+rainius byzantinus_ (RainTheRobloxian) total war rome 2 NOW is by far my favorite game in the series right after total war rome 1 (i played every total war expect empire and shogun 1 medieval 1)
Harry arthur But the greed is forever strengthening, as 1 blockbuster drops after the next before our wallets. I feel the big companies are just way too powerful now to give 2 bedsheets anymore to whatever's at stake .
+Harry arthur i just bought the game today, and i dont know if it has changed but it feels like it, the ai dont seem too stupid i am stressed out in every battle. Im also only playing on medium. Its fun and im enjoying it more than i enjoyed shogun. Just my 2 cents
It really sucks to see the wave of copyrights hit this video, especially since this was one of my all time favorite videos of Angry Joe's. And now the audio in the beginning is borked.
Maybe later in their history but this is supposed to be like 500 BCE where they were more likely to throw you to an animal or put you in a gladiator battle or make you a slave for the rest for your life Curicification came about 300 years later
antitroller101 make a good product at launch and people wouldn't resist glad i never bought this game those freaking glitchy faces scare the crap outa me
***** Well usually they add a bribe by giving extra stuff in the game that's only available if you pre-order. Things that should of course be available to everyone who buys the game, not just pre-orders. (One of Angry Joe's points here is that they've made this extra stuff so why is it not in the game for everyone?)
To anyone wondering why the audio problems: for the longest time, the video sounded like normal, but because it had a few instances in which Joe uses music, this, along many other of his reviews had to remove it. I assume in this one in particular, something happened with the editing that made the audio spike when Joe talks louder.
Reasons I watch Angry Joe 10% of the time - to see whether the game is good or worth getting 90% of the time - to see whether or not he explodes with anger.
Joe Lowso It was bit more easier to play, not that im complaining on rome 2 or the one just both Rome attila it's hard, challenging, an awesome, but at times managing your nation could be a bore at times, an confusing when you play the game for the first time. It's no shogun i can tell you that. The assassination, sabotage cut-scenes, removed which is a waste, cause i like spies an assassins scenes were if it's a fail or not. But i must admit Attila is a bit more better, in a sense.
@Gerry Buckets They had more funny one liners to them (Godzilla as well) but none of them have the same personal drive to them that the review to Rome 2 has.
@@murutattack I'm guessing it's because the music he used early in the video got copyrighted so he had to edit it out. Either that or RU-vid is just an asshole.
To be honest, RTW2 today is very very good (After some minor patch that was like 2-3 weeks ago). They finally updated politics, encyclopedia, etc, so now I must say it is the game I thought I buyed 2 years ago.
Cool! I've played enough of M2TW and i was going to S2 next cause R2 sucks, but now that it's fixed i might actually buy R2 first! (saving the best for last!)
I do not believe that this video needs an update. Joe says near the end of the review that the game will get better with patches but argues that what s important is its state at release as it shows how the consumer has been betrayed.
+andre robinson I just reinstalled it. Its still shit. Just less bugs. Crap AI. Crap pathfinding. Silly usage of siege vehicles without proper animations. Garbage collision. Christ the list goes on and Im not even gonna bother. Game was shit back in 2013 and its still shit now in late 2015. And based on my experience with Atilla its the same damn thing there. I PRAY... that Warhammer wont be like this.
+andre robinson Indeed. But shitty DLC practise and more aside. I just for once hope that warhammer will actually be a good game. Functional at release. Hah. Which is like... the most basic thing we should expact but yea. Crossing fingers.
+andre robinson Thats the thing, sir. Atilla is basically Rome 2 if it functioned from the start. Well..Not really but.. Sorta Thats really it. The AI is only a BIT improved which is no surprise since Julian Mckinlay helped work on it after we all screamed out for him to be fired due to creating the ungodly AI of Rome 2 on release and thereafter. But that aside. Atilla looks as bleak as Rome 2 does minus a few visual upgrades but other than having a few extra features and graphical improvements if you can even go that far to say that... Atilla doesn't offer anything else. Unit rosters are lacluster. DLC hording equivalent to Rome 2.Same unit animations. Same pretty much everything. hah. basically what Im trying to say. Atilla is NOT a standalone game. Atilla should have been a 20-30 dollar expac for Rome 2 because do NOT let the title fool you. Atilla...IS rome 2 with a paintjob and a few tweaks. Dont be fooled by dev interviews or fanboys. I played for hours and I know what I saw. Its ROme 2 carried into a new game. AI has a few improvements. Nothing mind blowing. Collision sucks still. pathfinding continues to amaze... negatively. The shit engine makes the game look bleak and as if it was in early access unlike prior games and then of course the actual unit movement... which pretty much adds up with what Joe said here. Units are floating all over the map. No guard mode STILL. Hah. Man...I could go on and on and thats because Atilla is Rome 2 with all its crap plus a few features we DEMANDED to be implemented in rome 2...but never got. Go figure. Man. If you want to play a good game this period. Buy rome 1 with mods or medieval total war with all its amazing mods. TRUST ME, man. Those two games and all the modding community have done for them...ARE...the better games. Stay away from this. Its doesn't matter what mods you install for this. because you will never be able to shake your feeling that something in Atilla and Rome 2 is just wrong. No graphical, AI or unit visual improvement mods can fix that. You can find MUCH better games, man. Unless you can buy Rome and atilla at a 75 % discount or MORE. Dont.... spend the money. Its just not worth it let alone NOT worth you wasting your life playing a game CA and Sega dedicated ZERO love and effort to. Pardon the wall of text but you simply cannot elaborate on this situation properly without explaining this in detail.
It happens when you are not close enough to the unit. Everything gets more detailed when you get close with the camera. The problem with the release was, that some units didn't get more detailed, but right now I played 900 hours Rome 2, mostly Multiplayer, on medium settings and it never happens.
2023: can confirm that it's the "same old shit, we'll patch it later" but with the caveat of CA threatening to not patch their broken games unless you buy overpriced dlc.
However, i still feel there's something fundamental missing in the game...probably just me. I mean, yes, many technical issues have been resolved since release, but nevertheless to me it's only a mediocre game. I don't feel the fun i get when playing shogun 2 or napoleon/empire (shrug)
Gareth Lam because the engines broken. Its a shit engine with shitty unit behavior / unit objects. Did u ever feel like archer fire is like a fucking missle? it homes in on its target midair when a unit moves so it can still hit the unit. yeeee no object collision whatsoever. Shitty engine shitty game pretty simple to me.
"patches have made it a lot better!" thats not the fuckin point! NO developer should ever have the balls to release a game in the state this was released in, EVER. Patches are necessary, but when a company says to themselves "oh just release it. we'll use patches and eventually it'll be in a decent working condition" needs to take a long hard fucking look at their game practices. People need to stop forgiving this lazy practice because it only tells the developers and publishers they can get away with it. It's your money, so you must demand the best for it. If a game is released in a state where the last game is both more fun and works better (as Shogun 2 did) then there is a bloody problem. The game has been patched, but it still needs a hell of a lot more before it can match its predecessors. Like Shogun 2 says, the Rome 2 launch was a shameful display.
Mountain Jew They sold preorders. We paid money for a game that wasn't out, and when we received it we got to look at stuff like endless loading times and braindead AI. Also, Rome II's trailers suggested features that simply didn't exist when the game came out. Finally, some of us (me included) felt Rome I was actually a better game than Rome II. That's pretty disappointing, and none of that was the bugs some people encountered at game release (I only encountered a few crash bugs personally).
The idea is that they will sell more DLCs day one then if they release it months down the road. So after they make the game they make a DLC before release so you have the option to get the new DLC right out of the gate.
This was the game where Creative Assembly has truly started to slide into being an awful dev team, where the Total War franchise started to become worse and worse.
I was so hyped for this game, I just wanted Rome with better graphics, diplomacy and so extra features. I guess I'll stick to Rome. I just hope Monster Hunter 4 for the west doesn't disappoint, what's with all these crappy game releases? ;_;
Joe doesn't understand, the Romans used ancient technology to be able to sail through land, distort their faces to scare enemies, and disappear pieces of land from the map :)
Almost 9 and a half years after this game released, and to this day I cannot forget how disasterous this release was. Total War: Rome II has since received many updates, patches and DLCs and is now a great game, but that doesn't cover for the extremely poor release (and this is coming from a guy with almost 6900 registered hours plating this game on Steam (and many more that were not registered)... This review brought me back to 2013, and was absolutely spot-on for what happened at launch, though some of these things are still true: the politics system for instance, has been updated and a whole new system that lets you run your faction's politics great depths has been implemented, but without any tutorial to explain to the players how to operate it. It took me a full campaign walkthrough (including taking all the regions in the map) to finally wrap my head around it. Thank you for this awesome review and the flashback to 2013 AngryJoe, it was a blast!
1.Medieval 2 (same engine as rome 1 but way better in my opinion due to the better graphics and improved features) 2.Shogun 2 (simply a masterpiece) 3.Empire/napoleon (buggy...yes, kinda still fun....yes)
Félix Lagüe-Lalonde Don't Worry, warhammer has enough beasts to make the game engine realize the unit collision is not possible when one side eats the other :P
hahaha, i was expecting some to try climbing it or something atleast :P it would be cool to have the giant grab some of the guys climbing it and throw them off, maybe in 6 years.
Knowing CA they will likely dlc whore the crap out of it. $20 to play as Islamic Factions $10 to go to the America's Oh and Mongol invasion and blood and gore dlc $$$$$$
Well, they have said they are not interested in making a total war 3 anything. Who knows how true that is though. I'm sure they will play that card as soon as they need the money.
What I find hilarious is that my friend got into the total war franchise through Rome 2 and when I showed him shogun 2, which in my opinion had the best of both features from the new and old games, he thought Rome 2 was better.
Rome 2 Total War was the first Total War game he was introduced to, so he didn't know the older games were better. His logic is that the newest game in any game series is the best. Along with that he would take graphics over gameplay, so he won't play the original games because they don't look good to him.
Mate if you're still having launch problems then maybe you need a better computer. The game doesn't run properly on the minimum specs. It used to skip and crash for me until I upgraded and it's been running smoothly since November.
Annnnd they have done the exact same thing with total warhammer, they stripped the chaos warriors out of the game and are selling it as day 1 dlc or a pre order bonus.... sigh.
+deity 93 But we have a counter to their shannanigans! Step 1: Preorder on Steam hours before launch. Step 2: Wait for game to release Step 3: Wait for trusted reviewers to look at the game. Step 4: If trusted reviewers declare game is good, start playing it for up to 1 hour 59 minutes to experience it yourself. You currently have the DLC for free. Step 5: If reviewers were wrong or declare the game garbage, or the review embargo prevents trusted reviewers from posting within the 14 days, get a full refund and go play Medieval II total war instead. Don't look back. Don't get it on sale. Don't let patch notes tempt you back in. Game no good. Save you $60+ and buy a better product. Step 5.5: If the game is actually good...you just got the day 1 DLC for free without sacrificing your consumer right to a proper product review before buying.
RtH- Screw both of you, I'm being my own game Rome: Son you do that and you'll screw up worse than both me and your mother Simcity: Listen to your father RtH- Screw you I'm making my own game with drugs and hookers. *makes worst game ever made*
Personally I've always believed that a Total War game based on Chinese military history would be more intriguing than revising the same theatres over and over...
francisco oyola at least cars have history involvement while aliens is weird and dumb and pawnshop can show some history so aliens history channel is ran by aliens
it still have awkward unit collision in battles, navy is still pretty much useless because armies on water are stronger than naval vesels WTF and 2 nd most annoying thing is those settlements without walls, cmon remove that shit without walls!!!
Wow. People told me it was terrible. I wanted to believe the ones that said these people were exaggerating how bad it is. But damn, it fucking sucks. Rome: Total Disappointment.
I gotta say, when I posted that original comment I did not own the game. I based it off what i've seen of reviews and gameplay footage and from a few hours of gameplay with some friends. It was on sale this past weekend so I decided to see how things are 9 patches later and at least give it a fair chance. After about 20 hours of gameplay I can honestly say it still fucking sucks. The AI is mentally challenged, combat is just broken and boring, so much of the good features of past TW games like the hilarious cinematics from Shogun II have been cut.. It just feels lazy and overall disappointing.
It's sad that the audio quality for this video (most noticeably in the beginning) has been butchered. Another sympton of RU-vid's shitty music usage terms.
ben reeves Okay thanks. I bought Attila for $15 during November Steam Sale. I like it but I need a better PC LOL! The politics court is a bit confusing though.
I'd like to have a diplomacy in Total war in style Crusader Kings II or Europa Universalis. Pretty complex diplomacy to force player to think. Don't only build armies and fight - I'd just like to have an option to take provinces in diplomatic way. I know, if I want to have this complex and 'thinking' diplomacy, I should go to play CKII or EUIV... yeah yeah, but I think all the Total War would be more interesting.
Totally agree. diplomacy is a thousands times more realistic in those games and way more versatile. So much more you can do, and it adds more longevity to campaigns themselves as its less simple to simply declare wars and obliterate everything in your path. The coalition system in EUIV has to be one of my favorite mechanisms of diplomacy, more so than the bullshit civil war event in Rome 2.
welcome to the dark ages of gaming joe. edit: im pretty sure that ranged units would be capable of tearing those war elephants apart provided they can keep their distance from them elephants may have thick skin but they can only take so many arrows before they fall even less so if the arrows are on fire.
Do you think you can do another one of these for the new one? I have the game after getting a coupon, but downloading it will take quite the effort. Plus, it's also a nice sequel/comeback considering that the game right now seems to still be pretty popular
The first Rome Total War is in my opinion, the best thus far- I've never seen any major bugs, all the units are incredibly balanced, the AI is challenging and actually works.
The first Rome had battlefield AI at the level of Rome 2 where they'll sit outside of a sieged city doing nothing and dance around an open field battlefield. It actually was horrible right down to unit balance as well where war elephants were OP to the extreme seen in this video.
metgredko I agree, in Rome 1, siege AI sometimes just walk near your wall while my towers are just shooting them with archers and once they are they, the units with the siege engines takes so long to get there that the units in the front would be down to half. Battlefield AI isn't that great either, the enemy would run at my units and run away... again and again until one of them bumps into my unit.
Marcus Maxentius Indeed. It took an expansion and heavy duty mods to present any sort of challenge and even then house rules were necessary to keep it enjoyable.
5:08 is just an old battlefield tactic Alexander the Great used in the battle of Kimchi to disorganize and confuse the armies of Xerxes the Bald; It also helped screen his companion cavalry charge into Xerxes camp which allowed Alexander to personally deliver the Coup de grâce. Mind you it does work defensively, when I charged my cavalry into their targets it disorganized my attack and soon formed a blob around them. You'd have to have great micro-managing skills to get out of it.
Roger Rojas Alexander the Great was Macedonian, he had almost nothing to do with the Romans, but he would have much rather have been Greek. That can be seen with the Hellenistic Period in which Alexander spread Greek culture throughout his conquered Empire. Macedonia at the time was kind of like the black sheep little sibling next to Greece.
Roger Rojas 4chan, you should try it. You can learn alot from there and it's free; it will save your thousands of dollars from being ripped of by colleges. PS I am not liable for your mindbreak if you can not handle the knowledge you get from there.
Something tells me that's not what the AI had in mind, but if it was, the AI was too stupid to know that not only was it not working, but that it's being utterly destroyed doing that!
The whole world would be great. Although Empire had the biggest map, I couldn't help but notice they left out Large portions of South America as well as Oceania that had been colonized in the 18th century
I really wanna see if they'll go back to asia and do the three kingdom in china! They'll have plenty of materials! Or i would also like to see if they gonna work with warhammer rights they got from THQ...
Gotta say, the community over at the Total War Community, made a mod for the original Rome: Total War called Roma Surrectum and even Roma Surrectum II... that is the real Rome II if you ask me.
Its painfully boring. The game doesn't inspire me to learn its mechanics in the slightest and just ignore over half of it and just go "autopilot" in my campaigns. What I mean by that is just focus on improving buildings, recruit, stomp repeat.
@@Nasmr1 lol seriously? The diplomatic, family tree, court, and spy system is the best it's ever been. The campaign actually makes you plan unlike the previous games that let me just stomp without even trying.
This is still one of the best intros to a review I've ever seen! And Oh Lord that Benny Hill theme song! I might actually still end up rolling on the floor laughing! In depth and comical, it's definitely no wonder how AJ has stayed at the top of the review game.
