Track Race #37 | 350GT vs IS-F vs C63 AMG vs M3 

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LOL Not if it had gone off the track with all that over-steer!!!!

@@michaelmeliambro5117 bmw oversteers and yet still easy to control. That's called Drift. And track cars isn't just about the horsepower, it's all about weight distribution and balance. M3 got it all

All those cars can drift the m3 is not special

@@Toyota4Life LOL Not that it ever was...

@@Toyota4Life yeah and bring all those m3 competitors to track, let's see who'll dominate (track run not drift)

Nah, infiniti is also extra reliable

VQ> Lexus

Sans emmerdes ,,,,,,,,,oui

Without a doubt !! LEXUS ALL THE WAY 👌👌

If that ISF had a mechanical lsd like the later versions it would have been a different race.

C63 lost bcaz of Tires , c63 has a disadvantage since it has 235 front 245 rear , bmw have 255 in the rear 245 front ,

@@DKarGarage 2011 isf would have smoked them all

We’re not gonna mentioned how it basically falls apart from the factory?

@@Sessions1 I have one since new and I have never had a problem it is 10 years old

@@joelcabral1467 you’re lucky or you don’t drive it hard. I used to work at bmw and saw countless s65 come with premature rod bearing damage.

@@Sessions1 bro its a BMW we all know they have the reliability of a harbor freight jack stand XD

@@Sessions1 thats a service part.... i have 8 or 9 friends whos m3 live at the ring in germany.... None of them had issues..and there all sub 8 minute BTG

Unfortunately no manual!

V8 c63 rwd n/a too 🫡

@@MikeNotSalty auto in the lexus is way better Shifts way faster

@@lcameeno1 nothing simple tune in the c63 can’t fix

@@lcameeno1 plus it’s the worlds first 8 speed transmission The car was released 2008, which means it had an 8 speed before formula 1 had 8 speed transmission.

Golden era. N/A V8s in IS-F, M3, C63 and RS4.

@@alexquittner3466 all amazing

Except the Skyline 350GT

The Japanese Skyline named ones has unlimited options too. Almost all had the factory LSD which barely any G35s have. My 350gt Coupe is a non revup VQ35DE, but then the revup auto like in this video... (Factory lsd). Makes a huge difference putting power down.

Oh yeah I knew that….

More like bootleg Skylines, if you consider the R34 GT-R non Spec-V would catch up to most of them if not beat them all...

@@YTdelsCmts4NoRsn keyword: they are skylines not GT-Rs. Most people seem to forget that GT-Rs are just the top trim level for skylines, like how there are ordinary Lancers and Imprezas, not just Evos and STis. They were not standalone sports cars. Only the R35 is like that. Of course the GT-R is would be faster, a fair comparison would be to the RWD Skyline 25GT Turbo (ER34).

Fake skyline wheres the turbos huh just a g35

Exactly 👍

DCT are for loosers , real drivers want manual .

@@evil2rs Never understood appeal of manuals. Makes me think the type of people who prefer manuals rather pleasure themselves rather than having their woman pleasure them

@@evil2rs LOL say that to most 911/Ferrari/McLaren owners. At least since the mid 2000s a DCT/automatic shifts so much better than a manual. Only exception might be something made by Ford or Renault lol, their autos move like ass.

@@YTdelsCmts4NoRsn you don’t need to tell me how good a DCT is , I’ve got a R35 GTR . But I would rather a manual any day , way better driver experience. DCT ( well any duel clutch) is boaring with no driver skill. In fact I would rather drive the wife’s 6sp Holden VE HSV R8 than my GTR.

all these cars are some of the finest compact sport luxury sedan made in the late 2000s

Among your picking list, the Infiniti has the best engine pound for pound, the most reliable one also.

@@legioner9 you're high. The 2UR in the Lexus is bulletproof. Have fun with that paper gallery gasket in the VQ.

@@muscleandimports Yeah, the 3.5 V6 or 3.7 Nissan engine are a peace of cake for the 2UR Toyota ... Just ride in an Infiniti and step hard on the throttle. You'll understand.

@@legioner9 exactly, they are a piece of cake for that 5.0 V8 in that Lexus to smoke. I've driven a g37s coupe and a ISF. Hands down the ISF would smoke the Infiniti. Infinitis are nice cars, but quality & reliability goes to Lexus all day. That being said, I would still pick an r34 gtr over just about anything else.. so definitely still have love for Nissan.

Только как туда овощной скай попал я не понимаю😂 не корректное сравнение среди остальных,было бы интересно посмотреть в сравнении с однокласниками бнв335,мерс 3,5 и лексус 3,5,а так все ожидаемо,мерс шпарит на прямой,тормозов не хватает,в поворотах тяжело,мощная тачка для ровных дорог,эмка на мехе это круто конечно,Лексус что-то среднее между мерсом и бэхой,хороший надежный аппарат,каждая хороша по своему У лексуса кста самое быстрое время на круге получилось

2011 is even faster

You can just code it out.

I can tell you after owning one when you're modified and in the high RPM's you don't even hear it. Watching on youtube you notice it, but IRL it just kinda blends into background noise

The three have big v8 engines while the Skyline had a V6 so it was down on power.

@@MisonoMika1 Ohh..did not know that, thanks for the clarification.

the skyline is a v6 so why put it with v8 cars I believe they dont like nissan vehicles they always try to put nissan vehicles in on fear races

Its not silver

Too bad you can't say the same about the RC F. Hell, that thing can't even keep up with a Camaro SS let alone a BMW M2. Just disappointing.

8300 rpm 😍

@@TuranTeam1453 It actually goes up to 8400 rpm. Peak power is at 8300 rpm. I've driven an E92 M3 with DCT over 10 years ago and it was really amazing.

Actually the least performing engine here, it’s lucky it’s in a good chassis.

​@@Sessions1 what? That would be the V6 skyline.

@@Mark-bd5ci we don’t even mention that car 😂😂

It's not two tons. Weighs in at 1680kg dry

And don't round it of either. 300kg is alot of weight to just brush off lol

@@diggarsa8614 Incorrect. The video link itself says it's 1800kg. Depending on the year - 1800-1820 is as light as a C63AMG ever was, they get fatter from the early 2000's onward.. 1800kg - 3968 lbs. 4000lb = 2 tons. Excuse my disregarding 32 lbs - 14kg. Not 300 by a long shot.

@@JayyEVee 4,000lb is not 2 tons. 1ton is 2,204.63 lbs. you’re discounting 400+ pounds.

As much a fan I am of the C63, and I would have it over any of those cars there, it is the car most out of its comfort zone on the track

ITs a dumb car!

This one was a base c63, piloting one with an open diff is insanely unpredictable at the limit lol

@@lopez1102 no, there is no base C63. It came as standard with a limited slip differential. The W204 C63 is a difficult car to handle! Even top gear shows that.

@@kunalmore5212 Incorrect. The LSD was only an option (option code 471 to be precise). The only C63 that came standard with an LSD is the Black Series. On the earlier cars like this one you could get it with the P30 performance pack option alongside stiffer suspension or as a standalone option. The later performance pack was the P31 which didn't include the LSD so you had to spec it individually if you wanted it. Cars equipped with the performance pack also got 30 extra horsepower and some suspension tweaks. This particular car doesn't have any of that judging by the ride height and one wheel drifts. Check the forums

@@brunobegic3841 ok whatever said and done. As far as I know the top spec C63 was called the black series but even that was not able to match the performance of the M3 GTS (watch a video of Chris Harris) doing lap times in each cars. The M3 despite being low on power defeats the C63 black series on the lap!

Plus that rev limiter sounds insane 😃, look it up!

I performance based cars, reliability just feels like a consolation prize.

Keiichi Tsuchiya....The Drift King 😁

@@bape55 He was in the C63.

@@bape55 keiichi drove the mercedes.

These cars were pretty much brand new when they tested them I think (it was shot in 2008). Depending if it's a regular C63 or the one with the P30 performance package, it can have the LSD. I think in the video it's "just" the regular one without LSD, that's why it steps out so violently. It's still great fun though.

@@SgtKanyo It's possible, I just know its not a nice feeling barrelling down on a corner and then hard on the brakes and then that happens. So I checked and the links on my car (Edition 507 with LSD) were not great, car is seven years old you know. So I did a suspension refresh and it made a huge difference!

@@hardusmichaelmuller7283 Oh you were talking about braking? Some cars are set up in a way to get a little oversteer on braking. It helps you take the corner better if you know what you're doing. It's called trailbraking, but yeah using it is quite hard and unnerving. I got a w221 S63 on my side and from factory none of them came with the LSD unfortunately. On corner exit the oversteer is very manageable, but an LSD would make it silky smooth I think. I'm thinking about getting one, but they are mad expensive (one from Renntech for example). And yeah a suspension refresh can change the car's behaviour. I'm guessing your alignment might have been off a bit.

No, The M3's nose was so far up the c63's ass for so long that once he got around him did you see the Gap that he opened up before he did that drift? The M3 driver was just trying not to crash into benz as it wiggled around the track un front of him.

Very reliable but also quite powerful Best of the bunch, bmw and Mercedes at the time already went back to being unreliable and very poorly built. (E39 BMW, E30 M3, M3 E36, E46 M3, and the rival e55 AMG Mercedes are all old but reliable, something they’re all no longer are)

I mean it's really the only decent sports sedan they made in the 21 century.

@@YTdelsCmts4NoRsn The Evo Doesn’t exist I guess

Right, the IS-F driver just let the Benz and bimmer pass on the straight. All 3 of those cars have nearly the same straight line acceleration, so they wouldn't be able to fly by like that.

what do ya expect,its a luxury brand. Not as track focused as the M3 :) Mercedes is to look nice,feel nice,sound nice and go fast,maybe a bodybuilder,the M3 is more of an athlete

A year or five later, and I know which one would still be close to its performance here, without issues.

Brand new those cars are better than the IsF. But right now? The IsF will still be on the track compare to the Germans in this segment

"This M3 is the best" & "What time is the sushi ready"

Skyline???

@@Vennillion Skyline＝in japan name, Noth America name＝Infiniti G35

E90 M3? Depreciate? They literally shot up in value... Same with E46 m3, etc...

M3 was 66,000$ when new.. the ISF was 65,000$. And E9X M3’s are selling at over 30k easily and some have even reached 100,000$. Do some basic research before talking about something.

It's a similar engine structure. Same amount of cams, hp, torque, same size pistons, just different piston jump, a lot shorter than coyote

More like the coyote sounds like the ISF since the Lexus came out in '08 and the 'yote came out in '11 😉 Also, I'd take lexus engineering all day over Ford

I’m willing to bet Ford analyzed the 2UR to finally make a decent V8

The difference would have been negligible. The DCT although faster is quite a bit heavier than the manual, and the weight difference between the coupe and sedan is just 30kg, so a DCT coupe would have actually been slightly heavier than a manual sedan.

@@brunobegic3841 gearing in the DCT is. shorter and the diff is also better suited to this kind of track. Im 100% sure on a small track like this the DCT car would do better. Sedans vs coupes perform almost identically so no difference there.

Hahahahah loser car!! M3 rocks!! Every generation of M3 is superior to the C63! In fact every BMW is superior to a Merc

@@kunalmore5212 😄

AMG 💪

i think they prob feel controlling minivans.... You can tell they dont get enough feedback from the cars.

@@cchangg I own a c63 and they’re heavy cars the would rather slide around a corner vs stay planted. But then again my autox car is a 2005 sti with nothing stock under it. The c63 is fun to drift

The c63 had more power than the M3, so it was difficult for the M3 to overtake on the straight. But you can see a big difference in corner handling and that's where the M3 won the fight.

@@kerimmejdoub1381 cornering entry and corner exit acceleration are much better on the m3 because it it has much better traction then the merc. changing tires on the mercedes would make a big difference

Ultimately what cost it hella time on this race

If I find i will upload!

Original supra dont have chance

1000hp mk4 will walk the gtr with ease

Whats funny is that the 350gt was in D and not DS. Lord thats impressive.

I know, super impressive it still kept up though

@@jairoguerra5149 Exactly what i was annoyed with. Why the heck was it only in D?

i’m annoyed bc they didn’t use the 6MT transmission in it. i have that g35 sedan with the 6mt it’s so much fun and the gears aren’t crazy long like the 5at

Japan market doesn't have a manual in the sedan. I've got a 50th anniversary v36 and wish they came in manual. Never here people manual swapping them either:(