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Training to Failure for Muscle Growth (HUGE MISTAKE?) 

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If you are training to failure, are you making a huge mistake? In this video, I am going to explain the importance of knowing what failure is and how to apply it to your training when it comes to building muscle. This might be one of the most important videos I have ever made and I want to make sure that you understand how critical this concept is if you want to build more muscle.
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It starts with knowing what you are training for: strength versus hypertrophy to be specific. When you are training for strength applications, whether that is through percentage based training or the use of RPE, you aren’t aiming for failure. As a matter of fact, this is a situation where you need to be training short of failure.
The irony of this situation, however, is that you need to know what your failure point is in order to gauge your percentage or RPE number. Just remember, though; your maximum effort is your last rep - knowing that you cannot complete another rep at all.
When it comes to muscle growth, your knowledge of failure becomes that much more important. This starts with defining what failure is. We know that there are a myriad of forms of failure; there is form failure (not being able to complete another rep in good form), mechanical failure (not being to move the weight at all), or even eccentric failure (not being able to control the weight through the eccentric portion of the lift even after using a little cheat or momentum to get the weight moving through the concentric).
There is also a nuance in the type of lift you are performing. Reaching failure on a pulling exercise is going to look much different than on a pushing exercise. Take the lat pulldown versus the bench press for example; with the lat pulldown, you are able to cheat your way through a few extra reps by using a little extra momentum on the concentric. On the other hand, the bench press does not allow for any cheating through the use of momentum.
Leg training is more like the pushing exercises as well, there is a lack of momentum that can be used on most exercises.
Now, another factor of training to failure that has to be taken into account is what rep range you are training in. When lifting in a lower rep range, such as 4-6 reps, you will notice that fatigue comes very quickly and failure is reached within a rep of that fatigue. In moderate rep ranges, such as 8-12 reps, failure starts to approach later, but you are able to squeak out at least another rep or two. In higher rep ranges, your ability to grind through reps where you are fatigued becomes greater.
Some might think that those repetitions where you have to grind them out, when reaching failure, is considered form breakdown. If you take the examples that I am showing you in this video, you can see that the reps are still attempted and completed in good form. They reps still look like the exercise that is being performed. In this case of pulling exercises, this is where you allow for a little cheat / momentum. On the pushing exercises, you won’t be able to cheat them, but as long as the repetitions look like they are supposed to (in terms of form) then you need not worry.
The problem with all of this, however, is the lack of knowledge of failure is and when it occurs. Why? If you don’t know what failure is when training to build muscle, especially when you are prescribed to stop short of failure, then you are leaving gains on the table. You might be quitting the set when you have more reps in the tank. RPE and reps in reserve are hard to gauge without knowing what failure looks and feels like. The problem here is you might be gauging your reps too short of failure - you might be basing this off of initial fatigue, not true failure. So when you are told to train with reps in reserve or RPE, instead of stopping short of 12 reps, you might be stopping short of 8 reps when you could have pulled out a few more that would have been your ultimate failing point.
The fact of the matter is that you need to have knowledge of what failure is, what it looks like, and most importantly, what it feels like if you want to build more muscle.
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@athleanx
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@andreisw6847
@andreisw6847 Год назад
@@Pslam23JesusIsLord Jesus Christ is king!
@weewud
@weewud Год назад
always to late :c
@mynmeisname4825
@mynmeisname4825 Год назад
@@Pslam23JesusIsLord innocent doesn't has to die for sins of guilty
@martinrheaume5393
@martinrheaume5393 Год назад
As a 40 year old who's getting into lifting, I had to redefine what it meant to be disciplined. When I was younger, discipline meant always going hard, getting one more rep, not being lazy. Now, discipline means checking my ego at the door, keeping the weight under control, don't push through with bad form.
@vurified
@vurified Год назад
I learned this at 13 years old. Thankfully, I never pushed myself enough hard to get injured, but I had gotten very close to on several occasions.
@martinrheaume5393
@martinrheaume5393 Год назад
@@vurified Ok, when I was younger, I didn't know it was possible to get injured lifting unless I dropped a dumbbell on my head. But now, my joints are weaker than my muscles and I have to be on the lookout for the slightest elbow pain or weakness in the shoulder, or creaky knees...
@vurified
@vurified Год назад
@@martinrheaume5393 Damn, how bad was the injury?
@hydraxc2478
@hydraxc2478 Год назад
​@@vurifiedI don't think he had an injury. He's just more thoughtful about his body in his 40s because he could hurt himself if not careful.
@jaybee2402
@jaybee2402 Год назад
You seem to be lying. You claimed to be getting into lifting at 40, yet also when you were younger you'd weight train with intensity.
@jn7sky
@jn7sky Год назад
Before I enter the gym. 1. Leave ego at the door. 2. Work Hard/Stay Humble. 3. Who cares what others think; they will think it anyway. 4. You versus You (Thanks Jeff).
@funk-n-groovin6779
@funk-n-groovin6779 Год назад
this ^
@anthonycolozzi8256
@anthonycolozzi8256 Год назад
Great attitude and way of looking at anything in life.
@TML34
@TML34 Год назад
5. Side eye the hot chicks. 😄
@zevolfearizona2113
@zevolfearizona2113 Год назад
When I see someone get on a flat bench with 10lb plates on, I am actually impressed. I know if they keep that ego in check, they will be popping soon.
@MaximusWolfe
@MaximusWolfe Год назад
Actually comparing your self to stronger dudes is a good way of motivating.
@felixhbhobs
@felixhbhobs Год назад
Jeff makes even failure sound fun
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Год назад
It kinda is fun. You know what you're made of. OK, it's not a war or a Colosseum gladiator battle (I would encourage people to avoid violence) but it's the safe/responsible way to feel some of that primal feeling and sense of drama. Even if you're combating yourself, from body's perspective, it's the same thing
@rayray3357
@rayray3357 Год назад
You’d love Jeff to go to failure on you
@ghosta443
@ghosta443 Год назад
Failure is amazing. It's my greatest motivator to go to gym and bring myself to that point again and again. Nothing feels more masculine
@MrDjhealth
@MrDjhealth Год назад
stop making fun of Jesse 😀
@lucacrasuc5927
@lucacrasuc5927 10 месяцев назад
I love these joke comments to Jeff please continue 😂
@mariocatanese1011
@mariocatanese1011 Год назад
There is a reason why you have so many subscribers. You really explain things well, thank you for sharing all of your great insight!
@nomnomyourmom
@nomnomyourmom Год назад
0:40 Strength 1:20 Form Failure 2:08 Mechanical Failure, Concentric/Isometric/Eccentric Failure 3:05 Push/Pull/Leg, Heavy/Moderate/Light, Compound/Isolation 3:50 Heavy Pull 6:10 Moderate Pull 7:40 Importance of determine your true Failure 8:35 Light Pull 10:05 Beginner 11:35 Heavy Push 12:25 Moderate Push 13:15 Rep Pacing 14:10 Light Push
@joshkarian5379
@joshkarian5379 Год назад
I know you wrote this with the best intentions, but I feel like thid might not mean much to people who haven't actually watched the video 😂
@nomnomyourmom
@nomnomyourmom Год назад
@@joshkarian5379 Wrote this for myself, others watching the video or not is up to them.
@MrDingaling007
@MrDingaling007 Год назад
​@@joshkarian5379 quit yer complaining
@ti703
@ti703 Год назад
​@@joshkarian5379 Youre Josh Karen😂
@joshkarian5379
@joshkarian5379 Год назад
@@MrDingaling007 where was the complaint?
@rogue000six
@rogue000six Год назад
Love seeing you guys. Always quality content, always encouraging. Thanks for giving us the tools to be better, and better, and keep pushing.
@WithTheBears
@WithTheBears Год назад
I've followed Jeff for about 5-6 years now and this video has been the best one in a long time. I took this mindset of real failure and pushing into the grind into my very next workout. The intensity was just next level and I felt worked harder than I have in a long time.
@lawrencetrujillo7365
@lawrencetrujillo7365 11 месяцев назад
I like Jeff because I’m 90% sure he is one of the rare nattys.
@somasa998
@somasa998 11 месяцев назад
​@@lawrencetrujillo7365He is indeed
@sebaleal3081
@sebaleal3081 9 месяцев назад
I agree. I trained this way 3 days ago and I still have muscle pain due to the hardness of the training, when in 2 days I would have recovered.
@LiftOffLife
@LiftOffLife 9 месяцев назад
Train to failure then drop set to 50% of your failure weight and then go further to failure...massive gains for me 💪
@tibitheking350
@tibitheking350 8 месяцев назад
I still not understand - how much failure can be in the gym? I make my first chest set fail, second fail, third fail making 8-9 reps. Next chest exercise & same. Too much failure. Wtf how much failure we need - I should make only one exercise one or two set - 15 min and go home? Wtf total not understand
@garyseighman8588
@garyseighman8588 Год назад
I've watched this channel for a while and it's arguably his most helpful video. It answered many of the questions that I've had for years about failure. Thanks, Jeff!
@lawrencetrujillo7365
@lawrencetrujillo7365 11 месяцев назад
Jeff is the real natty king.
@alexmoosz9462
@alexmoosz9462 10 месяцев назад
This was probably the most valuable video I’ve seen in a along time. I’m going back to the drawing board on all my training. I’ve clearly been repping shy of where I should’ve been repping. Thx.
@WilliamusTrades
@WilliamusTrades Год назад
Great talk. Push the limits to find the limits. I remember the Athlean-X "22 days" pull-up video and testing max hang time. I thought there was NOTHING left in the tank for hang time but then I closed my eyes and pushed myself to just keep hanging on. I got around another 30 seconds of hang time AFTER I decided that there was nothing left
@kamesna6641
@kamesna6641 Год назад
Perfect video at the right time. So glad you included an example of the Straight Arm Push Downs. I did those yesterday and was questioning on the failures. Same with the Pull Downs.
@jwwaco
@jwwaco Год назад
I’ve found the mental strength you exercise from weights, running, rowing , etc., is a hard earned benefit that makes you grow as an athlete. I always think the last rep, the last 100 meters in a run or the last 500 meters in a row are by far the most important. If you can’t do that then I wouldn’t waste my time. I’m 65 and I don’t quit.
@equest943
@equest943 Год назад
When Jeff said he was going to show what failure looks like I coulda swore a picture of me was about to pop up on the screen.
@Giannis81S
@Giannis81S Год назад
Thank you Jeff!! You certainly have a point here, but in my experience, even if you pay special attention to the form of the exercise, pushing to failure like that maximizes the risk of injury and that becomes counterproductive in the end. Now if I was 20-25 again and had good knowledge of form, that could work, but I am 42 and I don't know how far I could push this concept. It is a thing to keep in mind though.
@nomnomyourmom
@nomnomyourmom 10 месяцев назад
Jeff's 48, don't just learn the form of the exercises but learn how to reach failure on all rep ranges for all exercises, instead of this chicken little mindset.
@ndrew5809
@ndrew5809 5 месяцев назад
Love this video. I started lifting like everyone else by lifting the heaviest I can do within 10-12 reps. Now I naturally started going for much lighter weights aiming for 14-16 reps while adding body weight exercises. This has definitely transformed my gym routine and helps me keep my body lean and not built
@swdw973
@swdw973 3 месяца назад
This is very helpful. Due to a collar bone injury that left me with hypermobiliy in the SC joint, I don't lift heavy anymore. This, and the newer video on this, are encouraging as I was not aware of the newer info on hypertrophy. Thanks a bunch.
@augustingarnier4625
@augustingarnier4625 Год назад
Thanks to your channel, Jeff, I tell myself near the end of a rep "Train like an athlete!" and it gives me that extra push to form-failure. 6-months into your program I could not be more satisfied!
@darioinfini
@darioinfini Год назад
I used to hear Arnold say "let's get serious" near the end of the set. Or more recently Ronnie Coleman screaming "lightweight". Anything to psychologically motivate yourself to get through the grind.
@realist8967
@realist8967 10 месяцев назад
I scream "SHIT what was I thinking" on my last rep.
@brianbatts5073
@brianbatts5073 Год назад
Gold! The title of this video should have been, "What it means to GRIND". I love how you showed videos of the different levels and what a decent grind looks like with good form and how you can tell from spacing/time between reps. Great stuff.
@csongorpoko2831
@csongorpoko2831 9 месяцев назад
Great video, thanks for it! The video recordings were very demonstrative and well-explaining! I would be glad to see a second video in this topic. The focus could be more some of the followings: -training failure in exercises where the core plays a role (sq, dl) -training failure compounds vs. isolation -training failure in bodyweight exercises (e.g. pull-up) -training failure in skill/strenght training Thank you in advance, Csongor
@Toffinater
@Toffinater Год назад
“It’s you vs you at the gym” 100% on point. Great stuff.
@jayringo77
@jayringo77 Год назад
This is an excellent video. Doctrinal terms with clear, precise definitions improve our ability to communicate, especially in situations where context is so important. Maybe a "fitness term defined" at the end of each video? Coach - setting and enforcing standards for improving our workouts once again.
@mikeg3293
@mikeg3293 4 месяца назад
I’m 67 this year, returned to the gym after 35 yr break. Thanks to this man I’ve put two inches on my chest and inch bicep in 8 weeks. Worked hard but his advice has been spot on.
@comanchio1976
@comanchio1976 12 дней назад
That's a pretty bold claim. Are you measuring those muscles straight after/day after exercising those particular muscles, or waiting a day or 2 after? I asked that because, as you'll likely know, they stay pumped for some time, rather than actually gaining it in muscle tissue. 8 weeks seems quite a stretch, even with much younger individuals, unless they're juicing, obviously. Are you on TRT or something, if you don't mind me asking...?
@ajinkyamuley5375
@ajinkyamuley5375 11 месяцев назад
Agree with most comments. One of the best videos. Really understood failure & this immensely helps with gym time
@DuelScreen
@DuelScreen Год назад
This is such a good video. Thank you for the clarity and the examples. This was super helpful.
@deedee20062008
@deedee20062008 11 месяцев назад
Fully agree as long as you’re not injuring yourself… if the last few forced reps are done in a safely manner and don’t cause any discomfort 100% go for it!
@innocentrage1
@innocentrage1 Год назад
Been doing 12, 10, 8, 6 reps for years. Found this and another RU-vidr mention going to failure or close to failure and it has been so much better results wise since I've been doing this
@rickinwast
@rickinwast 11 месяцев назад
Good information. The philosophy transfers over into my road bike workouts: Performing intervals and gridding out a sprint up a hill.
@icypursuit5368
@icypursuit5368 Год назад
I watch a lot of your videos, but this one was excellent. It's clear up a lot a mist that other people's videos had created.
@JD-mz1rl
@JD-mz1rl Год назад
Jesse looks like 10% of his head is missing inside his hat
@nateclark4254
@nateclark4254 Год назад
I’m on gear and I know a lot of us don’t do much learning from Jeff. Body building is just different training. But, it’s so important to understand what the athlean crew puts out and regardless of what road you take, this channel is awesome. Love you Jeff!
@jamesgraham9647
@jamesgraham9647 7 месяцев назад
This video has made it more clear for me when it comes to failure and how I can use this concept to increase my gains. Form is the most important part.
@JeffCutlip247
@JeffCutlip247 Год назад
Thank you very much for all this information, Jeff.
@paulh2832
@paulh2832 Год назад
Really useful video, as a solo trainer clarified for me what I should be aiming for, thanks.
@MovewithDrMike
@MovewithDrMike Год назад
I also believe there is a lot of value of being able to work through through full range of motion and to emphasize the stretch portion of the lift. For instance like on a pull up being able to hang at the bottom for at least 1 second with elbows fully extended and shoulders at nearly full flexion gives the greatest lat stretch and places extreme load to the muscle! Great video Jeff!
@BWater-yq3jx
@BWater-yq3jx 9 месяцев назад
However, correct pullup form does not involve a full hang at the bottom - there should be structure.
@Claudio.forte.t
@Claudio.forte.t 4 месяца назад
Finally, somebody who explains in a way that makes sense. Grazie Jeff.
@janetatuniquerawfoods2361
@janetatuniquerawfoods2361 Год назад
Yes. I’ve noticed this. And sometimes even after a ‘grind’ rep…. I find sometimes I can just change my breathing and body alignment slightly… to free up the working part to do a few more. Thank you.
@miquelbech5580
@miquelbech5580 Год назад
I've been watching your videos for 5+ years, and you got me into training to (or close to) failure. Prior to watching your videos, I had no intention of training to failure as I was under the impression that the idea was to push oneself to the point where form breaks down to such a degree that the exercise becomes downright dangerous. But incorporating the concept of training to failure into my training has really helped me grow - both physically and mentally. Previously, I would leave the gym thinking "it's so refreshing to move your body". Now my glutes and quads almost give in walking up the three steps to the showers. I do full body workouts mixing explosive moves and heavy ones, and I will generally leave 1 rep in the tank for the first 2 sets of my heavy exercises and then go to failure on the last set, however, I don't have a spotter, so how close to failure I go depends on what feels safe. For squats, I take it to the point where I don't feel that I will be able to complete the next rep, so I don't get stuck at the bottom of a rep. For overhead presses, I go to concentric failure on the last set and then do 1-2 cheat reps with a controlled eccentric. And for bench presses, I stick with dumbbells so I can drop them if need be. And it's quite clear that I'm doing this compromise with the squat as that is my weakest lift and the one progressing the slowest - but I'd rather go slow than get hurt.
@mattgosling2657
@mattgosling2657 Год назад
Yeah mate I agree with you, its way safer to be using dumbbells if you're pushing yourself hard.
@bobnoxious719
@bobnoxious719 Год назад
I find for me that if I go to failure on the last set of every exercise I do, the fatigue builds quickly and within a few days of training different body parts, I can't get back to it as I'm outta gas. So for my 58 y.o. ass, I try to stop a few reps shy of failure so I can function at work and throughout the day. Love your content.
@Matts130
@Matts130 Год назад
Im 29 and share your opinion. Not going to failure in EVERY exercise optimize my recovery and dont make me so tired in others activities
@bobnoxious719
@bobnoxious719 11 месяцев назад
Yeah
@gillihansmobilewelding
@gillihansmobilewelding 4 месяца назад
It helps if you go to the gym less and failure more.
@GeeeEm61
@GeeeEm61 3 месяца назад
I think the point is to gauge your recovery time, then when you assess you are fully recovered go to failure again. In between these days, rep to 1-3 RIR for faster recovery. That’s my take away from this.
@3komma141592653
@3komma141592653 Месяц назад
People really are different. I rarely feel any sour muscle at all even thou i try to go to failure most of the time. But hey, i am "only" 40. Only regret i haven't started earlier more serious.
@DrDeepstack
@DrDeepstack Год назад
Such a quality content this channel has, truly amazing.
@MrDevinferreira
@MrDevinferreira Год назад
Thank you for making this video, glad you demonstrated this on different exercises.
@danielmulero2816
@danielmulero2816 Год назад
This video is top quality! Jeff, you mentioned briefly how training for power successfully could look like. Could you elaborate on the specific training for different goals, like speed, agility, power, endurance... I really appreciate your content!
@nomnomyourmom
@nomnomyourmom Год назад
watch;this;video: "SIX PACK ABS TRAINING (Complete Guide!) - athleanx"
@nicero870
@nicero870 Год назад
I didn’t understand the concept of training to failure until I discovered Mike Mentzer’s “Heavy Duty “ in the late 90s. It literally supercharged my gains and cut my training time in half. Can’t train as hard at 53, but I still follow the principals.
@oscarperez5539
@oscarperez5539 6 месяцев назад
So do you leave a rep or two in the tank/not go to true failure?
@KiranKumari-cy4gf
@KiranKumari-cy4gf 5 месяцев назад
​@@oscarperez5539Mike mentzer advocated to leave no reps in reserve for maximum muscle growth
@uuzoo
@uuzoo 3 месяца назад
Excellent video. Back in my early competitive powerlifting days. A long time ago. How I trained is that I wanted to complete every rep of that set. Not only that but I wanted to make sure I could do at least one more rep, but I didn't. That was the key. That was my game plan. I always planned in advanced before I even started my contest training. All my weights and sets and reps that I would be doing. I made sure I completed every one to a tee. I won competitions doing it that way. I never burned-out or got injured. I got a lot of this concept from GOAT Ed Coan.
@edbutzwiggle4227
@edbutzwiggle4227 7 месяцев назад
Awesome! Thanks again guys. Always very educational!!
@dawnturitto8442
@dawnturitto8442 9 месяцев назад
I love training to failure when it comes to upper body. My issue is doing the same with lower body. The soreness experienced to training to failure (especially sith quad-focused exercises) always leads me to extreme soreness that lasts for days. I have yet to move past that...
@nomnomyourmom
@nomnomyourmom 9 месяцев назад
Stretch every night
@I-Kishz
@I-Kishz 8 месяцев назад
Would be best to welcome this feeling of soreness as a sign that growth is going on and handle accordingly (giving your legs enough rest to recover albeit a week e.g) through Mike Mentzers principle of HIT
@dawnturitto8442
@dawnturitto8442 8 месяцев назад
@@I-Kishz you know, there's something to that mindset.
@edep3970
@edep3970 5 месяцев назад
I love when I'm still sore 2 or 3 days after hitting legs. Also puts a smile on my face when I stumble to my truck after legs
@matmachina
@matmachina Год назад
This video was extremely helpful. Even for experienced athletes. Thank you kindly Jeff and Jesse
@brexistentialism7628
@brexistentialism7628 Год назад
Ah mate, out of the very many athlean x videos I find this one to be one of the most detailed videos. This is, I guess, highly educating for many guys out there!
@AlexMillZenLifeCoach
@AlexMillZenLifeCoach Год назад
Extremely helpful. Thank you!
@DustinDoesStuff
@DustinDoesStuff Год назад
Going to true failure is not just about wearing your muscles down as much as you can. Your also working your nervous system, and that true failure rep where you are giving it everything you have, is stimulating your nervous system to send a strong signal to your muscles.
@angmori172
@angmori172 Год назад
Due to shoulder injuries I only go as far as a first grinder on heavy push. But I freaking love doing my accessory (1 heavy, 1 accessory per muscle group and workout) to up to 30 reps on the last set as a monster finisher, all the way to cramping muscle failure.
@alaaentabi7879
@alaaentabi7879 Год назад
the effort hes doing with 100 or 90 lb dumbells is a recipe to sent someone to rotator cuff snap city I dnw why no oen grinds like that on bench which is more stable, but say you have to grind it on dumbells which are less stable
@ponyslavestation4669
@ponyslavestation4669 Год назад
@@alaaentabi7879 Ur lost 😂😂
@MrMom950
@MrMom950 Год назад
Just what I needed.. thanks for this in depth video
@ApocalipticRider
@ApocalipticRider Год назад
Great video and lots of different inputs and information to incorporate. I just got one tiny thing to mention for the setup: If you use a laptop or a tablet like in this one, try not to place it in between you and the camera. It creates a sort of barrier to the viewer and blocks a lot of the gestures you use to emphasize a point. Maybe try to set it up a little lower to hide it completely or move it to the side 👍🏼
@zay5342
@zay5342 Год назад
main reason i train till failure is to train the mind
@emello4you
@emello4you Год назад
Main reason I do is to have a killer tomato face.
@augustingarnier4625
@augustingarnier4625 Год назад
Right! That wonderful adage; "The body commands the mind, and the mind fails. The mind commands the body, and the body obeys".
@allanmain5666
@allanmain5666 Год назад
On that note, I love the conversation about actually training to failure so as to know what true failure looks like. And not quitting too soon, and thinking that you have an idea of total failure.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Год назад
@@allanmain5666 Red face color + making involuntary ugly faces + involuntarily shaking muscle. IMO those are the certain signs, and without them it's not a failure
@Blackenedpickle
@Blackenedpickle Год назад
I always believed the mind is the best weapon
@danqodusk8140
@danqodusk8140 Год назад
Good topic and presentation as always. Jeff, we could also say we can't move weights until we literally fail as that would be very very reckless and dangerous, meaning simply dropping the weights. We always have to have enough remaining energy to safely return the weights to the floor or rack. I think I just discovered a practical definition of training to failure. We move the weights until we can't complete one more repetition, but still have enough energy to safely return the weights back to where they belong on the floor or rack!
@danielwhatarethose
@danielwhatarethose Год назад
Someone fails at the gym. Jeff over here what are the different types of failure how many different ways can one fail. The extensive research so in depth on failure. Appreciated this very much
@yordanangelov8085
@yordanangelov8085 Год назад
Awesome video,guys! Love you, can you also do a video about costochondritis ?
@patalappu1898
@patalappu1898 Год назад
You should get the Rode Wireless Go II and give Jesse a mic too 😅 great vid btw 🤙
@fragglefknrock7568
@fragglefknrock7568 11 месяцев назад
Mike Mentzer is known as one of the most technical tactical lifters to have ever existed. High effort short frame training to failure was a key point in his success and he wrote about it.
@EvaK7
@EvaK7 9 месяцев назад
Mike Mentzer 👍🏻✨
@HighhPlainsDrifter
@HighhPlainsDrifter 8 месяцев назад
YES! 😂 Mentzer & Arthur Jones were pseudo SCIENITISTS. Arthur had a grade 9 EDUCATION, while Mike studied some Philosophy in college, never even graduating 🎓 😮😂. So they MUST have known, SCIENTIFICALLY, what constitutes productive exercise!🤥🤥😉😂....Or were they really door to door VACUUM & ENCYCLOPEDIA SALESMEN???😮😅😅
@martinw245
@martinw245 7 месяцев назад
Also disputed by modern excercise scientists. They tell us that volume is hypertrophic as long as you can recover and that 1 to 3 RIR is enough
@garymurfee4290
@garymurfee4290 Год назад
This is great stuff, Jeff
@Dandeeman26
@Dandeeman26 Год назад
Hay Jesse hard work looks like it paid off good job man!👏
@Steve-nu9op
@Steve-nu9op Год назад
agreed, its about time it takes to move the weight. if its taking 5 seconds to push or pull the weight vs your first rep that took like 1 second, youre good
@timl.b.2095
@timl.b.2095 Год назад
I like this format. Just calm and sensible discussion. And I know I don't train to failure, a couple reps or so shy of it. On the other hand, I am 70 years old.
@stephengreen3367
@stephengreen3367 Год назад
67 here and I think that's the right approach.
@naasking
@naasking Год назад
100% the right approach. Higher rep ranges, 1-3 reps shy of failure.
@basiliskarkampounas775
@basiliskarkampounas775 Год назад
Congratulations!!! Thanks again!!
@Bevzthejcs
@Bevzthejcs 8 месяцев назад
This is a great video. Thank you!
@HoliGallistur1023
@HoliGallistur1023 Год назад
Effectiveness is the whole point of this (Training for Strength and Muscle Growth)
@salmon8765
@salmon8765 Год назад
Great stuff guys, as always. One thing is not clear though. Is the training to failure when training for hypertrophy, supposed to be applied to every set of each exercise? Or, are you suggesting that we train through the grind to reach failure only on the last set? For example, the 5th set, of each performed exercise? Thank you!
@aat556
@aat556 Год назад
My take is, if you can handle it. He did mention somewhere in the video that “you won’t be able to train to failure all the time” or something like that, I think. My wild guess is, i’d have at least one set per workout where I train to failure, and other sets training to 1 RIR (to *true* failure, not a grinding rep) After watching this video, it feels like a more logical idea to have my failure set in the first set so I can correctly gauge how many reps I can start my true 1 RIR at. If my failure set is only the last set, I might have missed so many potential growth-inducing reps prior to it. Might consider trying this.
@salmon8765
@salmon8765 Год назад
@@aat556 , thank you for your comment. I will try your approach during my next training. 💪
@aat556
@aat556 Год назад
@@salmon8765 peace brother and keep them gains coming!
@s.wilson5675
@s.wilson5675 Год назад
Exceptionally well explained guys. 👍
@krzysiekj2522
@krzysiekj2522 Год назад
nice podcast with 3 hosts (Jessie got sooo big over the years. amazing progress)
@rrisky18
@rrisky18 Год назад
This video is so true, in my experience to truly go to failure it needs to be force fed to you, it’s hard to learn on your own u need a partner to make you do those extra reps, that’s how u really learn going to failure, most can’t take the pain. Great video👍😃🏋️‍♀️💪🇺🇸
@enlilannunaki9064
@enlilannunaki9064 Год назад
Maybe I’m not typical but I admire people who are trying to improve themselves regardless of where they are at currently in the journey. The skinny guy at the gym struggling with relatively light weight, working hard-I applaud you. Seeing the morbidly obese person walking down the road sweating-I applaud you. I give them a thumbs up if they make eye contact. The strength and beauty of the human spirit is in the ATTEMPT and EFFORT, not the result.
@AGodHimself
@AGodHimself Год назад
Absolutely amazing video!
@anaeht1
@anaeht1 3 месяца назад
Great video. Lots of good info, thank you. How often should we do this though?
@Kiki-du2bo
@Kiki-du2bo Год назад
I was hoping for Athlean-x to eventually delve into this subject in a detailed manner. I have to say Jeff never disappoints.
@fogpivvl8341
@fogpivvl8341 Год назад
Jeff I've got a question nobody ever mentions when talking about training to failure that feels like a dumb question, but I really want to know when you talk about taking a set to failure or very close to failure for optimal results, should that be every set you do or just the last one or two of that exercise? Of course ignoring warm up sets for any heavy lifts.
@dylanlee5342
@dylanlee5342 Год назад
Probably for the last set. Cus if doing your weight set that makes you really tired for each set it might cause some issues or strain. So like if you can lift 30 pounds easy each set and get tired for the last set, then it should be good. But each body is different and if have any joint issues it also makes it difficult to know
@amirmatani8666
@amirmatani8666 9 месяцев назад
i take most my sets to failure, as long as i rest enough between sets it goes fine, but idk about the science behind it.
@amarok5048
@amarok5048 Год назад
Excellent! And well explained!
@bullsfan3705
@bullsfan3705 10 месяцев назад
Great advice. Thank you!
@chaseweeks2708
@chaseweeks2708 Год назад
This is what I love about drop-sets when it's easy to do so, especially squats. I leave the 45s on the rack and load up the bar with all of the smallest weights up to my target weight. 1 or 2 sets at that weight, then start losing a set of plates every time I hit a grinding rep and jump right back in. Fail to fail to fail to fail again until the bar is too heavy.
@eatherquake8107
@eatherquake8107 9 месяцев назад
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🏋️‍♂️ Understanding training to failure is crucial for effective lifting results. 00:34 💪 Training to failure context varies based on goals (strength or hypertrophy). 01:13 🏋️‍♂️ Different ways to define failure: form, mechanical, isometric, eccentric. 02:53 📚 Accurate failure definition is crucial for muscle growth assessment. 05:52 💪 Rapid fatigue onset in lower rep ranges accelerates failure. 06:48 🏋️‍♂️ Moderate rep sets allow controlled grinding and additional reps. 08:07 💡 Being a few reps shy of failure doesn't deliver optimal results. 10:00 💪 Beginners and those using lighter weights should embrace grinding. 11:12 🏋️‍♂️ Pull exercises offer more momentum opportunities for grinding. 12:21 🏋️‍♂️ Push exercises involve less momentum and quicker fatigue. 14:13 📊 Spacing between reps indicates effort level and true failure. 15:07 📝 Properly defining failure is crucial for effective training results. Made with HARPA AI
@Mr.Altavoz
@Mr.Altavoz 9 месяцев назад
Great video, as always
@kentuckywaves
@kentuckywaves 9 месяцев назад
Damn Jesse you’re a beast! Wish I had a back and arms like that! 💪 keep it up!!
@Ladymusicc
@Ladymusicc Год назад
I was so afraid I was training for hypertrophy all wrong. Like I'm not supposed to go to muscle failure!?!? This got me for a second.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 Год назад
Classic clickbait. But the content is solid
@headgames3115
@headgames3115 Год назад
The research he mentioned suggests the cortisol released from an absolute failure rep can counteract any gains from that rep. That rep also increases chance for injury.
@Ladymusicc
@Ladymusicc Год назад
@@shredd5705 always. Definitely.
@Ladymusicc
@Ladymusicc Год назад
@@headgames3115 yeah. Agreed. If I feel like I can't do a rep successfully, I know it's time to quit. Not worth risking an injury.
@CranialExtractor
@CranialExtractor Год назад
Jeff I lost 70lbs and you are honestly to thank for it. Your videos on your diet and consistency. I was consistent with working out and eating for last 8 months. God bless you and Jesse
@bowlcutnationalist5865
@bowlcutnationalist5865 Год назад
Keep it up my man. In a while you will be happy to increase weight as it means more muscle, instead of just more fat. Don't lose focus on your dreams and vision of what you want yourself to be.
@darioinfini
@darioinfini Год назад
I lost 40 because of this man, and put about 20 of mean form back on. Still working towards my goal 3+ years later.
@freeimproviser4303
@freeimproviser4303 3 месяца назад
SUCH A HELPFUL VIDEO
@jingluo7836
@jingluo7836 9 месяцев назад
wow Jessey! How his physics changed in a matter of years. thumbs up
@herotastic1496
@herotastic1496 Год назад
Jeff do you know if soft muscles are result of overtraining or at least inadequate recovery?
@ravenruppie96
@ravenruppie96 Год назад
Muscle will be soft when at rest and hard at flex or contraction. That's normal. Unless you mean something else
@MattR8605
@MattR8605 Год назад
@@ravenruppie96 I’m assuming they mean they aren’t hard enough while flexing
@freedomrings1420
@freedomrings1420 Год назад
Jeff doesn't answer questions. LOL 😂
@freetrollings142
@freetrollings142 Год назад
@@freedomrings1420 Just like you don't even lift but drink your own milk all day. LOL 😂
@paladindanse98
@paladindanse98 Год назад
If you cannot repeat the same level of performance week to week them you’re not recovered
@shreddedmama2712
@shreddedmama2712 Год назад
Thanks this was very helpful. Ima grind harder now
@thisisthestar17
@thisisthestar17 Год назад
Excellent information. Top notch video 👍👍👍
@TylerF33
@TylerF33 11 месяцев назад
My question is, as a beginner, how many sets would you do to failure with one given exercise in the same workout? The Mike Mentzer method of one (maybe a shorter warm up set or two beforehand?)? 2 or 3?
@chrismarcel7
@chrismarcel7 9 месяцев назад
In some excercises you need more warm up sets than others, lets say from 1 to 4.. then you must perform THE SET (the one that you should take into failure and makes you grow.). Im 53 and been weight training since i was 17.
@b-rare
@b-rare Год назад
The gains are in the two last reps that you can’t do. I remember training with my uncle and those last two that in your head you can’t do but you do them anyways, that’s where all the growth is. 100%
@JesusRodriguez-fo2br
@JesusRodriguez-fo2br Год назад
Good infor for those iust starting off in the gym or for those trying develop their muscle shape that have more experience training
@gsica2097
@gsica2097 Год назад
Priceless advice
@bonperal
@bonperal Год назад
Great video. I'm 69 and training for my 70th...correct me if I'm wrong but when training to failure at my age one has to consider the impact on joint and ligament health. In fact, I'm beginning to think that as we age we have to take advantage of different techniques in our training and pay extra close attention to rest/recovery. I love the phrase "me against me."
@stephengreen3367
@stephengreen3367 Год назад
I think you're right. I'm 67 and only started lifting a few weeks ago, though I did use to do it when I was younger. While I'm trying to push myself as hard as I can I'm always keeping a little back through fear of injury that could put me out of action for weeks. You also take a hell of a lot longer to recover as you age than you did when you were young. Bottom line is, you can't apply the same rule to guys in their 20s and guys in their 60s.
@bonperal
@bonperal Год назад
@@stephengreen3367 I started lifting about 5 years ago...one of first challenges was figuring out the difference between "bad pain" and "good pain." Ask me about my shoulder injury. ;^)
@allfusionx
@allfusionx Год назад
You know our hearts get broken when you skip a week of video 💔. Hope you are doing well and it was just a well deserved break
@alexandremasson7916
@alexandremasson7916 Год назад
Very helpful thanks 💪🏻
@samuelray8582
@samuelray8582 Год назад
Im entering my day 3 on lifting weights and cardio, im having trouble controlling the fatigue, sometime i just stopped because the dizziness got worse, but im working on it as i go along with my new fitness path
@Dtp2296
@Dtp2296 Год назад
Take longer rest between sets, 3 minutes for heavy, 2 for high reps. If you need an extra 30 seconds take it. Don't do 2 days i a row as a begginer. 3 days a week plenty till training for 6 months
@Ryan_Galka
@Ryan_Galka Год назад
Jeff, are there any benefits or reasons to train low, mid, and high rep sets on the same workout? Please advise. Thank you
@joevandamm
@joevandamm Год назад
Excellent video as always by the guys. Just a little warning to those who are going to train to failure more, be ready for a lot of muscle sorness. Make sure to allow extra time for recovery before hitting the same muscles again. But you probably already knew that, cause were all pros from listening to Jeff and Jess.
@natewilson7664
@natewilson7664 Год назад
Great point
@terrodar19
@terrodar19 Год назад
This right here is a CRUCIAL video. excellent guys!
@mbusotwala5765
@mbusotwala5765 Год назад
Now I understand thanks Jeff
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