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Training too many styles: The art of Fighting is one thing, not a composite of distilled systems 

Ramsey Dewey
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Can you train in too many fighting styles?
Q&A with the coach. If you have questions for the next episode of Q&A with the coach, leave them in the comments below!
Shanghai based MMA coach and Kunlun Fight ringside commentator Ramsey Dewey answers questions from the viewers.
Fighting in its purest form is not an amalgamation of different fighting styles. Rather, fighting styles are a bastardization of pure fighting.

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@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
Got questions for the next Q&A? Leave them in the comments below!
@minhducnguyen674
@minhducnguyen674 4 года назад
Hi coach Ramsey, I'm just getting into mma for 8 months and I have a goal to take part in an amateur fight in the future. However I'm already 24 years old and I weigh around 67 kg. I'm afraid when I get to such fights I will have to compete against kids who started at 16. Would you consider this a big problem?
@orionfollett7056
@orionfollett7056 4 года назад
How do amateur mma fights differ from the ufc fights we see on tv?
@minhducnguyen674
@minhducnguyen674 4 года назад
@@orionfollett7056 I would say the skill pool is not as big and refined and you are more likely to lose due to weaker cardio than skill
@minhducnguyen674
@minhducnguyen674 4 года назад
To clarify my question, I heard that the lighter your weight class is the younger you need to start training. And the only training I have before mma is 5 years of weight lifting
@sbscott84
@sbscott84 4 года назад
Hey coach, I just started doing BJJ a few weeks ago and I have some free private lessons from the gym when I signed up. I want to use these as I am pretty overwhelmed by all this and I dont have a good grasp on what I am doing, and want to get some semblance of understanding. Would it be a good idea to use this now? or would it be better to wait until I have a better idea of what questions to ask first?
@nimbusxd91
@nimbusxd91 4 года назад
Boxing looks simple to the untrained eye boxing is pretty complex especially learning footwork
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
True
@ferdonandebull
@ferdonandebull 4 года назад
I was never good at it... boxers are something else...
@TelowVaughnMusic
@TelowVaughnMusic 4 года назад
Simple to the untrained eye complex to the trainee and simple again to the master
@IAmBeingSilenced
@IAmBeingSilenced 4 года назад
The sweet science . . .
@Sk0lzky
@Sk0lzky 4 года назад
Basics of footwork is fairly simple too, at least compared to combining it with the rest of stuff and using it tactically in a fight (probably true about most arts but boxing is something else, I still can't do it properly)
@anuspajamas6105
@anuspajamas6105 4 года назад
I disagree. I trained the art of walking, running, jumping, hand touchy, hand grippy, fisty hole and kicky kick. Multiple style means im more superior than all of you
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
Those are some truly badass styles!
@scarletskunkjob9842
@scarletskunkjob9842 3 года назад
Truely the great disciple of the mystical internal art of ‘fisty hole’.
@Psiberzerker
@Psiberzerker 3 года назад
Yes, but my kickety Mckickface is far superior.
@matsuwd-emethdaath4002
@matsuwd-emethdaath4002 2 года назад
I throw in my hidden " tickle tummy tackle" technique on my training partners...they never see it coming
@blurp6023
@blurp6023 2 года назад
@@matsuwd-emethdaath4002 all fun and games till you learn about the motor boat escape while north south.....
@Vennotius
@Vennotius 4 года назад
Hitting my opponent with a spinning hook kick is my preferred method of escaping being pinned on the ground.
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
Are you a wizard?
@Vennotius
@Vennotius 4 года назад
I didn't say it works, just that I prefer it.
@gabrielandradeferraz386
@gabrielandradeferraz386 4 года назад
"There is no such thing as martial arts... only the art of fighting."- Some old man at a temple or something, at some point in time.
@RobinMcBeth
@RobinMcBeth 4 года назад
Liked and added to favourites. I think this is your most important, if not best video.
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
Thanks
@RobinMcBeth
@RobinMcBeth 4 года назад
@@RamseyDewey No. Thank you. Now back to Ramsey Dewey, coming to you live from Shanghai, China.
@Panagiotis1709
@Panagiotis1709 4 года назад
Could you show how to do the Dempsey roll and explain how and if it can be used in MMA?
@Tanishqkanojia1163
@Tanishqkanojia1163 4 года назад
1st step : launch jet engine sounds behind you
@Panagiotis1709
@Panagiotis1709 4 года назад
@@Tanishqkanojia1163 I already got that part :D
@Tanishqkanojia1163
@Tanishqkanojia1163 4 года назад
@@Panagiotis1709 hehe nice
@Tanishqkanojia1163
@Tanishqkanojia1163 4 года назад
But the second step : loop in an infinite loop at jet speed
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 4 года назад
I talk about this same Topic when discussing the Martial Arts & Fighting. It's meant for Lethal Competition. Skillful @ Fighting is a good description. Train as a basis for matters in @ least some Martial Art so that there are the Fundamentals. Keep adding tools to the toolbox. Expand your Mind and self-actualize. Don't be limited by "Sport" but understand the totality.
@bigal1100
@bigal1100 4 года назад
It really is just that simple.
@imawarrior313
@imawarrior313 4 года назад
A very beautiful, versatile yet one answer. Thank you Optimus Prime! 🙏🏼❤️
@DaSecurityGuard
@DaSecurityGuard 2 года назад
Actually funnily enough raw sugar is refined into white sugar removing the molasses which is then added back to make brown sugar
@nemesisshadowlord2026
@nemesisshadowlord2026 4 года назад
Do you watch what you eat as a fighter. I love your channel 👍.
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
When I was fighting professionally, I didn’t have much money and couldn’t afford much food. I watched what I ate quickly disappear and had hunger for dinner on a regular basis. Now, if you’ve got disposable income, then of course you need to be disciplined about what you eat. Stick to Whole Foods, avoid garbage.
@nemesisshadowlord2026
@nemesisshadowlord2026 4 года назад
@@RamseyDewey thank you for your reply keep up the awesome work on you channel 👌.
@FredKuneDo
@FredKuneDo 4 года назад
In "real life" you also may not want to get a fight end on the ground rolling around with someone and waiting for some Referee to quit the fight for submission. Even MMA is a sport, not the "reality".
@uaespetsnaz2391
@uaespetsnaz2391 4 года назад
In a real fight,a guy might pull a weapon on you.I personally like to train for the sake of training and not preparing for the streeeeetz
@FredKuneDo
@FredKuneDo 4 года назад
Right. Same here. I just do not like this "MMA is more realistic"-talk, because it allows more. It is still a combat sport with restrictions and rules and not a "real fight". And like every combat sport, it makes you do things, you really want to avoid in a "real fight" or "self defense".
@cahallo5964
@cahallo5964 4 года назад
I still want mma with soccer kicks and strikes to the spine
@m5a1stuart83
@m5a1stuart83 4 года назад
There was one guy in my country that kill 2 Punk armed with Sickles with his bare hand. He trained under Silat Jokotole, kill 2 armed guy but I dont think he will survive in MMA Fight.
@StyleTime
@StyleTime 4 года назад
@@cahallo5964 OneFC and Rizin allow soccer kicks. The old UFC's used to allow strikes to the spine before having to "clean up" for mainstream appeal.
@johanjonsson6504
@johanjonsson6504 4 года назад
Hey, Ramsey! Could you make video on basic speedbag drills for beginners? :)
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0rpiex5vbzY.html
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
Learn these movements first, then I can give you some drills.
@restistance4387
@restistance4387 4 года назад
My problem is for the last ten years.i have been so overwhelm by youtube channels like this one .and many others and i want to learn it all from different coaches.theres just to must information now a days.my heads about to explode.if you have OCD dont tr
@kez_the_reaper2657
@kez_the_reaper2657 4 года назад
Can't wait for a video on the speed bag :)
@Mbstr1
@Mbstr1 4 года назад
"Watch an mma fight" *Proceeds to watch Yoel Romero vs Israel Adesanya* Alright coach, now I know how to fight!
@bestable1
@bestable1 4 года назад
Well said
@OmegaDonut
@OmegaDonut 2 года назад
would it be ok to do muay Thai for 6 months then add in jiu jutsu as well? I have a background in wrestling already so I think I'd be well versed in jiu jutsu as well, currently just starting in Muay Thai so I'm obviously going to give it some time.
@eduardoperi9897
@eduardoperi9897 4 года назад
hey ramsey, you made a questionnaire about what fight scenes you should review in the ficticional fights videos you've made, are you still gonna do that or have you decided to drop the series
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
Yep. I’m still going to do it. I’ll be traveling without internet access for a while though, so I’m not sure when.
@terencejeffries5359
@terencejeffries5359 2 года назад
how do? my mom always said the more the merrier and variety is the spice of life. turning out 250 kgs dirty duck water, carrying 45 kgs of shopping 2.5 blocks 3x 5 days a week, little league, cricket wicketkeeping, soccer fullback and goalie, judo green belt, builders laborer, welder plus 215 kgs lift every 2 days, dockerman flipping 18 ft 9'',10'',11''and 12''x2''s all day and year long, sleeper cutter all manual lift 260 per month, landing man 1000t. plus saw per week for strength and conditioning certainly helped against the yobbo's. taztez.
@maduroholdings
@maduroholdings 2 года назад
Great ideas there are hundred ways you could answer this question I wonder how and what you would say if you answered this same question today without thinking about what you said today. For example I could talk about a few fighters who were so good at one thjng tbey were damn near u defeated one tall guy was a knee specialist Another guy was a round kick specialist Another guy super foot Wallace fought from the side with three kicks and three punched with just one leg That whole more afraid of a guy who throws one technique 10,000 times then a guy who knows ten thousand tech iquws
@bingsoo9559
@bingsoo9559 4 года назад
Coach Ramsey can you explain Mayweather-esque pitter-patter boxing bag work I think it has some use But I can’t really find it
@relativisticvel
@relativisticvel 2 года назад
Sorghum doesn’t come from beets. It is a different plant.
@shattereddnb3268
@shattereddnb3268 4 года назад
So, what you´re really trying to say with this video is... the streets isn´t lava?
@pastequeman
@pastequeman 4 года назад
What do you think of Sumo?
@thrownswordpommel7393
@thrownswordpommel7393 4 года назад
Hey Ramsey, got a question for you . I'm a 17 yo male, in decent shape and I recently started doing MMA and Muay Thai. I train three times Muay Thai every week and twice in MMA ( with one hour training sessions), and I've had many of my relatives tell me that it's too much and that I'm going to get hurt in the long run. Is it really ? Should I train less often ? Thanks for your answer
@fillorkillorder
@fillorkillorder 4 года назад
Train more, focus on technique, i train 3-4 hours a day, eat well and rest well, always stretch and keep the sparring light, avoid compound lifting the same muscle groups two days in a row, now get out there and train!
@gitman3486
@gitman3486 4 года назад
Depends how you train. If you're training full contact striking that entire time you'll accumulate a lot of damage but if you're mostly going light and only occasionally going heavy contact to keep you grounded in reality then you're probably fine
@deadrussianliberal2897
@deadrussianliberal2897 4 года назад
Hi
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
Howdy.
@deadrussianliberal2897
@deadrussianliberal2897 4 года назад
Ramsey Dewey I’m fine, thanks. I hope you are, too. Good points, as always.
@ShinFahima
@ShinFahima 4 года назад
Glad other people see the value of a good and easy "Howdy" xD
@flamezombie1
@flamezombie1 4 года назад
The Italian fighting master Fiore de'i Liberi in 1409 advised that you "not stay in them (stances) for too long, due to the rapid changes which take place during grappling" Even 611 years ago we knew that stances were methods for taking 'snapshots' of a fight - it's not something meant to be maintained! A real fight is different than the still images that Fiore and Talhoffer and other traditional arts use to demonstrate 'parts' of a fight, and these old masters knew that! They're definitely useful but you need to understand what Fiore did - they aren't replacements for real sparring.
@flamezombie1
@flamezombie1 4 года назад
As for a Q&A, I would love to see your takes on some Historical European Martial Art (HEMA) grappling. Fiore, Niccolaes Petter, and Ringeck come to mind. You can find all of their treatises (that we have anyways) for free on Wiktenauer. A lot of them are surprisingly similar to Judo and other eastern martial arts systems, even though they developed entirely independently (Fiore shows some figure four wrist locks with daggers!) I'd like to see what you think does and doesn't work from the old masters.
@rebeccarea479
@rebeccarea479 3 года назад
I think if you express one art , you will know more than learning 5 arts.
@itsmrfire2512
@itsmrfire2512 4 года назад
Are you zenci
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
What?
@calvinchen928
@calvinchen928 4 года назад
I heard that 80 percent of all individual martial arts are useless in a MMA or no rules setting
@geoffreyfletcher6976
@geoffreyfletcher6976 4 года назад
A bit contradictory, as MMA has plenty of rules.
@InkThinks
@InkThinks 4 года назад
This philosophy is straight up how Uncle Iroh invented redirecting lightning
@snatchX626
@snatchX626 3 года назад
ah, a man of culture
@yuritrasimaco5201
@yuritrasimaco5201 2 года назад
Wholesome references enter the game
@sergeantonionzindros-luu2366
@sergeantonionzindros-luu2366 6 месяцев назад
Bruce lee type shii
@ShinFahima
@ShinFahima 4 года назад
I love this answer. Often times, it feels like people don't see it as the end result: Fighting. But they prefer to hear about certifications from multiple 'schools' as if the individual doesn't matter, and that fights are like a fighting game where everything is nothing but rigid stances and poses.
@fredflinsten449
@fredflinsten449 4 года назад
Henry Cejudo mentioned it in JRE podcast that after he decided he wanted to pursuit MMA, he basically focused most of his technical training on MMA as a whole rather than each martial art separately. MMA is its own sport after all.
@turbopowergt
@turbopowergt Год назад
Once rules get established a single style will inevitably emerge. MMA will probably break down into a handful of camps, similar to boxing where you can see the influences of their coaches. Different styles of footwork, favored combinations, and approaches to grappling.
@tranquil_dude
@tranquil_dude 3 года назад
The idea of wanting to "clearly see" a particular style used in a fight is, when you think about it, actually illogical. In combat, don't we want to make our techniques subtle so as to minimize the opponent's chances of reading and countering our moves? That means the more efficient a fighter is at using a "high-level" technique during a fight, the less obvious/flashy it will look to outside observers. Ironically, that also means that when traditional martial arts practitioners effectively use their skills in a fight, they sometimes get boo-ed for not "showing the style" of their art. Which is ridiculous.
@saparapatepete
@saparapatepete Год назад
Some martial arts fandom can be weird. Instead of seeking what works they focus on what they want to work.
@jaylon.713
@jaylon.713 4 года назад
The reason I think a lot of people come up with the assumption that training in many types of martial arts will automatically make you a better fighter is because most of us have been told that through various MMA platforms. Most MMA fighters and commentators often mention the fighter’s vast background in order to sell how versatile and great the fighter is. We as the audience don’t know any better because we haven’t really heard otherwise.
@PHDInSevereInternetRetardation
@PHDInSevereInternetRetardation 4 года назад
I'm the person who asked the question, this is exactly what I was wondering. Looking back at it now I wish I worded it better.
@jaylon.713
@jaylon.713 4 года назад
Dark Collective It was a great question because I had assumed the same thing. It wasn’t until he answered your question that I was able to think about the reasoning behind it
@snatchX626
@snatchX626 4 года назад
what reminded me that ramsey dewey is half British: how he pronounces "vitamins"
@perrenchan6600
@perrenchan6600 4 года назад
Second comment coz this video is so good, I learned wing chun and after learning kickboxing i still use wing chun but just like you said, within the moments where its applicable such as building a frame in clinch or maybe using a more creative block. Wing Chun for me is actually just a drill curriculum that should be learnt in Kick boxing you know? That's how i Incorporated my Wing Chun, not as a separate style but just another drill or curriculum within the training of kick boxing
@oscarpearson3903
@oscarpearson3903 4 года назад
I mean if you look at GSP, he’s not the best puncher or striker (otherwise he’d have done pro-boxing or Muay Thai or something), he’s not the best grappler (there’s footage of Roger Gracie beating him even though he put up a good game when they rolled) but if you put them all together under a set of rules which allows all of it he becomes a champion! So my take is you can have your own way to become the best in MMA without being the best and training in every specific area, but you’ve got to be able to deal with every specific area your opponent will attack you from and have a good way to beat your opponent.
@ddg-fi5bp
@ddg-fi5bp 4 года назад
GSP might not be the best, but he is very high level. Gordon Ryan says he’s the hardest guy to sumi gaeshi.
@halterrill9475
@halterrill9475 4 года назад
I think GSP made everyone realize what true fighting looks like
@KentPetersonmoney
@KentPetersonmoney 4 года назад
I agree
@eddard9442
@eddard9442 4 года назад
"The hand is swifter than the eye" - George Silver, English Sword Master, 1599 AD
@m5a1stuart83
@m5a1stuart83 4 года назад
Sharingan? 😳
@flamezombie1
@flamezombie1 4 года назад
Even Fiore, almost 200 years earlier in 1409, said about stances that you "not wait in them too long, due to the rapid changes that take place during grappling."
@mafiamole
@mafiamole 4 года назад
I don't see anything that reliably says he was a Sword Master. From what I have read, they would of considered him a Master of Defence if he was a Master. of anything Not to say his work was not important, as it gives an insight how sword fighting was perceived and performed in England at the time. That and his biases against the Italian forms.
@eddard9442
@eddard9442 4 года назад
@@mafiamole well he is certainly my Master :)
@mcpartridgeboy
@mcpartridgeboy 4 года назад
When i was young i bhelieved the idiot myth that boxing was inferior to martial arts, now i realize its much better than most, since all that talking is replaced by punching the hell out of each other, in my opinion fighting is more effective for fighting than talking about a fight, i was such a snobish idiot it makes me cringe, your the one who convinced me muhamid ali would beat bruce lee.
@vonb2792
@vonb2792 3 года назад
it get you fit in the process, so the other styles and any other sport or life obstacle becomes easier to do
@sensam6155
@sensam6155 3 года назад
HOW you teach techniques is often more important than the techniques you're teaching. Karate has a vast compendium of techniques that, if mastered, could be employed against a master boxer very effectively. However, few Karate dojos teach in ways that allow for the proper deployment of their techniques in the context of a live fight; whereas nearly all boxing gyms spend more time letting you practice actually using techniques in live sparring/fighting. The Muay Thai gym I attend hosts a Karate Sensei who teaches his own students there twice per week. After a Muay Thai class I once stuck around to watch a Karate class because I thought there was so much I could learn. After the first THIRTY MINUTES all they had done was meditate, talk, listen to the sensei talking, then practice shadow boxing one specific technique in a fashion that was SO ultra robotic and so over-the-top-fast that i couldn't imagine them every pulling it off in sparring they way they had practiced it. The technique was valid, but they were just doing it at hyper speed with a rigid stance that allowed no mobility, and they never tried it with each other. I feel like if they taught the same stuff, but the way my coaches teach it, they could be much better fighters.
@JosephKerr27
@JosephKerr27 4 года назад
I think we are of the same mind here. All schools point toward the same goal. I get the sense that some people believe learning new philosophies will change their perception. Possibly, but you need to be able to think for yourself first. Whatever gets you to that point of seeing the truth through your own eyes, not someone else's.
@inyalgaico1563
@inyalgaico1563 4 года назад
Not everyone can be batman
@scooterpower59
@scooterpower59 4 года назад
Punch professor is a good recommendation for the physical, technical, and spiritual. I appreciated your direction to that site. God Bless you and thank you Coach.
@89334726
@89334726 4 года назад
So basically fighting is an apple/cherry etc tree, that needs a solid trunk, but also branches to bear fruit? Even, If the "trunk" is mma?
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
Interesting analogy
@williamjohnson476
@williamjohnson476 4 года назад
Does that make "real world" violence the roots?
@89334726
@89334726 4 года назад
@@williamjohnson476 No, the violence are the maggots, that attack the fruits making the tree look ugly to casual observer possibly making him to cut down the whole tree in his ignorance. The roots are the values and reasons one has to learn and keep on growing. Getting waaaaay too deep thinking here, but I also think competition, like UFC is the wind, that removes weaker branches, but If the trunk is strong makes the tree stronger. This last one might get me into trouble, but people sensei Ramsey are bees, taking a little from tree, by making us drill things we find in our lack of knowledge pointless, but also spreading the seed through internet in hope making some little trees pop up through the Globe. No, I wasn't under the influence of mind altering chems while typing.
@nickwilliams8302
@nickwilliams8302 4 года назад
The best analogy I've heard on the subject is this. The techniques are the tools; the delivery system is the toolbox. If you give a craftsman a new tool, he'll know where it belongs in his toolbox. Give him a Phillips head screwdriver and he'll go, "Ah yes, this goes with the other Phillips head screwdrivers, between the one that's bigger and the one that's smaller." or, "Ah yes, this will replace this particular size screwdriver that I already have because it's better." or, "Nice screwdriver bro, but I've got a Phillips head in the same size that works better for me." * Or you can give the same screwdriver to a non-craftsman and he'll go, "Thanks bro!" then put it away some place he'll promptly forget. Learn how to fight first (the delivery system; the toolbox), only then go chasing after weird esoteric tools to put in it. * Related to this, you will not find a craftsman who organises his tools by colour or age or brand or by the store they were bought in. They all organise their tools into types, then by size. Similarly, all effective fighters have some similarities (effective punching is going to look a lot like boxing, effective groundwork is going to look a lot like BJJ etc.).
@mxbblife_mu
@mxbblife_mu 4 года назад
Hey Master Dewey...What's up ?! Another Wrestling question, well more of a Request... Please tell a story of a time when a Wrestler came to a Gym you were at and Dominated everyone, making them question their own fighting skills. I LOVE Stories like that.. Thanks.
@uaespetsnaz2391
@uaespetsnaz2391 4 года назад
Wouldn’t mind watching that
@JdawgMMAblog
@JdawgMMAblog 4 года назад
I usually tell people the 4 foundations of MMA should be boxing, Muay That, BJJ, and Wrestling. But understand that each system has some movement that work for real fighting or MMA but some of the moves in each system are not good at all for MMA but specific for that sport. And those move that don’t apply to MMA are still important to learn at least a little, because you may come across it during a match and then you’ll have an idea of what to do.
@adamsmith577
@adamsmith577 5 месяцев назад
That's how I feel about deep half guard. I wouldn't use it for mma/self defense, but I have had scrambles where I end up there and it's nice to know what to do on those rare occasions.
@bemusedalligator
@bemusedalligator 4 года назад
How fast can you "black belt level skill" (expertise in a particular art) in a perfect environment? I was laughing at an "elite camp" ad that promises a black belt in karate in less than 6 months for a mere $2000 donation, but it got me actually thinking about this question. If you have an actual camp, where you work out, train, and otherwise focus on nothing but learning your art for a length of time, how long would it take a beginner to get to that level of skill? My thought was a minimum around 24-30 months or so, but if you have thoughts I would enjoy them!
@cesaralvesdemoraes3187
@cesaralvesdemoraes3187 4 года назад
That would vary a lot from person to person. You can't guarantee any level of skill in a given amount of time if you don't know the person and their athletic background.
@cesaralvesdemoraes3187
@cesaralvesdemoraes3187 4 года назад
But in a wild guess I would say 1 year is the minimum amount of time, all conditions being favourable
@crabappleboy
@crabappleboy 4 года назад
I think the 10,000 hours to master a skill estimate is about accurate, but each of those hours have to be well spent. You can have been doing a combat sport for 10 years and still suck at it because you never put in serious time
@BigSlanko
@BigSlanko 4 года назад
What do they call it uhhh Uchi Deshi? I know some styles of karate had or do still offer this style of training which can elevate you to that rank expediently but as was said it will be a very very brutal period of time. I’d say 600-900 days would be sufficient, 600 days without time off and 900 with maybe one day off a week.
@bane3991
@bane3991 4 года назад
It depends mostly on how many hours you spend training. Through my experience and trying to gauge how long it took the black belts I know or people I know of to get to the skill they're at I would say in the range of 600-1,000hr range. With 600 being on the very least and 1,000 being the very most. So around 800hrs is a good sweet spot.
@gilgamesh310
@gilgamesh310 4 года назад
There are a number of MMA fights that can go several rounds with very little clinching. Cody Garbrandt seems to specialise in this. It’s fairly common in the welter weight category too. But I gather a lot of this is just done for points and to act as a spectacle for the audience. The older UFC fights had a lot more grappling.
@CombatSelfDefense
@CombatSelfDefense 4 года назад
The topic of this video is something I tell my students a lot - every martial art is based, at least somewhat, on reality. In my experience, the hand fighting/trapping techniques of Wing Chun are rarely useful in a striking context, but EXTREMELY useful in a stand up grappling scenario (Muay Thai clinch/Judo scenario.) Not a 1:1 transfer, but if you have a good understanding of grappling and wing chun, the principles are pretty transferable. Point is - everything is "real," but maybe not as real as martial artists want it to be.
@jj-wp6wc
@jj-wp6wc 3 года назад
I relate to this. For about ten years I trained about a year in a different style because i moved each year. I did Kali, TKD, Koei Kan Karate, Kenpo Karate, BJJ, Muy Thai, San Soo, etc. But it was tough because at times different styles had contradictory movements, (chin down hands up in boxing vs. head kinda high with hands low in karate). It was great to learn alot of diverse stuff, but in the last 8 years or so i finally stuck with three things: karate as my base, pad work/basic kickboxing, and no gi rolling. (Maybe I am still all over the place, could be the ADHD;)
@raphaellopez9290
@raphaellopez9290 2 года назад
Get good at one art 1st as a base, then you can study mix martial arts and train in other styles. The world's best Muay Thai Fighters trained in Boxing. I have Wing Chun and Muay Thai as my base and added Boxing, BJJ ,Teakwondo and created my own style.
@chrisswanson2378
@chrisswanson2378 4 года назад
Wonderful perspective, mine is complimentary. Even in one style you can be overwhelmed. Train bjj from the back or take downs, locks or chokes, minutia of the arm bar or dynamic of positional rolling. The age old question of training weak points or strengths will never go away. I look at my resources, gyms, partners, trainers, time. I look at what I want to address. I make a plan as to how these fit together with what I want out of training and go for it. Then periodically re-evaluate. This helped me get more skilled but more importantly, it kept me motivated.
@hailhydreigon2700
@hailhydreigon2700 4 года назад
Nothing new here, but I found that at a certain level, a lot of techniques from the arts I like overlap; especially at the basics. Then it just becomes about learning the little nuances that makes that specific style its own. For example, if you're good at Judo or BJJ, you probably already know most of the repetoire in Loose-Grip Glima. The only difference would be the victory condition: No pins or submissions in Glima; to win you need to be standing with the opponent on the floor. With 0 physical contact. If your opponent has a single hand touching you, the fight keeps going. Same throws, same ground work and positions, just... used differently.
@willdgol7501
@willdgol7501 4 года назад
Mr. Dewey this is a question of the utmost importance Should a Jedi rely so heavily on a lightsaber or whoud it be more beneficial for them to master all aspects of combat as they do the lightsaber
@Zapinator321
@Zapinator321 4 года назад
True fighting is Master Ken's Ameridote philosophy
@leftypantaridis5195
@leftypantaridis5195 4 года назад
Great video 👍 I hadn’t seen many people ask this, but what are some drills or things I could do to improve foot work. I have a skill ladder and I use that for about 45 minutes doing different movements and patterns to become lighter on my feet. I’m 5’11, 16 years old, and weigh 140 flat. And i am going to become an MMA fighter in the future, and have been training in Muay Thai for probably 8 months now with some American boxing mixed in between (just the very basics of it) but I still find that I have trouble with the positioning of my feet.
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
Every striking technique has specific footwork that will allow you to set up and land your strikes. If you want to improve your footwork learn the techniques you intend with their proper footwork rather than striking out of context.
@leftypantaridis5195
@leftypantaridis5195 4 года назад
Thanks coach, I’ll keep that in mind for tomorrow’s training 💪🏼
@glennnolasco2475
@glennnolasco2475 4 года назад
Tell me I'm not the only one who saw coach Ramsey Dewey with hair plus the moustache in his Instagram. Looks cool, bring back the 'stache please
@mrmoth26
@mrmoth26 2 года назад
"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" -Karl Marx Does this have anything to do with the video? Absolutely not.
@GuitarsRockForever
@GuitarsRockForever 4 года назад
Great answer. Fighting is fighting, style is just artificial subset of fighting. The entire style thing should really go away.
@MrRobenson2009
@MrRobenson2009 3 года назад
Ramsey, thank you for your channel! I've had great admiration for MMA even though I'm truly a TMA practicioner: Wing Chun, and Kyokushin Karate. Now, I'm mostly focusing on Krav on the self defense side, and been doing a little boxing. I know nothing as far as grappling goes and being in my 40's I don't know if it makes sense learning it now. Based on my age, could it be too late to learn BJJ or Wrestling? Body's not what it used to be. P.S. The Krav school I attend is a good one with experienced ground and striking instructors. Just in case you throw a jab at it :-)
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rq8Lyjpf3ao.html
@Cynry
@Cynry 4 года назад
11:44 onward was a treat. Finally internal arts getting seen for what they are, this is so rare on youtube. No wonder it's coming from you though!
@Almosteasyese
@Almosteasyese 4 года назад
I think it was you who was asked about a base style. I figured a while ago the best. ," base ", could be mma. But that wasn't quite right. The true base, is just FIGHTING like you say.
@Narguhl
@Narguhl 4 года назад
At 18:10 it really looks like you are thinking about butts.
@d.g.205
@d.g.205 2 года назад
After watching this I'm not sure if my approach is wrong or right. I'd like to learn how to be competent in all areas of fighting. As you mentioned, Punching & Kicking, Clinch, Position & Footwork, Wresting, Framing & Hand Fighting, Takedowns, Breakfalls & Getups, Pins & Control, Grappling Offense & Defense. One thing Icy Mike said in a Hard2Hurt video that resonated with me was "You need to be really amazing at one specific thing, and good enough at everything else to funnel people to that." I've only just started BJJ(literally 2 classes) but my plan was to start by trying out BJJ & Muay Thai, eventually learning some Judo to bridge the two, then supplement Boxing into my Striking and Wrestling into my BJJ and expand on Ground Fighting & Takedown defense. Figure out what I'm best at in time and go from there in a year or two.
@ilaarokeP
@ilaarokeP 4 года назад
I really enjoyed the last half of this! Waiting eagerly for the old timer's speed bag patterns now.
@stacywallett
@stacywallett 3 года назад
Training too many modalities leaves you with a skill level that is 100 yards wide but only 1/4 inch deep.
@bombastikderteutone6858
@bombastikderteutone6858 2 года назад
This goes for most MMA Schools though
@ryanhudson1252
@ryanhudson1252 4 года назад
Why aren't there more schools that teach a fully integrated MMA system like the system Greg Jackson created? It seems like it's pretty hard to avoid taking 2 or 3 martial arts a la carte in order to be a well rounded fighter.
@bombastikderteutone6858
@bombastikderteutone6858 2 года назад
I would guess because it’s a relatively new sport But Greg Jackson’s system is not fail proof either Fighters of his have been defeated by Fighters with rather specialized abilities - keep that in mind
@firedude339
@firedude339 4 года назад
Ramsey, I thought youtube was blocked in china. Do you use a vpn?
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
Yep.
@artten5002
@artten5002 4 года назад
makes me think of what karate nerd said, when you see it, pause it or slow it down, you see traditional stances or movement in frames
@mcpartridgeboy
@mcpartridgeboy 4 года назад
I dont do mma so forgive my arogance, but im guesing an important part of mma is taking a good shot and keeping composed !
@KnjazNazrath
@KnjazNazrath 2 года назад
I've spent a few years per style on a few styles over my time in martial arts. This was because they gyms I went to closed down or I moved to a diff'rent area and didn't couldn't find a decent teacher in the styles I already knew. Nowadays I'm learnin' zui quan and I'm hoping to be able to find a decent Gracie teacher. People often laugh at me learnin' taiji and zui quan, but I learn styles I enjoy. Taiji is great for grounding yourself and as a warm up or warm down. Zui Quan is good for working your flexibility during some training and thinking outside the box. Even the worst styles can teach you something, but I've just never really been interested in Systema myself and I've never found a Capoeira fighter to help me w/ gymnastics.
@jasonstewartskungfustyles7106
I learnt 30 different styles but only 3 or 4 can keep good, different styles give different strengths. In comparison Jet li learnt 100, his troup could watch a routine 3 times and do it at a high level. Cross training is how records keep being broken. It's good to have one style but adding to that only helps. There's many ways to learn other styles.
@MonacoRocha
@MonacoRocha 2 года назад
Love Your Vids.. You're a very Interesting Man.. What is your Back Ground ( Russian) ?
@danielsterling4918
@danielsterling4918 5 месяцев назад
Alright so, after seeing a handful of your videos in the past and now this one, I've decided to add this channel to my ever-growing list of subscriptions lol This is **exactly** what the "martial arts" community needs to hear and get through their thick skulls. It's all about fighting as a whole rather than the singular puzzle piece, and sadly so many remain locked into that frame of thinking to their own detriment...
@IncredibleMD
@IncredibleMD 2 года назад
Maybe we shouldn't have been so quick to judge people for calling MMA "Ultimate Fighting" back in the early 2000s. MMA isn't a mixed martial art, it's a complete one. It's the ultimate (IE: final) form fighting takes, when all is said and done and you put all the various elements into one composite whole. It'd probably be a lot easier to explain that, than how MMA is A martial art, and why punching in MMA is different from punching in boxing. I remember one time, turning on my TV, and it was on the local sports channel, so there just happened to be two dudes in a boxing ring wearing boxing gloves having a match. I remember thinking, immediately, that it was odd just how far away from each other. But then, some 30 seconds later (it was still a pretty slow fight by the time I tuned in), my confusion vanished as one fighter threw a kick. Instantly, the range made sense, because I realized I wasn't watching boxing, I was watching kickboxing. And throwing a punch involves a lot more factors in kickboxing than in boxing.
@AMPFEAST
@AMPFEAST 4 года назад
the oblique kicks from savate look exactly like the tan gerk and bong gerk kicks from wing chun Silva used in MMA. but only Jones kicks work because they have a different style name attached to it? that´s just silly.
@gingercore69
@gingercore69 Год назад
Ive been doing martial arts for. Very long time but never too long for a single art... Ive tried bjj, sanda, ninjutsu, sipalki, karate, boxing, wushu, etc... And i found out that i like to crosstrain in similsr arts at the same time... Right now im doing sipalki, wushu nd ninjutsu at the same time... All 3 have grappling, striking and weapons... But wushu competes in sanda and pointstyle, sipalki competes in pointstyle and chaiuderyon(basically mma without low kicks or punches to the face(you can hit the top and sides of the head, just not the face) And ninjutsu has gotonpos(basically milsim airsoft but with swords and shurikens... You are technically allowed to strike and grapple but weapons make it harder to happen) and i find myself using the slight difference in those styles as an advantage in each others competitions...
@IncredibleMD
@IncredibleMD 2 года назад
The concept of BJJ always confused me a bit. Why would you take a well rounded grappling art like traditional Kodokan Judo (which, admitted, is already somewhat deficient in some areas of combat, though you can argue how useful those areas are on da streetz)... and then hyperfocus on learning the ground techniques? Sure, you might be better at RNCs and triangle chokes than someone who practices a more complete judo... but that judoka has a much wider range of abilities to use against you. Including all the ground fighting techniques that you've learned. Sure, he might not be as good at them as a totally specialized ground fighter, but... well, the judoka Kimura beat the BJJ player Gracie, and with a submission hold no less.
@thiagosouza2737
@thiagosouza2737 Год назад
I'm not knowlageble in MMA but this discussion makes me think about species evolutionary proccesses. Sometimes niche isolates some species individuals, which in time may diverge them apart so that they develop very specific survival strategies. If yu then bring them togher agan in another niche, is everything they develop good? No, is everything useless? Probably no. Martial arts are niches, you may bring somthing back to fighting that may help a lot, or maybe is something that won't work at all.
@alhuzayl6029
@alhuzayl6029 2 года назад
I prefer the "be more like water" concept because ALL martial arts are based upon THE SAME principles. I guess if a student can come to understand those principles they can adapt to whatever "system" they are involved with. What came first the chicken or the egg???
@harrisfrankou2368
@harrisfrankou2368 4 года назад
I have many blue belts green and purple... A few browns... Brown always comes back in fashion, I have 3 Blackbelts for Weddings and Funerals. I like to color coordinate my belts with my Clothes. I have a clothing line based on the GI, Ninjas and Samurai styles . I get so many looks when I go out, it's great.
@CP-uw4ts
@CP-uw4ts 3 года назад
Now my teacher only teaches Silat, hapkido, Muay Thai, and BJJ. But has black belts in karate, tae kwon do, kajukenbo, as well as experience in kendo along with everything I listed. But he applies everything he knows to the first 4 arts I listed, is that a good way of going about it?
@pacodc5037
@pacodc5037 4 года назад
It is possible make your own combanation or strieker and grappling ? Muay thay - bjj Kick boxing - judo Boxing - wrestling
@brandonpearman9218
@brandonpearman9218 2 года назад
yeah training for specifically what you need is good but if you do what everyone else is doing then you have to compete by being faster and strong... i dont want to play that game. If you can explore different techniques you might find something that gives you an advantage. BUT you have to understand how to translate that technique into something usable. I find that 99% of martial arts can not practically use their techniques. Not because the techniques are bad but because they do not have the fighting experience.
@felipearevalo6792
@felipearevalo6792 4 года назад
My apologies, but I did not understand complety the full answer, maybe due the fact I'm not english native speaker, but what you mean about train in the art of fighting?, I mean, every Martial art, from Traditional to more deportive, claim that teach how to fight. But is a fact thta I doubt about it. I have another question, my coach, he went to China to the Wudan temple, and when he returned is obsesed that we learn to make a very wide split and spagat, or open your legs to the front and back and the other to open your legs. I feel this kind of trainning like a torture and a i see no point in doing that, Is useful to know how to split, like Jean Claude Vandame, to fight, or is just another myth and a waste of time?, i'm worried because our coach told us if we denied that trainning, he wont let train with him anymore, and he doesn't charge us any payment for the classes, and right now, I dont have money to practice another Martial art, and due the pamdemy, I dont have money or a solid job, and I dont want to waste almost 15 years of trainning, but i'm lossing faith in TMA,but I really love Martial arts. Thanks your time Mr Dewey and have a good and blessed Day.
@nothenking4546
@nothenking4546 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OmCh9-3Ypgk.html this is the video you were talking about from the punching professor
@renehenriksen1735
@renehenriksen1735 3 года назад
And Master Wong trained everything he could think of for da streetz, even the subtle art of mad dogbite-jitzu and ended up being called Master Wrong allthough he didn´t die. What happened?
@RK-um2bj
@RK-um2bj 9 месяцев назад
I think the street fighters would save more face eating punches than hugging and praying, especially if they were runnin their mouths 😄
@manubishe
@manubishe 4 года назад
For anyone interested in sportsmanship, I recommend this little video, it has both skill and fighter's honour, as well as a choke I haven't seen mentioned anywhere ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d6k7QK-4VTM.html
@Chavdar25
@Chavdar25 3 года назад
The thing is if you start to learn another martial art , the level of first one it's going to slow down as long you don't keep training in that style. Some people try to learn two or three martial arts at the same time ,who are not related for example karate,wing chun and bjj ..The person will be in good shape but he will never be as good as the person who trains in a specific Martial art, because your every martial art has a way of training based in that martial art and practice makes the master, it will take you three times longer to achieve the level of one person who has trained one specific martial arts. It would different if you train related martial arts like three different styles of karate or training taekwondo itf and wtf ...
@egorex7735
@egorex7735 3 года назад
I like fighting under every ruleset everything has something but my style or my fighting stays the same (almost)
@backwoodskarate9300
@backwoodskarate9300 4 года назад
Really liked this video Ramsey. Was glad to hear you explain the difference between training in multiple different arts for a long period of time and mma of mixing all into one of the art of fighting. I also love it when you breakdown street fighting. I've never competed in competition in anything. Nor have I ever wanted to fight anybody in the streets. I have had to break up a few fights and only two people I've ever hurt in my life was only to protect me or my family and that's it. I will say really quickly finishing up here the last one where I had to run a drug addict off that person did try to clinch up so I stopped that after a few seconds of that by sweeping that persons legs from under them and getting on top them. Have a good day sir.
@regal7677
@regal7677 4 года назад
Wow, this guy just demystified this age old conversation brilliantly. This proves that when you think you know the most basic of things, there is yet so much more to know; and with such a simple explanation..
@AirLancer
@AirLancer 3 года назад
I hate the Art of Fighting, but I want to be The King of Fighters.
@EddyWoon
@EddyWoon 4 года назад
My Tai Ji instructor emphasised on the fundamentals of positioning, framing, grappling and also taught the fundamental strikes from Southern Pray Mantis. People with strong fundamental skills can be great dancers too as they have an in depth understanding of body mechanics.
@ramondiaz2851
@ramondiaz2851 4 года назад
Like that lava you use about thai boxing!! Concept!
@ciscokid1214
@ciscokid1214 4 года назад
Did't the guy who train mohamed ali in karate end it up being a fraud ?
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 4 года назад
George Dillman is a weird case. Today he is known as the wacky no-touch knock out guy. Back then, he was one of the most respected karate practitioners and tournament promoters in the US. My guess is when his legitimate fame dried up, he tried to stay relevant with gimmicks. Muhammad Ali was also awarded a black belt in taekwondo under Grandmaster Jhoon Rhee.
@ciscokid1214
@ciscokid1214 4 года назад
@@RamseyDewey oh i did't knew dillman was legit before the no touch thing
@ciscokid1214
@ciscokid1214 4 года назад
@@RamseyDewey the same happend to count dante he was a legit judo and karate black belt and promoter that happend alot in the 70s
@nathanwelsh2002
@nathanwelsh2002 3 года назад
can someone explain what he means by frames in boxing??
@Psiberzerker
@Psiberzerker 3 года назад
Studying too many styles? No. Training too many styles is impossible, at some point you have to sleep. You will burn out from Exhaustion before you train, really train in "Too many styles." Okay, I guess that's a yes. If you burn out from Exhaustion, in College, then you took too many classes. In MMA Cage fighting, a lot of let's say BJJ guys watch their opponents' (On the fight card) previous fights, in preparation of the coming fight. Ali did it, Foreman did it, Holyfield did it too. (I suspect Tyson as well.) Gracie did it, before he literally overthrew MMA. Pure BJJ fighters don't "Train" Muay Thai, but they Study it.
@Psiberzerker
@Psiberzerker 3 года назад
Martial arts nerds study obscure arts, because they're fascinating. If we find something useful, we might try it in "A real fight" to see how that works, but even if you got into martial arts, exclusively to become a better fighter, you're going to run into something obscure, think "That's cool!" and remember it. We can't really get past that, yes we're athletes, competitive, and some might even say badass fighters (Not me) but we're also NERDS. If we weren't, we wouldn't have studied ancient obscure ARTs from countries where we don't speak the language in the fist place. We'd probably be gun nerds instead.
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