TOP USELESS ULTIMATES FOR VALENTINA

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@sopowx Год назад

Popol Skill Name: We Are Angry! Valentina Users Copying his Ult: *same dude*

@xolymor Год назад

Lylia's ult is the most useful one imo. You can dive in and out in just ease.

@Shaggybangs Год назад

Lylia can do the same but ya as a lylia main i hate valentina

@derangeddroid4911 Год назад

didn’t know lyilia could do the same

@xavirik4828 Год назад

Lylia can't burst like Val

@xavirik4828 Год назад

And the pros have been using it alot too.

@Shaggybangs Год назад

@@derangeddroid4911 that's what the point is 🗿 🗿

@wood4948 Год назад

Lylia's ult would probably be one of the best steals tho. You can even flicker in and turret dive and just get out with the ult. (It even feels badass) In addition you wouldn't have to waste your item slots for defensive items as you can just regain the HP back.

@alanparadox3041 Год назад

Dont forget argus ult to waste all of enemy skills

@Monkey_Luffy01 Год назад

Also Atlas, set with Damage. We all know that Mage Atlas has so High Damage.

@izumeoww Год назад

Atlas and Faramis are best.

@doodoo7207 Год назад

For me , yve . You can use every 30s while normal yve is 60+,s

@acousticmeatus8141 Год назад

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@dimasnaufalpratama4812 Год назад

I beg to differ for lylia. I always prioritise to steal her ult so I can dive tower and their backline easily and just hit ult to reposition and save myself.

@stellar1463 Год назад

Before one of the best ulti are wanwan and minotaur. Now you have to charge too to use the ulti of mino. This are one of the disadvantages if you pick valentina early. You'll get useless ultis

@Kekwkw Год назад

the nerf those shit but dint buff the rest of the ult steal from other hero to be usable

@g4bri3l. Год назад

@@Kekwkw she doesn't really need any ultimate buff, she's literally already op even without an ult

@paracame8162 Год назад

@@g4bri3l. her being op doesn't come from her other skills, it's from her passive giving her insane heals. her last nerf made her very easy to kill

@Meteor-ThunderBears Год назад

@@paracame8162 She has double dash and confusion with skill 1, paired with ice queen wand will give her another slow effect. What makes her so easy to kill again?

@paracame8162 Год назад

@@Meteor-ThunderBears she can't use confusion if she can't use her dash twice in the early game. her confusion has a very short duration. she's very vulnerable against most fighters with a gap closing skill and any mage with easy stun + gap creation abilities, e.g. Eudora, Aurora, Yve, Valir she also struggles to come back if she gets outfarmed in the early game since her passive heal only works if her level isn't lower than the enemy. Valentina's only a major threat if your team has an amazing ult, struggles in the early game, or if it's the late game and everyone's the same level

@aloevi4850 Год назад

If Joy comes out, she would also be on the list because if she uses Joys Ult, it will probably only be 1 gem instead of 4

@VeuTrox Год назад

I don't think valentine can even use Joy's ult in the 1st place since it needs 4 stacks of Joy's 2nd skill dashes for it to activate

@dragnasylvarion8854 Год назад

its the same condition to wanwan all over again

@czarinalorza 9 месяцев назад

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@Alexis1920i Месяц назад

no it's based of how many stacks the joy has ex- Joy has 3 stacks meaning Valentina copying her ult gets 3 stacks

@rvdoesyoutube Год назад

Popol is the worst copy out there 💀

@hambburrger Год назад

Let's be honest, Lylia ult is actually super useful.

@Proxipie41 Год назад

Imagine picking Mino/Belerick roam, Gusion jungle, Harith mid, Wanwan/Popol gold, and Alice/Sun exp against Valentina.

@deadshades4546 Год назад

Then you can still use belericks ult while ganking gold or some other solo/duo heroes

@lhandelpamisa0 Год назад

Gussion ult is useful too i always steal gussion ult for fast ganking and for escape

@Rhe-73 Год назад

Another one that wasnt so useful to copy is kagura's ult. Its just a knockback with a small area and also need to get close to enemy to have effect, while the damage is not so high. And so yea, i think (also from my experience) kagura could be a counter for valentina, since she has high damage and could either poke or burst valentina, while also outrange valen's skills. Hope it might help if you go against valentina and wondering what to use to counter her.

@Carlos-sy8hz Год назад

I'll def check that out

@DarkPhoenix2918 Год назад

I have a question about copying wanwan's ult, the moment that you copy it but didn't press it again (before you become wanwan also), you would still deal true dmg right? or not?

@xanecosmo5061 Год назад

Sun's clone isn't entirely useless. There was a time when my team wasn't destroying the enemy base. We won because I copied Sun's ultimate and pushed by myself.

@continentalextinction Год назад

@bird invincibility you mean, invisibility is like Aamon's second skill

@MrDeerbomb 9 месяцев назад

@@continentalextinction tbf it's both invisibility and invincibility lol

@eljae_kun Год назад

If Gusion's cooldown reset from his ult actually get applied to Valentina's other abilities it would actually be way useful.

@theresivy Месяц назад

both angela and vexana are in a special case wherein you need to pick them last, depending on either ur team or opposing roster

@hasanmuttaqin464 9 дней назад

dumbass in enemy team picked angela first, both me and second player rush for esme

@FRLAZone2018 8 месяцев назад

later minotaur no longer have rage, so valentina can use ultimate without the need of rage anymore

@i_am_kaede Год назад

gusion's ult is pretty useful imo since it acts more of a free flicker that is longer and has lower cd, you can use it to get closer in an instant for an easy combo and use the second phase to escape

@andreicatabay901 Год назад

Not really cause valentina's skill had a low cd .

@Jays_MotionLess Год назад

I have no idea why it doesn't reset the cooldown of Valentina's skills when in Hyper Blend it work with every other heroes, it even resets your original Ult cooldown

@dani3lloh Год назад

@@andreicatabay901 the range from the ult is still far enough + if I rmbr u get fusions passive

@i_am_kaede Год назад

@@Jays_MotionLess hyper blend skills are separate from the original skills, as they were probably adjusted to work on all heroes that are enabled in the gamemode

@Jays_MotionLess Год назад

@@i_am_kaede You see, the logic is that it works on all heroes, and it's not a separate skill that will work differently depending on the hero You get what you get for that chosen skill Then it should also work on Valentina, and she wouldn't be that OP if they ever make it work, tbh With Gusion's Ult, it'll only resets her basic skills Still it'd be nice to do the 1-2-1-2-1 combo twice with that

@-softarxhie- Год назад

Hello Hororo welcome to the Philippines hope you would enjoy and have fun in our country, didn't expect that you would come as a Filipino viewer for few years so Yeah "Mabuhay, And Mahal Ka Namin" ❤️🇵🇭

@vivaleroca7511 Год назад

Replace Lylia or Sun with Angela. Lylia allows you to dive, while Sun allows you to decoy or push. Angela is just... a shield for a teammate. Similar to Carmilla inside Cecilion. Also, I want a list of very useful ults. My personal favorite is Balmond and Vale.

@trustedsource7774 Год назад

Nah, Angela ult is somewhat useful with right mindset, you basically have a free arrival onto your teammate so you can respo fast wherever you are + they get extra shield for it.

@MrDeerbomb 9 месяцев назад

Angela's ult is good tho what are you talking about. You can join team fight faster with that, even surprising enemies because they don't expect the shield or your presence

@GuineveresRoses Год назад

Some people usually copy they're ults cuz of the expensive skins they have.. Also what is up with people wanting to be first- You don't win anything-

@onlymoon1 Год назад

I agree with all of these! I’m a Valentina main and when you get to experience it in a game, you’ll be confused when the ult did not work as you’d thought.

@bagusharrysahputra2203 Год назад

I think lylia's ult still pretty useful tho

@onlymoon1 Год назад

@@bagusharrysahputra2203 her’s is definitely useful when you want to secure kill and turrent dive. other than that, it doesn’t do much dmg to the enemy

@FlareDB Год назад

I kinda like Gusion'e ult, because she can use for escaping him and avoiding his combo

@Mocha-ux4vi Год назад

And also Eudora since you cannot activate the 2nd phase.

@eobardzolomon2381 Год назад

Some Ult can be useful in chasing an enemy or escaping the battlefield tho but yeah its useless because you can't use it to attack an enemy

@ngrooo Год назад

Also make video on top ultis she can use .. useful for newbies

@cf870 Год назад

La rage del mino copia no sube con golpear Minions o personajes como el normal?

@mahmoudsherif6459 Год назад

For julian point it counts on Julian if used the first and the second and you ult him before he used his third you will take the improved one that with knock up Same to shafir when he have the passive you will get the improved one Knew it from game against vail

@riyukusuda6182 Год назад

For me the most useful ones are Estes for healing, Yve for Zoning, and Yin for kidnapping my enemies 😂 As long as I am at the same level or higher than them, Valentina becomes a fighter than a mage all of a sudden

@demonslayer4951 Год назад

Yve almost useless. Few stack is like nothing

@riyukusuda6182 Год назад

@@demonslayer4951 I don’t aim the stacks when using Valentina, I use the 7x7 to zone objectives and to create a bigger area for teamfight. I don’t apply the same mechanics when using Yve when I use Valentina.

@stellar1463 Год назад

@@demonslayer4951 Useless? So the pro scenes are dumb sh*ts for stealing yves ultimates lol

@parrotx_ 22 дня назад

If you 1v1 with Valentina you'll just die

@icadm Год назад

sun ult is ok for immune, and lylia? the best ult since you can burst the backline and go back with lylia ult

@rvdoesyoutube Год назад

I think worst is a better word than useless since some of this at least provides a bit of utility

@Jays_MotionLess Год назад

Valentina main here It excites me to pick Valentina whenever she's open but afraid to pick her too early and get countered by useless ultis And I really love to counter her with Cecilion and Kagura whenever the enemy managed to get her Also one thing about Gusion's ult I think the developers forgot to adjust how it works on Valentina because I remember using it in Hyper Blend and it resets all your other skills when you use Gusion's ult, and that is with every hero you can pick with

@MrDeerbomb 9 месяцев назад

You should read gusion's ult properly. It's actually written on the ult that it'll reset the cd of 1st and 2nd skills. So, the reset is not exclusive for gusion only

@Jays_MotionLess 9 месяцев назад

@@MrDeerbomb Bro, this was 10 months ago But I do remember stealing Gusion's ult before making this comment and it doesn't reset her skills Hence, why I said they must have forgot to adjust on his ult when used by other heroes because it works properly on Hyper Blend but not on a normal game

@Jays_MotionLess 9 месяцев назад

@@MrDeerbomb Okay, I just tested it again in Hero Training mode it Gusion's ult still doesn't reset Valentina's skills when used My comment still checks out It only works on Hyper Blend mode, go see it for yourself

@simplestain6409 Год назад

Please do a video for best ultimate steals for valentina too.

@jenjenhocho3188 Год назад

Hey Hororo, how's your trip? You finished unpacking yet?

@hazy.9851 Год назад

honestly as a Valentina main I think any ultimate but popol is useful(perhaps basic attakcs can be good with mm build but I don't really think so)

@hazy.9851 Год назад

I also think tank Valentina is more viable than mage Valentina lately

@knox9739 Год назад

Is popol a good counter?

@hazy.9851 Год назад

@@knox9739 well I'd say you can have some advantage if Valentina doesn't have argus ult because Valentina can't burst you easily because her 2. Skill will focus both you and your wolf and perhaps you can burst her with popol because she will be stunned and now that she has low life steal

@hazy.9851 Год назад

Event Clint ulti is useful if you stack it before team fight

@jon13ful Год назад

Eudora’s ult is nothing without her passive superconductor and her 2nd skill that reduces magic def

@ianneo4322 Год назад

But can still be good at finishing off enemies who are low so, not entirely useless

@apexlegend9989 Год назад

Sometime my random teammates they're too much focus at valen whenever I playing rank solo and dont have counter for other heroes

@esmondgoh3112 Год назад

Meanwhile best ults that are acknowledged are Estes, Floryn, Faramis(but not Angela tho). I personally like copying Karina and Vexana's ult. Ultimates like Tigreal and Atlas are great, but you'll need to use flicker as your battle spell to fully use it to its maximum potential. Heroes with morph ults are also kind of ok-ish (you'll need to know how to use those heroes and have high magic power), heroes like Selena, Roger, Lapu-Lapu, Edith. Also, Valentina can't use Hanzo's first skill if you return to the body early

@czarinalorza 11 месяцев назад

I mostly use Valentina in ranked games. She is so useful. I often use her as a support. My favorite role is mage btw

@junjunjun5084 Год назад

Can valentina copy new hero joy's ult without any restrictions?

@theyusane668 Год назад

Lylia is probably one of my favorite copies and gusion can be used as an escape skill because it has 2 dashes

@amoycadaverine21 Год назад

we had a match one time where the enemy first pick valentina. with our team being the second pick, i try to convince our other team mates to use heroes that cant be useful for valentina. as i was the roamer i picked freddrin and our jungler was hanzo. valentina couldnt even do anything useful throughout the match lol.

@fendy2704 Год назад

Can u do yss bug skill 2 ?

@beansfs 19 дней назад

Alpha is also one of the bad ones I mean it's good for a finish move but if you use the move and it doesn't findin someone its done for you the only thing you can is run with skill 2 and yeah the drones that deal more and more drones appear it's only when you use skill 1 and 2 with aplha

@mrshadow5552 Год назад

I like using valentina but she's either banned or so bad as a first pick in rank as enemy would just pick heroes with useless ults

@mikuuisfluffy16 Год назад

Have fun in the Philippines Hororo!

@worldmen7 Год назад

I mean you can use sun ult to 1. Immune CC skills 2.small distraction

@ahmadhamidi5560 Год назад

harith is actually a good counter pick against valen. i instantlocked him when i saw enemy auto lock valen. i have faster early clear than her, and her stealing my ult was hilarious as heck

@AnnieFE Год назад

La ulti de Clint tampoco es recomendable; cuando trate de usarla, creo que ni 1 bala cargada había, debía esperar el CD de los stacks y para entonces ya se había acabado el tiempo de la ulti de Valentina jaja

@phanna9775 Год назад

Minotaur ult can be used quite effectively as long as you steal it mid fight, at ult level 3 you get the other half of the rage bar by channeling it which allows her to use enhanced fury without being exposed to danger

@Badget007 Год назад

In the new patch as long as you still mino ult before your team forces a clash, you can stack up the rage first before going for the setup. Problem is the set is kinda meh but you get immune to cc

@dubanburgoscordoba8547 Год назад

Hey hororo and what about guinevere ult Her ult is so so useless for Valentina i already test it

@vn9777 Год назад

Alice ult can be used well if you have enhanced tailsmen.

@reoshikumo135 Год назад

Nope it still drains quick because Alice ult cost lot of mana in late game now while Valentina mana is just the same as before.

@alanparadox3041 Год назад

@@reoshikumo135 yeah i agree, alice have in-build mana regen and valentina does not

@knox9739 Год назад

@@alanparadox3041 especially Alice passive

@RhenzRusselGalpo 4 дня назад

This video is 1 year ago all of this bugs are fixed since now

@YFDXD Год назад

Also all ults with stacks like hayas for example are useless. Valentina's main problem is her 1st 2nd skill can kill you if you are a squishy and she sustains alot. Her ult is just a way to outplay but not so op

@MrDeerbomb 9 месяцев назад

Haya's ult is useful. The stacks are there just to prioritize which enemy that's attacked first and some additional but kinda insignificant damage. The stacks don't add to the total hits of the ult. You can still use it to finish off enemies or just plain invincibility

@dustinhaha9555 Год назад

Well for wanwan yes it sucks you cant insta ult anymore but its not realy that hard to activate it since all of valentina skill can also hit the mark

@kadita-legendarysevenspear4533 Год назад

Copying Lylia Ult is op, bc like you said „you can save yourself“

@loliPOPzicles Год назад

Gusion's ult is useful against himself tho, once he dashes towards, blink to his back with Gusion's ult and perform your combo. In teamfights, it allows Valentina to reposition herself and probably hit more targets away from cc appliers in the middle of the fight and into the backlines.

@redhabenaissa5141 8 месяцев назад

I think the best is kaja ult, you can dash to the enemy ult him then dash back

@inser3882 Год назад

gusion ult is fun asf to use for combos and surprise attacks

@mitsunoseikaku2597 Год назад

if I remember correctly before popol got released in official, his ult would insta summon kupa if he's dead

@fashlimakarim6757 Год назад

Gusion's dash, Lylia's HP reset, and Sun's temporary invincible are still useful

@aymenbhl2104 Год назад

I think mino's ult us usefull , just copy his ult when his rage is almost full bar

@ragnarok5652 Год назад

I play in classic using valentina and met a team that consist those heroes mentioned and i'm just "oh well, shit"

@arinrayscumdump Год назад

stealing Alice's ult isn't so bad, you just have to adjust your build if you are planning to steal her ult throughout the game, stealing Julian's ult is useful if you stole it while he's in enhanced mode.

@ledinhnhan6415 Год назад

Actually, belerick ult and vengeance it's quite a good combo though

@LeTzPlaY100 Год назад

2:14 can someone help me understand why Kagura isn't a top prio mage in tournaments despite the fact that it's a good answer against valentina, the most contested mage? I think the top contested ones are *faramis, valentina, yve, xavier, lylia, pharsa.* Out of these mages, the only one she'll probably have a hard time against is faramis and lylia. But people like picking lolita against Faramis lineups anyway and kagura works well with any good setup tank. On the other hand, Fanny or Dyrroth could cover for a Lylia pick. But yes, the problem with all those meta mages is that Valentina could take advantage of their ult. And seeing that Valentina is a prio pick for all teams, I don't see why teams don't pick Kagura to counter. Most teams seem to still like picking Faramis even though she could take Faramis ult.

@MimiX28191 Год назад

I think it's with nanas ult too bc u can dodge nanas ult

@mallariquielzedric806 Год назад

I agreee

@Paladin_Leeroy Месяц назад

Helcurt ult doesn't do much for her since she can't make use of his passive. But the blind is nice ig. Idk if she can even use Hanzo ult though.

@xMomoee Год назад

Agreed with all EXCEPT Lylia.

@buzzifivegaming6005 Год назад

I remember when alice ult mana consumption wasn't as big and valentina was op with it now she's just pitiful

@Rob-he7yv Год назад

Valentina can copy WanWan she just need to hit enemy so they get marked this works without even. Transforming into wanwa

@user-nf1bz3sn4z Год назад

moonton nerfed wanwan ultimate. So it would be very long to cast it

@Rob-he7yv Год назад

@@user-nf1bz3sn4z she is still strong mm

@gameboyish Год назад

and valir ult is great for defensive play

@pandapesek7496 Год назад

The entire video Valentina laughed "hahaha" even she copied useless ulti

@mizansyarony7035 Год назад

Use belerick ulti and immediatly use winter truncheon

@continentalextinction Год назад

it cancels your ult

@TBs.P_FOG-SP Год назад

Nice

@eight-crimsonleaf7015 Год назад

Hey guys. Do you experience about the Natalia bug wherein there is no indicator if she is near

@herdiansyah9982 Месяц назад

Maybe in future, just maybe, revamp valentina would be able to copy all her opponent skill. It's not that overpower ability

@ezyle1717 Год назад

Well if the enemy Gusion is using the Dimension Walker skin, I'd still copy his ult

@markfaites Месяц назад

as a wanwan main... hell. yeah.

@jepstark5103 Год назад

I think the ulti should copy 100% with enemy equipment, skill,passive. She just become a perfect copy heroes until cancel or duration is finish

@starryskyhighway9628 Год назад

I like to pick valentina and hoping teammate will pick hero that need CCed to stop them...for example alucard without tanky or hard cc can dominate hard...no anti heal will make alucard can even solo 1v4...and someone need to stop it...but i guess they dont want to play that and pick average heroes

@SamSodapop01 Год назад

Actually Gus ult is great for escaping/chasing the enemy or even good at surprise attack and close combat

@alanparadox3041 Год назад

Gus ult is actually great to dive near the enemy without using her s2 to go in which really helps her to 'fear' lock the enemy

@SamSodapop01 Год назад

@@alanparadox3041 exactly

@nightshade777 Год назад

Argus too lol i fought a lot of valentina’s here in mythic rank and just me alone even if she has my ultimate her damage is still not as strong as Argus passive and her heal is weak since she does not have attack speed

@alanparadox3041 Год назад

Actually, she would still get healing from argus ult from her skills. On top of her in-build life steal, argus ult is incredibly useful to get back to full health in an instant. Only works on heroes tho

@justanordinaryclubman7633 Год назад

Valentina seeing an enemy argus:NOICE 👌

@ejoltz4915 Год назад

Half of these ults are useful if you build her right Instead of last patches building her 45% cd with 4 tank items I now build her situationally

@OSTCarmine Год назад

You missed Hilda. I don't think Val can build up the stacks required for best use. Same with Brosky

@xanecosmo5061 Год назад

She could get the stacks before they changed Hilda.

@thenamtiddies7126 Год назад

Tbh gusion's ult is not useless It's very useful since first dash is long as hell So you can dash away or displace yourself

@odyseuslorenzo8379 Год назад

Important for me, thanks

@austintgod9621 Год назад

Lylia's ult depends on the situation....but its better to just steal other better ultimates.

@AscenderGrey66 Год назад

There are some little bittle usefulness but the top 1 useless ult to copy is hariths

@rolandopovis6187 Год назад

There are a lot more of weak ultimates for Valentina. Eudora, Baxia, Paquito, Lesley, Layla, Aldous (handy vision but not damage or hard CC), Miya, Terizla, Hayabusa, Aamon, Saber, and many more heroes

@TheDarrenEternal Год назад

I main support so if I'm fighting against a Valentina I always pick Rafaela, it's not a useless ult, just not one people rely on a lot

@nunyogiyogi4665 Год назад

oh nahhh lylia's is super useful. im a lylia main and i fought against a really good valentina who always camped just to steal my ult and we had a really hard time facing her. i stayed behind so she can't reach me and we managed to win the game.