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TOYOTA W58 VS R154 TRANSMISSION COMPARISON 

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IN THIS VIDEO WE COMPARE THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS FOR THE W58 AND R154 TRANSMISSION

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@moisto_o3036
@moisto_o3036 3 года назад
Now I know the r154 is angrier than the w58 thank you
@oveidasinclair982
@oveidasinclair982 4 года назад
They'll take a different size drive shaft, a W58 can easily handle 300-350 horse power, I would even take it up to 400, but anything after that you would be wise to go with the R154. Dad and I each have a 89 Supra, both with W58's, dad's car had a 1JZ vvti, I have a 7MGTE (use to be an automatic), dad sold his car, I'm keeping mine.
@edbo10
@edbo10 Год назад
this probably wasn't with the w58s found in the mk3 supras and earlier; 91 sc300s and beyond got w58s with bigger bearings and can actually handle the torque of the 1uz there are some mk3 supra w58s that had a steel sandwich plate, but this is no guarantee that they actually got the bigger (and thus stronger) bearings
@CarlG2003
@CarlG2003 5 лет назад
Amigo. Keep the good work I’m learning a lot of the 2jz engines.. I’m looking for a project car in the future and I’m thinking on getting a Lexus is300
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 5 лет назад
Great choise papa
@carloscrod_
@carloscrod_ 5 лет назад
I get the same 2jz gte on my Lexus. Which transmission would you recommend? I’m only thinking of getting 350-400 max on it. I noticed you said the W58 is smoother shifting but that the pressure plates breaks at 400 hp?
@cesarherrera6707
@cesarherrera6707 5 лет назад
@@TopSecretProTuning amigo aguna de esas tramisiones se le pueden istalar a un motor 3tc que es el 1.8 corrolla
@cesarherrera6707
@cesarherrera6707 5 лет назад
@@TopSecretProTuning agradeceria mucho su ayuda gracias
@Cptlink420
@Cptlink420 4 года назад
@@carloscrod_ I'm going for r154 on my tt aristo, great choise
@abayomimudada3721
@abayomimudada3721 6 лет назад
Great vid keep the good work flowing
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 6 лет назад
Abayomi Mudada thank u
@tomknud
@tomknud 3 года назад
No longer a secret! Also, the R154 is a total PIA to install!
@supern1nja959
@supern1nja959 5 лет назад
Hello! I was wondering if you could messuaure the lenght of the W58 clutch housing for me? Looking to buy a W55 gearbox from a Hilux and fitting it with a 2JZ in my IS200. I know the W55 is one of the wekest gearboxes that fit the 2JZ, but I will only run non-turbo so I think it will be fine. Need the messaurments to know what clutchhousing I will need:
@luisillogaming2399
@luisillogaming2399 3 года назад
Saludos desde Texas estoy haciendo un mk3 q es 7mge y lo quiero hacer 2jzgte tengo el motor ya visto pero lo que me tiene en pausa es la transmission si cambio la bancasa podré usar la w58 que tiene el carro ya
@Supremedude71
@Supremedude71 6 лет назад
Hey you are a wealth of knowledge on these mazda pickups, in another video about what your putting in your truck, the axle you said ISUZU rodeo, well got one of those . IT looks like the driveshaft will need shortened , or did you go with a one piece on an extra cab b2200? Haven't got mine quite setup on springs yet center bolt holes are too small need drilling out , minor details
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 6 лет назад
trevor sager yes, the driveshaft will need to be shorten out. We did a one piece.
@petescarport
@petescarport 5 лет назад
I have a stock sc300 with the w58. I plan to do a small turbo and drift the car. I planned to put a stage 3 or 4 clutch kit in. Is there any other ways to make it stronger or will I be ok running about 350hp. Thank you for all your knowledge
@Patak_1jz
@Patak_1jz 4 месяца назад
I can’t hear it good enough, what was the w58 lenght and the r154?
@doomkid02
@doomkid02 6 лет назад
Do the r154 and w58 use the same mount? I plan on doing a 2jz swap in my mk3 7mge supra which has the w58 transmission.
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 6 лет назад
as far i understand they do
@Alientraveler003
@Alientraveler003 6 лет назад
That w58 didn't have the steel plate in it . So it's weak . But if it had the steel plate in it. Than 700 to 800 to brake it . Good vid thanks
@pinkflamingodizzle
@pinkflamingodizzle 6 лет назад
I bought a '99 W series from a taco for my uz swap and it has the steel plate section in the middle. is that weird? I never saw one like this before.
@davidphillips7473
@davidphillips7473 5 лет назад
So one with a steel plate in the middle how much hp can it take ??
@ghostofsparta6579
@ghostofsparta6579 5 лет назад
If my memory serves me well w58 used in the early 80s for 4 cylinder engines like 22r and 3Y engines 120 hp then it was developed with a stronger internals to hold up in line 6 cylinder thats when the steel plate in the middle was add in the 90s.. bottom line the best you can go abusing it is the range of 400hp you will face problems if you exceed it.. R154 can take 600hp when the developed stronger foged internals R154 tripot can handle 750 hp safly.
@carguy1013
@carguy1013 2 года назад
Can anyone plz tell me how to identify a steel plate w58?
@fideljciii9421
@fideljciii9421 5 лет назад
Puedes hacer un vídeo en español
@carlyletom301
@carlyletom301 6 лет назад
So the W58 is what to use if you were building an engine above 400hp?
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 6 лет назад
400+ go r154
@ghostofsparta6579
@ghostofsparta6579 5 лет назад
Tripot R154 smooth and can handle 700hp stock internals.
@Brallan84
@Brallan84 3 года назад
Great video! Thanks!
@sebastianmozo5645
@sebastianmozo5645 5 лет назад
Hello greetings from Chile, we will soon receive an automatic toyota mark II shipment ..! then my question is !! what mechanical box is compatible to mount on 1JZ GTE engine? your advice would be of great help, I remain attentive to your comment. CLASSIC MONKEY GARAGE.
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 5 лет назад
R154 is compatible but u need a 2jz to r154 bellhousing. Everything can be found on ebay or driftmotion.
@sebastianmozo5645
@sebastianmozo5645 5 лет назад
very grateful friend, you have instagram to follow ?? sorry but R154 normally in which cars comes mounted?@@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 5 лет назад
@@sebastianmozo5645 instagram @tsecretgarage
@evo6swap
@evo6swap 2 года назад
Thank you
@cesarherrera6707
@cesarherrera6707 5 лет назад
Pregunta compañeros alguna de esas trasmissiones se pueden istalar en un motor 3tc gracias agradeceria algun comentario gracias
@-bkjq67
@-bkjq67 2 года назад
i can put the R154 or W58 in 1uz-fe engine in cressida ?
@aquasmoke8539
@aquasmoke8539 Год назад
Which gearbox do you suggest for 700hp? Keeping it simple would be appreciated, thinking of zf but don’t know
@retardedcheesewheel2921
@retardedcheesewheel2921 Год назад
R154. W58 won't take more than 400hp
@2jzgenat
@2jzgenat Год назад
​@@retardedcheesewheel2921very true i just blew my w58 with 475torque 450hp. It lasted 3 months on that power. No launches just roll pulls
@tacomas9602
@tacomas9602 3 года назад
The AR-5/W154 seems to be my choice in a vehicle but perfect either way.
@tannerpinney3608
@tannerpinney3608 5 лет назад
Do you know if the spline count on the input shaft is the same? Looking to run an r154 pull to push conversion with w58 clutch and flywheel. Just wanting to verify as i've seen some mixed info online. Cool video as there is not much info on this!
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 5 лет назад
Yes, the w58 clucth disk will work with a r154, meaning that the input shafts are the same. The output shaft is larger in the r154
@tannerpinney3608
@tannerpinney3608 5 лет назад
@@TopSecretProTuning Thanks so much for the super quick reply!
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 5 лет назад
Flywheels and pressure plates fo change from r154 and w58
@tannerpinney3608
@tannerpinney3608 5 лет назад
@@TopSecretProTuning Yes sir definitely understand, with this kit to run an internal push style release bearing xcessivemanufacturing.com/toyota-t-hrbm-r154.html . It should allow me to run internal release bearing, w58 clutch/flywheel on an r154 trans. Unfortunately there is not much info as i haven't seen many people using this bracket (even when emailing excessive they could not verify w58/r154 spline count). But this makes clutch and flywheel cheaper for me, lets me run internal release bearing, and i dont have to buy all the fork accessories that im missing for the r154, so its kinda a win win.
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 5 лет назад
@@tannerpinney3608 awesome. Good luck
@hashmitanaran7960
@hashmitanaran7960 3 года назад
Hi I have a W58 in my x70 2.4gle The engine is a 22R and runs fine I noticed that when I engage 1st gear it's jumping first gear what could be the problem pls advice me
@Radbmxoldschool8090
@Radbmxoldschool8090 3 года назад
Soy de España y aquí apenas se conocen esos swaps ...no hay ningún video...cual es la mejor trasmisión? Entra directamente en el coche? O hay que hacer alguna adaptación...mi idea es meterlo en un gs300 ...pero aquí tienen la trasmisión automática..gracias un saludo desde España
@osvaldogonzalez7604
@osvaldogonzalez7604 2 года назад
En primer lugar la R154 y en segundo lugar la W58. Para picadas es muy común en Puerto Rico usar la TH400 o Powerglide con el 2JZ(Conjunto radical capaz de manejar caballaje superior a 1000HP). Si quieres mantener la configuración manual y superar los 400 caballos R154. Espero que te ayude.
@corsavet
@corsavet Месяц назад
​@@osvaldogonzalez7604 hola amigo que opina de la w50 ?? Para uso de pista con 250hp .?
@johansanchez7512
@johansanchez7512 4 года назад
los bell housing are the same would the w58 bolt on a 2jz engine?
@saadsalem8443
@saadsalem8443 4 года назад
is the clutch plate is sam , like is it fit in bouth ?
@saadsalem8443
@saadsalem8443 4 года назад
can the bell housing swabsable ? many thanks buddy
@doomkid02
@doomkid02 5 лет назад
I have a w58 in my mk3 supra do you know if the other half of the drice shaft is still usable?
@elsupremociclon4511
@elsupremociclon4511 6 лет назад
VIVVO EN SANO DOMINGO me gustaria saber si es posible enviarme transmision manual toyota supra para ponerla a um toyota cressida.. por favor indicarme cotizacion primero.
@Manuqtix.Manuqtix
@Manuqtix.Manuqtix 3 года назад
Are the center hubs the same?
@Radbmxoldschool8090
@Radbmxoldschool8090 3 года назад
Otra cosa si hacéis el video en español..ayudarías mucho a la gente de aquí en España. ..que no hay videos hechos en español...todos los videos están en inglés.. .y no hay mucha información sobre esos proyectos...al igual que los motores 2jz..nadie hace videos en español..
@CallSignCobra
@CallSignCobra 6 лет назад
Hey brotha. Great video. Was wondering if there's a way to get in contact with you about some parts I need for a T50 transmission. Maybe an email so I don't blow your comments box up. Thank you.
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 6 лет назад
Luis Santiago ulises.te72@gmail.com
@christianmclaurin1510
@christianmclaurin1510 5 лет назад
What the best place to go about getting an R154? A link please?
@almorris171
@almorris171 4 года назад
Driftmotion.com can rebuild a R154 or sell a rebuilt one. It's pricey of course.
@socrittylove
@socrittylove 4 года назад
Thank you buddy. I actually have one now! I’m going to buy the rebuild kit from drift motion which cost about 750. I appreciate you responding to me.
@hariss1364
@hariss1364 4 года назад
What about the g52 gearbox? Is it strong enough behind a stock turbo 1jz ?
@mariafernandez7148
@mariafernandez7148 3 года назад
Saludos una w58 de motor 2.7 le sirve a un 2jz?
@Decimatorace
@Decimatorace 3 года назад
Hes flipping us off the whole time
@gsgcarreviews
@gsgcarreviews 3 года назад
LMAO
@ralphperez852
@ralphperez852 5 лет назад
I have a 1987 Toyota Supra 7mge and I want to put a2jzge what should I do for transmission
@ghostofsparta6579
@ghostofsparta6579 5 лет назад
Go for R154 you will be in the safe side even if you wana take things to the next level tuning the engine it can take the abuse.
@alazhar5049
@alazhar5049 6 лет назад
Can the W58 gearbox fit to a 1jz engine...i mean plug n play..?
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 6 лет назад
You would need a w58 to 2jz bell housing and flywheel
@timelessvickdamone
@timelessvickdamone 6 лет назад
1jz bell housing 👌🏼
@overbuiltautomotive1299
@overbuiltautomotive1299 6 лет назад
1j 2j same bell@@timelessvickdamone
@doomkid02
@doomkid02 5 лет назад
I hear the w58 is a much weaker transmission compared to the r154. So unless you're on a tight budget and don't plan to hall ass on it i wouldnt recommend it.
@hermanmarlon6323
@hermanmarlon6323 4 дня назад
Bro 1kz engine. Which manual transmission fit for that?
@edgarherrera6056
@edgarherrera6056 4 года назад
Muy buenos tus videos tengo un Corolla 82 3tc no puedo conseguir el adaptador para la trasmisión w58 ayuda por favor !!!!! Gracias
@jibaritomx
@jibaritomx 4 года назад
Motor 2rzfe nomas ocupas la bell housing del 2rz hay mucho tacoma todavia y habra mas partes por mucho tiempo...
@edgarherrera6056
@edgarherrera6056 4 года назад
Gracias compañero por contestar esque mi motor es 1.8 3tc y ocupo el adaptador
@jibaritomx
@jibaritomx 4 года назад
@@edgarherrera6056 www.3tcgarage.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=1137
@edgarherrera6056
@edgarherrera6056 4 года назад
@@jibaritomx mi hermano dónde lo puedo conseguir ya mire está página pero no me enseña como comprar el adaptador y gracias por estarme ayudando !!!!!😉
@jibaritomx
@jibaritomx 4 года назад
@@edgarherrera6056 creo que tienes que suscribirte a los forums y le mandas mensaje privaro a *island chain racing* es quien los fabrica..
@noelhernandez7515
@noelhernandez7515 5 лет назад
Buen video!! Tengo un Toyota cressida 85 y tengo pensado montarle un 1jz cual sería el costo estimado de motor y transmision etc?
@tonyfajardo7204
@tonyfajardo7204 3 года назад
Motor y trans swap sale como unos $6000
@chronicle_4k328
@chronicle_4k328 5 лет назад
Buen video 🔥
@MrTeletubyman123
@MrTeletubyman123 6 лет назад
AL FIN CONO i was looking for a is300 manual swap/upgrade
@vihanganethsara3021
@vihanganethsara3021 4 года назад
Bro,what is the better transmission with 1jz
@mierasai971
@mierasai971 3 года назад
the r154
@edgarherrera6056
@edgarherrera6056 4 года назад
Antes que nada un gran saludo pera ustedes amigos ocupo ayuda tengo un Corolla 1.8 el motor le pondré trasmisión w58 de Tacoma pero no encuentro el clutch
@abdullaalhammadi9682
@abdullaalhammadi9682 6 лет назад
from were you got the long shaft drive ??
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 6 лет назад
Abdulla Alhammadi custom made from advance driveline in orlando
@Bawkr
@Bawkr 3 года назад
Weird my r154 looked more like the w58, 1jz bellhousing. His r154 looks old like most w series. so confusing
@ValladolidArde
@ValladolidArde 4 года назад
are the bell housings interchangable hermano?
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 4 года назад
They are not😪
@ValladolidArde
@ValladolidArde 4 года назад
@@TopSecretProTuning muchas gracias
@Wavywa1
@Wavywa1 6 лет назад
How much did you pick up the r154 for? @TopSecretGarage
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 6 лет назад
1500
@Wavywa1
@Wavywa1 6 лет назад
Was it da Mk3 Turbo tran .....
@Wavywa1
@Wavywa1 6 лет назад
@TopSecretGarage
@davidcalix3199
@davidcalix3199 2 года назад
R154 trabaja con 2jz...?
@dalvincasiano5456
@dalvincasiano5456 5 лет назад
La w58 sirve para 2jz de aristo??
@abidulhasib5648
@abidulhasib5648 5 лет назад
Can i use a r154 in a 1g-gte Pls reply Thanks😀
@justaguy6415
@justaguy6415 4 года назад
Isint that the stock transmission for the car?
@akaitv6606
@akaitv6606 2 года назад
I know of r154 self destructing on 3rd gear at 600hp
@yasserloveu5772
@yasserloveu5772 5 лет назад
So r 154 is better than w58
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 5 лет назад
Yes. Alot better
@wanjzs7718
@wanjzs7718 4 года назад
Both can fit in 1jz vvti?
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 4 года назад
With JZ bell housings yes
@twrcrew8852
@twrcrew8852 3 года назад
para que falte culo que sobre. thats the only spanish i learned when I spend 1 year with puerto ricans in the desert! hehe
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂
@danielluperdi1647
@danielluperdi1647 5 лет назад
La w58 encaja en los motores jz sin adaptar nada?
@missaeljdmramos1322
@missaeljdmramos1322 5 лет назад
El supra 92 traira w58??
@luisalfredomena6485
@luisalfredomena6485 6 лет назад
Ustedes son hispanos, me pareció oírlos hablando español, de donde son..???
@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning 6 лет назад
Vivimos en florida pero somos de puerto rico
@luisalfredomena6485
@luisalfredomena6485 6 лет назад
Top Secret Garage Boricuas pues. Que bien. Yo soy de República Dominicana. Aprovecho a preguntarles. Que tanto cuesta un envolvente de una W58 para 2JZ
@ericvaria7807
@ericvaria7807 5 лет назад
@@luisalfredomena6485 que no escuchaste el broken english!
@Eldela5demayo.Culiacan
@Eldela5demayo.Culiacan 4 года назад
has uno en español
@victorhernandez4244
@victorhernandez4244 5 лет назад
no entendi cual es mas fuerte w58 o la r154
@ianllomuel2577
@ianllomuel2577 4 года назад
r154 es mejor que la w58
@darreljohannson18
@darreljohannson18 5 лет назад
Happy Easter
@tomknud
@tomknud 3 года назад
W58 TO pushes while the R154 pulls.
@oscarviera6898
@oscarviera6898 2 года назад
Jajaja el malcriau, saludos
@andrewvalencia6489
@andrewvalencia6489 Год назад
Guess my r154 is a w58
@1FAT120y
@1FAT120y 3 года назад
Ahhhh stop moving the camera around, making me sea-sick
@offshore_salty_gear3377
@offshore_salty_gear3377 5 лет назад
Este loco es de Hialeah fl lol
@MrTruthAddict
@MrTruthAddict Год назад
QUE? TUYO HUEY! lol
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