Happened to me servicing at home. Fortunately, I realized I’d thrown it out with the filter and bought a new one. No damage done when replaced. Filter still intact and firm. Very useful video.
And it's so much of an improvement for the environment for the manufacturers to regress from a good spin on steel filter.....with built in pierced steel centre... to a cheap and nasty plastic housing with a removable tube up the guts...and an engine rebuild.....
This style of oil filter is not new for Land Cruiser, the H engine of the late 70s early 80s had the centre oil passage bolt retainer to support the element - it never failed. What's wrong with design engineers of today? Land Cruisers had good diesel engines untill the 200 series. In this era new is not better, for example look at the 300 series.
Nothing new under the sun. These paper type filters were the standard before the steel can type filters were devised, now reverting back to 1920's technology.
On any car when replacing the filter, open the box and compare the new filter to the old one. If there are extra parts on or in the filter, they are not part of the filter and should be refitted to the engine with the new unit. To perform this properly you will need at least 1 and preferably 2 Mk1 eyeballs.
Brilliant video Mate Yes happened to me and I have been servicing all kinds of machines for many years I’m wondering if it’s possible to take a class action against Toyota,as there’s no information included with the new filter warning or otherwise about such a possible trap ,and indeed it’s likely to increase as vehicles getting older I am a qualified diesel fitter II love the wise acres commenting about lazy service personnel I expect those people never make a mistake
Yeah give them some curry, that is not on. Bloody ridiculous to think such a great lot of engineering gets let down by poor design of one component and customer relations did nothing. I just bought the new Stihl 500 I chainsaw the first EFI chainsaw ever produced and low and behold documented all over the internet by numerous owners that there's a air box design flaw that lets fine dust through the cam locking knob intoi filter and throttle body. After 2nd tank of gas I opened it and the dust is there !They should darn well rectify the issue but probably won't. And when you bring to dealers attention he says his go to line "we've sold hundreds of these and not one has come back" that doesn't mean that that dust isn't doing cylinder damage or halving the life of engine. But it get's you off his back !
2GR-FE Toyota engine has the same set up for the oil filter. I just can't understand how anyone could miss that inner sleeve and put it all back together without it! Obviously happens though!
@@alexmann3145 The VDJ79R & 200 series air filter is let down by sexy fingers mechanics (Everything they touch, they fvck) who crush or fold over the rubber seal or don't seat & nest the airbox lid correctly. You can buy a simple glue in stainless steel thin plate that enlarges the sealing surface of the airbox seal & I rubber grease the seal & run a Donaldson cyclonic snorkel head. I didn't have any dust bypass issues before & certainly no issues now with the standard airbox on my VDJ79R but you need to know what your doing & have an understanding of how it needs to be & how to get it like it needs to be.
D4D Toyota engines are amongst the most reliable and durable engines in the passenger vehicle world I can only imagine problems from mistakes and lack of servicing because my 23 year old corrola only broke down once because of a bad starter motor
Similar to the Nissan ZD30 CRD with it's Oil Filter Spigot in the Base of the Oil Filter Housing that get thrown out with the Used Oil Filter When Changed.
Genius Toyota engineering, just like their air boxes, dpfs (hilux) etc, and all that for a 4.5L V8 diesel that makes lees hp then most modern 2Ls. Not to speak of the cutting edge technology, when you have 15 yr model cycles! People have rocks in their heads, ... I got a V8 mate! But hey, good on you for capitalizing on these muppets, probably own your house outright and a couple more every year. Oil filter change, yes sir, that'll be 25k! Nobody has stupid money like a 79/200 owners. Might change profession!
European makes have this design. You get a low oil pressure code. Unsure and bad if Toyota doesn't give a warning of low oil pressure code. If you are unsure check the stout before installing yourself or after a mechanic does it. Can't go wrong if you check it yourself and save you a headache.
Hi you say throw away housing every 100,k’s I see you have what looks to be a aluminium housing does that suit the 200 series diesel ? If yes where can I get one and how much? Jeremy
So many people asking about the 70 series with the metal housing, would it have the same issue? but you don't respond. We support your channel & would appreciate the occasional answer to questions about the subject you are discussing. Would help alot of dedicated viewers.
When companies are in a massive rush to get products into market fast they will shape and slap together anything from wherever they can lay hands on. Case-IH did shit like this in my the late 1980's. They got parts from the old past models parts bin then just made a different shape bonnet etc then called it a new model.
Obviously not, hence the warning, don't let this happen or engine failure will occur. You must have been that annoying kid at school who would keep asking the same question because you were not paying attention. If it had a bypass engine failure would not occur.
Hi sir , I have Toyota 100series TD 4.2, my 100 series body weight is much more then the Japanese model Toyota 100 series , the engine does not handle the body weight after 2 year the engine get blow , so can 1vd.Ftv engine comes in my 100series TD UK model or any good idea. Please let me now what to do
Thought about buying anew cruiser turned by people s comment s on fault s mostly fuel consumption. But they also say they break down a lot come on Toyota. Ford ranger seems to be out in front they say .
Hello there, have you ever heard of a 1vd-ftv that turns on, but refuses to accelerate? My mechanic is trying everything and nothing works... The engine simply won't accelerate
Im not a fan of any of the landcruiser v8 engines, i like the straight six cylinder deisel engines. They are bullet proof,and are good for 800,000 ks plus before a rebuild is required if they are looked after.
yes that is where Landover lost their way with v6, I was a field serviceman with Cummins, I could take a turbo from a KW rebuild and refit in 5 hours, on my Disco, I cannot even see the turbo
Not bullet proof entirely but better than the V8 especially if you want to work on one eg to replace the starter or crap located V8 alternator. The FTE motor is best left STD as over boosting will result in failures...tho not uncommon in other engines also..like the TD42 Nissan.
easy solution: in the center of the cap, find the flange that the tube bayonnettes to, then drill a hole to fit a screw into (hex/torqs), LOCTITE it in; then that thing is NOT coming off unless you want it to!
Hey mate does it happen in the 70 series as well? The 200 series have a plastic cover instead of metal on the 70s don’t they? I wondered if that made a difference? Thanks
I've got a 200 series landcruiser and nice to know this, but if this is a common issue why has no-one made a modified oil filter cap so the metal sleeve doesn't come out
It's not a common issue so a new filter case design is not needed. Keeping idiots who don't know what they are doing away from your filter oil case is the best prevention.
@@dustyfarmer So Dusty am I who has been building and repairing engines transmissions fuel pumps etc for over 50 years to classify my self an Idiot or is Toyota design engineering the idiot Sir I rest my case
Great ‘To The Point’ video. I’m still amazed how Toyota has such a dedicated consumer following. With the many design flaws and significant engine faults, coupled with very basic cabin features, they seem to be an overpriced yet poor standard vehicle. As a previous manager of a workforce, I bought several Cruisers and was disappointed with the regular issues we had.
Failures like this in Toyotas are seen by owners as a badge of honour..just like paying too much in the first place and then spending tons of money modifying suspension etc etc. Imagine if this was a Jeeo or a LR! Amazing that Toyota still gets away with such design flaws.
If it's like my land rover, the pressure sensor is upstream of the filter, so there would be an increase in pressure. Glad I installed a gauge in place of the warning light. Good to know if it's both low or high.
Another Toyota design fault. I have had quite a few Toyota's and most have really bad design faults. Also you always keep hearing Toyotas are unbreakable, super reliable which most are, but when you get caught out it leaves a sour taste in your mouth. I went a completely different route and now have a Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 diesel and boy this has been far more reliable than any of the Toyota's I have ever owned. But boy did I get some crap from all my Toyota and Nissan friends, also the money I saved on the purchase price was fantastic.
As a wealthy Landcruiser owner says about the V8 diesels,,,, you trade them in before the warranty runs out. And send themto the Toymota dealer to get them serviced. This a bloke who restores classic cars as well as building race cars/ race engines. I would like to step from my 100 to a 200. But the engines scares me as I have seen them broken and also ofcourse they are noisier [but torqier] than the V8 petrol. Dont tell me more economical as yes they use a bit less fuel but the cost of said nunga nunga lotion is far more expensive.
The V8 in the 79 series has hardly any more torque or power than the 1HDFTE in the old 79 series. With the wider front track on the V8 79s what was Toyota thinking there? I service my 1HD myself, always have done, wouldn’t let a dealer near it. No problem with the oil filter either.
people just park them in long grass and burn them. Happens all the time. when dealers quote out of warranty repairs like a leaking main seal for 9k, its easier to burn them.
My mate was told about this issue by the local Toyota dealer ahead of an interstate trip..in case he needed a service elsewhere. For the extended warranty they told him not to drive in dusty conditions or through water because of the filter issue and low alternator and to watch out for excessive oil consumption. The 200s has cost him we over 100k Inc 10k on suspension mods. He was too frightened to take it to Fraser. Oh what a feeling..
Wow. I will stay with my 1hdfte. Its a beautiful thing to live with. As is my 1hz. 650000km. Not a major hiccup. It seems toyota joined everyone else in making short lived cars with the 200. Heaven forbid the 300. Reads like a grenade.
