We pull water services everyday at my company. We try not to pull through galv just for that reason it messes the cables up. But if you hook a chain to the galv and to the excavator and pull the cable at the same time it will save your cable. Sometimes it won’t pull the galv out though. Good video. It’s interesting the difference in materials in different regions areas. Here we only use sdr-9 out in the yard(pex). We call it bury pex. We don’t use copper in the ground anymore. Anyways awesome videos man keep up the good work
Yeah, we'll use poly sdr9 also, but this city required copper before the meter, since the meter is inside, we are required to use copper up to the meter. Thanks for the comment!
@@kcplumbingandrooter yea I noticed your meters are in the house. Our meters are at the property lines. Is the city responsible for that service to the meter from their main. The city here doesn’t take responsibility for anything utility after their meter.
Nice job that's really interesting watching that cable pull never tried anything like that, I have got lucky on pulling galvanized a short distance through sand with pex hooked up to the end it worked but I was surprised, but nice video and thanks again for taking the time to record hope you stay busy and pick up lots of new customers hope you have a good weekend.
Did the same thing. Destroyed a couple cables then found out about the other style grip. Works good now! Actually made my splitter myself on the lathe. Good job guys!
This was SO amazing to learn and it’s exactly what we need to have done! Very tired of rusty water staining everything! Thank you for making these vids…the new (to me) techniques are great!! New subscriber from the Hill Country in central Texas.
Ever wter line pull is different . If you put you hammer drill on the end of the pipe you a can break it loose from the soil, then put the cable through and pull the pipe instead of splitin it with a inverted cone on the cable.
I am surprised you pulled copper through that galvanized steel pipe. The steel is bound to contacting the copper in multiple places setting up galvanic action and causing failure due to the resulting corrosion.
Amazing.. the big question is does the customer see a significant cost savings also? As far as pulling grips go - i would recommend the Klein Model number 1684-5F. Its a straight grip, spring loaded. Which means once you put it over whatever your pulling, it’ll stay on from the spring tension it creates. You can also slide it forward, but not backwards without releasing the tension. You can also lock the jaws open by hold them open and flipping the pulling end up... Also - that particular grip has a file insert. Ive been a telco lineman for 20 years and those are the only ones everybody (that i work with) likes to use cause they dont slip at all.. not cheap, about $500 a piece but you can order them right from home depot. What youre pulling looks like more of a winch line, or wire rope, where we use it on strand - but i dont think youll have a problem. If you ever had a need for something stiffer, strand or guy wire / messenger wire (whatever the catalogs call it) may be another option you can use. 6.6m is like 1/4 inch, 10m is 3/8. 6000 and 10,000 pound breaking strength I believe.
This is what I do every day, you need to get a Klein cable puller. It grips a full 6” straight. The cable is considered consumable. We replace old type L 3/4” and 1” copper with type K. We replace 600-700 services a year, we go through them a lot. We don’t use mini-ex we use Cat 430 and a chain on the cable puller and pull with the cat backhoe bucket. Rather we extend the boom out reset and pull again. The winch would be sweet to prevent resetting but as you mentioned the Reed brand splitting bullet rarely splits copper or galvanized after its first pull. If you want part #’s of the puller or the bullet we use let me know I’ll add them to my comments. It feels good knowing you didn’t have to open cut the entire yard. We use 3/8” x either 60 or 100’ cable for 3/4 or 1” copper For 1” gal pipe we use 9/16” cable. Trick. If the copper ever pulls off the bullet figure your length of copper you are gonna need and feed it through the copper adding a 1’ and pull thru the new copper. I’ve done that a few dozen times if you get into gravel that’s normally where that will happen.
Yeah, right after this, I got the puller you are describing. There have been times where it twists the cable puller itself though, and renders it useless, that's when we're really pulling it with a lot of force. The gravel issue got us before with a poly line, it wouldn't let the pipe pull because the gravel would grip the pipe, and tore the poly off the wedge cone. It's a WheelerRex bullet, not a Reed(maybe they have one, too, i don't know) I've been thinking of using my pipe burst hyrdaulic system to pull on really difficult galiv lines. Feel free to reply with the part numbers, that could always come in handy thank you!!
Hey boss. If you are ever interested in moving to Canada let me know. We have a good outfit here in Vancouver, BC and are always looking for great guys to add to our team. Cheers.
It could be worse... I was working for a lawn sprinkler co with a team of 3 others installing sprinklers. Team leader running a machine to drag in pipe decided to ignore a marked gas min. "It will be deeper tthan the machine goes." Was his response when I pointedput the paint and flags. He cut a 6 inch gas main causing a large area evacuation...
Why are you direct burying soft copper rather than pulling poly? Or poly coated copper. Soak your cable in heavy oil or massage grease into it. It will pull around a bend with less damage to the cable as the strands slip in the twist. a rigging company may have a grease for cables.
Ive used PP on soft copper tubing before, just not comfortable doing it... seems like some type of stiffner should be used with it... Have never seen or heard of one..
That’s a nice pulling system. Thanks for sharing this video. Do you know where a person can purchase that puller system? The closest I have seen to a kit like that is sold by Spartan.
That’s exactly what I was wondering. There’s a gnarly ragged galvanised pipe, a constricted area, a beautiful new soft copper pipe and a HUGE amount of brute force. I figured if there was any rock or concrete along the way, it would all concertina up like a crash test vehicle.
while i agree that you should always ream/chamfer your copper, ive cut loose tons of 50+ year old copper with no reaming on ends and seems to be nary a problem.
@@kcplumbingandrooter What was the length of the galvanized that pulled out? I am going to try to pull 17' of 3/4 galvanized pipe with 3/4 poly hooked to the back end. No pipe bursting, just pulling the pipe out. I'm encouraged since your poor pulled out instead of splitting.
@@scottarnold8266 it was 35' ... It depends on what type of soil you have. We have some really tough clay that can be impossible to pull out or burst, but if it's a little damp, it comes right out. Sometimes a leaking galvi line really helps because it makes the ground wet
@@kcplumbingandrooter Pulled 20' of 3/4" galvanized pipe today. Took a strong winch on the pickup, but it came through and brought the poly pipe behind it. Didn't even need the cable that we threaded inside as a safety net, just pulled on the end of the pipe. Thanks for the video KC plumbing!!
@@kcplumbingandrooter I just find it a bit strange you are using a soft copper that can collapse easily! I’m from the uk where it is all plastic! Thick walled better insulation and better preventative of collapse
City requires it if the meter is inside the house. But recently I asked if we could use poly and they said they would rather copper but it would be ok if I used poly
@@kcplumbingandrooter thanks! We’re in Pennsylvania, do a lot of sewer and water service digs. Started looking into bursting kits for water/well lines. Appreciate the response
@@kcplumbingandrooter thanks brother! I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Supply houses Don’t sell the kits so I was trying to get as much info as I can before ordering a specific one
Interesting, I just watched a video this morning with a similar system for replacing a 4”cast waste line with pvc.Here's the video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IVfua-zLGhI.html
