Oh trust me, in 500 years they’ll think of us as evil🤣 “… and then they laughed and commented on different styles of torture. And just… went back to work!”
Nothing would have been different if it was just two people sitting on chairs in a room for 12 hours, but I guess "in a small box" must get more clicks?
@@soicancommentonvideo You do realize she was uncomfortable most of the time there. Furthermore, she probably just said yes because he would've kept asking.
From what I can see, he stopped touching her unprompted after they announced it, so I don't see the problem. When her legs were over his, it seemed like she was choosing for them to be there. All in all, he's just not good at reading people and either just has or has grown up with less bodily boundaries than others. Like, when he pulled her by the legs, there's so many things he could interpret such as her grimace just being from falling rather than a reaction to the touch.
@@user-qx4bp5rf3n Yeah, if she would've been in a headspace where she DID want him to make a move, then he would be a suave cool guy with the right moves or whatever. The key here is CONSENT. The biggest mistake men make is trying to persuade or convince women to want them sexually when the best relationships are the ones where you are organically, magnetically attracted to each other. Yeah, a little persistence can be romantic, but this isn't it. Continuously touching a woman after she doesn't show interest in a sexual relationship is just wrong. Touching ANYONE that doesn't want to be touched is wrong. I get it, sometimes girls are flirty or whatever & play "hard to get" or whatever, but that's honestly an outdated mindset. If she wants you, she will let you know. If she doesn't, then back off. It's easy.
@@handlethisduki Exatcly. (My friend is asking) Edit: So apparently he was making her feel uncomfortable, by being pretty pushy with almost everything he did. So yeah, he didn't respect or more likely see her boundries
He’s not genuine at all. You can see that at every moment he thinks about how he should appear. I didn’t like it, even this childhood trauma talk sounded like he just wants her to think of him as wounded. He’s a good looking guy but my rating for him would also drop a lot after he started talking
@@handlethisdukiwhaat?! quite the opposite. especially the way he kept touching her, laying on her all the time like they were a couple already or bffs. she never reciprocated but he KEPT doing it. imo she should’ve told him to stop but she was too nice.
The complete lack of awareness for space was really interesting. She was pulling into herself taking up as small a space as she could and he was doing the exact opposite. Felt pretty yucky. really liked when the staff spoke up for her and made a comment about asking for physical permission.
Especially the part where he brought up seggs every 2 mins, said he absolute won’t take her advice and go to therapy (showing no growth) AND how apparently in the uncut version she asked the producers to tell him stop touching her
@@user-bj4ms7mi4d damn that very upsetting. i hope she is doing ok bc in this video she seemed definitely seemed uncomfortable which like same i would be too.
The producers told him to ask more questions like the sex ones and told him to “utilize the space and get closer to her” you just didn’t see it in this video. God RU-vid commenters are dumb
@@asum7213it doesn’t, but if true that puts a lot more of the blame on the Cut producers. Obviously it doesn’t make what he did right. Again though “if” they were careless enough to encourage a dude that already isn’t really picking up on her cues and body language to “utilize the space better” that’s pretty fucked and is on the Cut.
The way she said she didn't like feet and he then proceeded to say he liked them, show her his feet, force her to swap socks and then force her to give him a foot massage 💀
Raise your hand if as a women you’ve been on a date w a man who did not understand or really care about boundaries like this man. One of the worst feelings in the world it was crazy to see this from a third perspective. The way the producer says to ask for consent and then he just lays on her.
once had a man apologize for only one of the things that crossed my verbalized boundary, then proceeded to call himself “mr. communication” while still not asking for verbal consent before touching me 🤦♀️
I don't have the words to explain how PERFECT this is as a representation of men and women's relationships. Lack of interest in her consent, inability to read her body language, huge gap in emotional maturity, the guy thinking the girl is a genius cause she has some basics of emotional intelligence (she was quite emotional intelligent tho, but here I mean that he reacted to very basic things), the girl laughing and him not understanding that it's cause she's feeling awkward, the guy having SO MUCH confidence, the guy taking ALL THE SPACE both physically and emotionally, him saying "I'm proud of you" as if he knew anything about her... I could go on and on for HOURS!!
What are you on about? This is not a perfect representation. This is not something most men do lmao. Ye there are lot doing this but doesn't mean they are in the majority
I would pay to see someone stuck in a box for 12 hours with the dude from the last video that dressed like an astronaut, said he saw an attempted murder and wondered why the girl was weirded out by him
he kept asking sex related questions, laid his head in her lap without asking, grabbed her leg without asking and kept going back on his whole foot fetish thing omfg i cannot with this dude
ive skimmed through the full version and i will say, the shortened down edited version makes him look worse. in the full thing, he still asked a few questions but so did she. the foot thing was a bit weird but aside from that he seemed fairly normal.
I've been on a date that lasted 12 hours. We just sat and talked, and I didn't realize how much time had passed. However, sitting in such an uncomfortable, bright space like that with a blind date.. and the cameras and crew to top it off, sounds nightmarish.
I went on a first date with a woman for roughly 6 or 7 hours. It was pretty magical and she was very sweet. I tried to treat it just like a first meeting (to relax myself a bit and it was our first meeting) but she was clearly very into me the whole time and we just had fun and hung out for the most part. The most memorable date I've ever been on to be honest.
seemed like he said that because the topic was brought up, but even if it wasnt a fetish she literally said she dint like (ugly) feet and was squirmish when the button asked him to show his 😭😭😭😭 why tf did he bring up feet several times after that??? i think id pass out if someone asked me to switch socks, let alone a fckn foot rub!! idk how she did it lmfao
Mans fumbled time and time again. Couldn’t believe he tried to hit her with the “I dare you to kiss me ZaHa 😏” Cody’s fuckboy impression was in prime form here
Lol the fact that she was very open and blatant about not seeing him as a romantic interest and in the end he's like "I can totally see us going on dates"
And some of the comments are painting him as such a bad guy. Like dude he's just doing what he knows to work. He dates a certain type of girl and she is simply a different type of girl, so it doesn't work
@@truesingers77i will guarantee it works for him and he has probably gotten laid multiple times doing so. You may be a reserved guy but there are plenty of guys out there that are somewhat "aggressive" in their approach to picking up women and it works for them so why exactly would they change. Yall ate acting as if he grabbed her tits 😂 she could have easily asked him not to do it. Takes two to tango. If you are too scared to set boundaries with someone then thata partially on you. Not everyone is the same both male and female.
@@tyrellleach1846 given that his longest relationship was 8 months in his late 20s i would say he hasnt been all that successful lol also she asked for him not to touch her in the unedited version apparently
This one was BRUTAL. I hope dude rewatches this several times and learns how his behavior and questions made her uncomfortable. So he can go into future dates and not make the same mistakes he made here.
@@CreativeC13there’s evil people and there’s people who don’t understand body language and other signs. there’s also people who have been socialized their entire lives to become this alpha male stereotype who gets pussy, and these people can change into genuine humans. i’m pretty sure this dude is one of the latter two, not evil. it doesn’t justify, excuse or make any of his actions any better, but in my opinion it does give him the right to a second chance, a right to learn.
He needs to use it to self reflect 😅 and hopefully not to just improve on convincing the next nice lady to stay longer. He really said he knows he's a negative person- after all the ways she offered of looking on the bright side, finding small happinesses 😅 He really said - See I hear you! I need a therapist. I won't act on it though. Not very ready to hear from a therapist either smh😅
16:58 That’s crazy bc they did not give ANY context for that. She actually asked the producers to tell him to stop touching her without her consenting when he went to the bathroom bc she was uncomfortable af and he kept doing it without asking
I don't care if I'm trapped with the most attractive, charismatic, funny, intelligent, person in the world. 12 hours in a box with nothing but another person is insane.
This guy is Not socially unaware, or immature or whatever. He knows exactly what hes doing. Every single thing he does is pushing. Its upsetting to watch and difficult to put into words but this man sets off every single alarm bell I have. I don't know if what hes doing has a name, but its strategic and predatory. Gross men use this tactic as a lead up to SA. Hes learning what makes her uncomfortable and seeing how she reacts to those boundaries being pushed
He slowly pushes further and further till the producers have to step in or she gives a hard no. If they weren't there he would've kept going, trying to work his way around the nos. The thumb war is a perfect example. She said feet gross her out in the beginning and by the end he's pushed and prodded her into giving him a foot massage she's clearly has no desire to give. Men like this are dangerous.
I think it's the exact opposite. The problem is that he isn't aware of the fact he is taking up wayy too much space, not showing interest in her, pushing boundaries, etc. If we treat it like these people do it on purpose, it would assume they are aware of what they are doing. I think if they are aware of what they are doing we would see it a lot less. I think he thinks he's just using game to get closer to her and that this is what he should be doing. Not doing it on purpose doesn't absolve him of responsiblility, he is still being negligent in his actions, but it's important that people like this are educated or become aware some way or another so that they don't continue to act like this.
You're not a detective and could be way off the mark, she had 12 hours to get that impression and was free to leave and didn't... 🤷 You throwing around wild accusations is dangerous.
Idk fam, I tend to live by the idea that you should not ascribe malice to that which is adequately explained by ignorance. I definitely think it seems more than likely that he really is just unaware. This seems to be the case with a lot of men lacking the ability to interpret situations. Just look at how many of them will perceive any kindness or basic politeness as interest/flirtation - even from people like cashiers and waitresses whose JOB it is to be nice to them. I'm pretty sure I've also heard that studies show men tend to overestimate women's interest in them, while women tend to underestimate men's interest in them. Furthermore there seems to be a phenomenon where men think their advances are more wanted than they actually are because THEY would want those advances themselves. See how for instance women are bothered by catcalling and unsolicited compliments whereas men are often really excited by it, so they (sometimes, obviously not always) genuinely think they're doing something good because they themselves would appreciate being on the receiving end of the interaction. So like, yeah, I think it's entirely believable that he and men like him aren't pursuing some malicious goal, they're genuinely just unaware of how negatively their actions are perceived.
I liked this girl. She seemed like a good person. And she’s so pretty. She seemed genuine. Whoever she ends up with would be lucky. And I feel like SOMEONE out there has to have seen this video and be perfect for her 😂
Cody's so right abt farting on a date. Esp being in a BOX with the other person. My ass would be clenched the whole time. The mental and physical pressure bro.
Yeah there are SO many cool 2 player party games that would have made this so much more interesting and fostered interesting, complex discussions on topics like philosophy, politics, hobbies, etc. They really wanted this to be as painful as possible.
someone get the guy with the chest tattoo on this show because whoever could last 12 hours in a box with him talking about chest tats all day should win an award
I used to work for Khrystle! She was one of the sweetest coolest managers I’ve ever had. So surreal seeing her on here, I worked with her during the time this was filmed and had no idea
my ex boyfriend was JUST like this and it took 4 years post breakup for me to reflect back on the relationship without feeling sick to my stomach!!! I was even convinced I was asexual until I learned of relationship trauma lol
@@islabee94 in my opinion he didn’t understand when to stop pushing the topic of sex. also he’s not evil he’s just hypersexual and she’s not so it’s not a healthy partnership.
Of the numerous signs he had that he was fucking it up, the directors reminding him about consent has to be the most embarrassing and ridiculous. I really hope his shame helped him learn, and he sought out therapy lol
He needs to use it to self reflect 😅 and hopefully not to just improve on convincing the next nice lady to stay longer. He really said he knows he's a negative person- after all the ways she offered of looking on the bright side, finding small happinesses 😅 He really said - See I hear you! I need a therapist. I won't act on it though. Not very ready to hear from a therapist either smh😅
The way he kept putting his head on her lap and asking for foot rubs and kisses and shit…..I would’ve been so ashamed of myself if I were him. What bizarre and creepy behavior
Cody is literally the standard I wanna set for any guy I date he is so emotionally intelligent as well as just super traditionally smart as well. He is the blue print I swear 😭
Im so in love with everything this girl says and does. Shes so firm in her boundaries and i found a lot of joy in many of the things she said. She mentioned finding happiness in a lot of things, and i think ill try and apply this for myself. I hope shes having a great day.
I really loved her too. But she wasn’t very firm in her boundaries. She was obviously uncomfortable when he kept touching her but wasn’t able to tell him that. But I think that has more to do with women not wanting to “cause a scene” or “make other uncomfortable” despite women being uncomfortable. It’s a bummer she got paired up with a guy like that
she's my hero. There is no way I would have been able to say no when he dared to kiss because I'd be too afraid that I'd ruin the mood and be seen as a stuck-up *itch. That's why guys shouldn't put a girl in that position
@@aspenisthebestyou clearly have self esteem issues. You need to learn how to say f other people’s mood and what they say, when you are uncomfortable, you are uncomfortable. You should put your yourself first. I actually have this problem but I’m trying to unlearn it. You can try too. You actually have to because honey, there are so many evil people out there who would use you when they see you this way.
@monicaisreallycool3904 I saw another comment stating in the full video she asked the producers to tell him to stop touching her (while he was in the bathroom) so it's definitely because saying that stuff towards the person itself is nerve wracking
this was so brutal tho and an amazing example of how women are expected to shoulder men’s emotions and do it naturally and instinctually because it’s what’s always been expected of us. i’m sure he came out of there feeling refreshed while she left drained.
exactly. that’s why he kept liking her more and she kept liking him less. it was something new and exciting for him to be listened to and coddled for 12 hours, but for her it’s just another needy man. he didn’t really care about her or like her, he just liked that he got to tell her about himself and feel some kind of intimacy.
If that indeed were the case (him leaving refreshed and her leaving drained), that's literally just introvert vs extrovert things! As an introvert, hanging out for 10 hours on the usual with my BESTEST friends, leaves me SO drained I feel physically ill the next day, whether we talk about deep emotional shit or just random games/anime/everyday life shit, it still physically drains me all the same **shrug**
I love zade's editing SOOOO MUCHHH!! he really adds more fun to every video. and I am so happy that Cody lets him edit the way zade wants and add in jokes :)
HOW MANY HOURS DID THEY LET THIS POOR GIRL SIT IN THERE BEFORE TELLING HIM TO ASK PERMISSION BEFORE TOUCHING HER LMFAO Eta: for the record this comment was left because I thought it was funny - I don't think they're at fault, the girl was fully capable of using her words when she needed to which she did. I don't blame the producers at all and it's kind of crazy to. The end.
The fact that everytime he lay his head on her, her opinion of the date went down, should have been a hint, even if they didn't notice how uncomfortable she already was. Then not surprisingly after the Cut team stepped in her rating went up after he stopped touching her.
@@Alex-cw3rz ive noticed a few times that the team at Cut doesn't "cut" in soon enough when someone starts touching another person without consent or behaving innapropriately. They wait for a little longer than they should, and they leave the moments in the final video, which makes me think some aspect of that is exploitative.
@@WinWinWoo because imagine how awkward it would be to sit in a box for 10 hours after you got into a confrontation with him, that is why she didn't do it. "Can't read her mind" it's plastered across her face that she is uncomfortable.
I think it’s just funny that they decided to keep that footage in the final production of the video. They coulda told them privately but the editors decided to intentionally leave the clip in so it just looks like bro is going out sad ☠️
I hope he watches the 12 hour version in a year again..... He made even the thumb wrestling award n secsual let alone the foot things. He needs to use it to self reflect 😅 and hopefully not to just improve on convincing the next nice lady to stay longer. He really said he knows he's a negative person- after all the ways she offered of looking on the bright side, finding small happinesses 😅 He really said - See I hear you! I need a therapist. I won't act on it though. Not very ready to hear from a therapist either smh😅
I’m in shock how much he was falling for her, and pushing her to that direction too. It feels like getting to know a cool, honest, deconstructed woman who knows who she is and what she wants is so atypical for him. He even said it a bunch of times himself. It was pretty hard for them to connect at the same frequency. He felt a “True connection” because he was able to be genuine with her, while I’m certain she has this type of honest, vulnerable interactions with others, without needing to spend 12 straight hours with them to open up and share her feelings. Therapy is so important, folks, if you ever think you need to deal with traumatic shit that’s making your present life harder than it should, do not hesitate and ask for help. There IS a brighter, truer, and freer tomorrow where we can all be our most genuine selves.
*PSA* for the few guys I see wondering why the comments are generally against Kwan: Ninety percent of the problem is he just comes on too strong (shot at 10:00 says it all). I'd already be uncomfortable to be put in a small box with a stranger for so long, but if he kept on bringing the conversation back to sex/kissing and continually trying to initiate physical contact _despite no reciprocation_, I'd be at least a little bit scared. The impetus of the problem is a lack of chemistry that manifests in a cycle of her withdrawing and him overstepping, but the problem itself is the dude's inability (or disinterest) to gauge how she feels and adjust accordingly. Taken out of context, nothing he's doing/trying to do is inherently wrong or bad. There is nothing inherently predatory about being attracted to someone and wanting to further your relationship with them. You just have to make sure that they _enthusiastically_ want the same thing and *be okay with pulling back/walking away if they don't.*
She's so genuine and open because she's had a 5 1/2 yr before and he's only had a 10 month. Its not something thats ever talked about but theres a huge incompatibly with someone who's had a longterm relationship and someone who hasn't. Unless the short term person comes to have an understanding of the mindset the longterm person is coming from. And the longterm is able to make the adjustments needed and have the patience, though the short term person would have to be showing signs that they are mature enough. The long termer will be able to see right through them if they're not. The guy in this video is indicating this difference when he said she isn't like other girls he's dated. And how much he was able to be open with her because thats just what she's used to. So you can tell he's never dated someone whos been in a relationship for that long. And the first red flag for her was that he hadn't been in a long term relationship. That would be her biggest concern. And him laughing like he did when she said that was the worst thing the fool could had done. He cant put anything over her like he thinks he can. Relationship maturity level is not even a thing anyone mentions, at least not in this regard of length differences. And its something short termers don't even know exists. And they wouldn't even have the capacity and mindset to see how they lack maturity in that area, relative to the long term person. Long termers see the games short term people play like they're someone still in diapers. But if they can see signs that a person is responding and is wanting to be real, the long termer will have all the patients in the world for them, if they're genuine. So I guess the long termer has less if not zero tolerance for bs, but a way higher capacity to allow for the growth of their partner, if the partner is ready for it and on the same page.
I'm in a miserable stage of life under miserable circumstances, and i swear, this channel is the only one that can always makes me laugh like a hyena. Many thanks, Cody
the producer gets a gold star for telling this dude to keep his hands to himself. i was thinking that the whole time, he was sooooo touchy feely and not once did he ask for her permission, ick.
I imagine filming this was not a good time lol. I love her clear boundaries and also clear kindness. she just seems like a decent person. although he pushed some boundaries and maybe was a little immature he doesn't seem like a bad person and I hope he has managed to work on that stuff
Hearing Cody react to the girl's story about the facebook account made me realize I really want him to do a whole video on just reacting to r/AITA posts
I lowkey feel weird for not feeling that way now. I thought he was ok. Maybe I’m him? Please tell me some red flags of his behavior, just so that I can become a better person/dater?
@@jonaswolterstorff3460pretty much every time he touched her,l or scooted closer was weird. Given that it's such an uncomfortable circumstance to begin with, if I were him, I would have avoided touching her at all unless she initiated. Also, he wouldn't stop bringing up sex.
Also seemed like he hadn't really done a whole lot of introspection in his life. He didn't understand himself. He wasn't genuine because he couldn't be.
I asked that "bad sex" question to a Facebook group once hoping for stories like vomiting stories and it ended up being a bunch of assault stories.. that question can get really dark lol
Absolutely brutal. My guy doesn’t read body language well. The permission thing was only necessary because he seems clueless and is just taking shots in the dark. Everything about her demeanor is “I’m uncomfortable.”
You can’t tell me this guy wasn’t drinking in the bathroom LOL. Wanted alcohol, went to the bathroom twice and second time came back feeling waaay more cozy 😂
bro i had therapy for years and for the last year i started maturing and stuff and am still amazed by myself that i really became that woman i mever thought i could be. and i see so much of those traits in her and it feels great. reading those comments and the respect she gets and deserves, i wish that to anyone who feels small
Bro they need to bring that girl back for something if they haven’t already. She is SO cute with her lil giggles and I love how self aware she seems to be! Also, side note, I loved how the producer advocated to ask for permission before touching, but didn’t single the guy out. Everybody in the room understood why the producer said what he said, yet nobody got personally spotlit. Love that! Either of them very easily could have felt pressure to not say anything, but even MORE pressure than normal due to possibly being scared of getting judgement in comments and with a big camera in their faces. Props to the girl for (as far as I can tell) being herself, and to the producer! About the guy in the box, I think that he’s fine, just too emotionally.. loose? I guess is the word? I don’t know, childish? Just compared to her I dunno. She’s well spoken and eloquent- like she knows what she wants to say and she speaks it smoothly.. and he’s.. horny. Lol. Anyway, she seems like fun to be around. :)
what he's doing is literally boundary probing - consistently trying to see how far he can push it, and then making jokes to see what he can do and what she will outvertly reject.
I love how dude started braiding her hair, then the producers hit us with a time lapse like we were about to witness a master in his element, only to see homegirls hair was no different at the end of it. 😂
@@abc123you Doubtful, firstly because there are plenty of ways to braid hair effectively without hair ties, and secondly because wouldn't you think of that BEFORE you start messing with someone's hair?? 😅 Look, the way I see it, you simply don't mess with a woman's hair unless you A.) are in a relationship with them, B.) are close friends/family to them, or C.) are their hair stylist in a professional setting lol. I sincerely believe there are no other exceptions. 😂
honestly one of the most interesting videos i’ve seen from cut. i really want to watch the other one they did but there’s no way i will without codys commentary (cody pls do this again)
i love your videos so fricken much, i don’t watch as much youtube as i used to but everytime when of ur videos comes out i’m so excited to sit back chillax and enjoy
