Toriel's Dark, Disturbing Past! Undertale Theory | UNDERLAB 

Poor Toriel! Having to deal with her traumatic past all while spooky music plays must suck. What do you think? Is Toriel innocent, or does she have a sinister side? If you particularly enjoyed this episode, please like the Reddit post! www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/6coaqe/toriels_dark_disturbing_past_undertale_theory/

I never thought Toriel was keeping me prisoner. Was she obsessive and overprotective, maybe. One thing that I will say about Toriel is that I think she's reclusive from other monsters, and she certainly doesn't want to be found by Asgore. I think maybe she wants to ignore the war between monsters and humans and just live in her own little bubble where she can find and care for fallen humans that she can reflect the love of her lost children on. She admits that one reason she wants to keep you is because of her loneliness, but she's willing to put that aside when you want to leave. However, she's become so isolated and reclusive that she doesn't follow you - except in a Pacifist route - and she tells you to never come back, probably because you can't enter the ruins the same way you left them. However, she DOES make Sans promise that he will protect and watch over you, so yes, it's not as selfish as you're saying. I think she's just reclusive with other monsters.

She already has a dark past with her kids both dying!

Now now, Toriel is a wonderful monster and ever so motherly. I enjoyed the long talk I had with her. She taught me the many uses for snails and how to best groom my beard.

Ever since my first playthrough I saw Toriel this way. She doesn't know you but starts to get possessive and oddly sweet. The moment she wouldn't let you leave I knew she didn't 'love' you because she's the greatest person ever. Still, even before I knew of her past with Asriel and Chara, I always took pity on her. She clearly only wants company and isn't spiteful.

Hmm. While I find everything to be entertaining and somewhat educational, it's been explained in-game that the Ruins was the entrance, or palace, of the old Monster City of Home. The traps that were made were made by the plethora of monsters that resided there, as a first line of defense against humans that might follow the monsters underground, so that they might be slowed down, or even killed. Froggits and whimsuns now inhabit the ruins, but you must remember the ruins' name. THE RUINS. It's a ruin of a place that used to exist, now littered with leaves, cracks, plants, and a bunch of the monster equivalents of wildlife, including but not limited to froggits, whimsuns, and even some snails. The Ruins were once a capital called Home before the monsters moved farther in, establishing towns in Snowdin and Waterfall, and establishing a second permanent capital at New Home. Since the door to the ruins have been closed, no one has visited Old Home since at least Chara and Asriel died, since briefly after that, Toriel left and sealed the door behind her to never be found. But in conclusion, the traps were very likely NOT built by Toriel, or Froggits/Whimsuns either. but instead the whole of the Monster Race before moving further underground and abandoning their first city of Home.

not that I believe this but what if on a slightly off chance she got flowey to agree to attack you while she comes in and saves the day

I'm happy about how well this turned out. Every character has an evil side, so why shouldn't toriel? I want to see the community response to this.

Well, it was obvious... She attacked us for wanting to leave a place that we never agreed to stay... She literally kidnap us... I think it is canon.

yeah what would've happen if frisk never left that should be in a theory video how many lives would've been affected if frisk never left the ruins

8 Of her children died. Poor women. The worst part is that Toriel is going to live forever since Asriel died.

posted 59 seconds ago lol, last time I was this early war between humans and monsters still wasn't a thing

6:54 She actually killed me once. The game glitched and i was killed by toriel. :(

I seem to remember the spike trap not being able to hurt you if you go back to it. Perhaps Toriel designed it so that it would only look intimidating.

0:45 is very creepy

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She's just as bad as Asgore, if not worse as she didn't do anything to improve the situation or even stop him, she just hid away and waited for it all to be over with the odd distraction of humans falling down and her attempts to keep them with her and a...limited amount of entertainment. | 3:15 - Kidnapping, as she tries to stop them from leaving. | 5:00 - It's later found that one is basically Asperger's Skeletor and mostly harmless, one is psychotic, yet doesn't have any personal reason (to her) to hunt down humans, the other has his hands tied and would rather not fight, if he had the option. | 7:00 - She's trapped by her own fear of leaving, what can you expect from someone who is more of a coward than that "whelp" she walked out on? She's also a hypocrite and irresponsible. Asgore may have some up with a bad plan, but it was the best that was available. Asgore sinned for selfless reasons, Toriel sinned for selfish reasons.

5:10 you know Toriel says different things depends on how she is killed: neutral route, genocide route and an off guard kill.

*buT THAT'S JUST A THEORY*

6:25 and in the end of the neutral route if Toriel is spared, then Sans hangs out with Toriel giving her new books.

6:20 I think Toriel gives the protagonist snail pie, because Toriel looks like a goat looking monster, people say that goats eat anything, wait is Frisk an anything.

I have Something important to Say. If We keep Walking down the stairs, Toriel Will come and get you Away from there. Every time, She comes with excuses. One of them, is "There is dusty down here. You Will catch a cough" and the Toys She gives us is Also dusty. There might be more Secrets We dont want to Know...

Children, that's why chara killed themselves, to escape the deadly wrath of toriel

I feel like toriel just wants some company in the ruins and tries so hard to make you stay... and also she just wants to keep you safe from asgore

Toriel is extremely hypocritical. She tells Asgore that he could've gone to the surface and gotten the human souls, but SHE could've done that! Basically Toriel is too cowardly to save the underground herself, but is very quick to judge Asgore for trying to do the same.

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Huh. I am not late. I should say something. Something. What? Did you expect something funny? Soz kid but I am no funny. Hoi! How is everyone? (Also, nice theory!)

0:37 who else was expecting him to say, "An Undertale Theory?"

And if she really cared. I think she would at least answer the phone calls, instead of leaving us to die like she did to her own husband. I saw him commiting suicide, damnit... Before I used to love Toriel...but now I've been realizing some stuff...don't really know what to think of her anymore...

Toriel is not insane! She is just crazy overprotective and scared because she knows what happens to the humans that *she* allowed to leave the ruins. *She* feels the guilt because she thinks it is her fault that those innocent humans were dying when, truthfully, it wasn't. At that point, she was willing to do anything to keep Frisk, or any other human, safe. Including not giving them the option to leave and preventing them from leaving at any cost.

But I love Toriel. She made me and my gal some cinnamon butterscotch pie and she loves hugs!

Also she is a Snailmurderer >:(

“She never kills us” I died to her once lol

Of course, Froggits and Vegetoids didn't make the puzzles....Whisums did

4:56 that doge tho

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7:54 Do not forget that this was the former capital, and as we see later on that dangerus puzzles, or at least cenerios that could be fixed are quite common even in areas like hotland, so it might as well be the only remenicence of it being the old capital.

There’s also Flowey, who may have been residing in the ruins, though he isn’t exactly the type of person/flower you’d want to converse with, at least, not by the time Undertale takes place

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goat mama's the best don't you dare say she's evil I'm just joking, this was a good theory

The room under renovations is ASGORE'S ROOM

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Let's *NOT* show this to Mairusu......

I always thought that monsters had a different psychology, meaning they would behave differently from humans in various situations, like how the monsters didn't really hate humans for underground imprisonment. Another thing about Toriel not leaving the Ruins, I figured she had to stay there to protect any other humans that may have fallen down while the player was on their journey.

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She smiles very weird if ur lvl 4 and u killed her. and when u kill her at her most vulnerable moment

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Maybe from the fact that she's no longer a "Dreemurr"... she actually WAS a "Dreemurr" before. And "Dreemurr" being an analog of Muderer.

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Underlab, i have 2 theories! 1: Toriel came around. She is aware of the fate of the other 6 hans who came to the underground, she is aware of what Asgore needs in order to shatter the barrier. Maybe after greiving the other 6 who died, maybe she snapped under all she had to concider (including Asirels death, leaving Asgore and being 'all alone') and decided to let it be what it shall be. When she leaves us alone in the ruins, maybe she wanted the monsters to do her dirty work, killing us so she could take the soul to Asgore to free monster kind. Let's face it, people who don't have any conversation with others and being alone with their thoughts do tend to become unreasonable and or don't think logically. She might not want to have the blood on her hands as she couldn't bare living with the fact she killed a child she cared for. Perhaps she never expected us to make it (hence why she was ringing us as we approached the house, he suprised sentence at the start must of been her thinking it was a minster who had arrived telling her we had died. 2: She left us in the ruins to test the kind of player we would become. Leaving us in the ruins alone to fight or give mercy to the monsters to see what our actions could come to. One time when she would of been talking to Sans, he might of told her of his 'timeline powers' and said the next human to fall down will have many different actions and consequences. Some which do not hard alot but some, some which will set them free and some which leads to a genocidal ruin. Maybe she wanted to see what kind of person we would become and whether or not we will be good, bad or neutral, which explains why Sans judges us for ALL the choices we make in every playthrough. Toriel must want to see whether her trust with the human is good and if she is doing the right thing, keeping us there but for the monsters sake. We never really know any other things those 2 talked about, Sans must trust Toriel as much as she does him if she wanted him to promise not to hurt anyone who comes through. (On some timelines, she might of already been told of our actions so she never made the promise with Sans on some of them.) Well those are my two theories, let me know what you think and if you choose to look into one or both of them, that would be epic, thanks again for your time reading these. :)

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I spent a lot of time thinking about what might have happened if Asgore never declared war after Asreil died (worst case scenario) first of all General hopelessness leads to lawlessness and looting and once human 1 falls and makes their way out of the ruins only to be attacked and killed by a decently powerful monster who then steals their soul and crosses the barrier and then proceeds to take even more souls from the nearby town not stopping at 7 which at that point they can just steal all souls in the surrounding area and as their power grows so powerful they take the souls of every human then possibly even every monster and no amount of determination is going to fix that

3:00 are you kidding? I would LOVE to trade bone puns with Sans. Sounds like living in a comedy.

Hey, I wanted to note something related to the acronyms episode from a bit ago. I think ATK may stand for "ability to kill" because A: the more attack you have, the easier it is to kill monsters. And B: it's *ability* to kill, as you can gain ATK without gaining EXP or LV (equipment), so it's not automatically evil.

I just feel even worse for her now.

I don't think Toriel and Asriel are perfect cinnamon rolls like a lot of people think. Actually, I think they are pretty messed up. Asgore may have killed six children, but Toriel and Asriel just scare the hell outta me o_o

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Thanks, it means that I wasn't the only one to have this theory (even if mine is a little bit different)

I am over here saying how the hell did Toriel keep up a house that is over one thousand years old by herself. It should have fallen apart by now.

Hey Underlab i think it might be fun if you did more what if video's kind of like youre what is asriel lived but with different charecters like something you mentioned in this video like what if toriel came with you

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2:14 what about the dummies???? dont take it too seriously

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I love that even such a seamingly​ pure and kind character Could have a dark past, But we still love her! I wish people felt this way about Ashore :c

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Papyrus, killing someone? Have I gotten myself into a paralel universe?

Wow, well done

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dont you know it rude to talk about people who are listening

I don't some parts of Undertale (but only 1) did the 6 souls fell down mount ebbot (by Toriel saying something that I forgot) or did asriel took the souls with Chara? (From the story)

Another thing we're missing is that all those years alone might have left her... unattended. When her only company are small childs who come every now and then, well...

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Great video! During my first run, I killed Toriel without regret ( at least until chat with Sans in MTT Hotel ). I thought, she had been mentally ill.

One day I'll make an UNDERTALE mod about Tori going with you, Underlab. :D

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If you missed what was going on at 0:46 its toriel with bloodstains on her and she's looking very happy

Her talking to sans through the door makes sense around the end of the pacifist run

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Good theory, but I think Toriel just wanted to protect Frisk and didn't know how to deal socially since she's lonely most of the time.

As soon as the Toriel jump scare appeared, my computer crashed. .___.

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