Trenitalia's ROUGH RIDING Pendolino - Frecciargento ETR.485 First Class Review (Bologna to Roma) 

The cup holder behind the seat is very well thought out and very useful

I like the cupholder idea! Means you're less likely to spill any on the table, keeping it clean and freeing up space for other things, and no need to hold onto your drink when you're going round bends to stop it sliding all over the table 👍🏻

ETR 480 is pretty comfortable, probably the Bologna-Firenze line isn't the smoothest in italy, the same issue happen onboard the ETR 500 class which is one of the most comfortable hst train in europe probably. The 480 on Roma-Napoli wasn't bad for example!

Nice video! Never been yet on a different Pendolino than the ČD one (ETR 460) but I always thought that the ride is quite rough considering it's a flagship train but it never seemed THAT rough as seen on your video, I never spilled a cup of water for example even while snaking through a super hilly rocky terrain when the train fully tilts. People never realized that the ride quality is actually not that smooth until the mighty Railjet arrived (which provides probably the smoothest ride today, at least in a Central Europe).

Quick info: Trenitalia is replacing these ETR 485 with the ETR 610 (able to run also in Switzerland) and ETR 700 (High speed EMUS from the Netherlands) And "in exchange" they're refurbishing the ETR 485 and converting them to the AC current to give them to Greece

I love your vids and I hope you carry on. I'm a fan that will never leave you :D

I Like your videos I hope you had a great christmas and a happy new year and I look forward to seeing more of your videos in 2022

I enjoyed your video very much. It sounds like the ETR.485 unit you were riding in is due for a major overhaul ! Most ride very well, with few squeaks and rattles !

In 1994 the other version of those trains ETR 460 had tests in Poland and it could be the 1st Pendolino in Poland.

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Great video !!

I think you got a train that has been poorly maintained, because normally these trains are very comfortable, even if they have a certain age on their shoulders now. Nice video! :D

6:40 those Regionale coaches where you have to drag the doors open is pretty weird but also fun; could you please do a review of them?

These trains are being replaced by the infamous AnsaldoBreda V250 and ETR 600 and sold to Trenitalia's Greek business TrainOse where they will have a second life.

01:00 Omg, I traveled from Bologna to Venice on the Frecciarossa last October, and I was absolutely lost and confused in this pedestrian tunnel. The way doesn’t look at all like being the main way of how to get from the main station building to the high speed rail platforms, lol. And then suddenly there is this huge underground cathedral! So weird! 06:20 lol, wtf? The only pendolino I have traveled on is the one in the Czech Republic, which looks very similar like this one (both are 3rd gen pendolinos) but in my experience they were always very smooth, even in sections with bad/overused tracks. The pendolinos there go only up to 160 km/h though because of speed limits, so I don’t know how they would perform going 200+. Still, I’m surprised!

If only Alstom could of built the Class 390 Pendolinos for the East Coast Main Line. Just like the Class 390 that is currently operating on the West Coast Main Line. These Pendolinos are so beautiful and fast. I have been on the Class 390 Pendolino from London Euston to Birmingham New Street.

I took this train this may, on the Route Trento - Verona PN. Fortunately I get a Frecciarossa instead of this bumby pendolino 😂. The only sad note was that there is no high speed route between the 2 cities, so our top speed was only 118km/h (even cars on the nearby highway where faster 😕)

Brilliant.

Can you put the travel date either in the video or in the description please? Thanks.

Like the new video .Very much.

Very interesting journey! Enjoyed watching 👍

When showing the seat details you described the seats as 'brown' but on my screen the fabric and the plastic trims are blue! I noticed that other seats shown in the distance do seem brown. Weird or what!

I've been on this train a lot of times focusly for work the train itself is super comfortable and if your tired you will instantly fall asleep the service is good and the snaks and drinks too. Anyways only 1st class has trolley service. The only thing is that the train is very bumpy and shaky like the older sister etr 401 i really raccomend this train for medium-long trips👍

non sapevo fossero ancora in circolazione i pendolini di sto modello

The appalling (ok, maybe I exaggerated) ride quality might be because of not much suspension and the design of the bogies; the most recent train I rode in Italy was the ETR 500

It's technicaly/build-wise still a tilting train for higher performance on classic curved lines through the mountains(Ancona-Roma f.expl.). Even the tilting mode has been disabled it'll never reach HS-stability ... and therefore a poor service on such lines. So - the ETR 500 is the better successor to the decent gran comfort class on the Direttissima.

unfortunately the ETR 485s rough ride is so to the fact that those trains are 30 years old now! they are from the early '90s and they start to feel the age! in the 90s they were very good but today we have a lot of more modern technologies for damping vibrations. and just a clarification. technically the ETR 675 Italo Evo is not a Pendolino, even though it is part of the "New Pendolino" family. the ETR 600-610 Frecciargento is the last Pendolino to be built for high speed railway in Italy. there's simply no profitable need anymore as we have built and keep building new high speed lines that don't require this type of hardware. so yeah, the 675 not technically a Pendolino cause it runs mostly on high speed track now. Great video tho!

Exactly the same sorts of ride problems as the old intercity APT. Much of the technology was sold to Italy when the APT project was scrapped. It was the quality of ride and motion sickness that doomed the APT and I don't imagine these pendolino sets to be any different.

Unfortunately I have to watch the video 2 times because it's impossible to read and watch at the same time.

Confusion! You state Bologna Centrale has 23 platforms with 19 at surface level and remainder underground yet when we get below what do we see? Platforms 18 and 19!

good trip report if you think bologna centrale is a labyrinth you have not seen the likes of bank/monuement station and whilst the train might look nice if it is badly rattling it could be down to poor design ir age which in that case it shouldnt be used on high speed routes

Please can I see a scotrail hst review Edinburgh to inverness soon :)

Can I ask when this was filmed? I went to bologna not too long ago via train.

Same mean windows as the British Pendolinos. At least the seats line up with the windows in the standard class vehicle.

good job :)

Would you travel on a class 385 in Scotland, I've been on one from Neilston to Glasgow CTRL and the train is amazing

A highly GIRTHY armrest? Where did you get that word from?

Can we have a drip report please?

Very Nice super video

Can’t see this one making my bucket list and I’m not picky, just nothing going for it

But is it rougher than an 800?

Pendolino was never a smooth runner. Especially not in the first two generations (ETR 485 belongs to the second). It became a little better in the third (ETR 600 / SBB Astoro / PKP EIP) and fourth (Italo EVO) generation, but it still lacks the air suspension, which is incompatible with the tilting technology.

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Mögen sie den etr 485 nicht.

the connection between ground level and underground tracks is embarrassing! a real disaster in terms of design and intuitivity… and the underground station itself is a missed opportunity in terms os design and services

So much plastic waste!