That's because there's nothing for him TO handle. This interviewer was really trying to force him into a logic hole about how his reinforced observations on race and equality and comedy could and should be nullified because they MAY not match anyone else's. Trevor did what he does best. Enforce the commonalities, push the narrative that we are all going in this roller coaster ride a little differently, but we're all in the same cart. This interviewer really seems to want to disseminate rather than allow for joy. Lot of easy to break straw man accusations from her. Then again this feels like this was done at the peak of social media craze to bring everybody down, so...
Sorry. He's talking riddiles to not take ownership of his 'comedy' as it is interpreted by those people who have both covert and overt racist thinking...
She was almost unbearable. I was only able to finish the video because Trevor Noah handled her with such grace and patience. We can all learn something from him.
“Almost”? She is definitely unbearable 😂. I carried out listening the interview till the end because of Trevor intelligent replies, not because of her constant interruptions. Is she aware Trevor is a humorist???
The problem is apartheid wasn't about Black South Africans only. That's the perception around the world. It was about non whites. White and non whites. We were all victims ...and I don't use this word lightly. We were oppressed in so many ways. If only I could tell you my experience living in Apartheid South Africa. It could be a lengthy discussion. A book in the making. 🤔
More than that, it was about Racists vs non racists. Even if you were white and anti-racist you could end up in solitary confinement and tortured. Even if you werent white, and were proracism, you could work for the Apartheid govt. Some notable examples: The entire Mandela soccer club was spying on Mama Winnie for the Apartheid government. Whereas Bram Fischer spent his life in prison.
I could not have remained as calm as he was. There is just something about Karens that grinds my gears, from the FIRST word out of their mouth. It's hard to believe that it only took 3 years to completely bring out some people's psychiatric deficits.
I understand what he meant, but the word he ought to have used was inferred. I used to mix imply and infer up for most of my life, then I learned the difference: •implying is done by the person speaking or carrying out an action, and what they imply is the unspoken message they intend the recipient(s) of the words or action to understand. •inferring is done by the person hearing someone else’s words or affected by someone’s action, and what that recipient infers is the unspoken message they perceive from those words or that action. In other words, to imply is to intend an unspoken message, to infer is to perceive an unspoken message. There is a huge difference between the two things, and room for a miles-wide chasm of misunderstanding between the intent and the perception.
I have been asking myself the same question. This woman seems to be prejudiced against Trevor even before the Interview. Actually Trevor is the most coolest Person that's why he's always calm. Had it been me this Interview would've ended before even starting.
She wasn't listening to understand, she was attacking, accusing, interrupting and interrogating Trevor. Loved the way that he calmly and graciously warded off her biased agenda.
Trevor, you make me proud as a fellow South African. This woman has such a huge chip on her shoulder and is trying to goad you into an argument. You kept your cool and had an excellent answer for each and every come back.
This is HIS life! HIS story! HIS testimony! Why does HE have to change HIS story to satisfy others concept!!! Thank you for your intelligent correction of this uncalled for interview!
Strangely enough I watched another Trevor Noah interview where he was asked about how he interviews those who are diametrically opposed to him and his answer was that he tries to listen
Her other motives were the reason for this interview. Create a difference between people and make him look bad. Create a great title about it and sell it. Not have a notion of nuance and context. You can see she actually agrees with Trevor, but in het role she is not allowed to be persuaded.
She is not interviewing him, she is berating and trying to subject him to her agenda…thankful that Trevor had the intelligence to subtly bulldoze through her shenanigans!
Too true! This BBC journalist is cross-examining him like a prosecuting attorney. Her energy is negative & hateful & destructive. I have listened to Trevor for years, and his words bring life, and hope, and love.
@@LeMaqnifique Trying to destroy America? Seriously? The only thing destroying America is cancel culture and the agenda of hate, racism, hypocrisy and censorship pushed by the liberal Left.
I love how he explains how "differences" can be beautiful, can be used to celebrate...he puts it beautifully! She was trying so hard to trip him up! He did a great job in defending his comedy and points
I'm not so sure. I don't think just because she is asking hard questions that she's personally out for him. Interviews like these imo are important because they give people like Trevor the opportunity to articulate why they do what they do and where they see their boundaries. Sure, she pushes hard, but that's her job. Without her exaustive probing, we wouldn't have heard Trevor expressing his beliefs the way we have here.
i mean look at another continent, asia even a part of it, south east asia, people look, talk and act different. its a difference of culture and its not inherently a bad thing
Legit!! She interrupted him so many times. Yer every time Trevor let's her speak without interrupting her once. Love his comedy and he's brilliant on UK panel shows like 8 out of 10 cats.
People show signs before attacking. If someone tells you "what do you have to say for yourself?" It's a sign that they are ready to attack be ready, they already think you are guilty of something.
I am so impressed by his patience and ability to control his temper. I've had some experiences like this. When this happens I have to cling to my values for dear life. In the end, I'm usually victorious. Even tho I still took a verbal and mental beating. I admire him cuz he doesn't just refrain from getting mad at her and snapping back, he responds with genuine kindness and seems to not have any feelings of anger to hold back much at all. He's been through so much, so I honestly believe that helped mold him into the person he is now. It's strange to me how hard things can often make us into better people. This man inspires me very much.
She's rudely cutting him off constantly. He skillfully debates her and shatters her false pretenses. Salute to Trevor. Always in control. A great Debater.
Well said. Trevor is an incredibly intelligent gent who always remains composed when he teaches. His example about context, using Rihanna's song 'umbrella' was legendary alone! That was art what he did there. 👏🏻
@@ktolwal Don't worry - you'll find plenty of insufferable 'intellectual' middle class women in the US, Australia, Europe, NZ, too. Privileged and virtue-signalling - yet somehow 'victims' at the same time.
The difference between reacting to your emotions and actually thinking logically before making value judgements is on full display here, and it is quite stark.
People like her let people finish speaking, only if they are saying what she wants to hear. If she asks a question, and within a few syllables, it's clearly not going her way, she just talks over them.
Agreed. Might be too used to interviewing politicians who avoid answering the question, so not used to letting the interviewee speak. Expected more from her.
It's called being a journalist. No matter who they are interviewing it's their job to put tough questions to which ever public figure they are interviewing. It's America where news is entirely opinion and for ratings so that they can sell you products where hosts (not journalists) do puff pieces to enhance the reputation of celebrities or politicians. BBC news is less of a business, it's how news used to be in the US a long long time ago.
@@user-vn6jw4fc6h okay so. When someone asks you a question, pauses to give you the signal that it's your turn to respond... And then cuts off your response and says "you didn't let me finish"... We call that moving the goal post in a debate and is usually seen by those who don't like to admit they're wrong or have an agenda that who they're debating with isn't helping play into.
She is the oerfect example of “I’ll ask the questions, listen to your answers but only hear what I agree with, and understand what conforms with my pre-dispositions.”
I just thought Noah was a pretty face with an appreciation for humor and humanity who just happens to have a gift for gab.Noah is such an intellect. She is throwing out verbal attacks and he is making sense of it all. Love you NT!
“every single joke has a context, every joke comes from a place. the most important thing in comedy is context. without context no conversation is complete” that quote will age like fine wine
@@levimashonga7018 that's exactly it. When educated people think they know everything, their ego rises up. As a person of colour herself, it's actually quite sad that she thinks his jokes are to degrade his own ethnicity, while I think it does the opposite. It also shows other ethnicity to appreciate who they are and where they come from. I hope she finds peace in that. :/
I almost didn’t click on this because I’m tired of people crying about cancel culture, but I’m glad I did because it wasn’t really about that. It was just a conversation where Trevor eloquently explained the context and meaning of his words that she and probably many others didn’t understand. It’s an interesting conversation that I think was worth listening to.
Badawi is a fairly heavyweight interviewer, she is debating with him in order to expose his obvious wit and intelligence. She's on TV a lot in the UK and she is OK.
@@elishachristopher7366 Zeinab's a race baiter? You don't watch UK TV. You literally don't know who she is. Get tae fuck. Anyone who's a fan of Bill O'Reilly & that d'Souza idiot is a far right wanker in my opinion en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeinab_Badawi
Nah no need to kiss ass just because you’re a fan. As an African I have known Trevor for many years before he moved to America and y’all got to know him. He used to do some VERY offensive jokes. That was his style. He moderated when he got to Comedy Central because of the crybaby cancel culture in the US but that’s the type of comedian he used to be. I’m not mad at it because I do believe comedians should be allowed to be a little offensive..that’s the whole fun for me. But don’t act like this woman’s questions are not valid. All Trevor needed to say was that he has evolved as a comedian and is in a different place now that warrants a different approach to his comedy. That’s the correct answer. But he bamboozles y’all with big grammar and y’all are like “wooow he’s right” lol. This man has gone after conservatives in the US for saying far less offensive things. There is no difference between his chocolate joke and the other guy’s leaking chocolate joke no matter how much he tries to explain with fancy grammar.
Girl yes! Within the first 2 minutes I thought, or she's coming at this the wrong way. Then she was being comparative without being factual; and considering it was an "interview" she would not let him finish a single response without interrupting. He did an AMAZING job maintaining his composure and still listening to her, even though she was clearing spewing. 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 He is calm and collective in every single interview I've ever watched him in!
Watching Trevor handle these infuriating questions is magical. His poise and control and ability to correct without getting angry or annoyed is so impressive.
@@crazylittlepartytifs I was thinking the same thing! She was abrasive and constantly cut him off. She seemed intent on annoying him but Trevor remained so cool 😎
@@DrSwyts it's like a master class of dealing with someone who is hell bent on taking you down.. there are so few people who can do that without reacting poorly in some way (which is of course the intention behind the assault)
I love how she asks a question and then interrupts his answer when she doesn't like it. Oy. Well done, sir. You handled that nonsense with grace and poise.
She probably prepped him ahead of time and told him how she needed to be to satisfy the higher ups. They probably pushed her to do this interview and she thought better me who can give him a head’s up than someone who is truly out to get Trevor. Just my guess I guess
I hate that she refused to let him finish when she realized he was able to beautifully navigate her line of questioning and didn’t fall into her traps. LET HIM FINISH, he let you finish!
well, that's the thing, she isn't interested in actually having an intelligent conversation, she only wants to belittle and accuse him and generalize all sorts of things as "racist" much of which, in context, is far from it.
Yeah, she has no journalistic integrity, she might as well not exist as far as I'm concerned from now. I won't watch her again, regardless of the story. I'm surprised she didn't break out the waterboarding table and get it over with. And I'm not even that fond of Noah, but that was just wrong.
She is a terrible interviewer. Constantly cutting him off, constantly trying to direct his answer to aline with her narrative, and then visibly getting frustrated when he doesn't comply with her. An absolute bottom feeder.
That’s how these people work. They know they’re hypocrites, but by calling out others for their wrongdoings, they are seen as the “better” person. It’s disgusting
wow, Trevor - what an intelligent and mature way if handling seemingly tough questions. You stuck to your sentiments, clarified your position and the nuances in the situations
Her continued attempts to interrupt him mid-point in an effort to try twist his words for her gain was infuriating. He showed true grace throughout this interview.
This was a masterclass in how to handle a terrible interviewer. Trevor Noah kept his cool and articulated his points with refinement and civility. More people need to watch this.
The same thing I said. I went my entire life believing I was mostly African because in America if you have dark skin you are African. Two years ago I recently learned that my grandmother wasn't even black she was Creole Indian parents had migrated from Brazil. No one believed her when she said she wasn't black. Then I learned my grandfather wasn't all the way black but mixed like my kids. My children are mixed with black and white and on their birth certificates it says black and they don't even look it. This is what America is.
I do not agree with him politically, but i absolutely am in love with the way he kept his composure and defended comedy. Thank you for defending comedy and its wonderful medicinal benefits.
It strikes me that as someone who grew up in a racially divided society, responding to aggression with aggression would have been an easy way to get into serious trouble. He knows the importance of appearing completely nonviolent to people who are looking for excuses to label him as the opposite.
@@rickpaul8012 He's not censoring anyone though. He explains his views and let's others explain theirs. Freedom of speech is everyone's right to speak freely, as much as it is everyone's obligation to let others do the same. We just forget to listen, sometimes. If you think Trevor is a hypocrite, that's fine, it's your point of view. But if there's no explanation attached, it's just an empty accusation.
Because he's so far above her in intellect and the thought he gives to what he says he's not threatened by her. He gets a ton of credit for treating her with the respect she doesn't deserve.
Because then you’re a Shapiro. He stood by it and look at the result. Everyone is in agreement she’s a snake. There’s no spinning it to him not taking criticism. He took it told her she’s being stupid and she was an indignant bitch about it.
The interview is edited for TV. It's the editor that's cutting him off. Notice they never are speaking at the same time, even though it appears she interrupts him; he's not still speaking when it cuts to her talking.
@@DannewK There are black and white people who wish to keep the 'African' label attached, and in both cases it's racist when you really get down to the core of it all.
That was an interrogation, not an interview. What a terrible interviewer. She doesn't understand comedy at all and is trying to make his jokes controversial. They're jokes.
@Temüjin Khan not all comedians are like that. Maybe he reads from a script but he makes those scripts. If he reads from a script the anyone can be a comedian
Some jokes that seem to be racially insensitive are actually poking fun at racists by pointing out racial stereotypes. Comedians have more power than politicians do when it comes to shining a light on social injustice.
She's turning his jokes into political statements without the context in which the jokes were told. She's an example of media trying to demonize successful people
Exactly! Well said 👍🏽 This is so stupid how serious she takes this. I’ve heard racist jokes about many races and my own…and I don’t even get offended when it’s in a joking matter Noah was just joking and this woman constantly interrupting and was so annoying in the conversation. I can name several illogical fallacies she used to try and practically debate on what Trevor said (which by the way Noah won all the way) 😁. The ones off the top of my head she committed where straw man, red herring, ad nauseam, and appeal to motive. If she’s trying to right in this debate (which is what it practically is at this point)…she definitely didn’t win at all. Noah did for sure 😎 WAY TOO GO TREVOR!! 👏🏽😎
Also one last thing She talks and acts like if black people are the ONLY ONES that go through racism. It doesn’t just happen to black people (I mean everyone needs to be treated equally no matter what color you are. But black people aren’t the only ones that suffer racism. It happens to more than just black folk)
@@sonofkrypton9912 don't muddy the waters guy.... Black folks don't take away from other cultures struggles, in fact most of us stand for all peoples struggles, to include white people...
@@BrooklynNY1979 That’s not what I meant at all I’m not saying black folks do that but it sure looks that way at times. Sorry I didn’t specify 😁. I don’t care for politics or so but I just hated the rude behavior of this lady and how she spoke as if black people are the only ones suffering. I wasn’t trying to muddy the waters so my bad if I came out that way I hope I didn’t offend you and sorry if so 🤭
Points for his incredible patience. He listens intently and still answers thoughtfully and seriously even after being interrupted over and over. Mad respect.
Yes, he got quieter and quieter with his answers, and more pointed and serious with each interruption. She was race-baiting, and trying to catch him making mistakes. She made the mistake of underestimating him!
Exactly what I thought when I watched it. Normally I've great respect for BBC interviewees but this was an outright ambush. She had a point she wanted to make and had no intention of allowing him to explain his point of view.
She is the best example of people that have no clue what context means. It’s so impressive how Trevor handles this conversation calm and constructive! He has a mind blowing intellect.
Good joke and in Canada black Asian Indian Jamaican..etc are all...... Canadians :) it is a real thing. We ask where are your roots, or where is your family from if we want to know or understand someone because ppl here come from all over the globe
“He’s Lenny Henry, I’m Trevor Noah.” “But you’re both black.” She reduced the pair of them down to nothing more than their racial identity. Isn’t that racism? Seeing people for nothing more than the colour of their skin?
I’m thinking more reducing a skin color down to a set of beliefs, actions, and worth is more racism but RIIGHT? This was hard to watch. Maybe she was intentionally playing devil’s advocate but yeah, as an American black person, this was hard to watch.
Well done Trevor! Expert in calm delivery... Far more patience than I would have, she clearly wasnt listening and wasnt there for understanding or debate, she had her mind made up and her script was set.
She wasn't that infuriating in fact, as she applied some journalistic tactics in her interview but unfortunately to the wrong person, who's way smarter than her. And also, her constant interruption of Trevor's words was inappropriate and annoying indeed.
She interrogated him, her own feelings about being black that she hasn't dealt with came through. You need to heal lady.. "When you don't heal, you bleed over the innocent." Trevor, handled it like a boss!
And you know what shout out to you Trevor Noah keep on preaching you have an ability to remain intelligent thoughtful well-spoken and calm all at the same time I wish I had the ability to control myself like that
@@qasimahmed3301 which is exactly why this is a interview. Yet, asking something and not letting the other person answer, barely qualifies as an interview. In fact, it qualifies with a debate, which is almost a monologue. So... She should stfu more often and let other people speak, otherwise it's a goddamn monologue.
He has no ideal what he's talking about, what a misinformed clown. People from the Caribbean were dropped off just like African Americans. Please learn your history before having discussion about issues..
@@bf1822 ummm….you realize that Africa and the Caribbean are two different parts of the world. Yes both areas where enslaved and shipped to America, but they are two different culture. You tried to troll him for not “being educated” and instead you just showed your own lack of it. Good job. Lol
When you are losing the argument, you have to interrupt. Otherwise the person you are interviewing will actually get a chance to answer the question you asked. We can't allow that.
@@ReverendTFunk wow so tru, this happen to me in my class. We had a feminist speaker come in talk, she started her class and pointed to a student with full makeup and cute dress and said ***you are oppressed*** then went on and on about how when we are dress to girly then we are catering to men. So when question period came up I said she went too far to assume that makeup equal oppression , and did not correlate together. As we went back and forth on some of points she made which were in my opinion ridiculous and horrible and quite limited , she interrupted me non-stop I could not finish a sentence. One thing she said also was ** giving birth is the deformation of a woman's body to for another person , ie male need for continuing his lineage*** 🤣🤣🤣🤣 cause she would not give any room to finish my sentences I finally got fed up and ask her does she love her birth mother for choosing to satisfy her dad? Does she hate her dad for forcing this concept on her mother? and that's when I got in trouble.🤣🤣🤣 I mean at that time I did not understand the term baiting, glad he was able to avoid her direction of this interview and stand firm.
This is the job of narrative based media, which is all corporate legacy media. They have a narrative to push to appeal to their base, and the truth is irrelevant. The easiest way to spot it is this: They ask a question. If the person responding flails and doesn't have a sufficient answer, let them go on for as long as possible so that they completely make a fool of themselves. BUT if they start making a good point (as Trevor did) try to cut them off and move to the next question. It's the easiest tell-tale sign to spot the difference between independent journalists looking for the truth as you see in podcasts and some youTube channels, and hacks looking to push a narrative as you see in Network television interviews. And it doesn't matter what side it's on, conservative or liberal.
As Jordan Peterson noted, all discussions of any substance will offend people. If we eliminate all possibly of offense, there will be no useful discourse.
I am mixed race of white and African decent, raised by my biological white English mother and a French white stepfather in the 1970s. We were bullied by other children in the playground who wanted to know why we were ‘coloured’ (that was the term in the day) my mother told us that when she had me and my sister she had a craving for chocolate drops and when she had my younger (half) sister who is white she had a craving for milk chocolate drops! We were never bullied again in the playground and everyone accepted that explanation. Growing up with racism in England was difficult in the 70s and 80s when appallingly even adults felt it was acceptable to shout out racist names at children! Thankfully that changed and although we know there is an undercurrent of prejudice affecting many aspects of our lives, it is well hidden behind masks of decency and fairness. I have survived because I am proud of being a strong black woman who understands the valuable contributions of black people throughout the history of Europe and America - none of which would be ‘Great’ if it was not for the human trafficking and vile abuse that took place during the forced slavery of African people.
Profession? They have all been for cancellation of anyone that doesn’t agree with them. *now* he’s gonna stand up? He should have been doing it from the getgo.
@@morganleigh9569 he doesn't have to fight anybody though... He shouldn't stand up to brainless people like this interviewer here and many other people that hate him for his work... Being a comedian is a profession, because it makes him money. Anything that makes you money and you good at it, is a profession just like teachers, firefighters and many more... 🤧 It's just that people are brainless to think like that because they're clouded by their hatred for people who are doing better than them in their lives... 🤧
@@earthwormsim8068 Hell yea People of the darkest and lighest skin colors can learn so much from each other about different slices of life Notice someone’s color for the sake of accepting and embracing differences between one another
I was also so impressed and touched by this sentence. I had that thought subconsciously and when he said it, I had a short moment of enlightment! I got the impression, that this whole post modernism and woke culture is seeing the world through a lense of hatred and disbelieve. They seem to have a just a very bad attitude, that nothing good can develope where they're not forcing it to. As if humanity (or in some sense white humans) was thoroughly bad, and it's all driven by some conspiracy that's going on in every single mind (or "white mind"). This is already getting too long😅 So to summon up: they seem to think every white person is a monster with having only in mind to put itself above every other race. And that every other "race" was just to incompetent to withstand that oppression.... And that seems very racist and unfair to everybody on this planet.
I am very glad to have a chance to experience a person quite like Noah here. Differences are what makes the world. Don't try to cancel and censor them. Celebrate them.
No disrespect Trevor but the funniest part of that is when she said your the same colour. First thought reeeeallly. Keep doing what your doing probably wouldn't even read this but not sure that lady hasn't looked in a mirror
@@dannya-o7067 I love how she's English trying to create controversy based upon Americanisms... There are culturalisms that aren't understood unless you're part of that culture. Trevor has become. She's chasing controversy. (aka: I agree)
