Track Race #48 | Z4 vs 370Z vs Boxster vs Cayman vs 911 

Too powerful for a rainy day like this...

never seen that color in the united states. or any blue ones from the 987.2 generation.

Totally agree!!!

I've just noticed that for the money ill get for selling my s13 i could buy a cayman. How much the parts and repair cost? Are they crazy expensive?

@@Scarl3t03 It depends on what you define as "crazy expensive". The most i've paid for my Cayman was a 4 set of 19" Turbo wheels which I bought and fitted recently, and they were sold for £1500. Other than that, smaller parts and service is alot more affordable than you might expect. There are some videos that delve into the running costs of a 987 Cayman/Boxster, but you could also look up websites like Design911 which have lists for specific models and generals. Overall, for being a Porsche, both running costs and insurance are alot more accessible. But of course, only take the plunge if you have the spare money in your savings lol Would be awesome if you bought yourself a Cayman 🤙

@@RossCuth it may sound crazy, but i realized it have the same running cost or even cheaper than my s-13 or my old z32 twin turbo. After reading the price of parts and replacements i was really Wtf, and even the whole car it's more cheap than I thought, i can literally sell my s-13 add some bucks and have a cayman. I think I've never look their prices because I believed it was crazy expensive

@@Scarl3t03 That's awesome to hear! I will say that if you're looking at GEN 1 987 Caymans from 05 - 08, alot of them are cheaper overall because of the potential IMS Bearing fault, which unlike the 996 911 or 986 Boxster, isn't really an issue. You'd have to be really unlucky to suffer from the fault, as it can just wreck your car, but by the time of the Cayman, it was a non-issue. And you can get a fix for it. GEN 2 987 Caymans from 09 - 12 got a totally new engine that resolved this problem, along with new exterior and interior styling, and a power bump. This is the model I went for, because even tho it's a non-issue, I just know i'd be one of the unlucky few to suffer an IMS Bearing failure and i'd be really anxious to drive my own car because of it, but I don't get that with the GEN 2 so it's all chill times all the time for me lol. Now because of this facelift and because they're rarer as they came out during the end of the Great Recession, 987.2s are just more more expensive. But I absolutely believe they are absolutely worth the price. Any Cayman is worth the price imo, so i'm really glad to hear that it looks like you'll be taking the plunge. Just do some research first to find the best Cayman for you 😎👌

I have one. It is indeed but i prefer the 911. You don’t get the same umph and feeling in cayman

Agree, but definitely fast enough (Got a 370Z last year, it still scares me, and that’s with traction control on) haha

​@@spinnymathingy3149Same here😊 I don't get why folks say the 370 isn't that fast. Scared me a few times. But I'm old 😅

They drive 50% throttle with beemers bro

I think that not, he havent the engine in the middle, It is a great point fit cayman and boxster

And i think that the diference of power between the boxster/cayman va 911 is not more than 50horse power and the 911 have more weigth

@@gsilvaa_0592 911S 385hp/310tq 3274 lbs vs Cayman S 320hp/273tq 3031 lbs, 911 should have won hands down. He was slowed down by traffic the entire time, and the 911 has better gearing (~20% extra tq).

The Carrera in the wet is more of a handful than the mid engined Cayman. Carrera had the power, but you could see the rear end step out at one point.

@@pauljoyquilter359 Regardless of that it still posted ~2 sec faster on it's best lap.

They put the most powerful at the back.

No, this is track,grip racing. Initial D is all about Togue or mountain pass driving where the series of hairpins led to drift style. Dori,the racer in green is a pioneer but he was gripping here. Plus except for the Nissan these are all German cars. Initial D is mostly JDM. Love how professional and polite these guys are. Ego doesn't get in the way of fun racing.

You mean MF Ghost, this is nothing like Initial D, Initial D is mounting Racing & limited to JDM 🤦‍♂ MF Ghost has porsche, Lamborghinis & other foreigner cars, it's fairer to compare it to that series

I belive TTS is match for these cars. But these are sport cars not hairdressers cars 😀

I actually bought this same generation of Cayman S, and test drove a 997 911 Carrera S as well before I bought the cayman. The cayman both drives and looks better than the 911. Put a better throttle body on the car and some other minor bolt ons, and you now have a car that costs less, is faster in a straight line, handles better, looks better, and is more fun than a Carrera S. Seriously.

@@MrLemonadefreak I own a GT4 for the track and I agree. Although the last generation just needs shorter gears, or a shorter rear axle. Thats everything I have to complain about. The 911 is very, very, very good and capable, but the GT4 gives you an "oldschool" drivers feeling and also lots of performance.

@@Gentleman...Driver Damn! Just disregard everything I just said then please, you already own the ultimate in the line 😂 But ya, I always heard about how the 718 and 981 generations had weirdly long gearing. Still some of the best cars on the planet though

​@@MrLemonadefreak Thanks, mate. I appreciate the car so far, and I will continue to drive the shit out of it. :)

I would have one if tall people could fit in them

You are gonna really enjoy getting left in the dust in the straights by mustangs and vettes and then getting stuck behind them in the next corner right away. It’s up to what type of tracks you are adjacent to (straight-dominant or not).

And the Boxster doesn’t?🤔

The real reason to get an MX-5 for the track is because of all the group miata races. When it has its own category, you can really see who is actually just the best driver

But as a Cayman owner, the cayman I better, by a lot. There's a reason it's twice the price

I'm pretty sure these were all bone stock. Factory tires and everything so they're comparing the cars right off the lot. Production suspension, tires, power, etc.

No. No it wouldn’t.

@@gregmayled i mean when the z got passed by the cayman, it was due to late braking at the 1st hair pin, the weight distribution allows for such driving. So change weight distribution or go square tires all around on the z like most track z's do and it may be a different story.

Then it would be 10k more in MSRP and a whole lot more to maintain. But still, it would be a net good if some Japanese brand make an MR car in the $35-50k price range.

@@gregmayled it would be faster

Dont forget the Cayman and 911 have $20k+ dual clutch PDK transmissions practically straight out of the challenge race cars like what you would find in a Skyline or Ferrari. Not regular H-pattern manuals or slush boxes.

Lol no they don’t. Well the Porsche’s don’t anyway.

There wasn't a M Z4 E89, they should've used the previous model E86. Even the non M 3 litre would've been better than the E89.

@@jordanb97 lordy that was a bad miss by me. I had a Z4M and when I looked at this Z4 in the race I thought it was the same generation but it's not it's the newer generation and like you say, No dedicated M model. And the model in the show did have 300 odd bhp. Thanks. My mistake.

@@jordanb97 ? E89 smokes all of e85's and e86's, e89 35is was the fastest Z4 until this new generation

@@kabobobo1995 😂

Because the Motor is in the middle😂

the PDK shifts quicker than you can manually and therefore is faster.

@@pauljoyquilter359 What if you dont like the gear its selected and want a different gear ?

@@fredsalfa they cayman was is manual mode noob

@@fredsalfa - You change it with the paddles! Have you ever driven a PDK equipped Porsche?

@@pauljoyquilter359 Yes Ive driven a Porsche 911 997.2 with the shift buttons. But there clearly not using the paddles in this video

What do you mean? They'd LOVE for the Japanese car to win every time lol .. watch any NSX video they sand bag all the other cars to let it win every time

I'm very unsure how the C2S didn't take this with ease.

@@brandonmulford5524 it's because these drivers doesn't want to drive properly in other cars than the japanese ones.

@@coach4050 What? Z was only japanese car in the race. Stop complaining like a bitch in these best motoring videos.

911 only lost because it started at the back in the starting grid. The driver wasn't bad, they just can't make aggressive passes since these cars are likely on loan to them or can't be damaged. If you look at the fastest lap times the 911 would have easily won with more laps. The Cayman does put up a really good fight though and always punches above its weight (I should know, I chose to buy one over a 911 cause its more fun and handles better). If the Carrera had started further up in the grid it almost certainly would have won, but this was clearly more of a test of how fun they are on the track over the actual peak performance

Lol🤣🤣🤣🤣yeah sure😜

Nismo so bad car

@@Abuji_Mohashino 🤣🤣

So bad car

황봉팔 Lmao ive pulled on Z4’s and Boxter S’s in my 350z Hr with only a shitty Nismo exhaust from factory lmao i havnt came across a Cayman S but one of these days i will but it will probably be close

Nismo is a slow shitbox just like they are at all track days I go too.