I've been enjoying the Tourbox! How will it compare to the Speed Editor? We'll find out soon enough. I'll do a direct comparison video as soon as I get hold of the Speed Editor keyboard 🙂👍
I use ShuttlePROv2 + ExpertKeys console for edit fast, so I have 96 mechanical programmable keys with Resolve functions (48x2)+15 additional keys from the very precise Shuttle+DualDial. I'm happy with all that power. I think the Blackmagic SpeedConsole is incredible for handling the multi-camera
The ShuttlePROv2 is a great device, I like the overall design and the features, but it seems to have a weak to nearly absent support from the manufacturer. Maybe because its quite old now. Also the button clear covers are so fragile and it's almost impossible to find replacement when they break.
I love my TourBox for Resolve and Audacity (both using my custom presets/hot keys). I've been recommending it to my fellow editors/producers - great time saver. It has certainly made my editing work in both Audacity and Resolve faster - and easier. One more point: it also reduces the amount of clicking my right-hand track ball requires, thus reducing stress on my right-hand index finger.
I received my TourBox yesterday, I think it's going to be a game-changer for me, I'm right handed and have an injury and a minor op in June, it's still very painful using the scroll wheel for even a few minutes so being able to transfer that work to my left hand should help me work while my hand heals. Thank Alex.
I have been using the Davinci Resolve speed editor for 2 months now. The speed and ease of editing has increased dramatically. Trimming footage before and after adding to the edit page is much easier. The Tourbox doesn’t seem to match the Davinci in quality and ease of use. The Tourbox seems like a bit of a task to setup. The advantage of the Tourbox is you can set it up how you like whereas the Speed Editor is fixed. The Tourbox is cheaper but if you need Davinci Resolve Studio you get it for free (if the offer is still available). Thanks for the review. Enjoyable and informative.
I was just thinking about some keyboard for shortcuts while working in Audacity and Davinci Resolve... From nothing I remembered your video and after watching it again, I just ordered this Tourbox. :D
Great vid Alex, nice gadget, but not for me..... I want the Speed Editor 👍. I've now watched the Black magic presentation at least 10 times and learn something new every time ! Do you realise how sick this machine is!!?. The amount of time you're gonna save on every project.... OMG!. And another Thing!, the comfort in letting go of the mouse, and just scroll through your fottage .... IN, out, append.... IN, out append!.... Hell yeah. You could hook your computer up to the big tv, and just sit back and WIRELESS Edit most of the video project..... THIS! Is gonna be a Killer editing machine....... Can't wait..ARGHHH!
@Satoshi Analysis I use an app called Xpadder to map the buttons of the controller. Much like how you can map this tourbox. You can map just about any midi controller. Some audio mixer work great for colour correction.
Great Video, THX! Convinced me to give the Loupedeck Live back and purchase the Tourbox NEO. And its absolutely great. And additionally, I put the Shift and Alt key at the Button on the left side and across, so I have additional Buttons, for instance the C1 or C2, they have functions in 5 different ways.
Ooh. I can see this being somewhat useful. Would be cool to be able to use it in both the Edit and Fusion pages. It reminds me of the old Nostromo game pad thing i used to use when i played video games. When you get the DaVinci one, see if it works with the Fusion page if you have time. Cheers!
Game pads are super comfortable with resolve, I use the Redragon DITI (as my Orbweaver is somewhere abandoned in my office since march, lol), and it's been pretty awesome this far, not as comfortable as the Orbweaver, but gets the job done.
The predicament is that if you buy the Speed Editor, you get Studio for free. For users debating upgrading from Free, that would be a major reason for Speed Editor instead of Tour Box. However, if you already have a Studio license, this is a less expensive alternative option.
Put this on my christmas list after seeing this, have been using it in Davinci Resolve and also in the Insta360 Studio app, and love it. Thanks Alex, bought you a couple cofees for this one, but like all your vids. Keep up the good work.
Oh, so I can convince myself to buy something useful for serious video editing - and then use it for Elite Dangerous to control my spaceships. It would fit real nice left of my throttle.
I think I'll stick with my shuttle pro + streamdeck XL combo. Nice jog and scrub on the shuttle and limitless macrokeys with buttons that change their lables on the fly on the deck to cover commands that I want on buttons but don't want to clutter up the shuttle. Not cheaper but I already had both before the speed edit keyboard and this came into my attention.
@@MrAlexTech Well. The shuttle pro feels cheap at first glance and the software was HEAVILY cluttered with hundreds of preset configurations that I had to manually delete one by one. But like many other tools it's heavily customizeable (it's in essence just a macro keyboard), detects what apps are in focus and all that useful stuff, don't know if it does multibutton combos though. I need to look into it. But my main hobby is in 2D handdrawn animation and setting it up to accurately quickly flick back and forth between frames on the timeline in Krita is so powerful. And getting it to work in Resolve for video editing was no problems as well. So keep the expactations on the shuttle pro on a moderate level. :)
Best review of the Tourbox so far. You said that you can set up a preset for each page in Resolve. Does the Tourbox automatically switch to the appropriate preset automatically or do you have to switch it somehow yourself? Can you have a single button push on the Tourbox send several keystrokes to Resolve. (Macros is the term I would use for that.) Thanks for a great channel. Long time *SUBSCRIBER!*
Nice alternative to the Speed Editor! :) The option of using this in multiple softwares (I’m using Hitfilm Pro too) is great! What do you think of the tourbox in comparison to the Speed Editor? And what’s very interesting for me is, how is it working on the color Page?
Seems like the same concept as the Contour Design Shuttle Pro or Loupdeck, the shortfall with these is they all simply emulate a qwerty keyboard and can only do functions that have a keyboard shortcut assigned. There are more things you would want to do in DR that don't have shortcuts such as move the sliders in the inspector that you cant control and I think DR know this and make it deliberately difficult for non BM hardware. However as you say it will work with any software which DR hardware does not, its hard to have just one controller for all.
Nice. I have seen the video for DaVinci's Speed Editor and I like that this can work on any page. Having said that, I am not sure it would be of much use on the other pages but, I suppose a sound editor or a wizard at Fusion would be able to program it for their work too. At half the price, it is definitely a contender.
Whoop whoop. I watch your ALL your videos from start to finish (including intro scene) Keep up these great videos. Quick question not moved from 16 to 17 yet. What's your thoughts, is it ok now or wait a while for the little bugs to be fixed?
@@MotoFamMayhem appreciate the reply and personal opinion. Silly question too, do I have to do anything with current fusion creations before upgrading. Would the upgrade cause any issues for me. Apologises, so new to this software.
Heyy thank you 🙂👍 I've honestly not encountered many bugs, it has crashed a few times when using Fusion but 16 did that too. The only real bug i've had is my audio stopping playing for no real reason on occasion, but a quick reboot solves that. The choice is yours though. There's always a risk with beta software but it has been okay for me.
@@michaelknowles1651 from what I understand the risk is when you go back to 16 after updating to 17..... You wanna backup your data base on 16 before upgrading to 17 and not backup your database while on 17 to prevent possible lost project files. Not sure how this correlates to fusion files
My experience is very similar to Mr.Alex's. A few minor bugs but nothing serious. The time I saved with the new color warper and magic mask was worth that few quick restart.
I literally bought resolve studio 3 days before the announcement of their update. spoke to Blackmagic and asked them if I could get the free speed editor and they said no. really surprised me,
Another great video, MAT!! Seems like a cool little thing. I started with the Shuttle Pro. But the one you REALLY need to try is the x-keys XK-68 jog/shuttle. It kills both of them (this one and the BM one). What an awesome apparatus! Once again, great video!!
Whoa I've not even heard of that one before, it looks like something from the 90's 😆 Love it, looks cool! I'll have my hands full with the Speed Editor but I'll see if I can take a look at one of those X-Keys in the future :)
@@MrAlexTech , it is absolutely awesome!! 68 individual keys (I think you can double it) plus the jog wheel. I use the keyboard exclusively to name/rename files. Everything else is either programmed on the mouse (play/alt k) or on the x-keys. And I mean EVERYTHING ELSE. You got to try it. Besides, in my experience, one of the best customer services I've had contact with.
I am really thinking about buying a studio license to get the speed editor just as a bonus since I'm getting a few more paid gigs that could benefit from the paid effects and acceleration. I have looked at the x-keys products a bit because I am setting up a streaming system for my church and those integrate really well with vMix. Would you be able to point me in the direction to see how you use it for Resolve because I am all for customizable controllers because I think the speed editor will be good just for the cut page and mainly for multi-cam.
@@anthonybradshaw The XKeys 68 Jog is fantastic!! As far as I know, Blackmagic does not allow any other consoles to act over color page. Only their consoles work. I do not use the Cut page at all. I use the Xkeys for my editing workflow on the Edit page. That said, as I mentioned to MAT on my comment, with 68 buttons, my hands only touch the keyboard to name/rename "things". Everything else (and I do mean, EVERYTHING) is controlled by my mouse and the console. And I still have 5 buttons unused. If I can send you a picture of it, it will give you an idea of how I programmed the keys. I don't think I will ever even enjoy editing anymore without this console. Some YT videos I saw talk about up to 60% gain in speed on edits. Hope I was clear, but if you still have questions, please do not hesitate to send them my way. If I can help...
@@oscargalvao2815 Thank you so much! I am asking for Resolve studio for Christmas so I can get the Speed Editor as a bonus to try out. I would be very interested in seeing how you have things mapped out, but I am not comfortable dropping my email just because I don't want other people to spam me haha I think I will be getting a smaller X-Keys controller for streaming at my church and I might be able to test that out and program it to give it a quick run! I love having my own custom way to do things and have my unique setup so I like the idea a lot! Thank you so much again!
I saw a review of the Tourbox some time ago and thought yeah, nah, Blackmagic is sure to release a mini version of their Editor Keyboard. As it turned out, you just had to wait a few months. I'm now waiting for mine to arrive, because, as it was with the BMPCC4K, there appears to be a huge demand. While the Tourbox clearly works, I do wonder how long components will last, as it appears cheaper than the control box that came with my dirt cheap drone. And too many controls randomly crammed into a small area.
GREAT video tutorial. By any chance do you have a print out of your key assignments that you could post for downloading? Since I know that you are an expert on DaVinci Resolve, what you have would most likely be a great set up? I'll be happy to buy you a coffee or tea. : +) BTW-- I do have the Smart Controller, and I'm just purchasing the Tourbox to use primarily with multiple other programs: Luminar NEO, Affinity Photo, Filmora 12, CapCut, etc. Finally, do you use the Smart Controller or the Tourbox controller most of the time with DaVinci? Thanks again & greeting from North East Florida, USA
I thought the same then I made the leap and got it. It’s unfortunate that pictures and videos don’t do it justice. I thought it would be a plasticity gimmick I would use a few times then put in my drawer with my loupedeck but I use it everyday. It’s so well built it almost feels like metal which was surprising. It’s so handy I hate editing without it now. I have the elite model though. Worth every penny.
The Tourbox looks great if you have no other alternative and you're on a pretty low budget (although their price has significantly increased over the last two years), but there's nowhere near enough there to draw me away from the Loupedeck CT (which I'm really looking forward to testing out against the Blackmagic Speed Editor). The CT has a LOT of versatility, but the Speed Editor talks directly to Resolves API, which opens up options the CT (and the Tourbox) will never be able to do with just mouse & keyboard simulations.
Awesome man! I was sent this a few weeks ago, but I couldn't seem to get it to work with any arrow keys or f keys. Did you figure that out? Also my hands are wayyyy too big for this lol 😂
I have mine set: upper-left scroll wheel as JKL; lower-left round wheel as one frame up/down (arrow keys); middle knob as timeline zoom in-out (extremely handy!); upper-right buttons as select all prior to playhead or after playhead; side left button A; lower-right buttons as Trim mode and Blade mode; top button as space bar. Plus the little buttons for various work.
Alex. I noticed that you programmed the left button as an undo. But it seems also that when you hold it in, it is like a Ctrl button. So my question is whether a button or knob can do dual duty, depending on whether you click it or hold it down? That is, can a button be one thing and then something else depending on what combination you apply when you are editing (sort of like doing a Ctrl, Alt,Del)?
Question: This has nothing to do with this video - Can you suggest a way of doing the old TV shut down where the image reduced to a center spot and disappeared. This is from the '50s when I was a kid back in the UK. Thanks
Nice video. Are you able to set a shortcut for speed ramping or changing speeds of a clip (25%, 50%, 400% etc.)? Also, can tourbox be used in colour or fairlight tab?
I was like that is awesome and then you mentioned no Linux support boo 👎 I'm pretty sure I would have ordered one but I don't want to spend $170 on a paper weight. Very nice video though!
I have both the Shuttle Pro and Tourbox and IMO, the jog wheel/scroll wheel on the Shuttle is not better. In fact, the TourBox has three wheels to choose from and you can assign anything you want to them where as the Shuttle's wheel is fixed as a jog wheel only. I loved my Shuttle until I got the Tourbox and because there are so many more options, there's no going back for me.
It's nice that different hardware other then brand specific can be used with Davinci. Also do you use your desktop pc build or your Zephyrus G14, if both which one do you use most for your video editing?
Hiya Greg! I use my PC 99% of the time at the moment due to all these lockdown restrictions etc. I do still use my G14 and it's great, it edits really well BUT the screen (1080p 120hz model) is not good at all. When I first got it I thought it was okay but the more I use it the more I notice it. I think the 4k model may have been the better option in terms of colour accuracy etc.
Hello mate. Nice job. Can you do the Terminator vision using DaVinci Resolve?I Think that one part of the job is ready (Cctv effect). It would be very impressive and very interesting.
Haha I haven't received it yet 😆 I've had this a few weeks now and have been meaning to make the review. Figured it'd be good to get it out before the Speed Editor to show people they have options 🙂👍
This thing looks pretty awesome, but for $170 I would expect better build quality. That silky rubbery coating is going to rub off fairly quick, and it can flake off and get little pieces of it all over the place. (I've had a thousand devices with that coating.) The wobbly scroll wheels are unacceptable. There's no excuse for such low tolerances. I've worked in manufacturing, and I know it's purely because they were cheaping out on the tooling used to fabricate the parts. This device looks like it would accomplish it's intended task quite well, but the price would definitely need to come down a lot before I buy one.
I tried this product, I can't seem to find a way to color correct with the dial or knob. Is there a solution?
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I've been using the TourBox for Capture One and also Davinci for a little while now, and I got several new tips watching your video. I think the Tourbox work very well indeed! By the way, have you shared your Resolve preset at the Tourbox site? Cheers, Eivind
i have the speed editor...used together this little gem would fill in the gaps black magic left behind with the limitations in the speed editor...across all pages of resolve...for a good price.
With Speed Editor i need to do lots of cuts on clip, those cuts are static video (no changes/movement on screen) that i need to remove from clips. Is there any good way to remove static frames from clip. Just for example: Audacity has pause removal from AUDIO (but here my ask is for video pause) In Studio version, we have 'Detect Scene Cut' but that doesn't detect/ignore small screen changes. any suggestion?
Hi Alex, I tried to make a copy of the preset, but once I click to download it, it doesn't do anything. I tried direct download and that did not help either? Do you have any other way you could share it? Thank you.
I am struggling to find the right selection for costuming buttons on my console from the list. I want to assign the timeline scroll to the knob but can't seem to find what to select to fit this :/
If you mean on the TourBox? To assign scroll wheel actions for timeline scroll, go to the left side of the console in the built-in-functions panel and find 'mouse' functions.
Greetings from S.A. That did not look comfortable at all!!!! I know it all comes down to muscle memory, but no thanks I'll wait for the speed editor. Thanks for the effort. H.
I really dislike the soft touch coating used by the tech industry. After about five or six years, the coating turns into sticky goo that must be removed. However, if it's a high-quality coating, that might not happen.
Not to hijack the video, but an alternative to the TourBox is the ShuttlePROv2. I've used it for years and I'm really happy with it. contour-design.co.uk/products/multimedia-controller/shuttlepro/
Cheap for a lot of money. knobs with no resistance Learn Controllermate or Bome and you can do this all and nore with any midi controller or gamecontroller. This is gonna give you rsi in no time. The quality of the knobs is key. Doesnt seem the case here. Nice review though.
