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Toyota GR Supra 3.0 MT | 1 Year Review! 

Talon Sei
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Hard to believe it has been 1 year since picking up this car. Hopefully a year from now I am still loving it as much as I am today!
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Video Chapters
1 Year of SUPRA 0:00 - 0:49
BMW HATE? 0:49 - 2:33
MK4 vs MK5 2:23 - 4:25
How I got the car 4:25 - 5:52
Modifications 5:52 - 12:26
Cabin Features 12:26 - 16:33
Start the Drive 16:33 - 18:35
Comfort Mode 18:35 - 21:16
Sport Driving experience 21:16 - 28:50
Practicality / Final Thoughts 28:50 - 33:05
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Full Supra Playlist - • Mk5 Supra Build!
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@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc 5 месяцев назад
As a 2023 MKV 6MT owner for also a year now, I agree with everything you said. Toyota purists are going to hate, but it's a good collaboration. I've owned a lot of cars in the past and this is the most fun car I have ever owned. I look for excuses to go grab groceries in it and run errands and take it out of the garage.
@MaddNomad1015
@MaddNomad1015 5 месяцев назад
I get where they’re coming from other then the whining. It doesn’t show what Toyota is capable of, but it’s still a good car
@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc 5 месяцев назад
@@MaddNomad1015 Wanna know the problem with the purist mindset? The MKIV Supra stopped being sold in the 90's because of poor sales. Toyota also stopped production on the LFA because nobody bought it. You tell me if Toyota was smart with the collab. The same people whining I'm sure were the same people who bought MKIVs and LFAs... yeah right
@MaddNomad1015
@MaddNomad1015 5 месяцев назад
@@chrisginoc Oh I 100% agree with bro. That’s all legendary Toyotas other than the GR Yaris honestly where they become popular like that after they die off.
@speeddemon311
@speeddemon311 4 месяца назад
B58 is legendary already, and naive haters will eventually hopefully get it!
@Erkkremlinklum
@Erkkremlinklum 3 месяца назад
It’s sad that this car is getting so much love from journalist and owners yet sales are hurting
@bagndux
@bagndux 5 месяцев назад
Don’t care what anyone says that car is sick as fuck!!!
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
🙏🏼🙏🏼
@bagndux
@bagndux 5 месяцев назад
@@TalonSei Me and the wife bought a 2023 Camry TRD. It’s not as cool as your but really nice.
@californialosangeles5011
@californialosangeles5011 Месяц назад
I feel like BMW and Toyota are the best to collaborate You got the ultimate driving experience (BMW) and as a Bmw owner the best ride ive owned by far and you got Toyota known for their reliability so put them together and you got probably the best car to come out in recent years
@JustBKoz
@JustBKoz 5 месяцев назад
Love see the Supra. Got to love all the Turbo noises!
@dennisdjy
@dennisdjy Месяц назад
That is fantastic!!! The wrap, the orange trim, the body skirts, that wing. Stupendous!!
@jmanlevan
@jmanlevan 5 месяцев назад
Talon! Great meeting you at the Adams car show last year at The Broncos stadium in the rain! My Supra was at TRU earlier this week for an intake, downpipe, exhaust and lowering springs thanks to your video of the work they did with yours!
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
Very cool! Nice meeting you too ✌🏼
@Tmoua
@Tmoua 4 месяца назад
Awesome review! As a 23 mkv owner as well i agree with everything you said. I love the way she drives as well. Handles great and shifts even better. The greatest part that not many cars can say is the supra feels like it has a soul.
@martylucas8557
@martylucas8557 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing Talon. What an awesome sports car. As usual I really like the SEI touches you put on the Supra it to personalize. It looks, sounds and drives amazingly well!
@hiddenvalleyranchman
@hiddenvalleyranchman 2 месяца назад
Thanks for this review, it was super helpful and this review helped me finalize my decision to purchase. I just took delivery last week and I am loving it.
@bobb.7899
@bobb.7899 Месяц назад
Great video. Loved what you did to your car. I was lucky enough to get 1 of the 500 A91-MT’s in CU Later Gray. Added aftermarket catted down pipe, aluminum intake pipes and performance air box. Carbon fiber front splitter and side skirts. On rear added Verus engineering high wing and rear diffuser. Powder coated the stainless exhaust tips black. Absolutely love the car and has exceeded all my expectations. Zero problems after 1 1/2 years of ownership. Wish you many miles of enjoyable driving.
@connordunning7768
@connordunning7768 2 месяца назад
Great review! Cheers from a fellow ‘23 6MT owner in Golden! Assuming I will see this around at some point!
@adamb2619
@adamb2619 4 месяца назад
I think the initial hate on the car was that it wasn't a manual. But like you said, once that manual was introduced, it truly opened up to what others thought, and rightlyfully so, the Supra should have been. Great car and nice video!
@TheZomfatherPtii
@TheZomfatherPtii 5 месяцев назад
I've celebrated two birthdays waiting for mine lol. Thankfully its getting PPF right now and I should be in mine soon!
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
Worth the wait 🙌🏼
@happiknife7716
@happiknife7716 5 месяцев назад
Looks like a blast to drive ✌️
@clplusp8762
@clplusp8762 4 месяца назад
TS, My ‘22 auto is on a basic Stg 2 FEMTO bm3 with OEM hardware save for the downpipe. OTS maps for Pump 93 and E30 blend. E30 has a notable power increase in the mid/top end. I’ve preferred 93pump. Haven’t dyno’d it yet but it’s showing 500-530 hp on the power screen. Feels great!
@JPTinioMedia
@JPTinioMedia 2 месяца назад
I got a 24 Manual Supra and everything you said is spot on.
@DipMaster20
@DipMaster20 2 месяца назад
yeo, I am considering the supra as a daily driver. Thing is, I live in the city and often there is a good amount of traffic. I don't know how to drive a manual, but seems so fun. Is it worth getting a manual supra as a commuter car? I don't wanna spend the money and realize its not for me. So just looking for some advice
@gangsta_pigeon8023
@gangsta_pigeon8023 Месяц назад
@@DipMaster20 not that guy, and don’t have a supra. However, manual is easy once you grasp it. This supra is simpler than regular manuals because it does the rev matching for you unless if you disable it. I learned to drive manual in a parking lot within an hour of trying, it’s a skill you’ll never forget, and it makes driving so much more satisfying and fun.
@CozyboyJam
@CozyboyJam 5 месяцев назад
As an owner of an M550i, we’re kinda like half-brothers haha. Build is sick. Gotta admit I haven’t been on this channel since a lot of the gun content has gone away, but I think I’ll be coming back regularly now. Hope you’ve been well🤙🏼
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
Welcome back 👊🏼
@Samoffgrid
@Samoffgrid 5 месяцев назад
Great review! I love what you’ve done with it. Gives me major fomo
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
You’ll be in the F&F gang soon enough 💪🏼
@HD_Santa
@HD_Santa 2 месяца назад
The critical question is, "Are you a true car enthusiast?" I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment. Who cares about collaborations between manufacturers? For instance, I once owned a Harley Davidson Night Rod Special. Interestingly, its engine was designed by Porsche. Despite this partnership, the bike remained a true Harley Davidson and was an absolute beast on the road. * That's awesome that you can tune out the cold start. I appreciate what you said about not pissing off the neighbors, especially peeps like me who live in a Cul-de-sac and in an HOA 🤬
@datad00d
@datad00d 5 месяцев назад
Great video! I really like the mods you've chosen, very nicely done. I'm in the process of trying to get a 2023 or 2024 Supra of my own. As an owner, I'm hoping maybe you can answer a couple questions and clarify a few things for me. I've seen other videos where they mention if you have the manual trans, the car doesn't come equipped with adaptive cruise, but you mention at 14:01 that it does. The steering wheel controls on the manuals don't appear to have the "follow distance" adjustment buttons that the automatics do. So just looking for some clarification on whether you were just making a general statement about the Supra having adaptive cruise available, or if your manual car actually has adaptive cruise. I'm also curious about the "pumped in" exhaust sound that apparently these cars have, where the speakers pump the exhaust sound into the car. Does the tune, and/or the after market exhaust eliminate that, or is the sound still pumped in? Finally, I'm guessing by unlocking the ECU, that pretty much voids any warranty the car has. I guess if someone is buying the car to mod it, the warranty isn't of much concern, but just curious. Sorry for the enormously long comment/question. I think this is one of the best "review/ownership" vids I've seen, so really well done. Thanks for putting it together and sharing with the rest of us.
@BrandonAgpaoa
@BrandonAgpaoa 4 месяца назад
Love the review and vid bro. Love the car and build. I have a 2020 Tundra, so in keeping with the Toyota brand, in highly considering buying a Supra. I'm debating between the VA 3.0 Supra, Nissan R35, or Nissan Z, but leaning towards the supra. I hope you don't mind that I copy parts of your build.
@MrHmongrice
@MrHmongrice 4 месяца назад
This car has grown on me after playing GT7. I was racing against one and the deep exhaust note and burble got me.
@davidenriquez-mx2ul
@davidenriquez-mx2ul 4 месяца назад
Apples and Oranges for me since I was cross shopping this and the Honda Civic Type R. I come from having owned BMW M3's and M4's but want something cheaper and maybe as more fun to tune. Your thorough review gave me some guidance to go with the MKV 6MT. I would kit it out similarly to how you set it up, (since I follow your CCW recommendations :) Thanks for the high quality video.
@tsim4139
@tsim4139 5 месяцев назад
My first car was a 1987 Toyota Supra with the t-top and chrome rims.
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
Hell yeah brother 💪🏼
@tommy516
@tommy516 2 месяца назад
Got that lookout mountain drive in there! ;)
@AnT_EyE
@AnT_EyE 3 месяца назад
I went with the 2017 BRZ, sold that for a profit 2 years later and found a 2019 BRZ with only 6k miles on it (in 2022), completely stock. Supra was my next choice, just a Subaru fanboy at heart.
@mtnyotas
@mtnyotas 5 месяцев назад
Gonna copy this build... every choice was perfect.
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
👊🏼👊🏼
@clplusp8762
@clplusp8762 4 месяца назад
Sei, I’m surprised you haven’t changed the steering wheel yet. I’m eager to do mine as it represents my most interactive tactile interface. But for you, it would only represent your left hand interface while your right hand rows gears.
@user-ih2oo8kd2m
@user-ih2oo8kd2m 4 месяца назад
I was also going for a GR86 and then completely changed my mind after they announced the MT for the Supra. Got my MT back in December. Personally the lows are terrible on the speakers, but that's really the only complaint. How's your boost logic catback holding up? I heard lots of mixed reviews on it. Valves rattling, welds cracking, etc... I really want one but have been holding off.
@oceanswithnoend
@oceanswithnoend 4 месяца назад
Cars goated af. Supra is looking very clean. Dude they need to drop a new MR2.
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 4 месяца назад
That would be amazing
@duhr34l20
@duhr34l20 4 месяца назад
Hi there! Moving to CO from CA. Was thinking about getting a supra but not sure if its a reliable car around CO especially if theres snow. Thoughts? Thank you! Beautiful car btw
@bengarrison5256
@bengarrison5256 2 месяца назад
The performance guages in the settings menu are pretty accurate from the different Supras I’ve been in. Mine sits right at the 400 range another buddies dynode at 475 ish and his guages were reading around 465-470. So off by a few from the day I but I would say those are pretty accurate. Also after having it tuned the range went from 400 indicated to 700 indicated
@ElectricPeakKydex
@ElectricPeakKydex 5 месяцев назад
Do you have land in Montana? I only ask cause you have never talked about it on channel if you do but i see your place MT represent! Kalispell baby! But really just wondered haha
@hawkeshots
@hawkeshots 5 месяцев назад
post some autocross events you drive this upcoming year! DO IT!
@garrett21
@garrett21 5 месяцев назад
Oh nice you’re in CO. For some reason I thought you were east coast like Vermont or something.
@albrustmeyer753
@albrustmeyer753 Месяц назад
I wonder if you can modify to delete the cupholder and close the hose of the cup for good make it one solid cushion for the arm and you don’t have to worry about a couple 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@tigerbiterhater
@tigerbiterhater Месяц назад
As a previous 2021 A91 owner. Only thing that I hate about the MK5 is the fake vents and the fact that Toyota should’ve let us have the MT earlier. Was disappointed when after I got mine. The MT came. Still miss my A91. Basket 🧺 Handle wing looks so good on the MK5.
@Zupra4
@Zupra4 2 месяца назад
Wish I had the manual, but the zf8 isn’t the worst transmission so I can live with the it!
@anthony-taylorlombardi724
@anthony-taylorlombardi724 2 месяца назад
The car is sweet, what do we think of the 24 45th
@stedy142
@stedy142 5 месяцев назад
I LOVE BMW M Cars, but recent BMW styling choices, bloat and prices have really turned me off. I now have a Supra on order because it reminds me of all the good stuff that BMW performance cars used to offer. While many old school Toyota fans might not like it, old school BMW fans should seriously consider it.
@FunCares
@FunCares Месяц назад
The cup placement is the same for a Celica 7th gen!
@heh2k
@heh2k 4 месяца назад
Where's the car? I can't see it. Is it camouflaged?
@K3vokiller
@K3vokiller 4 месяца назад
the only thing i dont like about the mk5 is the interior. i hope it gets an more modern upgrade at some point
@crackedbrainOG
@crackedbrainOG 4 месяца назад
I'm in the NON- hater club! When it first came out it seemed like I was one of the only people who thought it was a sick looking car. I wonder how the stock clutch will hold up to increased power. I haven't heard anything but it is still fairly new and the amount of them is few.
@Mrpancake72
@Mrpancake72 4 месяца назад
How do you disable the hill assist? I wasn't able to on mine
@will4evermoore
@will4evermoore 3 месяца назад
I enjoy my car also BUT that damn Apple car play and Toyota Supra command keep dropping. Does anyone know how to fix this phone connect issue
@kimdotnet8151
@kimdotnet8151 28 дней назад
Someone else in Colorado dyno’d their stock 3.0 no tune and clocked in at 420hp.
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 28 дней назад
Those numbers sound way off. If stock made 420 then mine must make 515+. Now I really have to get this dynod
@kimdotnet8151
@kimdotnet8151 28 дней назад
@@TalonSei that’s what I thought. I told a lot of others and they aren’t surprised since apparently BMW is known for advertising a lower rating. Someone in Florida dyno’d at 380 on a very hot and humid day. Who knows, I guess there is only one way to figure out lol
@invasion1824
@invasion1824 4 месяца назад
I will get one of these in a year or two… I hope… I’m in love. What a car. Beautiful! ❤ BTW, will the automatic transmission be quicker than the manual?
@dannysan1272
@dannysan1272 2 месяца назад
Yes
@invasion1824
@invasion1824 2 месяца назад
@@dannysan1272 change of plans. Getting one this month!!!
@dannysan1272
@dannysan1272 2 месяца назад
@@invasion1824 get the manual though.
@invasion1824
@invasion1824 2 месяца назад
@@dannysan1272 I got the A/T!
@dannysan1272
@dannysan1272 2 месяца назад
@@invasion1824 Automatics are for women and queer men. Your man-card has been terminated.
@saulescamilla5213
@saulescamilla5213 Месяц назад
Where did you get that wrap or what’s it called I want it on my motorcycle
@TalonSei
@TalonSei Месяц назад
I designed it (SEI Camo) and you can order it from Lucid Wraps in Denver Colorado
@JPTinioMedia
@JPTinioMedia 2 месяца назад
Car collaborations are everywhere. Didnt see people raging at Chrysler/Dodge when mitsubishi powered their eagle talons.
@Chocobohunter
@Chocobohunter 2 месяца назад
Im torn between supra mt or rs5
@mickred04
@mickred04 4 месяца назад
I’ve never understood the hate this car gets due to the collaboration with BMW. All I wanted was a turbo six with a manual. They gave me that.
@obaidalali5587
@obaidalali5587 2 месяца назад
Best Toyota Sport car 🥲
@mikemellon80
@mikemellon80 2 месяца назад
The 2023 Supra with manual is an awesome car. If you don’t think so you are either lying or you are an enthusiast with very deep pockets and in the market for Porsche or Ferrari tier cars
@davidjd123
@davidjd123 4 дня назад
Exactly " Are you even a real car enthusiast" IVe owned a M3, toyotas, I have the GTR 35 I owned a s2000, motorcycles, And I plan on buying another M3 later on, I like cars the drive well, I dont stick to one brand. When I heard BMW was calabing with Toyota I thought that was a awesome thing, its not the first time Germany and Japan joined together.
@saivyia
@saivyia 5 месяцев назад
2jz gte was a collab between yamaha so I don’t know what people are on about….
@cooperscott6574
@cooperscott6574 4 месяца назад
Hows the reliability on it and cost of service. Legitimate question. Once my truck is paid off im stuck between a supra and a mustang
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 4 месяца назад
Like I mentioned in the video, I have had no problems in the first year and 6,500 miles now. Maintenance cost is just like any other car and since Toyota had such a big part in developing the B58, I think it will be reliable for a long time.
@cooperscott6574
@cooperscott6574 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the response I wasn't able to finish the video yet was just curious
@ash2092013
@ash2092013 19 дней назад
i between this and the mustang too! I owned a mx5 at some point and i feel like the stang would have more space for adjusting the seats. which for me right now is a huge plus.
@570Jawn
@570Jawn 5 месяцев назад
What lens is this shot with?
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
15-35 / 24-70 go pros and even a point and shoot.
@TreyBugatti
@TreyBugatti 5 месяцев назад
Damn now I want a manual Supra 😂
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
I’ll throw ya the keys to this when you make it out to Colorado 🤘🏼
@soapa4279
@soapa4279 4 месяца назад
As a owner of a 2022 model since Nov 2021, the "BMW" hateness has drastically reduced. Most people realize now how good of a car it is, and how powerful the B58 is, they respect it a lot more. Of course there are a few of those living in the past and cry about it being a BMW still. Typically they're also the people that can't even afford one.
@JuiceOg1
@JuiceOg1 3 месяца назад
I just sold my 22 Supra premium. She was fun but I sold because man the value crashed bad. Got the new tundra limited with the xp.
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 3 месяца назад
Automatic cars like the Supra will never hold value like MTs
@Johnwilliammoss
@Johnwilliammoss 5 месяцев назад
That year felt like 3 weeks 😅
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
Seriously 😳
@peterromanjournal
@peterromanjournal 4 месяца назад
Dude, that is deer creek - ill dm you.
@nicks1137
@nicks1137 2 месяца назад
You know if Toyota would have called this the new Celica, then NOBODY would have cared....but the fact that they called this a Supra, and it was suppose to be a replacement for the iconic Mark 4 supra is a travesty in many enthusiast's minds....including mine!
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 2 месяца назад
Celicas are rad and if they brought them back I’d probably drive one.
@DengekiVR
@DengekiVR 4 месяца назад
Once I pay off my GR86, Im getting a Supra.
@Barbwire710
@Barbwire710 4 месяца назад
I paid off my GR86, and don’t think the Supra/Z4 are direct replacements for the driving experience you get with the twins. All I can say is test drive one first if you haven’t already..the Supra is definitely much faster/cooler looking to normal people, but much more insulated with worse visibility.
@albrustmeyer753
@albrustmeyer753 Месяц назад
Beautiful 🤩😍 car 🫡
@MrCovert23
@MrCovert23 5 месяцев назад
The next Supra needs to be a TOYOTA ONLY machine
@Barbwire710
@Barbwire710 4 месяца назад
If the rumors on the SupraMKV forums are right, it will be. But it will also be much more expensive without the BMW collab.
@paulmoons
@paulmoons 2 месяца назад
@@Barbwire710LMFAO. No.
@paulmoons
@paulmoons 2 месяца назад
What? Like the 86? The next Supra will be electric.. like everything else.
@Barbwire710
@Barbwire710 2 месяца назад
@@paulmoons not everything is moving to full electric. The next 86 and Supra are still rumored to have an engine..no idea what you’re talking about.
@paulmoons
@paulmoons 2 месяца назад
@@Barbwire710I hope you aren't referring to the Best Car rumors which also suggest the mythical GRMN will have an S58 in it. It won't by the way. Anyone who has half a brain (and is following Supra development) knows this is 100% fake news. As for electrification, governments worldwide are clamping down on ICE regulations.. the time of the manual, rear wheel drive, ICE sports car are numbered.
@Digiphex
@Digiphex 4 месяца назад
I'd probably lay back my golf bag on the passengers side.
@DyerAutoMotive
@DyerAutoMotive 4 месяца назад
I may be wrong, but I thought our cars didn’t have adaptive cruise when they have a manual?
@T.Watts89
@T.Watts89 5 месяцев назад
Never heard of an Odb2 port! Lol I'm sure he just misspoke.....I hope! 😂
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 5 месяцев назад
OBD-2*
@christopherscinta5207
@christopherscinta5207 4 месяца назад
MT doesn’t come with adaptive cruise. Unless yours is an anomaly. Nice review.
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 4 месяца назад
AT does come with adaptive cruise tho.
@guysenpauline
@guysenpauline 5 месяцев назад
Brah but that wrap is kinda crazy. I mean come on, right?
@jmanlevan
@jmanlevan 5 месяцев назад
It’s part of his Company branding. Its theme kind of matches his Tacoma too.
@CarsOverPeople
@CarsOverPeople 4 месяца назад
Dawg… it’s not safe for YOU to turn your car on in an enclosed garage (unless it’s a massive garage)… The exhaust fumes are not good for your health & home.
@phill4337
@phill4337 Месяц назад
What im hearing about the features included with the manual: Its not actually a manual. Its a "reach down and pretend ur changing gear" but we will take care of the rest. How can it be called a real manual if there is automatic rev matching? Makes zero sense
@TalonSei
@TalonSei Месяц назад
Which can be disabled… you must have skipped that whole part or you have selective hearing.
@phill4337
@phill4337 Месяц назад
@@TalonSei I had to leave mid video bc I farted so nasty the room became unbearable
@alexv5581
@alexv5581 28 дней назад
Not my taste for the cosmetics but it's definitely a great car
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 4 месяца назад
Why are we readdressing the bmw aspect of this car. Dude it’s been beat to death and death and death. Please stop ffs.
@jankilo3682
@jankilo3682 5 месяцев назад
Love Toyotas but this is much more BMW.
@scottubz
@scottubz 4 месяца назад
Lol hate its a bmw on the inside and the engine outside has looks, like the supra dont get my wrong the new is cool but its has nothing on the original. No matter what they do to it. u get in and think bmw and im more amg fan than a bmw fan the original amg not the new one they used to be hand made and now everything is built on a machine i get it has more hp and torque than the original but u keep trying to justify the car to make your purchase feel better i get it lol some people are just more down with new tech vs having to drop a engine into something and put all this money into it. Not that your not putting money into the new one but u out both togther and line them up and have maximum capabilities than id still choose the older generation its way more sexier if thats a word 😂😂😂 cool car but in my opinion a waste of money 😅 depending on who your talking to. Dont get me wrong cool car just has nothing on the older....nothing
@TalonSei
@TalonSei 4 месяца назад
So not a car enthusiast… got it 👍🏼😂
@paulmoons
@paulmoons 2 месяца назад
You realise that a stock MKIV is slower in a straight line than a stock 2024 86 right. Go take your meds.
@infam0usP
@infam0usP 4 месяца назад
as a 2023 GR86 owner, I’m gonna have to slightly disagree that the Supra is more fun to drive (granted I test drove a used 2.0 with automatic, my 86 is a manual) but it’s def a beautiful car. if later down the line Toyota makes a next gen Supra with a Boxer engine OR the GR Corolla engine, I’d be more inclined to buy one. it just feels weird driving a Japanese coupe with a German engine in it
@paulmoons
@paulmoons 2 месяца назад
Hahah.. The 2.0 Supra is an 86 with a better body.. and faster. And the 2.0 has nothing on the 3.0. Why would they regress to a Boxer engine that is far far inferior to the B58? 86 owners are in another league. 😅
@infam0usP
@infam0usP 2 месяца назад
@@paulmoons numbers don’t lie. Toyota sold A LOT more 86s than 2.0 Supras in 2023 (they only sold 2652 Supras overall, huge drop from 4952 in 2022) and it will very likely happen again this year
@paulmoons
@paulmoons 2 месяца назад
@@infam0usPYou're right, numbers don't lie: The 86 is A LOT slower than even the 2.0 Supra. The 86 is also A LOT cheaper than even the 2.0 Supra. Thank god Toyota didn't see it fit to sell the 2.0 in my country!
@infam0usP
@infam0usP 2 месяца назад
@@paulmoons and that slower car outsells the Supra by several thousand more globally lmao. spin it however you want, your denial is hilarious
@paulmoons
@paulmoons 2 месяца назад
​@@infam0usPHahaha.. So it might come as a surprise that cooking model Camrys or Corollas outsell the 86? But you're right.. the 86 also outsold the SF90 Stradale, so the 86 must be a better car. 😂Thank-you for confirming that not only is 86 a car model designation, but also a rudimentary indication of a driver's IQ. 💁‍♂
@stupidaccountlinking
@stupidaccountlinking 3 месяца назад
Have you had this out at HPR?
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