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Torvill & Dean ROAD RAGE: A STRESSED-OUT CHRIS 

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I made this on the 20th March 2007. It's kinda scrappy, and I didn't really spend much time on it. It was basically just in response to a request from a fellow fan to display some of the documentary footage of T&D training...
Despite being so mean at times, I see it as the creative passion of a genius. A rather attractive quality...

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@jordansupport1923
@jordansupport1923 5 лет назад
Really interesting insights that also explain why some partnerships/marriages work (T+D, Fred and Ginger) and others just cant go the distance (Liz Taylor and Richard Burton, Brangelina). T and D each bring their own qualities to the relationship, and there is hidden strength in knowing what battles to pick.
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 16 лет назад
They are indeed. I can't help but keep thinking of the probability of them meeting and pairing up to becoming this amazing dance team. I mean, the fact that they were born around the same time, that they were both in Nottingham, that they got together to skate, that they fitted so well, and that their temperaments match so perfectly - Chris fiery and creative, and Jayne patient and obedient!...
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
...and it also goes to show the depth of their friendship & love for one another, too. That they'd put up with each other for so many years (and decades!!) is an amazing testimony of their wonderful relationship :)
@MsLylianne
@MsLylianne 12 лет назад
I totally agree too. Both have always acknowledged that Chris is the driving force and Jayne the stabilising one. That's why it's a relationship which has lasted 35 years and still going strong. Also, Jayne herself is very competitive or she would not have stuck with Chris all these years. There's a video somewhere of this TV presenter who beats Jayne in a video game and crows about it and Jayne says: But it's only with your hands, no legs involved. LOL! Yep, Jaynie is competitive.
@siosioliver3474
@siosioliver3474 7 лет назад
MsLyli Anne i
@saran3214
@saran3214 Год назад
I agree she is just as perfectionistic as Dean is. She is not a door mat. She just lets him spout off. She never cowers or cries. She is tougher than he is, I really admire her.
@elainemcdonald7712
@elainemcdonald7712 17 лет назад
Wow! There's something I didn't know! Chris is mean!! Poor Jayne! Thanks for posting this!
@hairgeek95
@hairgeek95 3 года назад
“That run still isn’t right” “Excuse me” 😂😂
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
It just shows the depth of their charisma, talent, and personalities, doesn't it, that we all still love him despite his aggression! He's a lovely man :D
@ginnylorenz5265
@ginnylorenz5265 6 лет назад
I'm guessing that Jayne found a much kinder man (Phil) to marry. But that doesn't mean that her love for Chris isn't deep, dear and powerful. Just not the day to day, homeowning, parenting, etc. kind. Lucky girl to have two wonderful men in her life, loving her, and helping her achieve her different goals.
@brendapoynter7402
@brendapoynter7402 5 лет назад
Ginny Lorenz w
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 16 лет назад
They are the perfect pair, and for this to happen I would've thought the probability was about 1 in a billion, at the least! It blows my mind...
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
haha I TOTALLY agree! Glad someone else thinks so lol! He is SOOO attractive, and I find him even more so when he's stressed out! I love his 'angry' voice, and his sarcastic digs at Jayne, asking if her 'legs are heavy' and stuff. He's so hot!
@purplerabbit7190
@purplerabbit7190 Месяц назад
Well all credit to Jane. I wish I had her temperament. Not to make excuses for Chris but the number of times he had to lift Jane wouldn’t have been easy for him. A partnership based on respect for one another.
@daisymay9203
@daisymay9203 6 лет назад
Not gonna lie if he spoke to me like that I would slam back but he drove her to success and I think she knew that’s why she loved him but not to take it to a relationship because it would not work because he would take the work home
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 16 лет назад
they were under a LOT of stress; reading their book, "Facing The Music", is a great insight, and you can understand it from both points of view (why Chris was so stressed, and why Jayne, who has always been such an emotional rock, couldn't help but break down and cry).
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
definitely, dudette :) they get great results, huh! absolute perfection couldn't be achieved without a perfectionist personality, always striving for more..!
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
they were stressed, it was a tough time; wasn't like that all the time :) I recommend reading their book, "Facing The Music"; very insightful!
@thispicture84
@thispicture84 17 лет назад
please post it all, i'll love you forever!
@carmenvalenzuela5658
@carmenvalenzuela5658 5 лет назад
Something must have been troubling her that day. She did seem like herself at all.
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
God bless him indeed! Such a genius :)
@elainemcdonald7712
@elainemcdonald7712 17 лет назад
I Agree, It must be so hard and demanding on them! Some of the things said were a bit harsh though...mainly by Chris (I'm just feeling sorry for Jayne cos she started crying...thats like something i'd do!)! I'll say one thing for Chris, he's passionate and harsh but he gets results!!! Its all worth it in the end! The're such good friends that things like that dont affect them at all! I love it!
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
she's a darling isn't she. must be such a patient person, and such a long fuse too...!!
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
aw lol, I pity Chris as well, for being portrayed like this. The documentary team only captured a couple of hours of just one day from their entire career; according to Chris & Jayne, this was a bit of an 'odd' time, and Chris wasn't usually that bad. He's usually passionate and dominant, but not that nasty lol! I think as Jayne says, there needs to be someone with that driving force in the pair, to keep them chasing perfection. Bless Chris... :)
@thispicture84
@thispicture84 17 лет назад
wow this is so interesting. I'd love to see more.
@mad1000woman
@mad1000woman 17 лет назад
Great Video TNDfan!!! .i totally agree with all comments and would love to see more of this Documentary. Pretty, pretty please.
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
well put! I totally agree :) thanks for commenting!
@peterwilliams1363
@peterwilliams1363 5 лет назад
Jane could have walked out and there’ll be NO Torvill & Dean. No Gold Medals. As in all relationship. . Understandably Chris is a Perfectionist
@daisymay9203
@daisymay9203 5 лет назад
People wonder why there romance would never work 😂😂😂
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
thanks mad1000woman! glad you enjoyed :D
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 16 лет назад
Catatonia :o) Gld you like it, thanks for the comment!
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 16 лет назад
thanks for your comment :o)
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
well said!
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
No probs hehe, we were all new T&D fans at one point :) *welcome!* They are training for their Face The Music routine, which they had to make some last minute changes to, for the '94 Olympics. Most of the clips come from a documentary called "Facing The Music" from 1994, except for the clip at 3:27, which is an excerpt from a documentary about the making of their show, "Ice Adventures". Hope that helps! x
@siosioliver3474
@siosioliver3474 7 лет назад
TNDfan i
@SEDSabuhb
@SEDSabuhb 16 лет назад
oh thanks - im gonna find it :D thank you !! :D
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 16 лет назад
yes it is :) 1994, "Facing The Music"
@Na3nAe101
@Na3nAe101 12 лет назад
Its here on youtube
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
yeh definitely; it takes the glamour away from it (which is a good thing lol, 'cos ppl sometimes get into ice-skating with false beliefs of what it's really like!), and shows the reality to it all. I find stuff like this deepens my appreciation for their performances. When I go and watch the Olympic "Face The Music" now, it looks 100x more amazing than it did before (and that's a lot!!) Just makes you appreciate all that goes into it. They're an amazing pair.
@ginnylorenz5265
@ginnylorenz5265 4 года назад
Yes!!
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
dear Chris :)
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
hehe I totally agree :-D 'tis fascinating indeed!
@Aineodov
@Aineodov 15 лет назад
I Love Jayne more out of the two because she is so caring and kind and seems like the kind of person that you could just have a chat with. I usually like Chris too but in this video I really feel like punching him until he appolagises to Jayne. Jayne doesnt deserve anything like that. I can't believe he made her cry and then just skated off. He said you didnt see the times she made me cry. What a liar I bet she never did and even if she did it would have only been like once of twice.
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 16 лет назад
yes :)
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 16 лет назад
well said :)
@carmenvalenzuela5658
@carmenvalenzuela5658 5 лет назад
She loved him, apologized for him that says it all.
@CandyisAwesome86
@CandyisAwesome86 8 лет назад
Yeah HOT even when he's mad Lol
@dancingqueen086
@dancingqueen086 13 лет назад
Has anyone got the full documentary as would be great to see it in full again??
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 16 лет назад
the Olympics, '94 :)
@Na3nAe101
@Na3nAe101 12 лет назад
I think this shows that he is the more competitive one than Jayne, as commented in their interview together on Loose Women
@ginnylorenz5265
@ginnylorenz5265 4 года назад
I assume they were wearing body mics because they were making the documentary. I'm surprised that they didn't take them off if they were going to fuss. They've talked about how their coach told them not to let people see them disagreeing publicly. Anyway......doesn't matter. I ADORE this couple. Their performances are magical to me.
@alexac3098
@alexac3098 4 года назад
The how and why of the argument and the body mics and all is not that simple. You'd really have to read their book(s) for the whole story.
@ginnylorenz5265
@ginnylorenz5265 4 года назад
@@alexac3098 I agree....and I ordered their book yesterday. Eager to read it!! Thanks for your reply. Best wishes from San Diego, CA.
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
I TOTALLY agree :-D
@margoc88
@margoc88 15 лет назад
3:57 chris is well harsh to jayne
@Jemjane_89
@Jemjane_89 14 лет назад
he says some really mean things to her like your like a dead weight, but I can see how they vounce of each other they are like the perfect couple. Anyone notice when she started crying she look liked she wanted to hug him and he just said no don't start the tears on me and skated away,lol. He is mean but I find it kind of attractive although if I was Jayne I would give him a punch,lol.
@goffik
@goffik 15 лет назад
wickeeed, where's the clip from 3:16 where he goes "had a little bit of a breakdown" :)
@valkyriesardo278
@valkyriesardo278 4 года назад
They were under external pressure at this time. That pressure might have meant they would have to reinvent themselves as skaters. They are artists. You don't tell Van Gogh that he can't use yellow paint anymore. And anyway, I don't see this friction as indicative of a fracture but of deep trust. Casual acquaintances would have stormed off and slammed the door.
@ginnylorenz5265
@ginnylorenz5265 4 года назад
Yes. Deep trust, and a long, long partnership.
@Na3nAe101
@Na3nAe101 12 лет назад
THey had just come bakc from flying, kind of. Bit jet lagged I reckon. Thats only way Chris can blame something else, in my eyes anyway
@SEDSabuhb
@SEDSabuhb 16 лет назад
whats the documentary called agen??? and is 1.08 part of the same documentary????
@bts_blackpink_124
@bts_blackpink_124 3 года назад
What year did they skate on the rink when they had that argument, also how old were they when they had the aruement
@bethannesperring3482
@bethannesperring3482 2 года назад
It was in 1994 the day after the European championship when they barely won. Tensions were high. Still no excuse
@deltarose1
@deltarose1 16 лет назад
that's so terrible when he makes her cry, why was he so mean to her at that point in their professional career?
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
...hehe are you a neighbours fan, by any chance? "Kusan" forever? I totally agree!!!! ;) x
@rsbkug3981
@rsbkug3981 Год назад
Music is too loud
@TNDfan
@TNDfan 17 лет назад
hmm I could, but it would take forever, having to separate it into 10-minute chunks... :-S
@cazziekins
@cazziekins 16 лет назад
He can come round to my house and see what a dominant woman is like any time LOL!
@goffik
@goffik 15 лет назад
aaaah i'd hit him! i can't believe jane is so calm throughout it
@rivkastock2684
@rivkastock2684 5 лет назад
He is a nasty, talented womenizer, while she is a decent excellent skater woman. Poor Jayne
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