Toxic U.S. political themes distort view of campus Gaza protests 

The violence was started by counterprotesters and stormtroopers. This is being ignored in order to vilify the protesters and shift to that as the story rather than the genocide in Gaza.

Opposing genocide isn't antisemitism.

USA’s hypercritical democracy 😅

Joe Scarborough, an anchor on your own network, literally called the protestors "pro-hamas" a day or two ago. A statement like that is completely disqualifying and it shows he doesn't even comprehend what the protests are about.

Msnbc doing thier best to keep Israel from being held accountable.

Well, this was a relief to hear, along with Chris Hayes' related segment! I've posted extremely critical comments about the spin that has been coming out of MSNBC, and critical comments about what it has not reported on. Thank you, Alex. I certainly hope this indicates a change of "heart" when it comes to the direction your network has been taking.

I was in HS in the late 60's when the student protests against the Vietnam war were taking place. Too young to participate but old enough to pay attention. Now I admit I haven't been paying attention to these student protests. In fact I intentionally skipped yesterday's Morning Joe when it was clear that's all they were going to talk about on the show. But I tuned in today after NYPD breached Hamilton Hall. Regarding the Israel Gaza issue, I know it is complicated and won't debate it here. Frankly I'm old enough to see both sides. But the discussion I heard this morning reminded me so much of things I heard back in the 60's. "Professional agitators, provocateurs, outsiders, anarchists." I have no way of knowing if those labels are accurate now, but I do know they were lies in the 60's. Lies told about both the anti-war movement and the civil right movement. And it makes me wonder about what I'm hearing today. "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." We won't get fooled again. Or will we?

What’s really shocking, is the fact that agitators were allowed to go in and start throwing fireworks into a peaceful protest. They were given a free rain for a long time. Some situations can’t be criticised it appears!

I am appalled by the human rights violations happening in the USA. USA should stop preaching human rights to other countries.

First Amendment Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

How can we take the media and politicians seriously in November when we've seen how they've handled this.

“ Republicans go all-in on U.S. campus protests as potential election winner “ this headline is a truly sad example of the state of our politics , heartless , cynical and disappointing. America can and needs to do better .

Peter is so wonderful, thank you.

LOVE this interview

2:16 No, when people look back at this, it'll be the point at which free speech was ultimately defeated in the United States, with the passing of H.R 6090

Welcome back to the 60's. Anti-Vietnam protests became a cultural flashpoint and the actual facts got lost. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Peter is right and is saying what needs to be said, regardless of your position on this issue, this war is going to create a generation of more radicalized Palestinians and sympathizers than we've seen before. Hamas got exactly the response they wanted by leading Israel into this trap, and an added bonus of social discord in the US and around the world.

This is what a balanced and informative interview sounds like. Thanks Alex. It's good you and Chris and Ayman are at MSNBC.

Someone needs to educate our media on what is really happening in Israel. Someone needs to tell Joe Scarborough how over the last 30 years in conflicts between Israel and Palestinians 20 Palestinians have died for every Israeli. Who else behaved like that? In Germany? Someone needs to educate our media on how the people in Gaza got there after being driven from their homes at gunpoint 75 years ago!

The occupier can’t complain about the resistance.

Historically speaking, every time college students have protested at this level against the status quo, they have been proven right in the end. The people who support the police suppression here would also support the police suppression of MLK and other civil rights movements. Police are an occupying army, that serve the status quo and the current power system, even if that system is not doing what it claims it is.

Now that's relevant. Finally someone is doing their job at MSNBC.

I'm A Protestor Not A Terrorist !! -- Protest Sign

What's done in the dark will come to light

I agree with Beinart that the war as it is presently being waged is both a strategic blunder and a humanitarian tragedy, but disagree that the protest tactics being used are anything but counterproductive. Activists tend to play to their own ideological bubbles, seemingly not realizing how unreasonable, selfish, and spoiled their actions make them appear to the majority of the country.

Free Palestine ❤ Stop the wars ❤

Wow! I virtually never say this; but kudos to MSNBC and Peter Beinart

Peter you are brilliant

I'm concern in usa democracy & freedom of speech. Freedom and liberty are at risk in America.

More coverage like this please❤

Thanks to our young people for exercising their 1st amendment rights at Columbia and all the the other protests that did and are taking place across America! Stay strong in your beliefs and continue with your good trouble 🙏

And surprise surprise, most aren’t even students.

While I do not support Netanyahu and his far right government, or the current campaign in Gaza, My entire life I have supported Israel’s right to exist. countless of my ancestors were murdered simply for being Jewish, not just in Germany, but in Russia, Spain, Hungary, Lithuania, & Ukraine. Despite this, I don’t think Israel has any right to do whatever they want, they need to be held to the same standard as any other US ally. I have never understood unconditional aid, for any country. Palestinians deserve statehood, with economic opportunities and freedom of movement. they are more than the terroristic leaders in Gaza, who before the wore disapproved of Hamas and wanted to maintain the ceasefire that had been in place since 2021 at a rate of over 60%. Over 50% of Gazans polled supported a two state solution. It’s war that is furthering the divide, and you can’t really blame them. Over half of gazans weren’t even old enough to vote for Hamas in 2007, the world shouldn’t punish them for the actions of their elders, who have led them towards a path of violence and “martyrdom”.

Wild how one group of people can take over others land, and now definitions of words without pushback. Hmm.

The Media makes the sensationalism and the MEDIA makes this impossible! THE END

War: a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

Alex Wagner is so good.

Them talking about this anti-Semitic? Will they get thrown on the floor and arrested when they walk out of the studio? Will the fireworks spark in there faces?

Awesome discussion thank you

We need to see more interviews of Peter Beinart and Jelani Cobb! Thank you to you both! We need more people/voices like yours in the world!

These students didn’t even protest for their own rights. No wonder they are surprised to face consequences. They think protesting is entertainment.

Yes, we in Israel begin to see what few of us saw - this operation has been doomed to a failure from the beginning

Finally 🤓...Some truth is being said about what is Really Happening ‼‼‼‼‼‼

*THANK YOU STUDENTS !* 👍 *THE LEADERS OF TOMORROW - CARE ABOUT JUSTICE TODAY ! !* 👍

I went to those protests. They are not peaceful…

Legally speaking here. They were fine up until the point they started breaking into buildings. Once they did that. All leverage disappeared. So they really brought all of this on themselves

It's always fun to watch MSNBC's satirical twist on events. This show isnt as fun as Rachel Maddow, but still fun.👍

"DISSENT WITHOUT CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE IS CONSENT" D.H. Thoreau

Running toward a civil war...i just wonder if they know how to stop a civil war.

Nah, this was absolutely a soft pitch interview. Here’s the thing with U.S. military aid, Iran just sent something like 300 missiles + drones towards Israel in an attack, It takes intercept missiles and other ammunition to stop that type of attack, and those weapons obviously have to be restocked or Israel will run out, like Ukraine did…. And then what happens?

I'm amazed that a conversation of this quality took place on MSNBC.

That's so deep; very compelling also! I detect a very complex and highly-nuanced inflection point of unprecedented magnitude.

Shades of 1968. Outside Agitators lol

What's going on? Why all of a sudden are you allowing more thought?

have you spoken about al jazeera's spiritual guide from its inception until now, the recently departed al qaradawi, & his statements regarding the jewish people, israel, & his influence on hamas, please? because it's all very well saying that you want people to be able to voice their opinions, but if you aren't actively helping them to hold considered opinions on the topic in question, & worse, if doing so is actually squarely in your wheelhouse & you're sweeping the issue under the rug, allowing them to act as living conduits / patsies for genocidal cosmic warriors hoping to deny the jewish people any safe space, then you're so far out of line it's mind-blowing

I disagree with these guys...

And they wonder why their ratings are in the toilet lol

Janitor said he was held hostage sound familiar oct7

In the effort of fairness, regarding the distortion of fact and all, why is there no mention of law violations by protesters? You know, the entire reason for the arrests. Labeling one's self a "protester" is not a free pass to violate established law. And if the distortion of fact is an issue, it would be wise for all involved to tell ALL related facts. Interesting how they have no interest in discussing ALL of the facts, isn't it? And do not waste effort asking. You already know the violated law(s) which forced the arrests. Asking will not reverse nor undo the actions of those involved.

Excellent guests, excellent conversation!

Ummm. These are riots. Not protests.

So did MSNBC finally get permission to talk about this in the same way that younger people have been for the past 7 months?

Yes they do.

Great segment Alex

The way liberal cities and liberal campuses allowed this to escalate is on them. Florida did not. Again, evidence of failed leadership, change is needed.

As usual, its a vote for Biden ad. Both candidates have the same goals and views. Toxic intervention by Government into campuses, planted agitation and media lying about the extent of violence is horrible. I live here and have spoken to the NYPD. It's respectful and tolerant. Militaristic intervention is not helping.

The students are right.

Everyone loves a little Anti-Genocide Protest.

The more panel discussions w/Dean (and Professor) Cobb, Professor Beinart and Alex Wagner, the more informed we all are. Conversations like this are genuinely *helpful*.

Australia recognises the State of Israel. Australia does not recognise any such state of "Palestine", because there is no such nation state. I am PROUD to be Australian. We must support our friends in Israel in their fight against terrorism.

It stops being protest once the people protesting start breaking laws... no one is above the law - RIGHT?

I've not gotten a good answer to this; If anti Zionism is antisemitism, is anti Nazism also anti German?

Little college girls wearing keffiya should see Screams Before Silence and know they would've received the same treatment as the girls at the peace concert, by the people their protest is supporting.

Fantastic panel Alex!! Thank you 👍

Finally, mainstream news media is brave enough to get into the weeds on this issue. The students are right

Instead of these students protesting and camping out, they should all just band together and vote these politician don't want to listen to them out. And vote for someone that will.

So the Rhodesians were right

Trump and prison, sounds wonderful to me.

We have the right to protest in this country. You do not the right to commit vandalism, destroying property, you do not have the right to keep other students from freely moving about the campuses, or threaten them when they do. You do not have the right to get in the roads and stop traffic, when you do that you are holding people hostage , and that's illegal. And to the people chanting Death to America, it is very insulting, and infuriating to people that happen to love America, warts and all. So to those that hate America , your welcome to leave any time you like.

Tragic? Protesters forced this ending

Ayman Mohyeldin … mmm wonder what loyalties this guy has? Mother is Palestinian and father is Egyptian. And worked for the “illustrious” Al Jezeera. 😂😂😂

Why are the city police involved at all?

Biden is an example of an unexamined life. "Bad faith", Sartre would say.

As a Muslim Palestinian American growing up in a post-911 era, my people have endured alot and still are. But these individuals give me so much hope for the future. I was tearing up. It was refreshing. Thank you to everyone speaking sensibly. We have been protesting against massacres in Gaza for decades, along roads under the hot sun only looking to get honks of support. That's all we have been able to muster against the zionist empire. Professors who tried to teach people on the issue would get be jailed, many families were targeted.

Palestinians need to rise up against Hamas. Israel is not their enemy.

Democrats for Palestine.🌊🌈🇺🇦💙🇵🇸🇵🇸

Finally some sanity. Thank you Alex wagner for actually airing the truth

same as what honhkong happened

They didn't like the "academic" responses, because look who currently sits in the House GOP. We're lucky they're in double digit IQ territory.

spin the spin

As I start my morning cup of Joe, I am glad to have seen this on MSNBC first thing. Now I will probably hear MSNBC's morning show which grossly contributes to the toxic themes so very well discussed in this segment. 'Wake up' MSNBC to your morning show's negative contributions on this topic.

Politics warps the brain and years of diverse human oppression has signaled some uncertain signs among those in leadership roles. Stop dwelling on the past making decisions with your life choices and how you treat people. We all have to shed the past and create a better future for everyone. Doesn't matter how you look or where you come from. It doesn't matter what color your skin is. It doesn't matter if your male female or other. What matters is how you treat people and if your role of authority is doing the right thing for ALL people. Politics can't be one-sided and divided. Unification with global input by the people is how things change for the better. Government in chaos and nobody really knows who is in charge. They are following orders from long past dead people who started world wars. They are just covering up the problems and buying time to fix years of corrupted legislation that really never gets fixed. If you want serious change then world leaders need to agree to one thing to begin. Start closing down the monetary system and rapidly converting to a world that operates without money. The government legislation is so complex and twisted that no normal person can understand. It is so easy to use a common tongue language that specifies a description of what it pertains. We need more common sense in the government and the people running the country don't know how to simplify to the easiest solution to benefit all. How easy it would be without a budget creating economic chaos and ration resources based on need. It isn't that hard to see what is going on. They don't won't to lose the power of slavery to money because it keeps them in control of everyones lives. The monetary system is a inhumane system of slavery by design. Humanities competitive nature of supporting sides is in question now. Sporting events across college campuses, protesting rallies, political election scams to raise money and favoritism, marketing that targets other companies, investing in markets will come into question buying and shorting to manipulate company values, even the president of the united states targets political figures and country leaders with hate and discrimination and so many other things are in uncertainty for the future. Congress rapidly created another law to cover up freedoms. Look closer before you judge any part of this action by the government. It all has to do with money. This is the world we live in and some people have difficulty with stressful situations. The world is borderline with so much fear and anxiety over everything it is so sad. It is time to change how we perceive life and create change for everyone. The world is in chaos from global climate change, inflation, conflicts, government pressures with human rights, taxes and so many other things. All issues seem to lead to the need for money in the end. Its the divide that makes humanity weak. It is the government politics that divides us around the world. Religion and politics has been used to long controlling the people of the world and it has to stop right now. God is a misconception and governments advanced to using politics in the same way to manipulate the people of the world. We are all the same people just a little different from years of oppression. Unity starts by eliminating the need for money. We can become a peaceful world under unity but not dominating with competition. Debating who is right and who is wrong never works and causes chaos and fear. Faith should be in humanity not some belief structure that can't be proven that exist. Look around the world today and say to yourself who really has the power to change lives. Praying for something doesn't do anything but give so psychological benefit. Change happens when people make things happen. We all control our destiny so change it.The problem with government is they are making choices based on dems reps and indep voting. The government needs to be changed completely for the people. These people continue to cause more problems than solutions. An easy solution for the future is a public vote for everything. Abandon the monetary system the world is using for a resource rationing policy without value. Remove the need for money and the world will create easy solutions to problems. The people should have the voice not an autocracy government that manipulates billions of lives on this planet. Public voting online could make decisions rapidly without debating. How to solve climate change and cost of living crisis? simple question to answer. Abandon the monetary system and eliminate the need for money. Easiest solution to change the world. Reduce climate change by canceling the need for money will collapse demand for resources by 90% and halts any more issues with green house gases. The world could literally change to renewables rapidly and close all fossil fuels down. If the solution to fix problems around the world can't be fixed because of money then remove money from every problem on this planet and 99.99% of all problems go away. Like if you agree. We don't need a president we need a uniformed global government that every country is apart of that creates stability to meet the resource demand of every human being on the planet. A common sense leadership with smart people that can manage resources not politicians that want power to manipulate. We need professionalism and intelligence in leadership by all countries. People will change and evolve if humanitarian needs are available to all people of the world without the need for money. Money is the corruption in modern society and it we have to say no to the slavery of money. If you go online right now and surf every single negative issue the world faces on a daily basis it all leads to money so why are we still using slave money.

What meg mccain aaid. Hope dems can fix that bc they are loaing my respect

Trump's existence in politics makes rational discussion on the issues impossible. Get rid of him and let's get back to substance, not the tantrums of a toddler-in-chief.

Everyone whines about antisemitism but think it's perfectly acceptable to be antieveryone else. I don't see anyone else who gets this support. They're not the only ones who have been treated horribly😡. No one has stolen their land and there's more of them now than before. Remove their magic status!

10 comments but only 2 showing lol fascism at its finest

De - Trump

Free America from AIPAC ..

I must tell you I voted for Biden last time, but now when I saw this radical left for me it’s worst then the radical right. All I need it’s Trump changing his position on Ukraine and supporting them, and I’m definitely voting for Trump. The Democratic Party is going way far to the left with its ideas and that’s sad.

Holy Bible states over and over that Israel will stand as a nation until the return of Jesus. 144k Jews remaining will repent and trust Jesus as Lord. Now is the time for us to stand with Israel and repent for our sins and trust in Jesus to receive salvation from wrath to come! Amen