Transgender people and the church: Preston Sprinkle & Christina Beardsley 

It most certainly was respectful. Preston obviously didn't agree on everything but remained an example to us all. Gender is obsolete and Trans People only reinforce old stereotypes, someday we will all be free to express ourselves WO the need for hormonal & surgical treatments.

LOL!!!

I’m sure they would appreciate that...

I'm not going to give love nor hate but I'mma be neutral 😐

@Javi G not really.... Btw idk what that means 😐 sorry.

@Javi G ah. Cool back atcha

Gross

So you refuse to touch women when they're menstruating?

I heard Preston refer to God's Word a number of times.

@Joel Tope Since the Bible is absolutely, measurably wrong on thousands of occasions, I'd suggest you stop exhibiting your ignorance.

Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

Pretty cut and dry.

@CCP BOT The Bible teaches that we should love even our enemies (Matthew 5:44), therefore our love for people isn’t conditional on whether they think or live the same as us. This doesn’t mean we agree with them or approve of everything they do, just that we love them. Keeping it respectful means critiquing ideas rather than attacking the person. (1 Peter 3:15, Colossians 4:6) A Christian Priest is an oxymoron, as the the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD and the only Priesthood that remains is the ‘Royal Priesthood’ of believers. (1 Peter 2:9) To be clear, I take a traditional view on this issue and it’s important to be honest about this. Yet we are commanded to speak ‘Truth in Love’ (Ephesians 4:15) So obedience in this regard requires us to be boldly honest and respectful/kind at the same time!

@CCP BOT That’s exactly my point

@CCP BOT nah she is female Gender doesn't refer to your genitals, that is biological sex. And that is a scientific fact, whether you want it or not Just deal with it

@@drizzly9936 That’s correct. Gender can be anything. If I like the color pink...dead puppies...and adult diapers, I can declare gender. It’s fun!

@@drizzly9936 stfu that's a man not a woman. Idiot.

But he is not a women ...

No Christian supports men identifying as woman. You don't know what beauty or Christianity is, clown

@@authsoc.3313 Where in the Bible does it say "though shalt not be transgender?"

@@danh4698 1 Corinthians 6:9

@@Mellownius there is a possibility that he or she is a woman. If your brains are feminine, you're a woman regardless what the rest of your body is. It's not impossible that something went wrong in the womb so that a person was born with a female brain yet the rest of the body male. I also think that there's a lot of confusion and therefore I'm not in favor of hormone treatment for children. I think we should find a way to determine the sex of brains; improved fMRI scans maybe as to distinguish mere confused people from real transgenders.

There’s only one TINY little problem with what you wrote above, Sir.☝️ There has never been, nor will there ever be, even the SLIGHTEST shred of evidence for the existence of the Godhead, that is, a Supreme Person or Deity.‬🤓 It is high time for humanity to awaken from all INANE superstitions such as the belief in a Personal God which created the Universe, would you not agree, Slave? 😩 P. S. When I typed “There’s only one TINY little problem with what you wrote above”, I was obviously being sarcastic, since, objectively speaking, your inane drivel was fully inebriated with a plethora of nonsensical assertions and unverifiable concepts, Silly Slave. 🙄☝🏼🙄

The problem I see with your approach is we have to depend on people’s interpretations of scriptures since the scriptures don’t speak directly or clearly on this topic. While I’m not trans myself, I wouldn’t want to trust the lives of trans people to the mere whim of interpretation. We have plenty of evidence in history on how wrong that goes

@@TheWorldTeacher Hi there, where did everything come from if it wasn’t created?

@@JPolwarth Hi there, I think you’ll find scripture is very clear on this subject...it’s wrong.

Perfectly stated! I kept waiting for Preston to quote God's word as His primary defense. I appreciated his respect and kindness, but there's a time to boldly proclaim a person's sin.

true, we should ask ourselves if anything we do will be acceptable to Him.

I don’t agree.

I totally disagree.

That’s Old Testament thinking. This is the 21st century. Catch up...

@@mr.c2485 what is?

Good and bad are RELATIVE. ;)

@@TheWorldTeacher Bad comment. (sorry, I just had to. ;)

@@KennyVert, slightly bad or ABSOLUTELY bad? 😉

My opinion is this person is an Activist disguised as a Christian.

It's called "freedom".

It isn't, indeed to 'be oneself' is to be selfishly in rebellion against God.

@@rhamlyn100 freedom has its limitations

Right? Since when does anything in the Bible point to that.

@@Becca_Lynn Difficult to know who you are replying to.

Obviously, you have spent some time reading Holy Writ. But this is really not hard to figure out, for even my 4 year old child understands the difference between boys (males) & girls (females); that is why the Left will use our tax dollars to force our school systems to spend billions indoctrinating our children to believe otherwise.

Jesus like many people of his day also seemed to believe that epilepsy was caused by demon possession. So probably not the best example to use...

@@jy1733, respected British anthropology professor, Dr. Edward Dutton, has demonstrated that “LEFTISM” is due to genetic mutations caused by poor breeding strategies. To put it simply, in recent decades, those persons who have leftist traits such as egalitarianism, feminism, socialism, multiculturalism, homosexuality, perverse morality, and laziness, have been reproducing at rates far exceeding the previous norm, leading to an explosion of insane, narcissistic SOCIOPATHS in (mostly) Western societies.

@Teal Splash, Good Girl! 👌

@@TheWorldTeacher i have major gender dysphoria and I am very close to coming out, remember how the Bible says multiple times to respect every by the thought of a neighbor. On top of the fact that all Christians say God loves everyone, it doesn't matter who or what you are you have to respect and love eachother don't be a hypocrit and not quote something to benefit your personal biased opinions

Being male as in gender male isn't about genitals or genetics, its a social, cultural and personal thing by definition. Biological sex and gender are not the same (and never were), so your problem is only with labels It is not negating that a person with a penis has a penis, it is negating tht gender male refers to a person with a penis or XY chromosomes, as that is not the case (scientifically and historically) That is a scientific fact (that gender isn't the same as biological sex), so if you wanna go with the science then that's it

@@drizzly9936 So what's your definition of a "man"?

@@drizzly9936, INCORRECT. ☝️

@@drizzly9936 wow!..you sound very confused my friend, come to know Jesus as your saviour and then your mind will be clearer.

@@drizzly9936 Nonsense.

Intersex children are either makes or females. They're never actually both os it snto an issue. Their eis surgery to fix the problem

BUT being transgender is not going against the Bible, the Bible does not speak on this topic!

Does gender have to have a transcendent meaning? Obviously, for practical purposes there has to be a usual sense we use the term, but does it really have to be something set in stone? The only time somebody like Christin's biology would be relevant is if she were a younger woman and wanted to have biological children, or you were her medical doctor.

@@Magnulus76 Just curious. Do you think skin color has a transcendent meaning?

@@clarkemorledge2398 No.

Chode 12:13 says you are wrong. Why should we care about an anecdotal claim? Why pick this one over the 39478913451345 you can rival with the exact same evidence; anecdotal nonsense? You can assert this has actual meaning, but its just words on paper until demonstrated it has any truth value.

@@lebronbrady6638 the only way that God has revealed himself to man is through scripture.

As an ordained Baptist minister, I can tell you there are many other ways to interpret Romans 1 and remain fully affirming of the trans community.

@@teachpeace3750 you have no authority over the word of God. You cannot affirm sin. Simple

@@lebronbrady6638 I’m not afraid of homosexuals. Look it up on the DSM-V

Lol... A woman shall not wear a man's clothing & vice versa.. isn't that rediculous! Men wore skirts in those days haha. I they forgot to mark on the clothing which ones were for who! Even today... I saw a woman in a suit and tie. SEE HOW NUTS ALL RELIGIONS ARE!!!!🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Indeed

Was thinking exactly the same, Justine your an absolute discrace repent and read your bible your a wolf

RU-vid does not allow to talk about this issue honestly. it deletes all the comments.

Is it youtube or justin that's deleting ? All this talk what about God's word does that no stand for anything anymore ? Run fast from these so called men of God they are fully promoting the anti christ agenda

@@kateblock1979 how do you know comments are being deleted? Did they appear at one point and they are no longer there?

There were 219 comments - including mine - which was talking about an ex-lgbt and ex-transgender christian facebook group called x-out-loud which is a group of testimonies from ex-lgbt and transgender christians who have reverted back to their original sex some of which are now in heterosexual relationships Why are these comments being deleted ?

Ok, Identity is a thing you go as, my gender identity is female but my gender is birth gender and genitalia gender.

@Amelia Portman The Christian God. What do you think about Him and mistakes?

@Amelia Portman Let's look at your thoughts one at a time. How is He incompetent, based on your massive and complete understanding of all things in this universe? ;) However, are you attempting to hijack the point of this video which covers believers in the church? In other words, does your apparent nonbelief have a stake in the point behind this video??

@Amelia Portman I doubt there can be "failings" in a question, only if you project them in there. I haven't taken a side, at least not intentionally. ;)

The enemy sowed tares

@Amelia Portman Jesus loves you, come to him and receive eternal life.

Why do you feel so threatened? Seems odd.

Tht would be like saying "I'm a human, not a homo sapiens. Biologists don't get to define for me what I am"

@Red Authority it is a scientific fact that gender isn't the same as biological sex and that trans people are a thing that happens, so if you want to go with the science then that's it

@Red Authority that is plainly false, the term gender used to refer to people was first used last century to refer to gender identity, as opposed to biological sex

@@jmike2039 What do u think threaten me?

Wow. That was powerful at the end

Just asking: 1. Does your church affirm the moral goodness of adultery, homosexuality, fornication, etc? 2. Does your church dis-believe that God made us male & female and that marriage is 2b a covenant only between one man & one woman? 3. Or is it that your church is not only in-the-World but is also of-the-World -- being morally impotent & being tossed to & fro by every wind of doctrine?

@Red Authority I actually am. Out and proud church warden. Due to Covid I have to wear a mask at work and I use my rainbow masks. And I married my partner in a church (we actually had three priests in the ceremony😊)

I was Just confirmed into a Church that excepts same sex loving people as integrated parts of the Body of Christ and are not separated into Acts and voids love and intimacy in LQBTQ lives, I see this similare to the ways the Church has grown to give more reverence to women and wholeness to the enslaved through Abolition. We shall Overcome. Jesus is my Rock and Salvation and through him all thing are possible.

@Red Authority You do not Gate Keep the Eucharist, sacraments, liturgy, scripture, or my relationship with Christ. Get the behind me Demon!

@@jeremywilliams3465 Amen🙏🏻

The Bible as a whole is void. It was meant for illiterate goat herders during the Iron Age. Definitely outdated.

@@mr.c2485 thats why 63% of all nobel winners are Christians...nice ignorance buddy

Women these days cut their hair short and wear jeans; jeans were originally mens' clothing; presumably that is sinful relative to the Old Testament. Presumably a Scotsman wearing a kilt is sinful relative to the Old Testament ?

Excellent point! If we are going to be given new bodies in the new world, then are our physical bodies now really a good indication of who we are? Whereas our minds and souls are what we keep in the New Creation (I think? is how I read it), so surely our gendered minds should be considered the more important authority than our sexed bodies.

@@danh4698 other comment you say "there is no gender in Christ" to say gender doesn't really exist. here you say "there is gender in heaven" to say gender does exist

This type of thought gets you to 'god was justified in killing infants in 1 samuel 15:3'. Im sorry for you.

@@jmike2039 he was justified

@@jmike2039 so your pro life?

@@jmike2039 God takes everyone's life. He gives life and has the right to take it when He pleases.

@@martinploughboy988 that's never been how it works. No form of 'life's has the right to take any life, unless, and solely unless, their own survival depends on it. Taking the life of any sentient creature "cause you wanna" is immoral. What you "made" has no bearing. The people who built my house have no right to take it down purely for their own pleasure, and not out of necessity.

Agreed. The volatile idea that you can be anything merely because of the feelings you have makes it very difficult to give any respect to their ethos as LGBTQ. The people ought to be treated with love and respect, but their ideas hasn't inkling of any rationale in normative reality.

As someone studying gender theory at a Christian university, maybe I can help explain a bit. The fundamental idea is that, over time, western society has determined a set of roles that men and women should act within, which we call gender, and that much of modern society insists these roles should be assigned according to the sex you are born with. Some people find that they don’t want to live according to the roles assigned to their born-sex, and for some people this extends to feeling that their body is different from how they feel it should be. This is a strange idea for most cisgender (not trans) people, but there’s no denying that some people legitimately feel that way. Maybe it is a “mental disorder” (gender dysphoria), but that doesn’t mean they’re feelings should be dismissed. Saying that gender is a social construct is not the same as saying that it’s fake or irrelevant; in fact, much of the LGBT community supports the idea of gender as an essential part of society, just trying to expand how people can interact with it.

@@Ros170386coe Maybe I already explained this enough, but I do want to emphasize that gender theory says that the way most people want to express their gender is already in accordance with the roles established; it is the trans people who feel that they should express their gender differently from what society expects from their born sex that are being dismissed by most of the Christian community, and that doesn’t feel right in accordance with theology of love, especially considering that there doesn’t seem to be a strong doctrinal argument that those feelings shouldn’t be respected

I hear you. At the end of the deduction, certain biblical truths need to be upheld no matter how genuine or sincere contrary feelings may be be experienced. In our endeavour to be polite and loving, we must maintain the truth of thing. I concede that we as Christians do get it wrong a lot of the time. In that area we need to become more mature and loving.

@@KillerOfWhales I understand what you're saying. I read a book called "Hands Are Not For Hitting" with my toddler son almost daily. It's hard to imagine a book like this being used to teach little boys with Roman, Viking, or Spartan societies. Gender roles change to certain extents and are negotiated by each culture. My point was simply to say that she was saying she wanted to be a "woman" hence why she transitioned. And a statement like that presumes a particular gender role which seems to be debated more broadly in feminist circles as something that is completely socially constructed. So you essentially have a man trying to portray his own perception of what a "woman" acts like, which only perpetuates many of these gender roles. But your very charitable comment is helpful. If you don't mind me asking how do you reconcile your studies with you faith? I would think our gender roles should always be compared against the norms established in the Bible (easier said than done). And I have a hard time seeing how sex transitions are consistent with the Scriptures. But I'm curious what you think.

Satan was the first to forsake his creation & place in the universe & decided he was something else!

Surely being true to God is being true to how he made you. He made Christina's mind, he made her to know that she is a daughter of God. By living authentically she *is* being the truest to God she can be.

@@danh4698 I can see the point you're making and indeed thought similarly myself. If this is true then His word the bible would line up with this thought. Or, God would be cruel to have made us then found fault in His creation for something that they could not change. However, He's not cruel. He explains that we've fallen short of the standard He has for us. He asks us to acknowledge this, turn away from our former actions and accept the free gift, of the penalty for this sin through Jesus Christ's sacrifice. He provides the holy spirit, who is Him, to guide and direct us through this earthly journey. Is it easy, no. Is it a paradigm shift yes. Is it following His way as opposed to our own way, yes. However, we can choose to not accept this and, though not wanting this He will leave the person to thier choice and the inevitable outcome.

What is “born again”?

You obviously read the First Things article on it. These people have unlimited money and are smart businessmen who know how to get what they want. And they have no fear of God. When King Henry took over the Catholic Church in England in the 16th. century only one bishop said no- St John Fisher. Less than two generations later Catholicism was a dim memory to most people in England.

@@jjcm3135 We're the 'universal' Church and there are now double the number of Catholics there was in 1970. The English monarch wa one of many, through the ages, who attempted to crush us and yet we endure. As for your endorsement of the aforementioned; smart, no fear of God. Foolish more like as they damn themselves. Do you have a link to the First Things article?

@@liammccann8763, there’s only one TINY little problem with what you wrote above, Sir.☝️ There has never been, nor will there ever be, even the SLIGHTEST shred of evidence for the existence of the Godhead, that is, a Supreme Person or Deity.‬🤓 It is high time for humanity to awaken from all INANE superstitions such as the belief in a Personal God which created the Universe, would you not agree, Slave? 😩

@@TheWorldTeacher You bear witness to the carnage that the contemporary world has to offer as a result of turning away from the Creator. Your 'World teacher' moniker does not speak of a virtuous, humble or modest human person. I pray in time your intellect is illuminated so that you can move your will and therein respond to the Grace of Our Lord. Ne Timeas.

Actually it is possible for trans to experience that although expensive.

Yes, the Bible calls Christians to Exhort one another. This man, who is a priest, classifies himself as a Christian. As the body of Christ we need to Exhort him. Simple. Other people who aren't christians. We are simply asked to spread the Great Commission. If they don't want to hear it or have anything to do with it. We are to wipe the dirt off our feet and continue. Also, Jesus was never against wealth. He was against loving wealth. Take King Solomon for example, the richest king that has ever existed and no one was like him before or after him. But we know for a fact sexuality. You can either be a man, and copulate with a woman. or you can be a woman and copulate with a man. But you can be a rich generous man or woman.

A tially it's you liberals that do that

It is God that gives us the power to make wealth.

The Bible says to love everyone and they always ignore it because they feel uncomfortable about it, I am partially Christian and I love myself as a transgender woman mtf

@@Soleial you're nto a Christian

You are INCORRECT, Madam.

By what standard can a woman be a pastor? Do you mean what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14?

@@lew1689 🐟 25. THE ROLE OF FEMALES: Women are fortunate because they are BORN with a job: Daughter. Wife. Mother. Females normally have no role in public life. Exceptions to this rule are relatively rare. For instance, women may work in the arts (singers, actors, and dancers, which often demand female players), or as maids or nurses, both of which are feminine duties, providing it has no detrimental effect on their PRIMARY function, as daughters, wives, and mothers. So, a female’s fundamental role is to serve her MASTERS (any man in her family circle), even from a relatively young age, by performing domestic duties and raising her children. Barren women (heterosexual or otherwise) are extremely unfortunate, but can still devote their lives to serving their husband, father, grandfather, uncles, or in the event that none of those men are extant, adult male cousins. Studies have shown that the more a woman deviates from this innate societal function, the less she is fulfilled. The phrase, “Cat Lady”, says it all. As a general rule, women should be protected in the home, and never wander-out alone. They should FULLY cover their bodies in the presence of post-pubescent males outside the family circle. Even the prostitutes in some nations wear veils in public, even if out of fear of reprisal. Having lived the eremitic life of a monastic priest for several decades, I can attest to the importance of keeping one’s home clean and tidy. It is obvious to me that housekeeping is very much a full-time occupation, and that if I were to neglect my domestic chores, my health and comfort would greatly diminish. As is to be expected of a person in my position, I follow a strict diet and am obsessive in regards hygiene. Without a spouse, the onus is on me to maintain my residence in a prim and proper manner, even though it results in me spending less time teaching religion. Therefore, the role of a housewife is of paramount importance, and must never be discounted by anybody, particularly feminist ideologues. The ONLY reason I have resided alone for most of my adult life is due to the fact that there is a severe scarcity of decent women in my country, and indeed the entire world, what to speak of holy and righteous women. Unfortunately, few women, particularly in the more affluent nations, receive adequate training in the connubial arts any longer. In recent centuries, due to various factors (FEMINISM, in particular), women have become so degraded, that is it practically impossible to find an example of an ideal woman. Therefore, in order to reference examples of such a woman, one is forced to refer to figures from ancient myths. Mariam, the mother of Lord Jesus Christ, and Devī Sītārānī, the wife of Śri Rāja Rāma, King of Ayodhya, are the epitome of womanhood, and ought to be the role models for each and every girl born on this planet. That is assuming, of course, that those two women were, in actual fact, the gentle, refined, humble and submissive goddesses they were portrayed to be in the archaic scriptures. Obviously, this teaching receives an ENORMOUS amount of scorn, contempt and derision from a certain proportion of women (and also many "men"), but that is perfectly fine, because, such foolish feminists are destined to die lonely and alone, with no family surrounding them, and hopefully not transfer their adulterated genes to forthcoming generations. In some locations in the world, STRAY COWS freely wander the urban streets, displaying their teats. Similarly, in most locations, women wander the dangerous streets alone or in groups, displaying their bosoms and other bodily parts. Such loose women are no better than STRAY COWS. The TRUTH is very difficult to accept, right, Slave? “Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the TRUTH.” Siddhārtha Gautama (AKA The Buddha), Aṅguttara Nikāya 3.131 (Paraphrased). Paṭicchanna Sutta “...encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be self-controlled, chaste, good managers of the household, kind, being submissive to their husbands, so that the word of God may not be discredited.” ************* “Yet women will be saved through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and love and holiness, with modesty.” ************* “Women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.” St. Paul of Tarsus, Titus 2:4-5. 1 Timothy 2:15. 1 Corinthians 14:34.

Trans women are men

@@authsoc.3313 wrong.

that's true, but doesn't mean homosexual sex is not a sin. The bible is clear, any sex outside of a husband and wife's marriage is sinful. So whilst God will accept all sinners, homosexuals will need to acknowledge that engaging in that is sinful the same way any sinner accepts that he is a sinner

@@ericsonofjohn9384 Yes, sex outside marriage is a sin in the Catholic church, all unmarried person, of any sexual orientation are bound by that morality. That applies to everyone. Being a homosexual is not a sin.

@Red Authority Never forgiven!!!??? I’m of a nonstandard Christian faith, so I don’t fully understand all the typical views of forgiveness, but that sounds entirely unChristian to me, and frankly a God who would never forgive for a particular sin sounds evil to me

@Red Authority you’re an idiot. And an embarrassment to christianity. Jesus died so every sinner could be forgiven, including those who have homosexual sex. You’re a genuine homophobe.

@Red Authority You didn’t answer my point you ignorant clown. Did Jesus come for every sinner or not? If he did, then he came for those who have homosexual sex as well. Are you perfect? Do you sin? If you sin then you have no grounds to pass judgement on who Jesus should save. What bible verse excludes homosexuals from salvation? Back your shitty opinion up

I hate Religion!

What do you mean by this comment?

@@teachpeace3750 He means he enjoys mocking other people’s affliction.

@@kelvyquayo mocking other people's delusions

Thanks - very important

Yet, there is your comment. 👆

@@TheWorldTeacher I actually responded to your comment before this one but....what do you know? It failed to post...

@@TheWorldTeacher anything against...

@@TheWorldTeacher transgenderism...

@@TheWorldTeacher ...gets deleted...

Definitely, I was posting something and my account was not allowed to post comments. This is disgusting.

Kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️

In almost 100% of cases I've seen/heard there was early childhood trauma. It's far too common to ignore.

We must test the voice and words with scripture. God will not contradict his word. Where in the scripture does it say "thou shalt not be transgender?" "It says he created us male and female." Sure. God created Christina female. (Also, in relation to non-binary people, it never says he stopped at just two genders. The Bible doesn't mention anything other than m/f, but neither does it mention llamas, or England, and both of those still exist.) "God doesn't make mistakes"/"God created us in the womb". Yes. Christina being a woman wasn't a mistake. Trans people aren't a mistake. God created them the way they are. "God created us in His image." Exactly!!! And God is neither male or female, surely?? I think the clearest reference to how much sex matters to God is Galatians 3:28 - "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." That is me referring to the scripture, and using it to do the most good I can, which the most informed on this topic agree, is affirming transgender identities.

My spouse is trans. She came out 3 years ago after battling gender dysphoria all her life. She used to like to try her sisters clothes on and was told off, and steered towards boys activities. She became a Christian at 17. She bought womens clothes in secret then threw them out, over and again. She was prayed for and had counselling. She went for healing. She played football went into the building trade. None of it worked. At the age of 47 it got so difficult she finally came out and now lives as a woman. When I cried out to God about it, literally, God very clearly said to me "let her be who she is". That changed me, and has enabled me to support her through her transition. It has also given me a better understanding of how lgbtq people are treated. My spouse and to some extent I have gone from being leaders and fully part of church community to being tolerated and very much on the sidelines. Please understand being trans is not a life choice.

@@sarahjf69 Hi Sarah 👋. Thank you for sharing what happened to you and your spouse. I really appreciate you being vulnerable like that and I feel honored to hear your story. A couple questions came to my mind and it's up to you if you want to answer them or not of course. 1. What do you believe is the source of peace and joy in this life? 2. How can someone know for certain they are hearing God's voice? Thank you for taking the time to read and consider what I wrote. God bless your day.

@Sarah Pfeuffer thanks for your reply, I can absolutely say that Jesus is absolutely the source of peace and joy in my life. I would not be here without Him. As for whether I heard the voice of God clearly. I believe I did. I had literally just come home from the New Wine Leaders Conference, where I had spent the vast majority of my spare time on my knees praying, I found out the extent of my spouses gender dysphoria just before I went. She was really struggling, her depression was reaching crisis point to the point I was considering not going because I feared for her safety. I discussed her issues with some very close Christian friends whilst away. Both of them said leave her. This seemed to me to be cruel to someone already struggling. We had been married 22 years at that point. So I looked to God and I searched the scriptures. I found that there is only one verse in deuteronomy which seems to be the main 'clobber verse' for trans discussions. This was written in the context of prostitution in the temple, and is surrounded by laws which are in no way relevant or even legal in today's society. I then spent the rest of the week in between going to seminars and worship, on my knees in prayer asking for guidance. Once I got home I looked into Jewish scripture and found in the Talmud there are 8 genders listed, male, female and 6 in between categories. Jesus would have been well aware of this as a teacher. I listened to teaching from both sides of the argument, and found the arguments against to be confusing transgender issues with being gay..2 totally different issues. Being trans is about who you are, not who you love, it's not really about sexuality at all. I found that Jesus said nothing about being trans, obviously something that couldn't exist then, surgery wasnt available and neurophysiology didnt exist, but in Matthew 19:12 Jesus talks about different types of Eunuchs. (the nearest thing to trans in the Bible) This is open to interpretation obviously but would suggest that Jesus understood that there were differences in some people who chose to be eunuchs or who were born that way. The first person baptised by St Philip the evangelist was an Ethiopian eunuch. In fact Jesus words spoke about divorce and remarriage in no uncertain terms, the wider new testament scriptures spoke about women being quiet and not preaching, about dressing modestly etc etc, none of these things are an issue in most churches now and we would say very adamantly that the culture and times were very different, but nothing is said about gender issues. So when I got on my knees and cried out to God I had already searched my heart, and scripture, and when God said "Let her be who she is" it was for me, because I did not want to lose my husband. Since then God has been so good to me and helped, still is helping, so much through first grieving for what I lost, then supporting and loving my spouse through a very challenging time for her, she is far more at peace with God and herself, but finds the rejection from her church family very difficult. So I cannot doubt that the word i heard was real, and from God. Sadly though attitudes in the church are so hard and so entrenched that i am not listened to and my spouse definitely isn't! But it is God's church so I will continue to serve as best I can, I will love, and I will accept all who come seeking our Lord, whoever they are. If you are wondering about how my spouse and I conduct our relationship.....we are best friends, we love each other deeply, but that's as far as it goes. I am not turning gay as some people have told me i am!! . I hope that gives you some insight.

I did find it a bit awkward how he was constantly tripping over himself. However, at least he has self-awareness, and is just doing his best to be a compassionate person.

@@danh4698 Well, I'd respectfully disagree. It is not compassionate gratuitously to self-depricate your own person; especially self-deprication of immutable, God-given qualities. It is pathetic, frankly, and complete cowardice. In addition, it props up this notion that being white, straight, non-trans, et. al., is something that even needs to be apologized for.

@@marcuswilliams7448 I also agree that you don't have to apologise for those things - I said it was awkward, but it was meant in good nature. As for your other point - I'd argue that gender - as perceived within the mind God created - is an "immutable, God-given quality", and thus Christina is fully embracing her God-given womanhood.

Absolutely. So disappointed that there was VERY little scripture discussed in this video. There was more discussion about personal experiences and medical community consensus than, "What does Scripture teach us?"

^ Great comment!

There are people that claim to be Christians and deny the authority of the Bible as the word of God. I don't know why anyone would want to be a Christian and deny the Bible. However, if we believe the Bible is authoritative and is God's word to mankind, everything we believe should come under and be confirmed to it. I have yet to hear a pro-transgender coherent argument made using the Bible. Philosophy, science, and reason should be included in the discussion, but if those areas oppose what God's word teaches, Christians are commanded to stand on God's word.

@@mattholder7022 Unfortunately there are so many Christians who are simply closet Pharisees. They read the Bible, but lack the knowledge, understanding, and wisdom to arrive at an adequate interpretation. They see only the letter of the law, not the loving spirit of Christ.

@@normaodenthal8009 yes, there are Pharisees. Something Preston said in The video that I agree with is that if we are commanded to love people and speak and obey the Truth, and if we believe God's word teaches a traditional sexual and gender ethic, it is actually loving to say it. Being a pharisee means to follow God's word outwardly without a heart that loves God and people. If we follow God's word with a heart that loves God and people, we follow Jesus' example. Like Preston said, this is a difficult topic and people need to be gentle and compassionate in speaking about it. 😊

@@mattholder7022 You’re right. Compassion is always the key.

"...whether certain lifestyle choices are aligned with God's Word and truth." where in the Bible does it say "thou shalt not be transgender", exactly?

Dan H, Hello, more than happy to engage with you in a sincere conversation. Are you someone who has accepted the Bible as God’s word, or someone who sees it as one of many religious books? Either way, I’m happy to have a respectful conversation-just want to know your starting point. Thanks Rick

@@r1ckandrew Although I was brought up in the church, and sincerely believed for the first 20 years of my life, recently I have moved away from the faith. However, my beliefs on gender and sexuality etc. have been the same for at least the last 5 years or so, so they were formed with the conviction that the Bible is the Word of God, and I believe they are Biblically compatible. Hope that makes sense? Yours, Dan :)

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@@Greef246 because if you are you are directly being a hypocrit

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Yes, how inequitable for those who couldn't or can't explore this remedy.

@@kristinberry3915 which is most people throughout history;

Would you say the same thing about a child born with a birth defect and their life was saved by a surgery. Would you say gods will was for that child to die or was gods will fufilled by the surgery? I find it really course you would even think that way, it feels you are searching for reasons to imply transgender people are against god by simply existing.

@@teranelson826 false comparison;

You are a homosexual. Accept it.

@@rhamlyn100 Na I don't accept that.

@@fukyoutubefukthegovfuku He doesn't exist you clown. Grow up and leave trans people alone.

@@rhamlyn100 Yes he does, you need to repent my friend,or you will perish .

@@foundthetruth2003 Grow up, sir.

Have u noticed how much time and effort is required to cover up a lie? Let the Word of God be True & every man a liar.