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Which 2022 Ducati sportsbike is best for novice trackday riders? Supersport vs Panigale V2 vs V4 

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Join baldy at Donington Park where he's trying to decide which 2022 Ducati sportbike is best on track - for a novice. He's ridden them all on the road, now he's writing in the third person to bring you some consumer advice for anyone wanting to get into track riding… on a brand new expensive Ducati. It's not as bad an idea as you'd think…
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@rotoehu9266
@rotoehu9266 Год назад
Amazing how far the electronics have come, even 10 years ago the proposition of ‘which Ducati is best on track for a novice’ was analogous to ‘which chainsaw is best to brush my teeth’ 😁
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
As an ex Ducati 1198 owner I 100% agree! I would've been *so much slower* on the 1198 than even the SFV2.
@jbrosupra
@jbrosupra Год назад
​@timrodierides most people dont wanna hear it but most people would be faster on a slower bike.
@seneca175
@seneca175 10 месяцев назад
Lol, good comparison 😂. Ride safe 😉
@danieloconnell4225
@danieloconnell4225 Год назад
I've got a V2 and a 950S; I'm a bit farther along than a new rider on track, but nowhere near what I'd call a veteran. I find the SS actually has better suspension for track work when set-up properly than the V2 (thank Ohlins for that), but I'd agree the soft seat makes moving around on it a bit sloppy. Did you or someone else set up the SS Ohlins for track work, or were they on 'stock' settings? Stock settings are definitely set for street work only. The V2 is quicker and falls into corners quicker, but I find it lacks composure compared to the SS, and on a shorter track with more corners, I think a good 950S rider will beat a decent V2 rider due to the better torque curve and suspension. I suppose it all depends on two things: what kind of track are you on, and how good the rider is. I've had guys on bikes with less than 100hp blow my proverbial tyres off, and blow the tyres off guys with much more powerful motorcycles than mine. Ducati isn't cheap; owning more than one means you either made a mistake or are well-off; if you can only own one and commute or ride cities a lot, I say the 950S is the best choice as it certainly makes a decent track ride and is great around regular roads. If you're looking just for a track bike, I think the V2 is close enough to a V4 (which I test rode several times) that the massive price difference isn't worth climbing. Ego-aside, I like my 950S with its full Akrapovic system best - plenty fast by all but superbike standards, and in my view, looks better than any other Ducati that doesn't have V4 in the name. Cheers.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
I imagine all the bikes were set for stock - I was sharing them with some (much lighter and all female!) riders. Thanks for watching and the comment though
@danieloconnell4225
@danieloconnell4225 Год назад
@@timrodierides fairo! The 950S is set up pretty soft out of the factory - massive difference if you dial in those Ohlins as they should be for track work. Glad you had a good day!
@rodneyrayner4178
@rodneyrayner4178 Год назад
@@danieloconnell4225 Hi Daniel, can you tell me your track settings please, and your weight ? Many thanks.
@Vforfreedom
@Vforfreedom Год назад
Im not well off and I own 3. A S2R , 749/924 racebike and a 996S. You just have to know how to manage money and not waste it on the non import things in life. The only reason I dont own a newer Duc is I dont like them too much electronic and dumb wings. I may buy a R1M instead
@gavin4423
@gavin4423 Год назад
Great video with a surprising conclusion, that adds weight to the theory that you don’t have to thrash a motorbike to it’s limit to have a fulfilling time on it. Loved the voiceover too.
@kirkdunn1379
@kirkdunn1379 11 месяцев назад
I have heard a few others say same about V4s.....just very easy bike to ride and surprise its actually meant fir doing this sort if thing, 😂 I am here cuz one passed me on my way to LA filtering on the freeway, I was taking a back by how beautiful the bike looked and sounded.... Truly a piece of machinery
@Rick1984FL
@Rick1984FL Год назад
Fitting because wife and I are heading to Ducati tomorrow to inquire about a deposit on a 2023 v2…in that gorgeous rosso white I can’t get out of my mind!
@Druezy
@Druezy Год назад
Good luck and enjoy! The white with the red looks so gorgeous, I can't find one in a showroom just so I can look at one haha!
@Rick1984FL
@Rick1984FL Год назад
@@Druezy they have all been bought up in my local market too; the closest I’ve been able to find to show my wife is the supersport s in white. With any luck in 3-5 months i shall have one in my garage.
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Год назад
Love that Tim 👍👍
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Cheers mate! Did you spot your slow-mo guest appearance?
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides Год назад
@@timrodierides haha yes 😆 slow mo, slow moob more like 😆
@lordgibbness
@lordgibbness Год назад
Great video mate
@greenwoodoak3744
@greenwoodoak3744 Год назад
Nice work Tim, we stopped work on said day, really excellent comparison for track use. I own a v2 its a road bike P E.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
I love the V2 on the road! Yeah, it wasn't totally pleasant temperature wise... but I couldn't turn down the offer to ride them all!
@FogmasterLeghorn
@FogmasterLeghorn Год назад
thank you for your comments from a tall rider perspective. Is the 950s seat too soft or too wide for the track? I've read where the 950 seat is very road comfortable, but moving around on track is a different effort. I think ducati has some sort of trend started where they want puny short people ( under 6'1") to be able to comfortably hold the bike up at stops so they are lowering the ride position. HaHa. the v2 multistrada pics look like they have you sitting on a banana. Very nice hearing the sounds from those gr8 bikes thanks Tim!
@edsonroadmoto
@edsonroadmoto Год назад
Glad Chad gave you a great experience at the track 😊
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Something about the name, isn't there?!
@paulbryan1094
@paulbryan1094 Год назад
I thought that was Chopsy on the Suzuki. Great video, like the track day stuff
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
It was! There's a few RU-vidrs/instagrammers/influencers in the footage...
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 Год назад
You can be a great rider on the streets and really, really slow on a racetrack. Never done a “trackday” as I spent 10 years racing in multiple classes including the Australian Superbike Series. Lots of room on track? Simply means you are going way too slow as Phillip Island was my home track. It’s one of the biggest on tour however feels like it’s only a metre wide when you are at 100%. Great start, we all need that first taste as I truly believe this makes you a better and safer rider. Just subscribed. 👍😎🇦🇺
@Imotopilot
@Imotopilot Год назад
They should have had a Multistrada V2 or the V4 (Pikes Peak with its 17” front wheel) as well. Super capable bikes on the track too.
@Druezy
@Druezy Год назад
Awesome Tim, that was a hell of a day! The V4S is an absolute dream, I hope one day I can justify that level of nonsense, simply stunning!
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Thanks! I can see the marketing now - Ducati Panigale V4S: voted beginner bike of the year by Tim Rodie.
@Druezy
@Druezy Год назад
@@timrodierides At least a beginner on a V4S could never blame the bike for their poor lap times 😂
@ericlemonnier2187
@ericlemonnier2187 3 месяца назад
J'aime beaucoup le bruit du streefighter dans les tours.
@albertlira7443
@albertlira7443 Год назад
What a cool day! I love a Ducati. You film beautiful and interesting bikes but Ducati are just sinful and gorgeous.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Thanks as ever Mr Lira!
@albertlira7443
@albertlira7443 Год назад
@@timrodierides thanks for terrific content!
@sgill4833
@sgill4833 11 месяцев назад
Exact question I was asking myself
@Szlejer
@Szlejer Год назад
I track ride quite frequently and the simple answer is that NONE of these Ducatis are good sportsbikes for novice track riders... KTM RC390, Yamaha R3 (maybe R7), Ninja 400. These are the choices of many excellent, very experienced track riders, so I have the sneaking suspicion that they should be more than enough for a track novice.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
True, but what if you can afford a Panigale V4? 😂
@trwilliams22
@trwilliams22 Год назад
@@timrodierides I was in novice group a few years ago and looked over next to me staged up on pit lane was an HP4 race on slicks. 🤦🏻
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
@@trwilliams22 Hahaha, it used to intimidate me, but I'm content just riding my own ride these days...
@trwilliams22
@trwilliams22 Год назад
@@timrodierides no intimidation for me- just figured he would bin it when he couldn’t keep enough heat in the tires. I was happily tootling around on my 900SS which cost me 1/20 of his bike.
@TeensierPython
@TeensierPython Год назад
If you can afford a v4. Buy one a year or two old and a used small bike as well. Then you can thrash the “learner bike” until you get good enough to make the v4 work well.
@JoeyMrTurbo
@JoeyMrTurbo Год назад
I’ve yet to take my SuperSport to the track-I was hoping for you to love it lol.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
There's a comment on here from a supersport owner who loves it - just needs some suspension work needed!
@hypermotardking
@hypermotardking Год назад
Donington my favourite track.. love ripping my 2022 Hyper SP in fast group mixing it with the superbikes 🤘🏼🤘🏼
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
I'm envious! I never got around to taking my Hyper 950SP on track!
@hypermotardking
@hypermotardking Год назад
@@timrodierides Yeah I watched your Hyper vids.. you should have kept it
@jamesgrant-lewis209
@jamesgrant-lewis209 Год назад
Is the hyper a good daily like the SS950? I’m cross shopping between both
@hypermotardking
@hypermotardking Год назад
@@jamesgrant-lewis209 You’ll have way much fun on a hyper as a daily.. plenty of reviews on ny channel
@DCGULL01
@DCGULL01 6 месяцев назад
So, for say $26K, i can llolligag, eat bon bons and re-schedule my pedicure for say, 4pm. All w/out breaking a sweat. The SuperSport 950 is a Monster w/ a fairing, is suitable for the street as delivered but lacks the needed stiffness that tracks demand. During the launch, Ducati went to great lengths to ensure the journalists focused on the roadgoing manners. However, it's softer, squishier & lacks ground clearance at the track. I'm pretty sure you'd have to be unreasonable to 'put a knee down' on the street... At the of the day, I genuinely enjoyed your 'peek' inside of an awesome track day & as a fellow track noob, I appreciate how much effort is required to keep sessions separated in your head to remember highs & lows for each bike! Good on ya, Tim!
@photographerjonathan
@photographerjonathan Год назад
I hope someday to try doing a track day on my 939, I'm curious what camera was used that made all of the bikes look orange.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Nothing to do with the camera, just my sh*t colour grading 🤣Fuji X-T4 mostly.
@merwyncruz4543
@merwyncruz4543 Год назад
Does the Panigale V2 run hotter than the Supersport? Planning to get one that's mostly for street use and the occasional track days.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
My experience is the V4 runs a lot hotter than the V2!
@colin55594
@colin55594 Год назад
Got the 950 as my first bike. Wish it had a bit more power. Other then that love itm
@kirkdunn1379
@kirkdunn1379 11 месяцев назад
Yeah I really was thinking about getting one, if it had CC and another 20 ponies I think I would.....fir that amt of $$$, tough to justify.....using only 1 bike
@troppo4872
@troppo4872 Год назад
Thanks.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Thank *you* for watching
@MrAdambinnie
@MrAdambinnie Год назад
Looked pretty sendy to me mate 🤘
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Cheers mate! Up to inters next time I think. And when I say next time, whenever a manufacturer offers me a no-risk ride on their nice bikes...
@davecree867
@davecree867 Год назад
Not really getting the ‘I’m a novice...’ thing - knee down, laying darkies down all over the place doesn’t sound like novice riding. Great vid though, would have liked to seen you out on the Hypermotard, and maybe even a Multistrada too! Keep up the good work.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Well I think I'd been on track 3 times before this video, but spread over 10 years! So I felt like a novice. Thanks for the kind comment - I'd love to take a hypermotard on a short track somewhere, I miss my old 950SP.
@BossGT500
@BossGT500 Год назад
Great video Tim, you couldn't have been that slow, you seem to pass a few people.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Thanks Boss! I'll move up to inters. I had some good coaching on this day - there's another video coming on that!
@therealquaid1694
@therealquaid1694 Год назад
Fast for a novice. Great video.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Thanks! I've got another video coming on trying to get faster!
@Atlan_tis
@Atlan_tis Год назад
lol , test is not done yet, try V2 Bayliss with ohlins suspention, nice review
@jagadeeshkumar516
@jagadeeshkumar516 Год назад
I agree
@jameshardy6277
@jameshardy6277 Год назад
Is this a trackday where you can test all those Ducati's throughout the day? Who's the organiser please?
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
It was Pirelli day, the Ducatis were laid on by Ducati UK for a couple of journalists to test sadly…
@benasgud
@benasgud Год назад
Which one is hotter to ride, panigale v2 or v4?
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
The Pani V4. I was riding it closer to midday though, but it was definitely kicking out more heat - I couldn't really feel the V2's heat on the move
@Vforfreedom
@Vforfreedom Год назад
Sausage!!?? LOL!! For lunch on a trackday hahaha. Try a banana and a good salad with chicken or tuna and Gatorade and water.
@FootageFactory
@FootageFactory Год назад
Pani V4S is the best Novice trackbike. I think
@joemeyer2726
@joemeyer2726 Год назад
Ninja 400 track prep
@TeensierPython
@TeensierPython Год назад
I’m going to guess it’s the panigale v2
@thedragonofechigo7878
@thedragonofechigo7878 Год назад
Never thought I'd see the day when the V4S, A 215hp machine is the better bike for Novices of all people.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
I know it sounds like I'm taking the piss, but it's genuinely the friendliest of the bikes!
@thedragonofechigo7878
@thedragonofechigo7878 Год назад
@Tim Rodie Rides Motorbikes I mean, I'm not doubting you but this just shows that Ducati were telling the truth when they said they are trying to make it easier to ride. Does that mean someone with minimal experience could get one, or is that too far fetched?
@raptorelement1
@raptorelement1 Год назад
Hyundai is the official safety car of wsbk
@nairbyad7188
@nairbyad7188 6 месяцев назад
seriously slow traffic on track, eh? !
@MarkRShed
@MarkRShed 10 месяцев назад
Take them out of the road I think you'll put the SuperSport in the lead.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides 10 месяцев назад
Agree!
@Vforfreedom
@Vforfreedom Год назад
All you novice guys need to be on a older 748 or 916.
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Absolutely, with no electronics and no safety net. Perfect. After all, you’re not a real biker until you’ve broken a few bones on track 🫠
@leeandrew2682
@leeandrew2682 Год назад
none of them are for novices, but i imagine the supersport is the easiest to ride
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
I'd actually say the V4 is easiest to ride!
@leeandrew2682
@leeandrew2682 Год назад
@@timrodierides i have only been on 848 so i have no idea what i am talking about haha
@theyorkshireman7145
@theyorkshireman7145 Год назад
Dear Sir, I have been doing some analysis of various RU-vid channels re motorcycles and so on and I have a few interesting conclusions. I do believe you have my email address from correspondence a long time ago and would be more than grateful to share with you. I know I can be a bit of a nob at times but I do have your best interests at heart (honestly) and would love to see you do well enough on RU-vid to consider it as a potential income in the not too distant future. I can see your potential you are a great bloke with a great personality and RU-vid (and associated social media thingies) could be your outlet to give what you can give and make it work for you as well. 👍🏻😁
@Vforfreedom
@Vforfreedom Год назад
What’s 2022 Ducati is best for novice trophy riders?? NONE!!!!
@timrodierides
@timrodierides Год назад
Depends what trophy it is
@Vforfreedom
@Vforfreedom Год назад
Anyone over 6’1” is too big to ride a sportbike properly!!
@demisx
@demisx Год назад
BS
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