Transport Fever 2 - 5 Things Transport Fever 2 Does Better Than Transport Fever 1 

"Wuhan exchange" November 2019 What

They should have kept the need for food in all towns, but add the specialised industrial needs.

12:17 close the roads to wuhan ahaah

Thanks for pointing out the module stations, I've watched several lets plays recently and none of them showed them in the detail you did in the 5 mins. I also love the new 2 items per town change too... but I hope they add in for this to grow through the ages and as the town grows - maybe to 4. To give you reason to expand your network and to supply the larger towns with new cargo...

I still don't like the whole specific needs.. I'd rather of seen towns become "specialized" in something. Like a town having more houses than anything else requiring more goods, and food over other types, but still requiring those other things. Where as a business willr equire a huge amount of goods, but less food or tools, where as an industry focused town will require tons of fuel, tools, and less of everything else, but again still require everything. This way you technically can't just setup 1 major hub for food. You'll need to still specialize lines, so now maybe you need a train that is carrying both food, tools, and and oil, for a town that needs minimal levels of them, while another train on another line is all oil for that industry town to the other side.. It's not like there isn't an over abundance amount of industries on the map anyway.. The problem with this simplified version of it is the game is going to get REALLY boring much quicker than the original, because once you set a town up to supply it with the 2 things it needs. gg.. that's it. Just keep upgrading the rail lines, and trains, and you're done. Nothing more to do or balance, which is half the fun/challenge is trying to balance those supply lines, and changing supplies and demands.

Really enjoyed your very chill narration, not something you see from youtubers these days, they all try to be too excitable. This channel just feels like a breath of fresh air.

Lol Wuhan. Don't make a passager line there. Pro tip from the future.

6:18 Me: There's a spot he can put it right in the center, so I'm sure he'll do that. Me: He'll center it... right? Me: ;-;

okay, well, guess i'm making myself some enemies now. let's start: 05:23 you could always drop of cargo at passenger stations, tho for trains it never really made sense - what was indeed super useful was the possibility to use the existing bus infrastructure 05:37 while I was very looking forward to the configuration tool, i'm highly skeptical of it now. It not only means we're bound to the same straight stations and single-levelled designs we've always been, but it's highly likely for the codebase to have been reworked to a point that existing curved-station mods won't be usable anymore. So... Instead I present: 10 things out of my head, I would have loved to see in... well train fever already. But 3 games in- we're still nowhere near: 1) Waiting trains / priority trains / a way to tell the 120km/h thing to wait until the 300km/h thing has passed 2) Limited Trainspeed and/or schedules where i can tell IN SECONDS how long a train should wait. Not minutes, hell how is this thing still not a slider ranging from 1 sec to no matter how long? 3) 2 level stations, courved stations in vanilla 4) an option for a train to choose WHATEVER platform is free at the station. I hate having to build 5-line stations for 5 lines, when 90% of the time, only one train will be there, just because sooner or later, two trains would approach at the same time and fuck up the entire even spacing. 5) decoupling of trains. How about your Vyrms splitting half way from Amsterdam to Luxembourg? One heading off to belgium the other towards lux? Wouldn't that be obvious? nah, and in that sense: 6) almost no new old trains. I know it sounds stupid, haha no new old trains, but for the first 100 years, this will almost be the same game again (yes, i know, asia....) - thankfully mods will help us out soon, but it's uncertain at this point whether the old ones are compatible 7) More settings: yes the new map preview looks nice, but I'm still missing a snowy terrain. Same goes for dynamic seasons and a lot of beautiful nice-to-have features (day night cycle for example) 8) Dynamic cities. As you show they're still the same like in Train Fever. All cities are about the same size. maybe the big ones are 2 or 3 times as big, but who cares if they have 400 people instead of 125 - they are simply too samy, to random, not spread out enough.... 9) special roads for pedestrians only.. like footpaths? streets for busses only? tram lines on grass? all the stuff we're used to seeing in real life? well i guess traffic lights are a start... 10) 12:40 it was never easy to satisfy one city - in fact it was shier impossible. A medium sized city required so much, that it was impossible to satisfy all goods. I was really hoping for a change here when I heard that cities were limited to two goods each. the problem however is still: a beginner city in a let's play i saw yesterday needed 400!!! goods. 400 to satisfy. when a cargo wagon can carry 6, a 'truck' (more like a carriage) can carry 4. So you again need 100 trucks per year travelling through the city? the ratio only worsens there. in my current playthrough my main city needs 4000 of each and even with 4 trucklines and 6 train lines coming in, i'm not close to satisfy anything. not by a long run, I'm at 30% at best... But I can't expand them since all there is in my city are just busses and trucks... they kept blocking themselves. goods have always been a nightmare and they still are. I will never have any need to build a mixed train for example. Or one of these cute tiny trains with only 4-5 cargo wagons

These jet planes are so ridiculous on a map with 16km side-length. This is already the diameter of a SINGLE average medium city, so with a runway of 2 -3km length and 2 airports you got about 10km between them in best case, which is just 4 times the runway length and less the bare minimum just for the approach path itself! In the Caribbean sea there are some shuttle/taxi planes for these small distances, but these are mostly water planes and props, carrying maybe 6-10 PAX at max, that's it!

This is just the Tutorial I was looking for yesterday, many thanks for your detailed explanation. I had worked out the Train Stations, but then trains are my thing.

Yep, that's English with a Dutch accent. I might just follow just for that 😉

i cant wait! I hope many modders will produce good content

I hope that you keep uploading this game, love to watch transport fever

These improvements are really neat, I would def like to see some gameplay vids, even if it was just a few. Also, for the island type maps, are there floatplanes? In real life they are really important for time critical things, doctors, tourism, etc, and it would be interesting to see it modeled in-game. Wouldn't be the top money maker, but it could be incentivized by tax refund/low upkeep/community service money, and maybe provide some kind of bonus to connected areas.

This video has convinced me to get Transport Fever 2. I've been contemplating it for a little while now (never having played TF1)

Thank you very much for the hints. Did buy the game yesterday and even had no clue about this possibilities. But NOW, i do! ;-) Without any booklet, only purchasing online, it's a bit difficoult to figure out such things! You helped a lot! *bow*

"i´m quite supriced how quickly the map generats" Well i´m not... Sitting on a 6 core bulldozer... It takes like a minite

I always choose a small map, and low towns and industries, just because I like connecting everything. It gives me a feeling of having beaten a level. Huge maps with 215 industries could take you literal weeks to connect everything.

On Temperate map, you always just get those 2-3 rivers that are split and some areas that are a little wider. (Depending on settings ofc.) But same water setting, will always give the same rivers with some small variations. I wish the maps would be totally different every time

Technically, Transport fever 1 had a way to use a Station for both passengers and cargo too. (Litterally 1, you could use the bus stop to deliver cargo.)

As a Filipino, Tropical is such a nice addition, *+* alongside with Asian transportation vehicles.

How does it make sense, that cities need different stuff? The one needs food and the other construction material while starving to death building houses? This needs to be modded away quickly.

I wish they added car industries....they were there in Trains and trucks tycoon and it was a bliss to the eyes to see the loaded cars in carriages and being transported by longer trains or even trucks

So excited for this to come out

5:21 It's actually OK to drop off cargos using a passenger station in TF... Just u must use a freight station to pick up cargos. Same thing applies to a bus stop, u can actually drop cargos there...

Its strange am i the only one who would say it just feels like only an update of TF1 ?

You may also want to mention the cargo roadside drop off docks..they are quite useful

One thing I really still miss is the possibility to make custom runways for airports :( Other than that it looks promising!

very nice, thanks for this

I believe your are mistaken about the modular station or I am not getting it right. At minute 6:40 you're saying you can add, to the train station, a side cargo building with street access from where trucks will be able to load / unload cargo. In my current (and first) playthrough, I cannot seem to be able to do that. I have a road linking to that side building in question and in the line manager, it says I am trying to link buses with train which are incompatible. Am I getting it wrong or was your explanation incorrect ? Thanks for the help and cheers for the video !

I really wanted them to make realistic signaling for trains.

How do I bring all the iron from the mines into a truck depot then have trucks take it from the depot to it’s final location? That’s a common logistics manoeuvre and it won’t even let me do it. I want the big trucks to bring it across the map then the small trucks eco trucks to take it the rest of the way into town..

Can I use a bus/truck station with two exits at the city limits to let my vehicles trough but block cars. In the previous games cars could jam the roads easily. Using station as gates would be helpful.

Hoi ! Hoe zit het nou met die bus/cargo terminals dan. Want word dat dan niet veel te druk op die terminals? Mijn idee is dat nu pax en cargo veel te druk word op 1 terminal en alles helemaal vast staat als de demand steeds meer word. Thanks voor je content man! Kijk graag je filmpjes en leer er behoorlijk van!

I cannot wait to see how people break the game!

In my opinion maps are small, they might not seem like it because they also have small cities but once you see a train station being half the size of a city and a railroad line that goes trough half map and the train barely reaches full speed you notice how small the map really is

Do you plan to do a series of Transport Fever 2 on your channel? The game looks really good.

bravo!! excellent!

can't wait

Wuhan what are the odds 😂

Honestly this looks like it could’ve been done to the main game tf1 as updates but they decided to make a new branch of tf1

Does the town needs change in some amount of time ? This will make the game more realistic

How will airplanes be useful in smaller maps?... Any speed factor like open TTD?

You could drop off cargo at passenger station just not pick up in one

How do you auto replace on this game? I can't seem to find how.

Just pre ordered the game..

I was really hoping theyd make the runway textures look more realistic, i.e. adding piano keys and better taxiway markings, but i suppose itll do

TLDR is that these changes have sort of strangled a lot of the complexity out of making individual transport lines and instead shifted the focus to the big picture transport empire running single tracks from one industry to another. Maybe this will appeal to many people but I sort of prefer the TTD super complex single lines with 25 trains running on a huge line. If you are looking for a complex transport game with lots of room for complex train networks, go download OpenTTD for free... it looks like ass but plays like a dream. If you can't deal with the isometric 90s graphics then TF2 is a worthy compromise. Just don't expect the same level of complexity. After playing the game for about 16 hours I would say its a bit of a mixed bag. They moved forward in several areas and sort of went backwards on a few. For one, no industry seems to produce enough product to warrant running more than maybe 2 trains anymore. So out is designing busy stations with many trains transporting goods from the same industry. Ships are actually a viable strategy now and the whole production line feels much less susceptible to randomly halting for no apparent reason and the lines generally run more smoothly. Towns are easier to grow in the early game but seem to reach a point where further growth is impossible due to the new emissions system which has no real way to mitigate it besides replacing your fleet with EVs. The system could use some fleshing out. The graphics have seen a pretty huge improvement and it runs the same if not a little bit better than TF1 (the bar was pretty low to begin with though as I would still say the game runs fairly poorly). I have a I7 4770 and a GTX 1070 and the framerate stutters frequently when zooming in the late game on medium settings. so I wish they had done much more work in this area. The new modular system for stations is great. I have a ton of good things to say about it. It allows for a lot of flexibility in the way your stations work and function. From a design point of view this a big win and goes a long way to eliminate the need for the modded stations we used in the original game. Execution wise though it really could use some tweaking. It is laggy as all hell in the late game and doesn't always work the way you intend. Overall its good but it does need some work. Airports are a bit of a double edged sword this time around. They can be great but they cause so much emission that I ended up bulldozing most of them about halfway through the game due to them causing my towns to shrink. Best thing to do is build them far away from the the city and bus in the people. I wish they had gone with a hybrid of new system and old system when it comes to the types of goods that the towns demand. It makes sense that different towns would demand different goods but it would have been nice if all the towns demanded food or something and then one other random item. The effect the current system has on your game is that your transport empire will be much thinner and more spread out than in TF1 or Transport Tycoon. In my playthrough from 1850 to 2070 or so I ended up transporting goods from probably 75% of the industries on the map. Most of these systems were a single train running back and forth on a single track so the joy of sitting back and marveling at the thousands of goods being transported from a single station is gone.

I bought transport fever 1 a while back for very very cheap, but I never played it. (You know the back log woes). Now I transport fever 2 is on sale. Should I grab it and start with TF2?

Can you buy land area around the stations, because I can see it being frustrating trying to expand stations, airports, etc. when the city keeps putting buildings right up against it.

Still have a doubt that how much is the maximum production about a factory or a farm? I hope have no limits only limited by transportation , in tf1 the maximum issue are annoying.

Hi, can you demolish unwanted industries ?

All I want is the better optimization under a huge population.

Had hoped for larger maps, 24x24 or larger.

Was that a rhino in the cargo hub?!

i gave it a go, but it doesnt work so well on 4k, lagged like hell

It's too bad we can't add runways to airports. Still, can't wait to play tomorrow.

Big maps are very fun, but my pc thinks differently

Transport Fever 2 is basically Transport Fever 1.1

Is there any day/night cycle in the game?

ehh, but where's Free Mode on custom maps?

As long as the industries are randomly generated, the game is still broken. Raw material refiners should be in close proximity to the raw resource. Putting them all over the map randomly makes no sense whatsoever.

Let's face it. Transport fever 2 is mainly an large update on graphics and how stations are built. The tropical maps are nice to have but most people will use modded maps anyways. Several things I had wished for, actually since train fever, are not implemented. The way the in game economy works is still not changed. It's still this weird supply based thing were you can do anything you want and the price is based on distance no matter how silly your idea is. Also, they didnt change anything with track laying it seems. The bumps when crossing with roads still are there. Catenery is still weird on switches (no poles). Station lengths vs train length is super arbitrary. Still there is no superelevation of curved tracks. From a train enthusiasts perspective the game is pretty disappointing

The maps are still far too small

looks like im upgrading from rrt3..lol, wish you could buy industry though,,,,

can you create real world maps?

Neat additions but they aren't worth it to buy almost the same game again. Are there any MAJOR changes?

#1 added grass

5:25 you are totally incorrect, in Transport Fever 1 you can drop cargo in passenger stations, even bus stops, you cannot collect cargo in industries without a cargo station but you can drop as the final destination in passengers stations with no problem at all.

My main question is if the game runs better than the first one. I have a pretty good machine and that thing ran like ass at the late game no matter what options I tweaked. Don't get me wrong I still played it for like 140 hours...

Wuhan. Alright, you are suspicius already,

Yeah but Auto replace?

Wuhan-.. that aged well :D

To be honest, I am not so enthusiastic about second TF. Basically for $30 you get prettier game, where you can adjust terminals (cannot add runways). From what Ive seen, the lines manager is quite messy and preview of map is not a huge deal for me. Yes, it is slightly better game, but is that ''slightly'' worth $30? up to everybodys taste I thing but definitely not must have deal.

This game reminds me of Simcity 5

How much is it

I don't see why people want 250 industries and a shitload of cities 10 cm apart? My problem is there being to many industries on the lowest setting. I want to make long hauls, not 500 short ones. And, the simplified goods model is not a flavor I like. Cities not accepting as many types of goods, farms producing one type of product and so on. Why do this? It's not that the game was to complex? Why must devs always dumb things down? Also, having a map generator is fine and all, but there is not much in the way of height levels. Sure, there are mountains, but just like with many of the workshop maps of TF1 made of height maps, the mountains does not scale well with the vehicles, cities and industries. I want more rolling hills covering the entire map and cities and industries at different altitudes, I want to lay lines up the mountain sides to connect to cities and mines etc. in the mountains. There are maps in TF1 that did this well, and I bet there will be for TF2 as well, and sure, you can make your own map, even if the editor is uberslow to work with. But, having more challenging maps with big differences in altitudes, longer hauls and all that does not fit with the games intended cost income model. You build a long, difficult and expensive route, and actually making money out of it can be hard.

You sound like Kermit the frog

Great... But is that it? A whole new game and only a handful of new features and assets.. And no AI -_-.

Map is still too small for me

they could improve graphic

They dropped Mac support! wtf?

Appearance of this video proves that TF2 cant hold 2 in its name ... its just mod formoney for TF1 For example - change name of game to Witcher2 and Witcher3. Do someone figure out to create it ? :))

Is there anything transport fever 2 does worse?

and i bought tf1 just month ago... fuck me i guess

You're a bèta-tester?

This game has serious performance issues, it will not run on a gaming laptop and requires a workstation to run it at 60 fps

Ok, sorry but I stopped watching as soon as you said "if I change that [map size] it's going to change dramatically." Look at that, from 12x12km to 16x16km. Dude, that's not dramatic. Going from medium to very large.....you'd expect a 4x increase, not 0.33. 16km x 16km.....Christ on a bike, there's FPS games with bigger maps than that. 16x16 is pathetic.

For me industry s way worse in TF2 compared to TF1.

It is a disaster. The blinding gray screen gives me a headache. Train interface is fraked. Can't move around train cars or even add them without selling all and restarting. Every town now only has 2 goods to accept. (WTF? So bread and oil are now accepted at only select cities). I cant find how to auto-replace old vehicles. There are fewer resources to work with and the new icons are confusing,ugly and badly designed with no detail whatsoever, and so on. I loved the game before.. but now I just play it to get my money's worth. For every improved feature, they trashed 12 old features. I would not recommend it to anyone since it is just plain non-intuitive and frustrating. Every thing is just bad.