That is some good advice on bargain-buying right there. Clarkson's savvy like that: he's the sort of person who would buy tickets to a film at the cinema, cross the street to buy his sweets and cola, and then cross back over to the cinema to watch the film. Try it next time your watching a film, saves you a small fortune.
If I had spent 55k on a V12 BMW I wouldn't be selling it at all even now, I'd be keeping it. I generally prefer that shape of BMW anyway to anything they've made since but that's just me.
Too bad the Mazda RX7 has gotten very popular in the recent years and many of the available cars have nasty bodykits and spoilers. Why ruin a beautiful car?
It's worth ten quid cause it's a citroen, not cause it's a bad car. Citroens have always been ridiculous value for the price because people think they're all money traps because of the few ones with problematic hydro suspension. Source: driving a 98 xsara for years with next to no problems which i bought for about a bag of crisps worth.
says who? cars been running fine under me, clocked 50k kms on it 250k-300k, no major problems, 10 times the space in the Break than comparably priced germans, really comfortable ride... besides the rear torsion suspension this car has 0 issues. the 8v engine is impossible to kill and the headgasket can be replaced for like 100gbp inc labor on the TU3 engine. This car costs nothing to run and has much more space and ride quality than anything else in the price range.
egykilenckilenchet yeah agreed, I have a 1993 2.1 diesel XM and a 2000 3.0 V6 (ES9 24 valve) with all the bodywork and interior converted to series 1 (pre-'94) spec. The diesel's done a quarter million miles, the V6 half that. The diesel gets me 55mpg on the motorway and actually has low end torque, unlike a modern diesel. Sounds like a tractor though. The V6 is wonderful. They are such stylish cars, certain to be future classics in my opinion.
...That 605 looks excellent, I wonder if it's still on the road though. Here in my country, Perú, you still can see many 605's. I have a 1995 SRi 2.0 with the engine rebuilt and runs like a champ. Most of the 605's here are in regular shape, though there are some great examples without any cracks in the dashboard, which is almost imposible in this car.
Sad but true. Just checked. Only 53 rx7s of all genes on sale. Prices went up fast after scrolling past the shit boxes. Up to $75kAU in fact. Avg maybe $35-45k for a decent one. $50k+ for a minter.
Many people who had the chance to buy the XJ220 cheap and just stick it in a garage under a sheet for a few decades must be kicking themselves now with how much they're now worth.
Well... I get you can save a fair amount of money by buying a 3-5 year old car instead of a brand new one. But tbh, I rather save a lot and buy a 20~ year old car. As sad as it is, I don't think car industry really did not much for the average people in the last 20 years. Between 85 and 95, Anti-Lock Brakes, Airbags, Injection and protection against corrosion (sorry for my english) became standard. Now from 95 on, what did we get? Engines got smaller, cars got heavier, fuel consumption claims became totally unrealistic, lots of "omg it's going to save your life" things like traction control, xenon lights etc. I doubt anybody thinks back at his e36, Audi 80 etc. and is glad to have survived it. You can get a "premium brand", well-runing, save car from the early-mid 90s with a decently powerful engine for less than 1000€. And this car will also save you (assuming insurance in your country works the same way it does in germany) a fortune on insurance. I got a '92 Audi 80 2.8E V6 with 220k km for less than 500€, the car is quite a save bet to reach 300k km, well maintained ones even reach more than 500k km, it doesn't rust and parts are (in germany, if the car is rare in your country, parts will be more expensive - quattros are also fairly expensive if something happens to the transmission or exhaust system) really cheap. Without driving slow, it uses between 10 and 12 L fuel on 100km. By comparsion, a new Golf VII with the 140PS 1.4L TSI (Turbo), which weights just slightly less (50kg or so), which accelerates slightly (~half a second) slower and has a slightly (about 10 km/h) lower topspeed, needs about 8 Liters (despite the very optimistic claims of 5.4L, which it reached with special oil, tires you would't even put on a 50ps car... on a dyno without wind or idiots that cut you off and force you to brake) - and it has 6 or 7 (depending on transmission) Gears rather than the Audi's 5, which leads to another minus on the golf's 1.4L firecracker: The Elasticity from 80-120 takes 5.6 seconds in the Audi, Golf with 6 Gears takes 7 seconds, Golf with 7 Gears 8.5. I'm not saying the Audi is better than the Golf because it's faster, accelerates better etc. as it's somewhat doubtable that a 20year+ car still has all it's horses alive and reaches the times within tens of a second. I'm also not a Driver who has to to go all-out to impress anybody. - But I also think IF I have to pay a decent amount of money for tax/insurance, the car I pay this for shouldn't be just something like a 65PS 1-ton Kia Picanto which has to fear ambitioned truck drivers. Note: PS differs just very slightly from HP, but I don't have the HP-Numbers in my Head, so I wrote the right PS ones rather than just translating PS into HP and use Numbers that would seem odd for those used to HP.
They didn't look too bad, just like a bigger 405, the early ones had electrical issues, like the early xm's but i think later ones had that all solved. Id love to get a v6 605, the 607 just looks so awkward.
Clarkson hated Rovers, even when cars like the 200 and 600 were actually very good. I had a Honda engined 200 that was completely faultless and only rust killed it at 11 years old. Sister had a diesel 400 that went forever and was only scrapped after a crash rendered it worthless. I think he equated everything they made with the Allegro.
Amazingly the same thing that happened to that Jag happened to the Bugatti Veyron, it went on sale a few years before the worst financial crisis since the great depression
Bought my £31k new mondeo titainium-x 163ps powershift estate with many extra's 2 years old for £10k. Just coming up to 7 years old now and nothing has gone wrong. Just had to do the rear pads cost me £53 for OEM still on the same tyres as when i got it
Bought my 18yr old MkII Mondeo Ghia X for £380 a year ago. Everything still works on it including all the Ghia X extras & it's passed its MoT for another year. It's in pristine condition & looks like a new car. Luxury motoring on a budget, it's also reasonable on fuel economy because it's only a 2L. Insurance is cheap too. I think getting a car on HP or lease is madness.
Rare VHS uploads hp just means you pay even more because buying the car and buying the money. Lease would only work if you can offset it against a company or part of work. If you do 3-4k a month you may as well lease
150 thousand for an xj220 you'll never see that again also the fact it depreciated that much is odd also even tho it had a v6 and not much of what was promised still a great buy tho I would love to modify one to what jaguar promised like awd the v12 and the doors and i think the top speed but you'd need a good understanding of what you were doing and alot of money and not a tonne of feeling for keeping rare cars stock but that would be an interesting project car and some achievement
735i is also much cheaper to run than the V12. Even a 728i straight six model isn't frightfully under-powered. It's not meant to be a racing car after all.
It's so they can say "hey poor person......look what I can afford when I feel like it!". I agree with you though that buying new is just throwing hard earned money away.
A Metro 6R4 engine*. The latter detail is key, rather like a Peugeot 205 Diesel vs a 205 Turbo. TWR turned a fairly everyday 3.5L Austin-Rover V6 engine, into a twin-turbocharged 550HP & 330+ lb/ft of torque producing firespitting powerhouse. (that was actually more powerful in practice than contemporary engines with twice the cylinders & liters)
nutsackmania and you sir looked like you was born in the toilet damn you Look like shit am I not allowed a opinion kid or loser whatever you are just go home you're drunk
Er, sounds like a looked after example? Probably wants the front wishbones and bushes replaced all round, most likely they would pass an MOT as is but it'll tighten the handling up a bit. Pay attention to cleaning the arches too, they love a bit of bubbling there. Think I'll be selling my one soon, running a bike was way cheaper.
Just for fun I tried to find examples of the cars Jeremy mentioned to see what they would be worth today: BMW 750: about 20k for a good one Mazda RX7: about 30k XM break: most of them have rotted away by now, but I found a few at around 1000 pounds Rover 800: 1000 or so, again if you can find one Peugeot 605: 1000 XJ 220: There are a few for sale but they don't list the prices for these. If you want to know you can't afford them...
ever since that was new i was wondering who might want one of those. i mean, granted, the top 2 engines make that quite fast (even though the base one is laughable, and the one after that is questionable), but it's never seemed attractive. it's just some car that eats oil and has weird doors.
V12's have always been a double edged sword. It's whether you by them from a studious owner or a brainless yuppie, that counts. Still: better a BMW or a Mazda, than that dull as wallpaper paste Citroen XD.
The XJ220 must give some idea of what it's like to manoeuvre an office block... From the view of filing cabinet. In reference to Clarkson referencing how the "220 is too big and the interior is too small,"
@rock3tcat soooo true, i've never wanted to own a car older than 1995, not 100% bullet proof but i like working on it, the simple fact that i can work on it is a crucial factor. i finally bought a new car in 2009, it seems like the newest car i've ever owns is constantly at the dealer for dealer only repairs. Im so glad for the extended warranty. How am i suppose to do a TCM reflash, TPMS code program, VGRS initialization, or afford a network ECU. It seems like 2004 and up, all cars are sh*t
The failure of the XJ220 is why I think the new Ford GT will be crap. Turbo V6s aren't under the hood of very many cars that are selling for more than they cost new. The McLaren F1, last Ford GT, the BMW Z8, Porsche Carrara GT and on and on and on.
The Ford GT had a rubbish engine from start to finish. It drinks fuel but has crap performance. At least the original GT40's vast engine paid off with plenty of power. The XJ220 by comparison remains a V12 slaying speed machine, being significantly faster than the quad-turbo v12 Bugatti EB110, and having repeatedly beaten the more expensive and ostensibly more powerful Pagani Zonda, in standing quarter mile races.
Mazda RX-7 best car here !!!!!! hard now though to buy a really good one for cheap. if it was back then I probably would have an RX-7 !!! my friend still has one, he has had since it was almost new. amazing cars. although he did tune his up quite a lot. lol
Having money and being intelligent are not necessarily synonymous. Plenty of stupid people have money, and vise versa, plenty of brilliant people are dirt poor.
yeah...you are right. The power to weight of a Wankel is pretty good, and they seem to rev with the ease of a sewing machine...but every 1 I've know that has had an RX7 ends up selling it when the miles add up. No matter how many times you change the oil and put synthetic in it, does not seem to matter. Reminds me of Subaru and VW/Porsche flat 4 and 6 engines...can't stand the sound of piston slap they make when the miles get to a certain point..they sound like a lawn mower.
