Toro 30" Walk Behind Mower Review - MainStreetMower 

1099 might have been the going price 2 yrs ago but it's pushing $1500.00 in 2022 and honestly nothing has changed in the time master. For $1500.00 residential or not this mower should have come with more commercial features such as a 1 gallon tank which come on, the current tank with a 223cc engine is ridiculous. People are having to modify adding a 1 gallon tank to do large yards. The pulley spindles are still cheap like the 196cc model that was under powered and wear out which is another thing that people are modifying with commercial pulleys. Let's talk about the plastic flap that's supposed to be a safety feature. It breaks, it breaks a lot especially if you cut in a low setting which it gets chewed up by the blades if you pull back on the mower. People are having to modify that using tough rubber. Then there's the transmission which still fails often other than a few minor improvements it's still to underpowered even more so with the 223cc and the weight of the mower. And finally there's the foam in these tiny gas tanks that actually serve no purpose other then keeping you supposedly from over filling the gas tank but actually effects the gas volume and then there's moisture build up especially if your tank is low or empty which it sucks up the moisture and holds it that will effect your gas the next time you fill up especially if you live in a humid state but that's not all. Over time that foam will begin to break down and guess what? It'll clog the gas tank, your carburetor and eventually get sucked into your engine. When I pay money especially $1500.00 plus extra warranties that raise the price over $1800.00 I expect solid well thought out quality build, not equipment that is a high risk for breaking down. I've seen how toro has started pushing bad quality the moment they put those no oil change engines on their products as well as cheap quality constructed decks. Ask me how many times I've had to replace the plastic recycler logo bumper on my new 22 inch high wheel personnel pace recycler. No wash out port, and what's really upsetting is the cheap plastic shroud around the blade that's a safety issue. Yes vortex my ass, it's nothing short of a gimmick that is made of cheap plastic and clogs up not to mention will likely break the moment a rock or something hits it. My personal pace I had before that had a wash out port, came with the side discharge and was 18 Guage steel underneath other than the cover that protected the belt but was of sturdy construction and safety build. Toro is going down hill with this crap, yet the company refuses to hear the actual complaints. They only make adjustments if it's to get a few people to buy their products. I'm buying the time master knowing what I'm getting into, however the extra expense coming out of my wallet to improve a mower that should have already been improved upon since the earlier model is troublesome. I absolutely hate money sinks, in fact I'll go out of my way to ruin any company that has bad business practices. I'm not telling people to not buy the time master but I'm making them aware of what they're getting into and should plan ahead to make these changes early on so they can enjoy their equipment over a long term use. The seller said it himself in this video that he's personnelly never used the time master and even that boasting the turf master hasn't been seen in for repairs yet he never once mentioned the time masters track record 🙄. From a user to the salesman. Stop pitching how great your product is especially if you have never personally owned one. Be honest about products because it's always the actual buyer who has to make videos about that equipment even if it's a negative review of companies say for instance Toro. Want to back your products then fine, take them home and use them for about a year and give an honest review of that product, don't make yourself look like a snake oil salesman.

Great video on the 30” finally

I just purchased a Timemaster last week from my local Toro Master Dealer... Thanks for the information~

Why does the timemaster have a 223cc and the turfmaster hdx comes with a 180 or 200cc? Throw a 260cc on that bad boy and you got a deal.

Why does the time master have more ccs then the turfmaster?

I like the energy in this video

Nice commercial mower I loved the video very informative and has helped with my decision making. I was about to purchase the Ex Mark commercial after seeing the video I am going to buy this one thanks so much!

Thanks for doing this comparison. I'm looking at hopefully getting the turf master pretty soon 🙏🙏🙏

Thank you for the video great information

Thanks for the review 🤓👍.

My 2017 Timemaster bought new in 2018 lasted 5 years 1,000 hours of commercial use installed heavy duty idler pulleys when i bought new. Just replaced engine with Kohler 224. So easy to start. Also had to replace everything but the trans but did have to replace the plastic trans pulley. The heavy duty idler pulleys are still good. I was cutting a 2 acre field for first couple years with it. In Maryland heat and humid. wet grass. Is it perfect no. but its not junk. Learn to work on things yourself. Just got the G5 Blades and love them. 6 inches of cutting edge per blade VS 4 on stock and they stay sharp for a week.

Great toro 30" mower video, how about a similar one for the 21" version including the comercial line-up.. Thanks

I have a late 2013 Timemaster B&S 190CC Intek, electric start. Overall, been a great mower, I can get 2.5 cuts with the same tank of gas. Overall power is pretty good too. The weakest spot I’ve found is the BBC cable will break at the handle due to it’s plastic. A new cable is cheap and easy to replace yourself, but inconvenient when you need to get the grass cut. It’s good to keep a spare, and as far as the internal battery-I’m still using the original going on 7 years now. My worry now is how much life does the sealed tranny have left. Not to mention, I have replaced several belts/parts over the last year for light residential use. Considering an electric Toro now for my small yard, but an extra battery is $250-350 for a mower that sells for $500 when new. So I guess I’m between a rock and a hard place. Just my input on these mowers, but a great info video.

On the Timecutter, what parts have been changed from say 2017 model to the 2020 model? Transmission, wheels, gas tank?

Apparently the engineers at Toro did Not test drive their HDX models much. If they had of, they would have noticed immediately that the units are not very manueverable. In fact, the operator has to literally "fight" the mower in curves and turns. Sorry, but that is just the way it is. The transmission "locks in" and it just does not want to let you turn the mower without a struggle. Say what you want about the first models like the 22200 but they handled wonderfully. Very intuitive and productive without ANY fight. The handle design was easy on the hands versus this current setup which is better on the cables but hard on the hands. Having owned many Toro commercial mowers, the vast majority have been incredible Machines. And I am sad that the new Turfmaster isn't one of them. Enjoyed your entertaining video though!

awesome video thanks!!!

How do you clean the deck underneath? Those garden hose deck attachments just make a sloppy mushy mess i. experience up in PA . Can you prop this up and reach underneath easily to scrape it clean?

I purchased the Toro turfmaster HDX with the Kohler CV 200.My worker seized the engine.I was if I can repower it with the Kohler cv224.Same excact engine length width height weight.Just some internal tweaking.Thankyou for your feedback.

Why do both turfmaster commercial models have smaller displacement and torque specs than the residential 223cc model? I still don't understand why they did that. I have a the 21200 timemaster and was thinking about getting the turfmaster 22210 (I'm getting a heck of a deal) for some residential yards I mow. The specs show the the timemaster has better gross HP and gross Torque.

Do you'll have the new Toro hydro walk behinds u can do a video on

I've had the Toro Time Master 30" for 10 years. I put $350 total in repairs/maintenance in it in all that time. It takes me about 1.5 hours to mow my property (different levels, lots of obstacles). In ten years I had to put it in for service once. I would say I definitely got my money's worth out of it.

I had the time master electric start. It is the best. I never had to charge the battery for the 3 years that I own it. I purchase the turfmaster with Kawsaki, I really miss my time master..

I thumbs up just cause I saw that doofus dancing around! Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh, and review...

If you had to buy only one Turfmaster HDX, which motor would you buy? I was all set to buy the Kohler version, but my dealer says I should buy the Kawasaki as the motor will last significantly longer and be a quieter and smoother engine. His Toro rep said he sells 8 Kawasaki to 2 Kohler. Other lawn pros on RU-vid seem to like the power of the Kohler. It looks like the Exmark version now has the Kohler, so I am not sure what to do! Thank you!

How much do you dealers usually offer for used turfmasters?

Does that TurfMaster with the Kohler engine climb hills easier?

so do turfmaster and time master both have same pace setter system? they go same speed as you walk? or can turmaster go even faster... i like to jog when mowing if possible at 6 mph... thanks

That's new Turfmaster looks to be a great product especially with the Kohler 200 cc engine and the new ham hock trans. I suggest everyone watch MainStreets youtube channel. They are very helpful and professional produced (not boring).

Does the new timemaster have metal idler pulley?

Why isn’t the Kohler available in Australia on the Turfmaster

I just bought the electric start timemaster... it was the only mower I could find on this side of the province ... mass shortage and can’t order form the company because they are out of stock across the country ... it wasn’t the model I wanted ... I wanted the superrecycler but it was timemaster or a junk brand ... it’s an awesome mower but horrible at going up a steep ditch ... soooo massively heavy even with rear wheel drive ! It would be a dream mower if they would make it with all wheel drive and larger tank but overall it’s great !!!

Looking to get a Turfmaster. SPRING IS CALLING!!

Can the timemaster be fitted with the larger gas tank offered on the turf master models?

I’m gonna have to pick me up a Time Master one of these days..

People have been saying the Timemaster gas tank is too small for years. When will Toro correct that problem?

You got da moves brother!!! 🤣

Is there's caster wheels available for it?

Why does the commercial mower have less power than the residential?

Why does the residential mower have a larger engine than the commercial?

Thanks. It looks like the Toro's can't charge their batteries. A non starter. Or a non charger for sure. Time for a snapper. Maybe?

Came for the lawnmower, stayed for the dancing

The engines both have the same 179cc 😐 , so how is the 200 kholer engine better if they’re the same size ?

I need swivle front caster kit for mine. How much are they?

Does the blades have to spin to have self propel?

Hello, I've heard that the Timemaster struggles getting up hills. Have you experienced this? Thanks for your time 👍🏻

What are you talking about a year year and a half to replace the battery I have a five year old time master with the original battery no problems I also have a 11 year old super recycler 21 inch with the original battery no problems

Been researching the Timemaster and no one has it for $1099

How much does the 30 koher?

Skip the TurfMaster at $2,299; just buy the TimeCutter at $2,599, where we can sit on it, sip a cup of coffee, and mow the lawn at the same time

U got ur knees a little dirty mister

Why don't they put the personal pace on the other two personal pace is the top dog better control the Briggs & Stratton better CC

Lol I never heard of a ham hog or whatever he said 😂. But he wasn’t lying it did look like one lol

Toro are back I’m so happy I wish John Deere come back too with good machine

I don't understand why the cheapest lamore comes with 223 but the most expensive one comes with only 200cc???

I'll stick with the timemaster. Wish they would do a larger tank and the turfmaster wheel adjustment. But it is what it is. My original timemaster has 300 hours from 16 and still going strong. Last few years after getting a 36 stand I don't use it as much but still has it's place.

$2300? At that point, I’d just buck up and get the Ferris FW15.

Bought Turfmaster and after a month the motor fell off, did not tighten bolts at the factory. Stay away from the 30 in. Buy a 32 walk behind, much easier to use. 30 inch will wear you out, way to heavy and will not hold up@!

$?

You can buy 2 Times compared to 1 Turf.

The Timemaster only has a 1.2 quart fuel tank which is wayyy too small for and engine that can really suck down the fuel. Prices are just stupid.

Time master with a Kholer would be great.

Any mower with Kawasaki engine is better than the others.

Is it just me who thinks that the timemaster seems to be the much better option, being more powerful and half the price?

I love the timemaster but if u have bad shoulders don't buy it. It tears up your shoulders.

Looking at the title of the video... "DANG THERES A NEW TORO PUSH MOWER THAT OFFERS A 30 FOOT CUT!?!1!?ONE!!??" (This is a great example of how punctuation and grammar is important. Incorrect punctuation can cause confusion and has a different meaning.)

One word. Knees

187 or whatever pounds...brutal in western PA lol

Several year owner here of a TimeMaster.... besides the pulleys being absolutely a joke... the mower is good. Recommend immediately upgrading the pulleys to the commercial pulleys so they don't implode on you.

Buy one for mother in law...HAHA.

200cc to drive two rotors and drive chain is not enough cc, it will bog down

None of the above. Timemaster+kohler swap>and turfmaster ANY.

If I have 1 acre of land I'll be on a rider lawnmower....and why are your knees dirty lol

I WOULD BUY THIS MOWER IF IT CAME WITH ALUMINUM DECK.

Seems obvious that TORO had significant warranty problems by installing the crappiest trans made..this is why I never bought one.I've seen one break on first use,minutes after delivery. You can't please your customers when your mower's in the shop with 30 others of the same make waiting for backordered parts that are no better than what just broke. Then- what do you do when you're out of warranty? PUNT ? Lessons learned? Yeah- on both sides of the sales counter

These mowers r over rated they dont have enough power to operate 2 blades and in my opinion Briggs & Stratton sucks maybe with a bigger engine with oil filter. But with that said I had one of the turf master they r heavy like he keeps saying heavy the turn is hard because its HEAVY

I watched this review and bought the Toto 30 inch Timemaster. I need everyone to know that this is the biggest piece of junk I have ever owned and Toro does not stand behind their warranty. I have had belts dislodge, belts stretched so that the mower blades wobble and cut the lawn like a drunken bum. I have had failure of the gas to get into the engine due to the improper design of the the gas cap. There is a fix for that but Toro only does it when your engine fails. All complaints and problems were met with Toro saying these were wear and tear issues and are not covered. Today, after 20 hours of total use white smoke started coming out of the engine. What can I say other than that is you buy a Toro timemaster you will regret it. You have been warned.

I think 21 is closer to 21 not 16

You lost me at Briggs and Stratton

I'll save everybody some time, go buy a Honda lol

My feedback: Too intense presentation. No need for so many models. May be that Toro has no confidence in any of the models.

You're spending a little too much time on your knees 🤭

Pants man 👖

It's hard to taker advice from a guy who sells Toro's. Your a Toro salesman. Of course your going to give Toro an awesome review. Duh....

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toro has bad customer support stay away

So the homeowner one weighs less and has a more powerful engine? At half the price, no wonder everyone is using that as the commercial unit 🤣