Issues that are rarely talked about in suck up reviews but are still worth knowing for the consumer.
Their is a button to FOREVER turn off lane departure warning, and you can also turn off the reverse warning. also you can adjust volumes of all of them, or turn them off expect seatbelt. just take a few min to look it up and fix it to your liking.
Yeah, the seatbelt noise is off for good on my Outback. Simple...see the many videos on how to disable. In all the years I have driven, over 55 years, never been on the street without being buckled up....don't need any reminder.
Driving largely highway, my 2.5i is getting a displayed 31.6mph, but M/G at the pump is closer to 29mpg. More power, torque, trailer capacity, and 4wd, compared to my 28mpg Saturn Vue I upgraded from.
Thanks for the video. I just bought my wife a new 2018 Outback. She loves it, me I'm okay with it even though I love Subarus. I loathe the beeping with the lane changes, and adaptive cruise. Too many safety features are turning us into bad drivers.
As for the spare, you knew that before buying the car. You don’t like it, don’t buy it. I hate Subarus. They’re ugly, noisy and full of hard plastic inside that scratches easily. It won’t start when it’s very cold because some cheap sensor froze. I don’t understand why 25% of them are sold to lesbians also.
I agree on a road this car beeps too much. Also eyesight is so unreliable, sometimes even adaptive cruise will just turn off on it's own because those eyes don't see
We've had a few Outbacks. Zero complaints, although we've had the 2.5L engines (wife's cars). She doesn't mountain climb, but that thing gets over 30 MPG on the highway fully loaded, is awesome in the snow and comfortable on long trips, to say nothing of ultra-reliability. Loads of features and conveniences. For the average human who's on roads 99% of the time, it's a great car. If I were going to be off-roading, maybe an old Bronco or Jeep.
#1. I had a 2003 Outback that went everywhere. The 2017 got stuck in my yard. 2#.Backing up with a trailer slams the brakes on even when I've shut off the sensor( unless it resets itself), but It works after the initial brake jam. 3#. Looking back through the car backing up. Hallelujah for the backup camera. 4# G D electronics that cause a parasitic draw on the battery. Even non-oem batteries get killed! 5#. Thin body panels that dent and scratch just looking at them. All the plastic in the interior too! Probably more than 5 things I hate about the Outback. I've had several Subaru's over the past 25 years, and this is the last. Subaru can eat a turd!
I wonder what's up. I had a 2000 Subaru Outback with Interco SSR mud tires as c the Gen 5 should go further on All Terrain tires. It also went through 6 or 7 windshields and was fairly easy to dent.
The way you're driving this reminds me of myself when I bough my first Outback in 98 and thought it could be driven like a dune buggy. I realized all the problems with off-roading were condensed to the fact that I was the one being a complete asshole. These are CARS, which are meant to be driven mainly on PAVED ROADS with some extra off road capabilities. Even though I love the old GL wagons with manual 4wd, they aren't going to be ever planning on making that feature again because they need to be safer for people who don't understand how to drive in inclement weather or how to handle a car which is sliding. That's why they do what they do with AWD. I just today picked up my 5th used Subaru and it felt SO good and familiar. The thing which brought me here was a minor headlight adjustment, which is on par with common problems with every brand of car in existence. And to the guys calling all Subarus complete junk- Go buy a Land Rover and see how far you get before they quit on the trail, or you have to spend 13K on a transmission fix....
gas mileage can't be good with these tires ;) ... i switched off my lane departure warning, however car beeps for a reason, can be easily avoided if the driver pays more attention to driving
In my 2015 one of the things you did not mention was how much the center screen gets dust and how there is no sun shield to block glare on it. Totally chuckled myself when you mentioned the beeping. 🙂 I love this car though. It has been awesome.
i took my 2019 subie impreza for a car wash a couple days ago and when the guys got done cleaning the inside not even 5 minutes later there was dust on the screen like it was never cleaned!! i thought i was dirty but glad its not only me!
I bought a brand new 2017 Subaru Outback and it was the biggest POS of any car I've ever owned. We sold it after 8 months as the new Subarus are nothing like they use to be. See those bogus marketing adds where 4 dudes have kayaks or bikes on the back driving thru the mountains?.....4 bikes on the back with 4 adults and you are way over the max load for the MPG inspired fragile suspension which throws off the rear camber and eats your tires. Do a search for "bald rear tires on my Subaru after road trip" as the forums are full of outdoorsy people like us who thought this would make a decent ski, bike or kayak car for our family. Every time we drove it my wife or I said, "damn I hate this car". Nothing about the new ones are rugged enough for going off road but they are ok for an elderly couple that just wants something for going to the grocery store. If you want a good vehicle to do what people wished an Outback would do, get a Toyota Highlander. Now that is a vehicle we love!
What's funny is I've owned a 2000 Subaru, a 2006, a 2013,, a 2015, and a 2017. The 2017 is easily the best for capacity, capability, comfort, and reliability. I'm glad you like the Highlander though! It's another similar vehicle worth checking out.
@@bruceyyyyy yeah we wanted to love it as we had Subis growing up in Tahoe and we never buy new but splurged on this one thinking we'd keep it for 20 years. After 8 months of frustration (3 months traveling around Colorado skiing), we cut our losses and traded in for the Toyota.
My 3.6 gets 21 around town and 26+ on the hwy. I carry about 400 lbs. constantly and run a 235/65-17r tire that’s heavy as hell and they are great! Try a true dual exhaust, K&N filter and a chip. You’ll love the results.
Thank you for the video. With respect to the gas mileage, do you do the city driving on the all-terrain tires too? If yes, I suspect overall fuel economy would improve on OEM tires (all seasons).
I think the reason I get such lame mileage is the conditions I drive. Short city trips. Lots of stop and go. Less than 2 mile commute. I am sure the AT tires are a factor.
2015 Outback 2.5 - In Minnesota and below zero weather - the heater vent for the driver is very poor - the little motor or the venting just don't produce enough heat for the drivers side ! I don't mind the beeps - alarms but if you are stuck in traffic that little motor will not produce enough heat and it's a no brainer for me - I will pay for the extra gas in a larger engine or more cylinders next time.
Hi Keith...2016 2.5 limited with the auto-climate control here in Minnesota...it's been adequate on ours entering our fourth winter. Unless there's a difference in trim levels on the heater or there was a fix after 2015 (or you live in Embarrass--LOL) , doesn't sound right.
The traction control system is great, but reminds me of a new mother with a 3 month old baby. It stops the car from doing anything the computer thinks will get it in trouble, *ANYTHING!!!* LOL! I have to turn it off just to drive it up the ramps I use when changing the oil, and when it's a bright sunny day, it stops me from pulling into my carport if I stop just before the entrance, then try to slowly pull in, because of the contrast between the shade from the roof, and the concrete pad... 🙄 The incessant beeping isn't too bad, except for the lane change assist, ugh! As for the millage, to me, it's a fair trade when it comes to the extra torque of the H-6. It may not be in the hybrid range, but it never was intended to be, LOL!
@@confidentlocal8600 No. It only does it when I'm creeping forward into my carport on very bright sunny days. In the last 5 years, it has never malfunctioned under normal driving conditions at highway speeds.
Just sell it and buy a tractor or armored vehicle if you wish to drive of road . I am happy with my 2015 outback It’s very convenient Constructed , Dependable strong on Snow Road. Completely disagree with you
I think it's a good video. 'HATE' is in good humor and still appreciating the car. Shows what the car is and is not. It's a crossover, not a military grade vehicle. It's a bit heavy but you get a completely solid feel. The spare tire on the roof scenario is just terrible design, or perhaps a tradeoff of low weight distribution, I'm really not sure.
As someone else mentioned - Australia gets a full sized spare. My 2015 Outback came with 225/60 R18 Bridgestone Dueller HP Sport. There is not much space on each side which could be a problem if you change to larger rolling diameter tyre. I'm now running a slightly wider 235 width tyre and there is plenty of depth for that. I believe our right hand drive models are sourced from Japan but I doubt there would be any difference in the size and shape of the spare wheel well?
You know Bruceyyyyy I served in Vietnam in an armored cavalry troop and even our tanks and ACAVs got stuck. So beefing about the Outback which can be driven on the highways getting stuck in inhospitable terrain is a pretty trifling complaint.
Great video!! The history of the oil capacity makes me super happy with the goofy amounts that are currently needed. All Subarus used to have a very low capacity of 4.5qts on the 4 cylinder models. After driving 3k miles a Subaru can easily burn 1-2 quarts of oil if the engine has 100k miles or more on it. Its a normal engine thing, Subarus burn a little more than normal though. A lot of owners never check the level between changes. Leaving the engine with 2.5-3.5 quarts of oil is super dangerous. I have seen a lot of motors fail because low oil level. The oil sludges up quickly and leads to engine failures. A lot of people use 5k and 7k change intervals and without maintaining oil level! Problems surface very quickly! Double check your oil level on Subbies! They last a long time if you do!! I know of at least a dozen cars over the 400k mark.
@@chatnavz Is the oil level full? Is it the correct viscosity? If you answered yes to both, I would do an oil pressure test asap to determine what is going on before you have more motor problems. The lamp may be coming on, for a LOW oil pressure problem.
Easy Fix firestone did it then the next oil change i did myself to make it sure but same result. Yes it is a correct viscosity. Ok gonna buy gauge to test my oil pressure. Thank for your help.
@@chatnavz Ok, cool. Sometimes the oil pressure sensors do go bad. Check those. You should have one the block minimum. If you have 2006 or newer, I believe you have one in each head. They are all easy to change and super cheap. The sensors are common failure points. I would check the pressure at the same time though to make sure you have the correct amount.
My biggest complaint: stupid CVT transmission. It is slow, weak, and won't be able to take much abuse. This car also got bigger and heavier which made it more slow. It probably does better than a ford escape in terms of mpgs. Those turbos in the Escape suck back gas and the awd is always on when you acclerate you cant turn it on or off.
I am going to hang on to my manual 6-speed 4th generation. It's still a little weak, but the stickshift makes that ever so much more bearable. Sure wish the new ones were available with manual transmissions. The CVT just takes all the life out of the car.
I’m always puzzled by your fuel economy issues. I’ve seen you post about that on the forums too. I have the 3.6, and my *worst* tank of gas so far was 18.5mpg, which was towing a small boat with KO2s. The lifetime average so far is 24.0mpg, in Minnesota, so with plenty of cold commutes. I still wish those numbers were higher, but that you’re getting substantially worse with the 2.5 is strange.
Nope! 2.5 to 3.6. The only way to tell them apart in this video is the radio antenna. The 2.5 had a bubble antenna at the rear of the roof while the 3.6 has a shark fin.
I have a 112 mile 50percent highway and I average 29.6...no complaints. My wife only drives in the small town we live in with her Forester and she is getting 27.9....still really good
I show mine shifting like a traditional automatic. If sound is what is important to you. A traditional CVT sounds like a jet taking off where the rpms stay constant but the speed increases. Subaru doesn't do that.
@@tomaszj.9608 in Europe most if not all newer cars have fog lights that come on when turning. Its been about for a couple of years. You turn and the corresponding fog light illuminates it's so you can see more when making a turn at night.
I never realized mine did that till it did that. As far as FOG , those are really just driving lights mounted low. They do nothing for cutting fog. I ended up buying actual AMBER bulbs. THOSE are fog lights.
@@tomaszj.9608 No they are not new, they Are new in the sence only one comes on whilse turning. They are not even true fog lights. Imagine cutting fog with those? Nope. I actually changed my bulbs to Amber ones. True fog lamps are AMBER.
Have had 3 Jeep Wranglers and traded my last one on a 2012 Outback manual and so far it has done everything I expected except I turned around at a flooded road which even if I was in a Jeep I probably would have avoided. Have enjoyed the quiet and smooth ride and ESPECIALLY the MPG which is over DOUBLE what the Jeeps were getting!!
I had an '07 2.5i Outback with manual transmission. I still want to see a comparison in off road performance between a manual Outback and the latest CVT Outback. My money is on the manual with low range
@@bruceyyyyy I am glad to hear that--I would love to have received the wrong info. So many places I have looked have advised me to steer clear of the CVT and WELCOME input that this is not the case. Fact is Bruce, my wife LOVES the 2016 Outback she just test drove yesterday. Loves the body style, the internal features, the ergonomics, the mileage, the solid body, the solid reputation. As far as I cam concerned, if you have a positive view of the reliability of the CVT, then all all I have to say is "preach brother, preach"
@@bruceyyyyy I also believe in multiple inputs, my brother, just today also spoke up and told me why he likes the CVT that he has on his car. So see, that is TWO good inputs--she may end up buying the car after all. Thank you Bruce. PS I will look at that video--right now.
