It could be the hair lol - it’s more a criticism toward RS - i won’t do Cota with them anymore. just too many riders in the wrong groups, not enough control riders to herd them into equal speed groups. intermediate can be like thunderdome lol. try 316 days they have 4:1 coaching.
@@paradoxworkshop4659 step 2: be able to take off work when the track day is inevitably on the 3rd Tuesday after each blood moon, but only when Jupiter is in retrograde
@@spitescorner I’m expecting my first child at the end of March, so I won’t see you until June. HIGHLY recommend taking the trek up to Dallas to G2 with RideSmart. Probably the 2nd best track in TX after COTA. I’m hoping to be there in October 😀 I’m starting my season June-ish depending on how my boy and wife are doing 🥰
@@jamesschaffer5504There's kind of a big reason for that. I've done it, but I don't do it anymore. Trackdays are already physically demanding enough without adding the sun kicking me in the junk all afternoon. But, those of you who are younger and in better shape than me (most of you), I give you a massive thumbs up and hope you keep enjoying it. A track day in summer is still better than a day at a desk job.
Riding on track teaches you so much, it helps you to not panic in many situations on the road and track riding is actually pretty safe 👍🏻 the US doesn't have as many tracks as Europe, some in the UK were developed from ww2 airfields . There's 5 within 100 miles of me !
A hundred miles isn't far in the US. I live within 250 miles of Kansas Motor speedway, less than a 100 miles from Hallett Motor Speedway and within 500 miles of the track Spite was riding. 500 would be about the mileage limit I'd be willing to travel in the US. Unfortunately most US left over WWII runways were converted into drag racing stripes
novice tip: if you are paying for your own track day, doing your first, and probably 2nd day would be better at a smaller, cheaper track. Pay less dollar just to get your mental, body, and gear wrapped around the basics, then take a try at COTA. Its a huge track, with a lot of complexities, and for novice riders its bit like riding at highway speeds. A smaller track will teach you better fundamentals. Also, at RS, getting bumped up a class on your first day is not realistic for average first times. It can be difficult to get a coach or control rider to ride with you long enough to get evaluated. Squeeky wheels get ths grease, or have 100k subscribers on youtube if you want preferential treatment ;-) Edit: COTA is literally the most expensive track day in the US.
I can tell you at RS the average time in Novice is 3-4 days if you have never been to a track day. In Intermediate RS bases everything of the individual rider. And everyone learns at a different pace. Great organization, safe, and a lot of help if you’re interested in being a better rider.
Be careful. Track riding may ruin your street riding experience forever. It's best to think of those as mutually exclusive; track is nothing like street. Street Rossis are often way out of their depth on track and can perform worse than other track beginners.
Great video! It's awesome to get track content from a non track rat as I can relate to your experiences. You ask and answer questions that the semi pros don't because basic things might not occur to them and they are stuck on high end techniques that I'm not ready for. I need content from someone closer to my skill and experience level for track riding. PS Congratulations on intermediate! I'm still very much a noob.
I gotta get back with them, i paid for a day i didnt use, it was covered, and they said i could re do it.... a year ago.. dunno, work gets crazy, may have some days coming up again soon, and i dont know if they are still using the track near me, or if i gotta ride all the way up there. Ither way im probly paying for another day at this point. Thanks for reminding me, and i love the video!
Here in Malaysia, Only the CFMOTO 800NK Advance edition is available. It retails for 38,888 body price. It's counterpart, the KTM DUKE 790 goes for 62,800 which is crazy.
I'm so excited to report that I'll be starting my riding season with a cornering school at the end of April and will be attending my first track day at the same track at the end of June. Very excited to finally get my 2005 R6 on a track where it'll feel at home. Agree that getting out on track is truly elite for rider training and understanding your motorcycle's limits, as well as your own! Great coaching also helps iron out any bad habits and learn new techniques to better your riding ability.
New subscriber and yes, more track reviews would be awesome! My first track day was back on August of '21 and I am an admitted track day addict. 😁The skills learned on a track with a good coach are priceless and transfer directly to the street. I can't begin to imagine what it would be like to ride at COTA, I am so jealous. Looking forward to more content like this. Thanks for posting and keep yourself safe! 😃👍❤🏍🏁 Randy
I used to work with California Superbike School at a race circuit in the uk and after speaking with many riders, it really helped improve their riding. I did several track days then (2002-3) and have recently started back motorcycling. Booking one or two this year. Countersteering was a massive learn for me.
Can I just say, you have the most expensive "hobbies". Motorcycles and Guitars lol. As a musician myself, I know it's true. Are you writing your rock/metal tracks? If so, they sound awesome! Cheers!
$$$ is always the deciding factor, you have to remember not everyone is so privileged. $550 is crazy expensive, if you don't think so then you're in that class. You gotta remember most people are out there squidding on clapped out $3k GSXRs and under 30 y/o.
I basically totally quit riding on the street after I finally did a track day. Then once that became impossible I realized I just flat out was better riding a bicycle. Sometimes I miss motorcycles, but I definitely don't miss the insurance, gas, paperwork, speeding tickets, theft, etc. Still watch tons of motorcycle youtube and motogp though.
Quick (maybe dumb) question, but when you do those track days, do you have to get the fuel with you ? My 1125R has a 21l tabk but at "full speed" I dont think it'd last a full day.
I did two day trackday, and got hooked. Upgrading from cb500f to cb650r because of the trackday. Problem with Chinese bikes or cars is that you do not know how its gonna look like after 6 or 7 years or 30, 40k km on odo. Never ridden one tho.
I hadn’t considered going to a track day before this video. Now I’m looking at race suits on revzilla! (Think I’ll rent the first time, though.) thanks for making it look doable and fun!
I hate that track Day organizations don't offer bike rentals. I'd have to buy everything. I've never done a track day, and I want to, but what if I hate it? It's too big of an investment without knowing if I'll enjoy it enough to keep doing it.
The problem here in my area, is lack of available track time. There are a handful of tracks, but only 1 or two that allow motorcycles. Even those only allow motorcycles during specific events that only happen a couple times a year
Might get into track training myself at some point. Or just book free sessions when available to get practice in. Have ridden on track before with my car and I think it would be fun on motorcycles as well.
When i looked at the NKs at the dealerz they had the same pegs as my Ibex 800t... the rubber inserts were removeable, you had to unscrew them from under the peg.. might have been a later update though.
Cota is big and wide, really americano👌 But the tarmac is awefull😮 motogp is saying it for very long time, they had to flatten some bumps, because it was nearly dangerous with 340kmh😅
Did I hear that right? The CFmoto is only $800 less than it's KTM counterpart? So for that $800 difference you get the ( apparently necessary) steering stabilizer, proper tires and KTM suspension? Hmm 🤔
he already did a review comaparing both bikes. He prefered the cfmoto. The ktm has way shittier dashboard, smaller and worse brakes, and it´s much less confortable. The top spec 800nk with steering damper, quickshifter, better tyres and a big screen with apple carplay and android auto still 300dls less than the duke 790. Even the base model has a much beter dashboard than the 790.
@@Garcheezy "dashboard, dashboard, dashboard"....t's a motorcycle. I don't play video games, so I don't give a damn about what computer screen is on the handlebars. Speedometer, odometer, fuel gauge. I give no fucks about anything else. When did the most important part of a bike become how much the dashboard acts like an iPhone? Why the fuck are people so obsessed with phones that they need them in places where they aren't necessary. I'll take suspension and tires over DaShBoArD every time.
@@shinyribs2178 the suspension on the duke isnt adjustable and it's not much better than 800nk, go check the comparison of both bikes in this channel. Both are not track motorcicles , and if you watched the review, he concluded that as a road bike the 800nk is much better. Regarding the tyres: as a road bike they're just fine, as a trackbike they're shit. If you go to the track frequently, you should have a good set of track tyres.
Nice! I'm waiting on my one piece leather suit to come in and hopefully start doing trackdays with Ridesmart myself this year and learn to become a safer/better rider! Hoping to do a COTA trackday and knock that off my bucket list as well.
@@ganuvienRideSmart has pretty big suits to borrow/rent. When I went to COTA last Thanksgiving, I had _outgrown_ my 12-year-old suit so I had to borrow one. They had suits up to size 64/54 available.
the MAXXIS sportmaxx MA-ST2s... they are "sport" TOURING tires . S21s or any big brand last gen true sport or 1/2 sport/race tires will make a huge upgrade!
Good to know that the best upgrades you can make are in no particular order: your skills, tires, and suspension. Great video with some solid takeaways.
@MatiasEspinosa1 I disagree with you. I'd say suspension, skills then tires. Suspension is so easy to change, and cheap to have set up. In addition, so many people have never had it done. Plus, most sportier bikes nowadays come with decent rubber from the factory, obviously, Chinese CF Moto excluded, that most cannot out ride the factory rubber. Hell, even the Harley sportster is coming with a very good Michelin tire instead of the DunRocks of old...
@@dasko3 of you have to replace suspension pieces, of course, so many bikes though in the past 20 years have come with suspension adjustable for compression, rebound, and damping, especially bikes that were built to ride on a track like Aprilia RSV, Gixxer, CBR, etc. And, those bikes come with good tires as a rule. As I already said, CS Moto, probably not so much so.
I'd like to do track days, but my money tends to be spent on buying, fixing and accessorizing motorcycles ATM. And my time is mostly taken up by riding with bunch of friends who stupidly were influenced by my example & got themselves a motorcycle recently. Maybe a group ride in a couple of years when they're more up to speed.
Love it. There's no better test of reliability than a racetrack and (potential) reliability issues are the most common gripe people have with chinese products. Good on cfmoto for proving that they trust their product by letting you do this.
i think that the maxxis tyres included with the bike are not really that bad. It´s a more sport touring kinda tyre. it´s not really made for the track. The good thing with all the "defects" that you said about the bike is that they´re not inherent to the bike, you just buy a better tyres, metal footpegs and a harder spring for the rear suspension and you´re good to go...
I actually started to sign up for that same class but ended up having to move across the country. I did eventually meet you though at cota, but it was at the motogp event instead. Ill be back at cota for motogp in april maybe ill see you there again.
I'm doing both a couple of weeks after my birthday in Aug-Sep this year. The last weekend in Aug is a 3-day at Barber with STT and the first weekend in Sep is COTA with RideSmart. I'm breaking my own rule about not doing trackdays when it's stupid hot, two weekends in a row, but it's not very often that I can ride two absolutely spectacular tracks within a week. I might only do one day at each, but I technically have the option of all 5 days.
I have the KTM 790. Wish I could adjust the suspension more as I'm just a hair heavier than you, but maybe an upgrade one year. Glad the cfmoto held up cuz I want to try a track day this summer
Hi Spite, at your weight you will reach the limitations of just about most bikes rear suspension as they are set for someone around 70 kilograms. Simply buy a slightly used aftermarket market one that you can buy at most track events as the pro level riders will replace these frequently. It’s also a shame Americans don’t get the higher spec model as along with the steering stability control it also has a quickshifter and an iPad for a screen (which is a disadvantage for the track), yet a bonus for what the bike is designed for. Great work!
RE: Race Suits. Sure, lots of places have them for rent......if you're under 6 feet tall. At 6'4", 230 pounds, I can't find anywhere that's got a suit that'll actually fit me. :(
Contact RideSmart, they have a ton of suits. The 6’4” tend to be the bigger problem… and if they can’t help they might be able to get you set up with someone that can help. RS tends to be pretty full service.
At 6'1" 250 I fit in an Alpinestars 48/58. At 285 I fit in a 52/62. It depends on your body type more than height/weight. And yes, RideSmart has suits up to 54/64.
Dude, What is the difference between the cfmoto 800nk & ktm 790? Cost, suspension ect?? Thanks. Ps. Thanks to you & the Bald 'f'. I returned to riding after 20 year absence. Tiger800😂❤❤ almost bought an 2010 sv650 but they wanted more that orginal cost in 2020 7k$
Wrong wrestler for the rock hard reference. Probably the obvious one you’d think of because of the name recognition. Rock Hard Juice Robinson is the more accurate reference
Looks fun but I was meant for the streets, and trails. Still think people aren't paying attention to the writing on the wall and potential gamble when it comes to buying bikes made in certain countries regardless of what the make is.
@@spitescorner Yeah I've got a Thailand made bike, 500X. Look into the Audis and Bentleys seized by US Customs, and Shandong ODES Industry Co being on the EU sanctions list as of yesterday, and there will only be more rounds with further depth into the common supply chains. I don't know if CF Moto in Mexico is production or assembly only, they might be in better shape than KTM ironically. I'm sure I sound tinfoil hat to you but the average joe getting parts for his bike isn't even going to be a concern in the bigger picture if things progress on the current trajectory.
@@spitescornerWhen you want to feel _really_ slow you can watch the video the instructors got of you out on track. If they only got you in the morning sessions it's even worse. If it's your first time at COTA and you don't really know which way the track goes yet because you missed half of the first session... Yeah, I looked even slower than I felt out there. But it was fun.
@@spitescorner I live real close and am going to do at least one day of the weekend when RideSmart goes there this year. If you annouce your MSRH day, I'll be sure to book the same one and come say hi.
@spitescorner yeah as long as your not trying to sell me a China bike I'll watch it I usually like your vids and comment positive things but ig you only want the negativity
@@Ben24636 I appreciate the support but need to clarify one thing. I don't try to sell bikes. That's what dealerships are for. I just cover them and provide information for consumers to make their own choices. I cover everything on two wheels, regardless of engine, category or national origin. Everyone thinks I get paid by companies, but that's emphatically not the case, and it's illegal for me to say otherwise. If I do, I include the sponsor flag and point out the relationship so people can be informed.
1. It is illegal to do what your suggesting and not disclose it 2. I cover all things on two wheels regardless of make, model, or national origin. 3. Maybe the bike is just good and I like it?
