When Goose says 'Cmon Mav, do some of that pilot shit' it is identical to what Rooster says to Mav in the new movie I just saw. The second Top Gun Mav is AAAWWSOME!!
*SPOILERS* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "We hear Maverick say a few times in the sequel, "Talk to me Goose," but I actually got misty when we heard Rooster, Goose's son, say, "Talk to me, dad" during an intense fight. I didn't see that line coming, and LOVED IT!!!! It's a small thing, but a huge thing at the same time.
best sequel movie ever, I thought they don't make movie like this anymore. But am I wrong. Me as a 35 years grow ass man, cry like a baby in the cinema
yep i watch it ...replay it over at least 50 times straight til i get unstuck...i have to pull my self out of the "zone " it puts me in....so much adrenaline!!!!!! Then I found a street fighter 2 ken vs guile champion edition scene someone put together with this song playing on kens stage while they fought......pure ...fire!!!!!! Thank God for classic..legendary .....music and creativity!!!!!
I got Michael Ironside's (Jester) autograph once at a scifi convention in London and although he plays hardnuts and badguys he was a total gentleman towards his fans, shook everyones hands and was happy to chat to people for a minuite or two and have pics taken with them. A true star.
Michael Ironside rocks! Plus, a good friend of the Late, Great Warren Zevon! Ironside provided guest vocals to Zevon’s “Run Straight Down”, along with David Gilmour on Guitar.
It's amazing how much Goose playing hype man kind of amped up every scene he was in. None of those training dog fights would have had the same energy without him.
The song playing in the background is Mighty Wings by Cheap Trick, for anyone that is wondering. It is missing most of the vocals and the guitars sound a little different than the record version, but it's my favorite song off of the Top Gun original soundtrack.
Oh yeah! I saw a documentary on this movie. That guy who played Jester was in a restaurant. He said two military guys walked up to him and asked "You were in that movie Top Gun weren't you?" and when he said yes the guy replied very angrily "We signed up because of that god-damn movie". He said it got really tense. LOL!
One of my favorite parts is when "Goose" says "We are going ballistic Mav! Go get him!" That vertical climb directly after that line was everything to me as a kid.
Actually Maverick had no reason to follow Jester below the "altitude limit" ... that limit means flying into the ground. By forcing Jester to fly into the ground, he had already won the dogfight. Outmaneuvering your enemy is still a kill even if guns and missiles aren't used.
The book "night fighter" has a similar story in it, a crew is chasing a German bomber all over England trying to get a shot at it but the German pilot is so good they can never get a shot. The fight ends with both planes diving towards the ground with the British pilot the first to decide they were too close to the ground. The German was only wrong by a few feet but at that speed it meant the end of the plane and crew. The British crew was awarded the "kill" even though not one shot was fired.
@@johnnymossville Because Jester always had a slightly bad attitude, and used the hard deck as cheap way to avoid maverick and technically not get "shot down". But Maverick didn't give a hell and still went for it.
i watched a making of TG recently and the music choice was carefully done. the music was written to have lots of accents and treble, or it would be lost against the roar of jet engines. so lots of high up on the guitar scales! heroic leads and fills!
yeah, the break manuever he pulls isnt even remotely possible in that jet. He jus brought it vertical and they shot it so it looked as if he was breaking hard to a non aviator. Its clever, but in reality if he did do that move he wouldnt of had the energy retention to do much and would fall a few thousand feet before gaining back speed., if not outright losing alltogether control of the plane. Unless he breaked and then continued the upward verticle trend, but id still imagine his airspeed would be really low. Idk, i know more about prop plane dog fighting than jet plane dogfighting tbh.
I heard that this scene in particular was shot after the choreographed scenes and the director told the pilots to just do stuff they thought would look cool on camera...and we'll, we got this!
@@profo4544 The maneuver I think would work if he hoped or if he pulled up hit the brakes and then rolled inverted instead of pushing the nose down I think that would conserve his airspeed
At 1:18 that shot was so good Tony Scott wanted you to see it again at 1:25 From a photographers standpoint, the cinematography in this film was second to none, no CGI no BS just good old fashioned golden hour lighting and composition. This film forever changed aviation films because you could actually see the aircraft in the whole and lit up well and most of the time in Top Gun they were actual DoD jets and not models except for the Flat Spin scene. Legendary.
Some of the best camera work ever put to film. If this was made today, it would have been nothing but green screen and CGI. It’s the realism that makes this a timeless classic.
0:58 "watch the mountains!" Greatest RIO ever, he was practically the co-pilot . RIP Goose 1960-1986. 2:01 and 2:09 omg the high speed film at low level !
The Tomcat is just a gorgeous beast. Such a combination of opposites in design. It's graceful and brutal, linear and blunt, beautful and frightening. In many ways it mirrors the essence of war itself. The first pilots who flew it had to edge down the rearview mirrors to begin with, since the gargantuan machine behind them intimidated them into distraction. What else can you say?
@@M1tjakaramazov Wow. I see, I thought they were just another type of Gen 4 fighter, and those three in the air were the elite-tier ones, a cut above those ones destroyed.
@@LandersWorkshop Huh? Which are you referring to? Maverick and Goose are flying a stanadrd F-14. Jester is flying a Skyhawk to simulate the fictional MiG-28
The F-14 was one of the first jets to have computer-aided controls. In the beginning, the wings were more manually adjusted. Later, a better computer automatically adjusted the wing's angle. I believe the F-14's glove vanes are manually extended or retracted.
The F-14 wasn't computer aided. Yeah the wings' angle were adjusted by computer, but that doesn't mean the whole plane's flight was controlled by computer. The F-16 and F/A-18 were the first fighters to actually feature FBW. The F-14 and F-15 were the last were the flight was purely "manual", with the flight surfaces being controlled by the pilot himself.
f 14s im pretty sure were known for being hard to control early on, didnt some famous female pilot die trying to land on a carrier in one? Yeah they were def pilot controlled. And the break manuever he pulls isnt even remotely possible in that jet. He jus brought it vertical and they shot it so it looked as if he was breaking hard to a non aviator. Its clever, but in reality if he did do that move he wouldnt of had the energy retention to do much and would fall a few thousand feet before gaining back speed., if not outright losing alltogether control of the plane. Unless he breaked and then continued the upward verticle trend, but id still imagine his airspeed would be really low. Idk, i know more about prop plane dog fighting than jet plane dogfighting tbh. And if u were to try that type of move in a prop fighter all ur energy would be gone and you would have to fall conciderably to gain it back, the positive of it is youll probably ditch ur enemy.
@@profo4544 Kara Hultgren, one of the first 2 female f14 pilots. In her case though she just made a mistake that became fatal when she didn't follow the NATOPS. The F14's with the newer engines could do high AOA maneuvers ,but to my knowledge it was the engines that were sensitive and would flame out if you tried in the older ones.
I was always under the impression that the Hard Deck just meant that he couldn't engage below 10,000ft, didn't mean they couldn't pursue or out manoeuvre each other below the hard deck. I assumed that the plan was to see what the pilots could do and test/improve their skills, then when the time is right, go above 10,000ft to provide the opportunity to make the kill.
I worked with Tony before he passed away on Unstoppable. Worked as a production assistant for a few days, then an extra in the final scenes when they save the train Awesome to watch and a great sense of humor. Rest well, Tony...😔
Hard to believe the sequel has aerial footage that makes this seem like amateur hour in comparison. Both of these films redefined film making. Amazing stuff.
Not the best, though one should remember that we were still in the Cold War and footage was in limited supply. Besides, it still has more high-altitude footage than the sequel and a better plot.
Everybody talks about Mighty Wings being underrated, and it very much is...but what's really underrated is the A-4 Skyhawk. Seriously, that little thing is awesome.
When this movie came out, I was in the navy and had spent allot of time on flight decks around F-14's and many other navy jets. Even though my friends and I thoroughly enjoyed this movie, we still had a tendency to dissect it and point out everything they did wrong. When Jester said the A-4 was smaller, faster, and more maneuverable.... we were like... Uh, no sir. The A-4 is NOT faster than a Tomcat. Not even close. Smaller, definitely. A Tomcat is huge. More maneuverable.... depends on who's driving. Faster? Not a chance. In a dog fight like these, the Tomcat would leave the "Scooter" in it's wake. Don't get me wrong. We loved the movie and still do. We were just airplane nerds. I did the same thing with Maverick. The new one is awesome by the way.
I'm not questioning your credentials but this film was filmed on navy ships with service members and active duty personal on set. How did the military advisors get it wrong? Was it just a Hollywood thing ignoring facts to make the movie seem cool?
@@dontcare7086 Um, yeah. They wanted it to look cool. That was the whole point. Flying jets isn't as much fun as you see in the movie ya know. And no hot 80s rock music.
@@dontcare7086 it was just Hollywood doing Hollywood stuff. Don't get me wrong, it was a great movie and the new one is even better. 99% of the people that watched it would never know any of these things were wrong. Like I said, I'm just an airplane nerd that spent some time in the navy so I tend to pick things apart. "Oh, they didn't do this right"... and "that right there would have never happened that way". It's not necessarily a good habit to have. My wife, daughter and Pastor all took me to Imax last week to see it. Afterwards, I mentioned that I thought there was very little in the movie that Hollywood got wrong and only airplane nerds like me would even notice. My pastor told me in his very pastor like way to basically shut up and keep it to myself LOL
To be fair...in some situations a smaller, nimble, lighter, less powerful aircraft can more than hold its own against a larger, more specialised fighter. In the UK, the USAF used to practice with their F-15s against the RAF Tornado F3s and Hawk T1s. In BVR mode, the F15 and F3 were pretty even as both had decent radar and AMRAAM. However close in the F15 was superior to the F3. The Hawk T1s though, caused the F-15s all sorts of problems. .
What I love even more than this movie is how everyone in the comments feels the exact same way about it that I do. There's something special about these movies
This material got Tom Cruise a navy fighter pilot award for the work that he created allowing the navy to learn new skills and be the way they are today.
I saw this when it first came out while I stationed in Augsburg Germany. Me and a friend were on a run down in Berchsgarden drinking Czechoslovakian budwieser. This film was a great boost to moral at a time when we in the armed forces where in peaceful times. The wall in Germany had not come down yet and the threat of the cold war was still eminent. I still have great memories about those times, the 80's rocked..........God I'm getting old. Proud to serve US. ARMY Military Police1981-89
I was a crew chief on F-4C Phantoms in England and made a range mission in the back seat of my aircraft while TDY at Decimomannu Air Base, Sardinia. After that a little air combat tactics over the Med. Made my 4 years in the USAF worth every minute. SHITHOT !
280StJohnsPl The pilot I flew with on that ride and all the aircrews in our squadron were Vietnam combat aircrews with most having time over the NorthThey knew their shit, learned in combatGreat guys....we crew chiefs respected them and truly liked them as well
Jester, my favorite tough guy!! Michael Ironside never disappoints in any of his roles as the quintessential tough guy-bad guy!! ( Jester in " Top Gun" or in " Total Recall")
This movie is such a classic. One that will never get old. They unfortunately don't make movies like this anymore. That is the sad thing about hollywood. "TOP GUN" Rocks!!!!
Top Gun was absolutely ridiculous but we all still enjoyed it!! Nothing in this clip is realistic yet it was a blast to watch!! Hope Top Gun: Maverick is factual and realistic but with the entertainment factor of the original!!
@@Tigershark_3082 Errr... believe it or not, i don't remember to write the post above...!! :P And i can't remember, what the hell is an "A-4F Super fox"!!
I was 11 when this movie came out. As much as people appreciate Top Gun 2 "Maverick"...Unless you were born when the original came out...You can't possibly understand how LARGER THAN LIFE this movie became, especially once it came out on VHS. (The "Streaming Service" of our time...Even DVD is "old" so that should tell you something.) Because of Top Gun, for about five years after its release...Fighter Pilots were bigger than pro-athletes. No joke. If you were an aviator, especially a Naval Aviator, you got more pu$$y than a gynecologist.
And what's more interesting is, Goose says in the bar scene that he'd be happy to find a girl to talk dirty to him. Looks like Goose wasn't exactly husband of the year material. There's a pretty good chance he was just running his mouth like guys do when they're out with their buddies, but you never know.
@@DV_Dark_Jedi Prolly the second part lol. Goose wasn't exactly a "Chad" type. Although Naval Aviators, especially back then got plenty of attention from vvomen in military towns/bases/port cities. And after Top Gun came out, OMFG, if you were ANY kind of pilot, let alone a fighter pilot, you were like an NBA player lol.
Even if this is a horribly inaccurate representation of these two jets' actual flight characteristics, BFM and ACM, it still never ceases to be entertaining and one of my favorite movies ever.
Well the F-14 is actually incredibly maneuverable. Not even “just for its size”, flat out it’s a maneuverable aircraft. And the A-4 is VERY maneuverable. It has a 720 degree per second roll rate, which is incredibly high. So if the planes look “too maneuverable”, it’s not entirely the case. Sure there’s some clever camera work, but the Tomcat and Skyhawk were both very maneuverable.
Just saw Top Gun Maverick at the cinema. Gets a solid 9/10. Would've gotten a 10 if it wasn't for a couple of cheesy lovey moments hahaha....seriously though, go watch it, people. Feel the need for speed. It's a great film 👌
@pacometaco22 Actually the A-4's used by NWFS had engine upgrades which gave them a higher thrust to weight ratio. For example, A-4's equipped as such could accelerate while climbing; the F-14 couldn't. This can be a critical factor in ACM because higher thrust/weight ratio gives more maneuverability.
2:00 to 2:04 is the coolest thing....you lose the perspective of the plane's forward motion, and it looks like the plane rolls to the right without really flying.... fantastic aerial footage throughout this whole movie
Actually I think that big dynamic looking twisty spin roll the tomcat does is a condition called inertial coupling , meaning the axial roll creates yaw and so the nose does not keep straight but swirls around like a spinning top. The tom w 2 widely spaced engines and wide body was prone to this. The plane is literally out of control to a degree here.
I love this movie. It actually inspired me when I was racing touring cars...in some of my races when I'm on the attack, closing in on the car ahead, I would always think of this scene and tell myself "Here's my chance, it's a big one!...I got you now!" before I'd pass for the lead and the win. LOL
What does it say about a trainer who instead of trying to outfly him decides to use the rules in his favor and run for the hard deck. I would have called him out on it.
@KrosanBeast315 The F-14s VG wings were always full automatic, the flight control system and the airspeed data automatically determined the best wing sweep angle for the give flight profile. The pilot can always manually override the system incase of a failure. On the ground the control of the wing angle is fully manual by the pilot, there is even an over swept position for when the aircraft is parked up to save space. The glove vanes were fully automatic, but were deleted on later F-14s.
