This is actually true, previous pug models (sporty cars) had superb suspension, unlike newer models which actually have one of the worst suspensions I have ever seen. Wonder why 307 was never driven on rally? :D
Actually now curious to know who or which group of people were behind the well regarded high performance Peugeots (along with the good handling of the regular models), presumably they must have mostly moved on to Renault at some point during the late-80s to early/mid-90s.
The funny thing is it's not inaccurate. Peugeot just realised they could make more money of bad cheap cars sold though finance initiatives than they could off making good reasonably priced cars. It's also why modern Peugeot drivers are bad drivers, they don't care about driving so they don't care about cars, so they just get the cheapest car with the best finance deals, a Peugeot.
Every french stereotype was shown in that video. Pronunciation, snails, vine, moustache, arranged mess, square plates, Eiffel Tower, accordion player in traditional dress with a blue barret (that got me the most), going excited about stupid ideas and onion, sign of country life.
According to Richard Porter (the guy next to Jeremy) they had done multiple takes of the meeting scene and they were all chugging the wine throughout filming so they were all really quite hammered by the end of it
@@tmcmagic5292 extremely so. I think porter mentioned sipping his glass constantly during and inbetween takes then having another few glasses. It was also quite hot at the time and those jumpers weren't exactly helping
He said that him and May knew that they didn't have drive for the rest of the day, so they got hammered. Also, the table had as many objects as possible placed on it so that it didn't reflect the green screen of the Eiffel Tower outside the window
I had a 1.6 litre Peugeot 306 before that which I thought was great apart from the interieur terrible! I never bonded with that 1.4 litre 206 though. You'd pull out to overtake and then pull back in again! I can't remember doing any long drives in it as I never trusted it to get me anywhere! Glad to get rid of it! The cars I've had since haven't been that much more reliable but at least they have been fun while they lasted!
Toad Rave i still have a 306 break 2.0 hdi and it is not a terrible car, in fact I think that it is a great car with a very very very reliable engine. I don't like people commenting how bad peugeot is because Thats totally false.
"this breakfast meeting..." CRACKS ME UP EVERY TIME! To think they'd have been chugging down all that wine during breakfast while making their cars "horribele" is just the funniest thing I've ever heard.
English translation: Gentlemen... the time has come for us to stop making this sporty car. My god! Sacrebleu! But what shall we do instead? Er... coat hangers? Umbrellas? How is this for a plan? We make terrible cars. In every way. Horrible. Maybe... very ugly! Oh, yes, yes, yes. And a very horrible engine! Oh, nasty, unreliable, uncomfortable. And the interior manufactured from spit and Kleenex. Spit and Kleenex! Yes, yes, yes! Yes, yes, yes! It's a good idea, isn't it? Yes? Do not look at a horse gift in the mouth. Gentlemen, toast to the horrible car! Ohhhh! And get the chief of suspension up here so we can fire him immediately! Oh, yes. This breakfast meeting will put Peugeot on the map for many years to come, make no mistake.
" Get the chef of suspension up here, so we can fire him inmediatamount" its totally real!!! my 307 have the worst peugeot suspension ever, rear axle looks terryble.
The meeting bit, from 1:02 to 2:06, took exactly one minute and four seconds end-to-end, making it possibly the shortest business meeting in the whole of human history - which is hardly surprising, because it entirely consisted of French Clarkson saying Peugeot should make rubbish cars, French James agreeing with him, and then everyone cheering in celebration.
it is true. to this day, I still miss my horrible 206. it was slow, I could barely climb the mountains in my hometown and it regularly broke down. but i love it because it was a great car for whatever reason.
+SpiderMax The 206 was the entry level car. You cannot say anything about Peugeot based on your experience with the 206. Entrey-level cars from any manufacturer can suck, like the Chrysler 200 or the Mercedes CLA 180.
Layth Alkhaer I disagree. While those cars may suck, it's the companies that suck. An entry level car should still be viable i.e. Ford Fiesta, holds at least one world record, used for rally cross obviously modified. But even the non racers are nice for their low price. Toyota carolla or Honda Accord or civic whichever, all fine cars. But these are good non cheese eating surrender monkey cars
veiga devil I remember reading in "and on that bombshell" by the script editor, Richard Porter, who was playing one of the turtlenecked Frenchman, that they did in fact have real wine and they were in fact, pretty drunk
I was vacationing in France a couple days ago and had this conversation in my head every single minute of the trip…SPIT ET KLINEX! COOOAD-ANGERS…UNKOMFOTAOBLE! FO MANY YEARS TO COME, MAKK NO MISTAKE!
monsieur engine très horrible moteur tres horrible un cadeau de cheval dans la bouche that is good monsieur of Peugeot department and division of top gear
He's a doctor of engineer, twice. also had French lessons for credits in uni. And in one of the episodes of Grand Tour, he was speaking French with the locals..
@Milan Jovanovic: I don't think he's an idiot, he's educated and a clever fucker (the idiocy is an act), his jokes while many are controversial or immature, are VERY apt, and usually based on solid truths. Think of it like South Park humour: Stupid and immature, but very, VERY apt and clever, unlike Family Guy humour which is pure brainless idiocy just for the sake of idiocy without any real brains behind it. The guys a living legend, he had to get taken off air eventually because of that.
Flavio: We need to win le race again Alonso: How, we are trying everything Flavio: WE MAKE LE VOITURE CRASH Alonso: But we lose le race Flavio: Non non non. We make Nelsinho crash. It bring out le stupide gray car. No one can do le pit. You WIN FERNANDO Alonso: OUI OUI OUI! SALUT CRASH DE LA VOITURE! LET'S CELEBRATE WITH ONION, GARLIC
They're right...Peugeot were fantastic up to the late 90s, superb handling and class leading cars. Then they became all frumpy, unreliable and poorly executed.It's only in the past few years are they getting their mojo back, the latest 208, 308 and 2008 are far better. Thank God
martin fitzpatrick agree to a point - but wtf is it with them fitting that extra small steering wheel currently? And then have the cheek to proclaim it's "providing better visibility making for better drive-ability" .. what a load of utter garbage!
ratodoesgato I know right I used to drive them for work that tiny steering wheel made it difficult to see the speedo without moving it to an uncomfortable position, but as a whole the 108, 208 and 308 are a massive improvement over their previous junk like the 206, 207 and the dreadful 307.
My car is a bordeaux 2019 Peugeot 2008 SUV. I really like it, having for me a great compromise between internal space, and exterior design - especially because my car has that "Slasher smile" grille (used on many Peugeots until late 2019) that I absolutely love!! Also, it is comfortable to drive and agile in traffic. And, my father owns a 2011 Peugeot 3008, a model like the one at 2:25 except gray, and I've driven it occasionally. It is a nice, spacious and comfortable crossover, but what I love the most is the front seats. The driving seat is so comfortable that it's like driving a living room rather than a car. Both cars had no significant reliability problems - mine is almost new so it's obvious, I guess 😅. My dad's 3008 only had replacements for normally deteriorating components (tires, lights, brake pads, and oil changes). They may not be sport cars (recently the new 3008 starred in the Dakar race, however), but they do their job superbly. Of course, it makes sense that the Top Gear boys long the most for Peugeot's 80s/90s sport heritage.
Much better. When my teacher was covering the diffeent regions of France and why they were known for, when we got to Vicky, I said "Treason!" ...she didnt gave a good look.
Glad to own a last generation 306 - even in the regular slow version you can feel that the suspension is a masterpiece, the engineers thought of quality solutions and it's shape comes from Pininfarina after all. But what followed is just pure automotive massacre in design, reliablity and prestiege.
3:01 "Your knees may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments" I can't stop laughing at this, seriously. It's one of the greatest clip made by Top Gear
5008 was not that horrific. I really want to know what the Peugeot 607 designer was on when he looked at his work and said: "Yes, this gorgeous shape will definitely allure those who are supposed to buy Audi A6, BMW 5 series or Mercedes E class!"
Actually, Clarkson is overexaggerating here. With the 3008 and 5008, Peugeot started making better better cars. The interior quality went up significantly, at least. The 308 and 508 are both decent cars, but they're simply not as good as the Opel / Vauxhall Astra and Insignia, both of which sit at the top of their class right now. The interesting thing is that Peugeot, making these inferior cars, purchased Opel recently from GM, just as it started to prosper under them. I think Peugeot will ruin Opel.
The same happened with the entire Indian automobile industry in the 80’ and the 90’s all manufactures came together and decided to sell dustbins on wheels. Cars sold here came without left side mirrors or rear seat belts just to get you started on how terrible it was. Progress till 2017 is kind of 5% better. We get ‘abs’ and ‘power steering’ stickers on our cars now.
"I am French, why do you think I have this outrageous accent? " Like the bit about "dramatic recreation using actors", seemed so realistic!! Damn I miss those guys!
I am indeed a Peugeot driver (205 so hopefully not too bad!), and I find this all very hilarious haha- I always joke about being a Peugeot driver with my mates
"APR 29.4%, subject to terms and conditions, you must be able to sign your name to have a car, your knees may be at risk if you do not keep up with repayments." 😂😂😂
Same goes for Citroen in the 90's. Allors messieurs, up till now we `ave made great voitures like le CX, la DS, le 2CV and le GS. Mais now we will fabricate automotive horreurs comme le ZX and le Xsara, which will be just as horrible comme le Chrysler/Talbot/Simca, that went bust, so that we can snatch away their former customeurs from Renault. Mais oui, tres bien, une idee excellent!
