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Top 5 things I love about the 2018 KTM Duke 790
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@CampbellZeroOne 6 лет назад

Definitely a fun bike that can do it all. As you said, you get a lot for your money. You really have to try it in track mode though. Switch off Anti Wheely and ratchet down the Traction Control and it honestly feels like another bike. Throttle becomes far more responsive. It's as if you have another 10bhp on tap. Not suitable for town riding, but on your favourite back road it's a blast!

@aimenalwan 6 лет назад

Loved the breakdown, can’t wait for the long term review. And please don’t change your breakdown style, it works perfectly. Cheerio 🍻

@pasiutrial 4 года назад

I love this guy cuz he always mentiones what year bike he actually rides. We all know bike versions can vary greatly from year to year but some reviewers seem to ignore that fact.

@theresonly1truth138 6 лет назад

i couldn"t get enough of this bike!

@pastie3131 6 лет назад

Another fantastic review TMF. You have really got me thinking about booking a test ride on the 790. Why is it that every time I watch one of your vids, my bank balance is in danger of getting a battering? Keep up the great work sir.

@MrPtholt 6 лет назад

Had mine for four weeks now, loving it completely. Its only a hooligan if you choose to let it be, i commute and pootle around, then when the red mist descends i go play as well. Goes in for first service next week, but been a great bike so far, no complaints from me.

@SpirosGlykas 6 лет назад

That's a sharp looking bike. Love it! I am also waiting for the ADV variant. Great review!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Cheers Spiros...

@LambChopRides 6 лет назад

Great review TMF, I have that one here in my garage. Not that Im that Hoonigan you were referring too but its not that easy to wheelie though due to snatchy throttle and weak euro 4 bottom end below 5k. Needs that pipe and remap to unleash its full potential!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

I probably broke it with all the excessive wheelies and burn-outs I did off camera....nice bike though eh?

@LambChopRides 6 лет назад

Yes for the money its fantastic! Quality and fit and finish is incredible for the money as is the electronics as you mentioned. Seems to run hot though in this weather, think the motors a hot runner

@hipsabad 6 лет назад

Chopster, isn't that just being--ha!--a KTM?

@64zorn 6 лет назад

Correct, all KTM's have hot engines.

@SiddharthVarman 6 лет назад

Back to back rides with the Triumph vs. 790 would be fun to hear

@nathanboeger9329 6 лет назад

Sounds like a fun ride. I am waiting for the 790ADV. Should have similar engine (maybe tuned down bit).

@ben.aka.bigben 5 лет назад

Good review. Unbiased and to the point.

@GrtSatan 4 года назад

Had to replace the front tire on mine after running over a nail and was unpleasantly surprised to learn that the stock Maxxis Supermaxx tires are no longer available. The dealer was able to replace it with a KTM authorized Michelin otherwise I was looking at having to replace both tires. Very happy with the Michelin but my Duke, with less than 3000 kilometres on the clock is currently in the shop having a coolant leak addressed. Thank goodness KTM honors their warranty. Otherwise the bike is a pure joy to ride and the engine in particular is a grand slam.

@AX7razor 6 лет назад

I love the 790. I own the 390 Duke and that's really good as it is for the price. One day, I'm gonna upgrade to the macdaddy the superduke

@johnnyturco1017 6 лет назад

This bike sounds like a BEAST. Great vid!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF

@iainian 6 лет назад

Thanks TMF for your valuable time on doing this review!! Top 5 things I love.......Duke 790 Looking forward to the long term review and enjoy your tour, which starts today? PS. I like Letterman and enjoyed the films Groundhog day and Edge Of Tomorrow!!!!!!! Like Emily Blunt as well but that's a whole different subject!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yep sure does - on my way to the ferry shortly....stay tuned!

@spetersonmusic 6 лет назад

Man - what a bike! Awesome!!

@johnward3490 6 лет назад

Another great review, can’t touch it for the money, wake up manufacturers the way bike prices are going is unsustainable. When the pcp bubble bursts and the old generation on Gs’ pack it in value for money like this will rule. If there is a bike industry left. Cheers

@IanTed 6 лет назад

John Ward Thanks for the advice John but I’ll stick with my GS, once it’s moving feels like a mid range bike and I can afford it...

@GIGABACHI 6 лет назад

Good work, Mr. Flyer. I too think it's a very complete and balanced package for the money. Lots of bells & doodas as standard equipment that other brands charge extra to have.

@hudsonrilke 6 лет назад

Great bike. Would be on my shortlist. Nice vid.

@RiderReview 6 лет назад

Rambo is looking forward to test one next week

@kiwiandyt123 6 лет назад

Lovely bike! Can't wait until they bring out the ADV version, and also hopefully a road-oriented "GT" based on this platform.

@debroyprasenjit 4 года назад

2021 890 GT or SMT

@wm2357 6 лет назад

Good morning sir, thank you for another great video.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Good morning Peter and you're welcome!

@ptrhattingh 6 лет назад

Its not a great wheelie bike, but the way it pulls out of corners is great.

@SteveInskip 6 лет назад

Great vlog as always MrF. This is the bike I’ve been waiting for from KTM, a medium capacity twin. Looks great, goes really well and I can’t wait to ride the adventure version (as long as they don’t dumb it down like Triumph did with the Tiger). Pity about the mirrors. Looks like you could land a few pidgeons on those. Nice to hear MrsF back on the drums! ;)

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yes I'm looking forward to the adventure too - just hope it looks alright......

@SteveInskip 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer haha....indeed...KLM’s can be an acquired taste.

@acopernic 5 лет назад

Happy owner of the 790... Yes the quickshifter and.. All the other 4. Will change for metzeler tires too.

@Hodmeister 6 лет назад

There is one bit where your shadow is over to the right that reminded me of the silhouette of Queen Victoria :-)

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Crikey, you're a one you!

@kamilf9558 5 лет назад

Great video Thumbs up 👍 Thanks for sharing Peace

@jacobvancampen3656 6 лет назад

Dream bike

@kierandevlin7740 6 лет назад

Another great video.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Cheers Kieran

@TerryManitoba 6 лет назад

That is one Big Big bike you got there son.. The Big size is what i love about the 2018 SD 790.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

..it's not THAT big???

@TerryManitoba 6 лет назад

Ya but - the seat height is 32.4"- so that's fn Big.

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

Try a 990 adventure ...

@TerryManitoba 6 лет назад

eu BD - I've got a 990 SuperD and have owned a few bigger GS's. I made the comments cuz the reviewer tested an 850cc Yamaha Tracer and commented at least 3 times in that review that it was a BIG bike - so if that is the case - why is the 790 Duke (60cc less) not a biG bIG BIG bike - Just calling him out on it and lame attempt at cheeky!!!

@photographerjonathan 4 года назад

I had to listen to what he says at 5:21 around ten times before I understood what he said lol, I am considering this KTM 790 Duke and the Yamaha MT 09

@earlebacciochi9796 6 лет назад

If manufacturers produced machines to the highest specifications ONLY! then they would save on costs and pass that on to the consumer.Good on KTM if that's their thinking here 👍

@scottmitchell6371 6 лет назад

Interesting to compare it with the Ducati Hypermotard although that may be more pricey.

@peakrider4886 6 лет назад

Not really into the naked bike scene, but will be looking forward to seeing the 790 Adventure when it is finally released. If it's as good as the Scalpel but in ADV form it could render the Tiger 800 and BMW 850 obsolete!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

..yeah I'm looking forward to trying it...

@GrumpyGarry121 6 лет назад

Morning mr flyer. Looks like good competition for the MT09.......

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Indeed it is....

@soupdragon1 6 лет назад

Number 1 is the reason i purchased the 790 had it 2 months now and its absolutely brilliant.I will have a good guess the mirrors are near the top on the dislike list😉

@0YouCanCallMeAl0 6 лет назад

Before watching: #1: Engine :) Edit: dang, missed ;)

@nolongerinuse488 6 лет назад

So would you say the only difference between this and the SDR1290 is literally just the engine?

@johnrimmer5812 6 лет назад

A relative bargain, would be interested in KTM service intervals / and cost though. Nice one as always.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Stick around for my next video on this bike John - will be my long term review and I cover servicing costs and intervals on that one...stay tuned!

@johnrimmer5812 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer Will do mate.

@pgkr67 6 лет назад

Oil every 15000 km, Valves every 30000 km..

@ronyrobjangeo 6 лет назад

Good one!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Cheers...

@a.h.9324 6 лет назад

Debating between the Duke790 or Agusta 800 Brutale....thoughts?

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

TMF: A fair summing up of the 790 from the master himself! The only point I disagree on is the quick-shifter. While it may be one of best on the market, I find it more of a gimmick than anything else. It is smooth, but still not as smooth as my manual changes, and changing gear on the 790 is effortless. And on the rare occasion where I have cocked up, and am in too-high gear with too-low revs coming up to a red-light, the quick shifter won't help. Mid July my 790 bit me. In the car park after work, I lifted the side stand, and suddenly the bike flipped to the left.. I still cannot explain it, but put it down to a momentary lack of attention, and maybe the bike not being ideally positioned. Whatever the cause, the result was hospital, plaster, and some weeks of limping. All things considered a bagatelle injury that could have been much worse, but stopping me biking, horse riding and paragliding for 2 months.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Oh dear - sorry to hear that Chris!

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

Thanks TMF. At the end of the day it could have been a lot worse: The same accident a few minutes later in the cut and thrust of rush hour city traffic might have had me under the wheels of a multi-segment-bendy-bus; or out in the hills on minor roads I might not have been found for over an hour ..... The worse thing is, I can't identify a specific mistake, so I can't learn from it. I just have to put it down to "shit sometimes happens".

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

Nasty. Is the QS maybe still faster than the manual shifts even if you feel it's not as smooth? Are you also sure you are doing it right (keeping power on changing up and off when down) as mine (1290 SA S) is buttery smooth and instant.

@SpikeyOfficial 6 лет назад

These bikes come with so much tech now 😬

@TheMatrrixx 5 лет назад

is this bike a good bike for long distance touring? Riding position?

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

QQ TMF: Can you please pop into the dash options and see if you can find an option to tell you the current software version? Mine is finally due to be ready for me on Friday. :)

@paulpartridge2674 6 лет назад

Very interesting, look forward to the long termer, just a thought can we include tyres on the review . So many bikes let down by bad OEM tyres . I would rather pay a bit more for decent rubber rather than having to change them as soon as I pick bike up.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

I'll see what I can do! Stay tuned....

@tonytrevino3204 6 лет назад

I wonder if the mirrors will make the 'don't like list' lol

@raymorris952 6 лет назад

They look like they stole them off a keeway 125! Dog shit, !

@leanatale7251 6 лет назад

Like to know what the comfort is like on longer rides, for old geezers.

@TheStressD 6 лет назад

Great video mate, what do you think that's better this or MT09 SP?

@TheStressD 6 лет назад

Nate Davis The SP only costs a couple of £100 more than this, I would say the SP is better value for the money. You could potentially get it the same price of this if you battled the dealers off against eachother.

@kevinhekers2380 5 лет назад

He happy 2019 could you perhaps review the shiver 900 in the future

@mt1885 5 лет назад

Will you haves a Long terms review of Likes/Dislikes by chances?

@assortedpov9722 6 лет назад

Ah I know the KTM is a league ahead of it, but you're making me impatient for my new MT07. Put a deposit on it last Saturday and got the money in my bank ready to transfer but I'm having a couple of small mods added and one of my local dealership's mechanic/fitters got knocked off his bike on the way to work last Friday morning.

@thebasy2453 5 лет назад

This isn't your diary wtf

@bobvandick2546 6 лет назад

I’m anticipating your long term review. Could you see this bike being set up to do any kind of touring? I suppose in a perfect world one could get a BMW 1200 GS that weighs under 500 lbs that costs under $18,000. But alas, that will never come to pass. I’m trying to find a less expensive alternative out there, but I don’t see one. I really want to get away from chains as well, but I could possibly be enticed if equipped with a center stand. My current ride lacks one. I will most likely end up with the Beemer, just doesn’t appear to be anything else out there.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Funnily enough I recently took this bike on tour to the Peak District - more to come in my long term review soon....stay tuned!

@UKJaiO 6 лет назад

Please do 2018 Yamaha MT-07 Review :)

@Kalsino 6 лет назад

And in Denmark it's cost 151.821 Danish Kroner and in Pund that is 18.300. And because it is so expensive in Denmark is our really high VAT and taxes.

@tooresttrikie6744 6 лет назад

arm and a leg to insure I bet though, most "newly out" models are? but it does look great! still think though 14l is pretty silly on an 800cc sporty engined bike with 100+ bhp under your bum! when your street triple and the new one have 17 or 18 litres! ride safe

@SigmaJAD 6 лет назад

toorest trikie OK I'm still running it in but 63.8 mpg over 500 miles. Range not bad.

@tooresttrikie6744 6 лет назад

really? not too bad then for an 800! maybe I'm wrong ooh how'd that happen? lol

@RichardEricCollins 6 лет назад

I was thinking that tank was a bit too small. I hope to be wrong. My GSXR 750 was spoiled with this 100 mile tank range. Just could not use it for the occasional long trips which was a shame as I found it very comfortable.

@rogerbanks8280 6 лет назад

Cost less to insure with Bennet's than my shiver 750 when I px it in

@tooresttrikie6744 6 лет назад

oh fair enough! are you a young guy? I mean 20 something? because I would think for younger riders it might be pretty pricey?

@kelvinhii939 6 лет назад

Really nice review. Comparing the Duke 790 and the Street Triple RS, which do you think is the better bike?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Tough one - I think I prefer the Street Triple on looks...KTM rides better though, maybe...

@Quijibo13 6 лет назад

I'm looking forward to getting my hands on one. First thing on the to do list is to change the looks. :)

@ChrisJones-qh2dw 6 лет назад

Engine wise, how would you compare this to the MT07?

@helgejohan3604 3 года назад

Its like a Mt07 with a turbo🤙🔥

@ianjames3078 6 лет назад

My 18 390 tft doesn't change between light/dark anywhere near as much as that. Obviously in your top 5 I don't like.

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

They did a s/w update for this on the 1290 SAs, I imagine if enough people moan, they can change the timing on the 790 too.

@DeanElcome 6 лет назад

Just sitting in the KTM centre in Hemel, drinking coffee and waiting for my 390 to be serviced (bought off the back of your review no less), and I'm sat opposite a 790... I can see today is going to be a difficult one.. 😍

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Say hi to Jason from me - haven't seen those guys in ages!

@DeanElcome 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer Will do!!

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

Dean, having owned both, I can testify that as a 390 owner you are still one lucky guy! Academically the 790 may be better, but the 390 is very very close in my humble opinion, and the 790 does nothing that the 390 cannot. In fact my 390 had panniers, which my 790 does not yet. Both are fun fun fun.

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

Does the 390 do 240km/h (indicated)? ;)

@DeanElcome 6 лет назад

EU Bike Dude no way.. if you managed to get to 170kph you’d be very lucky

@robert.reimon 5 лет назад

If you could only have only one bike for commuting between the 1250gs and this ktm790, which one will you pick?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 лет назад

Commuting only? I’d take the KTM

@thechance123 4 года назад

I don't know if you have been asked this yet, so I'll ask. Have you road with a passenger? If so, how is the bike for two up trips? thanks

@TheMissendenFlyer 4 года назад

No sorry I never rode with a passenger on this bike.

@singhkrishanu 6 лет назад

How is the seat? 1 more thing is the radiator fan too loud? Like here in india we have bumper to bumper traffic with temperatures soaring upto 40 degrees Celsius duke 390 heats up a lot making the radiator fan sound like a jet engine. Grt video though. Thanks

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

No the fan is fine (compared to the 390) nowhere near as much cutting in - the seat, typically KTM but more comfy on a long tour than I thought - stay tuned for more soon!

@stuarthunter7559 6 лет назад

Krishanu Singh not a problem in Yorkshire until this summer lmao

@SigmaJAD 6 лет назад

Seat is ok over 150 miles and I don't have a fat ass. No fan noise noticed.

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

The seat is iron-hard, even with my less-than-impressive 63kgs weight, I will have the comfort seat fitted soon! While my 390 had an "annoying" fan that seems to kick in too soon, it did its work. The 790 kicks up much more heat, in 30+ degrees weather it is a furnace* in stop-start city traffic, and I routinely switch the engine off when not moving. *But with 3 times the power in an engine block not much bigger that of the 390, maybe no surprise.

@IM-nt6ql 6 лет назад

Hey MissendenFlyer, great review as always and i fully agree it’s amazing value for money!...a bit of an unrelated question however as someone who is looking to pick up a 690 duke for my own reasons, where you able to flatfoot the duke 690 at your height? I’m aware the duke 790 has a much shorter seat height but it’s not what i’m looking for

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

As far as I recall yes....

@stableslayers3958 6 лет назад

Ffs don’t get the 690. Mine broke down every 21 miles. Ktm couldn’t sort it. Common problem re fuel pumps yet they were blinkered. Stay away from Ktm bud

@IM-nt6ql 6 лет назад

Stable Slayers Thanks for the info, that’s a real shame! What year was yours?

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

They seem to have new/better/working fuel pumps now. I had a replacement fitted to my 1290 within the 1st month (recall from KTM and have had no fuelling issue since and no stranding. Surely you could have returned it to the dealer (or got a new replacement bike) after a couple of fix attempts if it was stranding you every 21 miles? How did you get on in e.g. small claims court?

@stableslayers3958 6 лет назад

Kim had six weeks. Said all fixed. 21 miles later you guess. You take Ktm to court if you have the money. Traded shite thing in and never looked back. And would never go back

@teddylott 5 лет назад

what the the manual clutch for when you have a quick shifter on a bike? Kinda thought this would remove the satisfaction of changing gear

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 лет назад

You need the clutch at standstill and it gives you the choice the rest of the time....

@teddylott 5 лет назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer ahhhh i see right okie dokles thanks for clearing that up

@fireblade_ninja308 4 года назад

How dose it compare to a mt09? ....both seem like fun bikes

@TheMissendenFlyer 4 года назад

I think I marginally preferred the Duke...

@Banditmanuk 6 лет назад

Looks a great bit of kit for the money. Would possibly make a great lightweight 1 up tourer with a couple of panniers. Do wonder if the trend for quickshifters and autoblippers will shorten the life of a gearbox? Guess the second hand market will find out in a few years. Cheers.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

..Yes will be interesting to see won't it - hope it doesn't, as I have them on two of my bikes......

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Make that three....

@specialcircs 6 лет назад

I don't understand the point of them on anything besides a sportsbike. Doesn't it take away some of the skill & joy of working the transmission yourself (like manual VS auto in a car)? I've never used one so just don't know....

@Banditmanuk 6 лет назад

Got an up-shift only quick shifter on my MT10 and it is an incredible feeling just holding open the throttle, not touching the clutch and flicking it up through the gears. Normal riding I still use the clutch just to not over stress the gear box.

@calbrock6302 2 года назад

Currently £5.5k for a 2018 bike with 3k miles….I am VERY tempted

@jyexe525 4 года назад

Any trouble with the quickshifter ?

@TheMissendenFlyer 4 года назад

Nope, none....

@mocky1220 6 лет назад

It costs 11,300 UK Pounds (converted) here in the Philippines! 🤣

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Buy one here and ride it back? ;0)

@Nathan123Davis 6 лет назад

This bike would be better if it had fully adjustable suspension, hydraulic clutch & Brembo brakes and maybe ever so slight bump in power. In return they could bump up the price a bit. Then it would be perfect, or create a R versions with some extra goodies. There is a hole in the market for mid weight bikes with premium parts. I think the 790 is an amazing bike but I'm sad to see they skimped out slightly on the suspension and brakes.

@RealOrbit-Australia 6 лет назад

Nathan David You've answered your own points mate! The R will happen as it happened with the 690. Probably a year down the line

@SigmaJAD 6 лет назад

I just came off a bike with top spec abrembo brakes. The ones on the 790barent shamed. 8n fact I'm shocked at how good they are. Who needs Brembo?

@misumaniaku 5 лет назад

Hi,should i trade my 2016 ktm 690 smc r for the duke?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 лет назад

Only you can decide that one! Have you ridden the Duke?

@nogamenolife705 5 лет назад

So for me i'm torn between the KTM Duke 790 v MT 09 SP? Any opinions? Cheers!

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 лет назад

Hmm tough, go for the one you like the look of most....

@nogamenolife705 5 лет назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Wow, thanks for the quick reply, honestly didn't expect it. I'm in Northern Ireland and the roads are horrendous so i think i would prefer something a bit more comfortable and assured. Which do you think you would prefer as a daily commuter? Thanks again for the amazing response!

@specialcircs 6 лет назад

I'm never going to change your mind on this but to make the point again, this is not a 'little' bike. Just because it's smaller than your 1200 GS it doesn't make it a small bike. You don't call the Eiffel Tower 'short' because there's now the Burj Khalifa, do you? ;-) A 125 is a small bike and, arguably, a 250. But 600 and over are mid size if anything, and more than enough for most riders.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yeah sorry - habit I can't shake....it feels small compared to my normal steed...

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

I interpret the comment as "It's a small bike considering it's a 799cc". If you look at in the dealer it looks more like a 250 or 400 and it's also very light. Compare the feeling of weight of this to e.g. a Honda 500. In that respect it is a small bike.

@georgegeorgakopoulos5956 6 лет назад

Nice videos,but i am waiting patiently 2-3 years now from you to review a bike that is totally crap.No offence ,but i saw that from your Top 30 bikes is missing the DL650,the best value for money ,all around big bike (long wheelbase) of the last 20 years!!

@Aiken47 6 лет назад

How does the 790 feel compared to the 1290R?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Smaller, slower but fun and eager...

@MrStr8den 6 лет назад

You owe me this bike - the lc8 950 v-twins (became the 990) was ktm's first....erm, twin - now handover those keys!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

:0)

@dazman4891 6 лет назад

How's the riding position compared to street triple and mt/fz09?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Similar - not so canted forward as on the Street Triple....

@dazman4891 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer how about seat to pegs room?

@paulstredwick 6 лет назад

Bit more leg room on the 790. If I remember correctly, the pegs are slightly further forward and more relaxed than the Street Triple. Can't comment on the Yams.

@gazcheers46 6 лет назад

Just to be clear, it's not KTM's first twin cylinder bike ( what you stated in your vid), but it is their first parallel twin bike. Good vid & great bike, my bro has just purchased one instead of his 899

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yeah sorry - slip'o'the tongue.....that is indeed what I meant of course.

@JimmySlacksack 6 лет назад

the lean sensitive ABS does that mean you can pull the front brake going round corners?! if so have you tried it?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Indeed it does, and funnily enough, no I haven't! ;0)

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

Yes, I do that, but obviously gently, with no ill-effect on the 790, and in Switzerland we have lots of corners, most of them tight!

@DwayneLoudon 6 лет назад

What are your thoughts on KTM reliability? Originally wanted a Duke 390, but went with BMW G310R. Read a lot of head gasket horror stories about the KTMs. Duke is probably a little more fun to ride, but I think the BMW will be more fun to own. (i.e. reliability)

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

Both my 390 and the 790 that replaced it have been faultless so far, ridden in all weather. I did a test ride on a G310R, and while nice in its own way, it was way behind both KTMs in equipment, fun factor and perceivable build quality.

@DwayneLoudon 6 лет назад

Christopher Lamb Thanks man, good to know. Perhaps a future 2nd bike will be a KTM dual sport! Bikes are like lays potato chips... you can't stop at one😂

@DwayneLoudon 6 лет назад

Really, really happy with my BMW. Should probably not test ride a 390 then, is what you're telling me! Ignorance is bliss 😂

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

Yes, bikes do tend to "go forth and multiply" as the vicar says. That makes test-rides so dangerous to the wallet. My test ride of the G310 was post 790 purchase so I was reasonably safe.... I hope that KTM see sense and finally produce a smaller lighter Dual Sport, perhaps based on the 390: Something that you don't need a step ladder to get on, and light enough to pickup on one's own without busting a gut.

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

Spy shots indicate there is a 390 Adv coming as well as the confirmed 790 adv which arrives next year. :)

@taipan185 5 лет назад

Is this bike worthy of a beginer bike or is it just to much grunt?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 лет назад

I personally think it's a second bike - a bit too hairy as a first machine (is my view)....

@taipan185 5 лет назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the response mate. I used to ride but that was 27 years ago when I had my GSXR 750 (1989 model). I am torn between just sucking it up and starting right at the bottom to relearn all the skills and picking a bike that I I can invest in longer term. I know very well that me being me I'll want to up grade down the track if I get say a Duke 390. The frugal adult in me says 390 and learn it well. The years of knowing what my tendencies are like says go longer term investment and be disciplined with safety. One advantage of getting older for me has been my ego taking a back seat to discipline :D

@NB0606 6 лет назад

Does it fit tall ppl ? Im 6.3 or 1.93 m

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Err, dunno....

@bigdogpete43 6 лет назад

Buy it in 3 years after it has dropped by half.

@sinki19841984 6 лет назад

Well, it won't drop by half after 3 years. Just look at used KTM's...they hold their value quite well. Look at the newprice of a 690 duke, now look at the used prices. Only dropped 2k. I'm not saying to buy new, because I never buy anything new. But dropping by 50% is only gonna happen after more then 5 years and a lot of miles.

@thebasy2453 5 лет назад

Dropped by half the owners 😅

@upward_onward 6 лет назад

Can this bike a good tourer bike ?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yes, no reason why not!

@davestafford8560 6 лет назад

MT09 SP a better bike?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Tough call....

@keyop1970 6 лет назад

How does it compare to the Street Triple RS?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Feels very similar - riding position not as aggressive, STRS looks better IMO...

@keyop1970 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer Definitely looks better. With you on that one. Trying to get past that. Thinking about a replacement for my 2016 675R. Hmm... Test ride time I guess.

@neilwiddison6529 6 лет назад

Hey flyer does it have a heated seat ?

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

Yein: The seat is not electrically heated, but I find that the engine kicks up more than enough heat. Heated grips are an option that I have on order for mine.

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

I suspect the 790 adv next year will get the heated seat and the 390/1290 SA style dash layout and the lovely cruise control, the lack of CC should definitely be on the "5 dislikes" list. ;)

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

790 Dash layout is already 1290 style: a little smaller, but much sharper than the 390 part.

@stephenlane8366 6 лет назад

Nice review. Looks as if we are of a mind on this. I tested the Street Triple RS and the Duke 790 (or 790 Duke?) yesterday and have now ordered the Duke to replace my baby 390 version - a greta little bike but lacking a bit of go. I think the 790 is closer to a 390 on steroids than the bigger V-twins and is definitely more fun than the excellent, but a bit too civilised for this style of bike, Street Triple. Just what I hoped for when I took it out and cannot wait until next month when I get the new (orange of course) bike.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Congratulations! Exciting times ahead!

@specialcircs 6 лет назад

790 Duke, FFS!!!! ;-)

@stableslayers3958 6 лет назад

Ffs. Best of luck!

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

Stephen: Join the club! I made the same transition some months ago, my 790 was one of the first (possibly the first) delivered to a customer in Switzerland - Orange too. I am still trying to work out the differences between the two: the "on steroids" sums it up well. However I did not find the 390 lacking in power, it just needed a little more gear-shifting than the 790.

@b8tzim767 6 лет назад

Did you do anything in the way of go fast mods to your 390?

@ario-5925 5 лет назад

So wait, you dont use the clutch at all?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 лет назад

Only when stationary or coming to a halt.....

@ario-5925 5 лет назад

Wow, that is awesome thanks. Definitely going to be my next bike.

@magneto675 6 лет назад

Yeah duke 790 seems a great bike but at that price range and has juan brakes with no adjustable suspension front and rear and cheap tires while street triple rs in the same money has brembos m50s ,bp forks and ohlins rear with supercorsas....

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Is the RS the same money?

@magneto675 6 лет назад

In Greece there is only 400 euro difference....

@stephenlane8366 6 лет назад

Not in the UK, the price difference is £1700. Even the more basic Street Triple R is £700 dearer.

@magneto675 6 лет назад

i see...i dont know why the ktm is so cheaper in the uk but if that is the case in the UK duke is far more value for money choise i agree!

@palantir135 6 лет назад

Forgot to mention the heated grips. 🤒

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

Given that Great Missenden, and the UK in general, has been melting for months with an Indian summer, heated grips are probably not on the top of TMF's mind. At the moment a cooled ice-cream-cone-holder might be more relevant! 8-)

@palantir135 6 лет назад

Christopher Lamb here in the Netherlands and the rest if Europe have that same heat but I presume you also ride your bike in winter and then you need them.

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

There are of course heated grips available ... Not too pricey either. Mine will have them for sure as I ride in Irish winters ... (Q: Is it still really called Winter when it lasts more than 6 months???).

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

palantir135: I rode my 390 through the Swiss winter, which is generally colder than in the Netherlands, so heated grips for my 790 were a must-have-option. but one that at the moment may slip of the radar due to the current heat wave. Mind you. last time I worked in Holland was 1997, it was the last Elfstedentocht, and so cold that the penguins in Amsterdam Zoo had to be brought in and warmed up in a fridge!

@palantir135 6 лет назад

Christopher Lamb it can be quite cold here exept when your living neear the coast. It's not dry cold, we call it "water cold"; fog, drizzle with low temperatures. I mainly do touring, so at least more than two hours on the bike. Everything gets so cold then, also due to windchill, that you need the heated handgrips all the time. Not to mention your almost freezing toes.

@lordpunter6188 6 лет назад

Still waiting for the ZZR1400 test - too fast for ya ?😂

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Probably - I'd love a go, in reality they are hard to find on demo fleets these days....

@lordpunter6188 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer true, but would be a great comparison to the H2sx you recently tested.....many say the ZZR is better.

@asl3151 6 лет назад

I am waiting for the 500 duke actually... It is also a parallel twin..

@RiderReview 5 лет назад

As much as I like your review. However I test riden this and found it boring after one hour. A lot of your positives you have discribed I personally found them bit boring on the bike. Just my outcome. But your a great reviewer

@AldredsquashUk 6 лет назад

Only let down by cowboy KTM main dealers unfortunately

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

IME the KTM main dealers here (all two of them) are streets ahead of certain other local dealers. I think all brands will have their share of cowboy dealers sadly. This is somewhere where the brands in general need to step up and do more user surveys and spot checks etc. I think.

@Ste197 6 лет назад

Would it be good for a first/beginner 'big bike' ?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

I'd say too powerful - better to go for something a little tamer for 6 months IMO....

@Ste197 6 лет назад

TheMissendenFlyer cheers.. thats good to know.

@christopherlamb9838 6 лет назад

Eric, as a beginner, give the 390 a whirl. It is very, very close to the 790, but is even lighter and flickable.I loved mine to bits. Having earned your spurs, the 790 will be a natural upgrade.

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

Or leave it in rain mode with the TC on most intrusive for a while maybe? If it handles well and is light and has good torque in rain mode but not excessive it sounds like it could be great for learners. There is also an A2 version I believe, "790L" per the lady at principal ....

@colindeans5972 6 лет назад

Hmm, this is a marmite bike for me, can't decide if I think it's the biz or ugly.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 лет назад

Yes I'm a bit the same - I love KTM's in general but I so wish they'd get a better designer on board, none of the bikes are real head turners IMO....this one and the Super Duke R are OK, but not stunners....

@colindeans5972 6 лет назад

Wholly agree. Hope you have a safe trip this/next week, look forward to seeing the footage.

@r6ymy 6 лет назад

I think it's both. It's ugly, but would be huge fun. I'm eagerly awaiting the adventure version, that could be a bike that I could tour on and not be afraid to take down green lanes or gravel tracks.

@colindeans5972 6 лет назад

It'll hopefully be a bit better looking.

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

One of the things I like about the recent designs is the fact that they don't attract attention,. I can hustle along and not get any hassle and I'd rather have my bike appear to be "another boring dual purpose" when the thieving scum walk past looking for something to nick, than "Oh wow, an , I must steal that!" ;)

@tngchinghwa 6 лет назад

omg............ it's 2018, WHEN WILL KTM CHANGE THAT HIDEOUS STOCK MIRRORS

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

They want you to spend the 200 quid on the fancy bar end ones. ;)

@shrimpii3155 4 года назад

It's now 2020 and yet, nothings changed

@palantir135 6 лет назад

Only five things to like? 😋 Not my kind of bike. I'm more a touring guy. I don't need and like a hooligan bike. I want easy handeling, good weather protection and suspention and side cases.

@eubikedude 6 лет назад

Get a 1290 SA then. ;)

@bladerunner_92 6 лет назад

what bike are u riding?

@palantir135 6 лет назад

Mr. Green Honda cbf1000 sports tourer with half fairing.

@bladerunner_92 6 лет назад

palantir135 maybe duke 790 rc would be interesting for U) nice honda, looks pretty comfortable, but i prefer naked bikes and women’s ofc😌😎

@palantir135 6 лет назад

Mr. Green no, not a naked bike fir me. I want some wind- and rain protection. While touring I usually take the small and windy roads; they tend to have more holes and bumps. Therefore I want comfortable but not soft suspention. An allroad bike, not an adventure bike, is What I want. I've had a Suziku V-strom 650; marvelous bike was that. So a Suzuki V-strom or Kawasaki Versys, a Yamaha Tracer GT or Triumph Tiger are on my list. A BMW R1200 RT is also excellent.