The prosecutor briliantly uses her vanity to demonstrate how rational she is. More interested in her past accomplishments than the consequences of her terrible actions. Textbook psychopath.
@@katjaxxx7353 is sadist the same as sadistic ? I thought that the one where they get off was masochistic...I'm not sure ...on my way to dictionary rite now...lol
Being magna cum laude in law, she sure did f**k herself on stand, in this entire whole situation. She thought with law background she'd outsmart the lawyers & jury
I agree. Her narcissism, lack of empathy, willingness to throw her son who helped with the abuse under the bus…all of those things look a lot like psychopathy, at least to my untrained eye
True but we are forgetting: medical doctors, psychiatrists & scientists are smart too but only in their field. I don’t think she’s that smart, overall.
The way she lit up, explaining how educated and how smart she was, and how she can decipher her education will indeed incriminate her. She’s digging her own hole she knows right from wrong. Pure evil
@jackiebaumgart611 I sure hope she wasn't hurting the dogs. It just occurred to me that she probably lied about nerding the dogs as service dogs, knowing her history with her children. She was extremely controlling with her dogs. In one of her videos on opening a Kong membership box, Gemini her Great Dane is quiety playing with a new ball, you can hear him, he's not doing anything. Yet she repeats 5 times at least "I'll take that ball away from him because I have to work on a brief" 🙄 5 times!!! in like 15 minutes!!! She also gets mad at him for nudging the camera when SHE has placed it on the floor to film her video!!! Gemini was huge, her house was cluttered floor and all but she gets pissed off. She has another video at a beach where the dogs are having fun and go maybe 10 meters from her but she calls them back... repeatedly. Yeah she's a total freak. In case you don't know about it her dog channel is called "Law clerk through a service dog's eyes." Not, "Loving Mom of 5 with a dog..." But I digress... 👋🌠
Exactly she remembers ALL details of HER achievements. I can say fs reason she couldn't enroll school (if she'd wanted to) or a doc, wasn't not getting stuff sent, but cos she wasn't meant 2 have contact, nvr mind sole custody. I've got mh conds inc CPTSD & dissasossion doesn't work that way. U hear ppl on trial say they've got huge parts of memory lose, but you don't just lose memory. It's specific trauma memories that you're brain tries 2 protect u from by not being recalled. But it's always patchy. And related to you're own trauma. Not at all how she describes it. Sickening hearing about the dog, in case she got low blood sugar. Absolute monster.
@@OSDEMING yes but she’s lying. She knew her son was an unhealthy weight, she starved him on purpose. Its not credible that she couldn’t see how unwell he was given the text messages, her preventing the grandparents from seeing him, and her coming up with this hunger strike ridiculousness.
So she has a condition that she can faint if she doesn’t eat and then she starves her kid? Definitely she is well aware what she was doing to Timothy was going to cause him a great deal of suffering. She had no love for him and didn’t care at all. The poor chap was a bother to her.
Everything about her screams narcissistic and manipulative. Even down to her sweet little braids. She’s not fooling me with her ‘yes sir, no sir, I can’t remember sir’ 🙄
The prosecutor is doing an excellent job of showing how fast thinking,clear and confident she is when talking about herself and anything she feels helps her case.
Her facial expressions show her contempt. Her eye rolls and the way she tilts her head when she’s annoyed with certain questions. Her body language screams narcissistic and sadistic tendencies. She is definitely NOT used to being “questioned”.
She works 12 hours a day assisting judges but when she walks into her home her mind is mush and she can't remember anything. She is HORRIBLE. She blames everybody but herself. The judge needs to give her the maximum. How dare she blame her ex husband, her son Paul and Timothy who she killed. I can't wait under she is crossed examined.
The detail she goes into in explaining her hypoglycemia like anyone gives a shit . Like no one cares lady . Make sure she won’t pass out. No one cares . You didn’t care about your sons blood sugar . She said she had a special dog to alert her when she needs to boost her blood sugar . Yet her son is given frozen chicken nuggets and hot sauce and bread . The level of sadism in this case is staggering. Like she built herself up pretty big ; lit up when she talked about HERSELF, yet couldn’t remember anything she said or did when it came to abusing her child . Rot in jail lady . Have fun
LET'S JUST CUT TO THE CHASH HERE EVERYONE....THIS WOMAN IS GUILTY OF MURDER AND WILL BE GIVEN LIFE IN JAIL WITH NO CHANCE OF PAROLE. SHE IS A DANGER TO SOCIETY. GUILTY GUILTY AND GUILTY.....DONE AND DUSTED....I'M NOT A JUDGE BUT I'M A MOTHER AND SHE IS AN AWFUL CRUEL UNJUST SO CALLED 'MOTHER'...⚖️
I call it guilty as sinned. I mean what did she expect? That she was going to get away with it...I guess that's the part in law school she must have not really paid no mind too
She sure can remember fine when it comes to anyone else or her ailments and maladies but can’t remember a thing about the murder of her own son who she STARVED to death. Unbelievable. The prosecution played her like a fiddle.
She has a bath big enough for a teenager to be forced into ice baths, but it’s not big enough for a dog (who is a similar size to a teenager) so she wouldn’t even think of it??? What a liar!
Her eyes lack empathy, and she's not even nervous or anxious. She calmly and cunningly avoids responsibility when she responds to his questions, in a matter of fact way, to the most horrific allegations. On the psychopathy scale she's probably a fairly high score in the sadism part.. She has the gaze of an empty, self-important sadist. Very chilling.
I agree with everything you say except I see her as being extremely nervous. What with being a sadistic psycho and all. And knowing they know the truth about this situation, since it's mostly recorded.
I honestly can’t imagine the level of neglect and pain this child suffered during his life. Where on earth were family members and other people to intervene on behalf of him? Rest in peace ❤️🙏
She takes complete responsibility for all of her grades and accomplishments, then throws her son under the bus when it comes to the severe abuse she stammers and is confused. Its so infuriating and sickening. I mean starving a 14 year old to death isnt easy. Long and painful. Prison should look good on her. Perhaps she and Alex Murdough can start a law business behind bars.
She can remember that she missed one item on the logical reasoning at test of the LSAT she took ten years ago, but can’t remember all the ways in which she abused and tortured her son? Yeah, right. Very believable.
@@privatepile762kind of offensive to people with PTSD that still feed our kids. Walmart delivers groceries for free. She doesn't look as thin as her children. I was told mom eats after her kids. She fed her dogs first as well. I feel like there's a special place in hell for her. My bad
Yes she had no problem throwing Paul under the bus. Everything was his idea as if she was the child and he was the parent. She is incapable of loving anyone but herself. That 8 year old or her disabled husband would’ve been next
Love how she’s acting so very excited to talk about her education experiences in the beginning. “They for sure will see how smart I am , therefore I could never do anything harmful “ I look so freakin smart and analytical
Tearing up when she was asked about foster care. Living with her was obviously a nightmare that killed him foster care probably would’ve saved that poor young boy.
Don’t forget, she’s also up there with Jodi Arias and Shayna Hubers. All of the women you listed and including these two, are all known to be above average intelligence, and narcissists. They are clever, quick, very well articulated, etc.. That’s why it can be scary to the average trusting person. They tend to fall for their BS!
YES... he was very methodical on how he questioned her, I loved his technique. Like you said, he knew he could use her vanity get her talking about herself and feeling confident then lay it all out. Also feeling like she gained all kinds of sympathy from the jury for all her so called medical and mental issues when he was just trying to make points, she couldn't see how she was coming across bc she is so caught up in herself. Not maternal AT ALL.
I don't know how she could sit up there and have nonchalant conversations after what she did her son. Definition of a sadistic narcissist. I love watching her slip like when she remembers the first time she did the ice bath, threw water on him and other incidents but then goes blank 🙄🙄🙄🙄 good try you horrible human. So many failed him, the stepmom seemed to care more than anyone based on the jail phone calls with Paul. She took him off the meds because it made him a zombie but couldn't stand when he did anything!?! She couldn't get refills because she was never supposed to have custody of that child.
No, the brother is almost as terrible as the mom. He was working full time as a dishwasher at Applebees when this was all happening. He don't have to listen to his mom when she told him to torture his brother. I'm sure he was stuffing his face with that Applebees food while his brother slowly starved to death. He could've asked soooo many ppl for help but didn't.
Her service dog made sure he did everything he could do so she wouldn’t die, and she did everything she could do to make sure her own son WOULD die….but she doesn’t recall. She may be extremely educated but she’s severely lacking in intelligence. She doesn’t even realize what the prosecutor just proved with his line of questioning, in regards to her education and work history. She passed the bar exam, but we’re all to believe that she doesn’t have the ability to retain and recall information?? That’s hysterical!
It's amazing with all her issues with PTSD, Blackouts etc..obviously that meant she didn't understand that she needed to feed her Child to keep them alive. Somehow the moment the Prosecutor starts asking questions about her Law Degree and what a high level achiever she was she became really excited, she sat up started smiling and explaining how great she is then seemed to completely forget about what led her to be sitting on that side of the desk during Her Trial. Disgusting watching Shanda but I'm glad the Lawyer slipped in the bit about remembering to at least Feed her Plants.
This is obscene. No idea how she believes taking stand and responses are going to be believed. Doesn’t remember sending texts, all is Paul’s idea never tried hot sauce because she has weak stomach and didn’t want to throw up. 😤. This prosecutor doing a brilliant job.
She's so smart. But, she's such an evil narcissist that she doesn't realize that the prosecutor is getting her to talk about her education, her numerous (made up) ailments and her skills at dog training so he can then turn it around on her to show her horrible treatment of her son. It was so funny to watch bc I knew exactly where the prosecutor was going with it
I’m laughing listening to her list her accomplishments 😂 who tf cares? Bare minimum of accomplishments is not unaliving your own child but she couldn’t manage that one now could she?
I don’t care about your accomplishments Shanda! You failed miserably at the most important job in the world, being a Mom. Child killers are not welcome in prison. Good luck with that.
The dad should be charged with neglect or something for letting her have him despite a court order. She said he had a stroke but that is not a good enough excuse for handing him over.
Same. I want the back story. I thought she stated she had at least 2 kids who would've been over 18 around this time, what about their complacency? Why didnt they say anything or ever investigated as well?
It doesn't look like she cares about the animals either (the cage example without a blanket as it isn't necessary), but sees training them as an achievement. She doesn't punish them, because punishing animals does not work, not because she is morally against it. Animals lack the abstract reasoning to understand that they did something wrong and won't understand they are being punished for something they did, rather that the human is just angry. If they understood it, she would punish the animals too.
@@k.elysium6819 It's not empathy. or anything near it. It's the fact dogs will obey them and worship them. They don't like animals whop don't want anything to do with their little whims. Sociopaths and narcs love dogs for the traits they cannot find in humans.
You people here are unfair to animals. So we should love people more than animals,love people and hurt animals that makes us better? Hurt no animals nor kids. There must not be any rationality. Please.
@@littleblackpistolI said "some" sociopaths in my post because they aren't all the same. I know a lot of them have no empathy for any living thing whatsoever. There are also psychopaths which is not the same either. They may share a lot of the same traits but there's a difference. It is certainly true though that they lack empathy and many do love to be worshipped. Psychopaths are usually known for their charisma and ability to deceive and often come across as normal. Sociopaths have a harder time fooling people than psychopaths.
Totally agree that Paul was her scapegoat , he was trapped in a living hell , she had fashioned him into her personal Robot , evil parents pitch their children against each other and blame them when the Shit hits the fan , my Father destroyed my older brother in his quest to be the Big Know it all , he made him eat too much at Christmas and instructed us younger kids to laugh at him when the poor teenager got sick , Glad I rebelled and left forever when I finished school , my other siblings 40 years on still see my abused brother and I as the problem. I hope Paul gets tons of help & a good life.
She’s a top law graduate but didn’t understand the custody order of Timothy? How does that make sense. She clearly knows there’s a reason she was to terminate custody and not get it back.
She had the audacity to cry when she said she didn't want her child to be in Foster Care. He would still be alive if he did go; shame on this evil woman.
I don't condone her actions but unless you have a child like Timothy you would never understand. My son is 17 and he is on the spectrum, has OCD, Anxiety and Sensory Processing Disorder. There are many days I question God why he gave me a son like this. Many times I am at the end of my rope and want to escape this life. He is 17 but has meltdowns like a 2 yr old. He lies and lies. I have very similar experiences she had with issues with a mattress and sleeping arrangements etc. He has many good qualities too but the issues he struggles with can be so overwhelming for me.
18:05 - SO GROSS that the only time she “tears up” is because she didn’t want Timothy to be in foster care. Are you f*cking kidding me?! What she put him through is more nightmarish than any foster family I’ve heard of. She truly is a monster. She doesn’t even know when to fake emotions.
I knew someone who claims she’s OCD but her car is so dirty, her bathroom is so dirty, she doesn’t take a bath everyday, she’s using dental floss while driving and she talks while her mouth is full of food and the food just go everywhere bwahahaha
Exactly! I have OCD & can not leave my home until Everything is spotless. I had to return home once because I had forgotten to clean the hairbrush. If you have OCD, you feel doom if your home isn't perfect... She does not have OCD!
People say they're tired of hearing folks blame narcissism. No one is excusing her behavior due to narcissism. Abuse just happens to be an avenue many of them take, because of their never-ending God complex. Anyone who dare question their ability, authority, morality will be punished. Hence.... How she abused her son. Then without batting an eye blames another child of her own for it. And claims ignorance. All with a straight "poor me" look on her face. Far cry from the excitement and eagerness with which she talked about how smart and capable she is with regard to the law. For those who don't know, a majority of law is about ethics. Our laws are based on ethics. So.... Yeah. All signs point to narcissism. She wouldn't be on the stand if she wasn't.
My adopted dogs used to poop and pee in the house and one is very destructive when he was just a puppy but I never crate them nor spank or hurt them physically!
Astounded that they are trying to throw anything they possibly can -with her “defence” insomnia…dissociative disorder. She couldn’t get her son to the Doctor but she still managed to work 12 hour days. I can’t believe that there was no one else that could have taken her son to the Doctor if her workplace didn’t allow her time off to take her son. Her in laws are around -why couldn’t they have taken him to the Doctor? So many questions…but very few satisfactory answers.
She claims she couldn't take him to the doctor because her ex wouldn't release his health records from Oklahoma to her - you have to have records to get a new doctor - she's only had him for a few years I believe when her ex couldn't deal with his behavior anymore
@@Catchmyvib2 even worse then….for all her attempts to convince the jury that she was just trying to stop Timothy from ‘stealing’ and ‘sneaking’…..food or numerous other items as she claimed, there’s a pre meditated aspect to this avoiding the Medical Profession, it SUGGESTS SHE KNEW what she was doing was ABUSE. I’m not usually pro death penalty, but her, for what ages put all her children through, I’d be considering it if I was in a position to do so.
She’s demonic, ever time she takes a drink of water , my heart cries for that poor boy she deliberately tortured with food and fluids, constantly punishing him. She’s in human. What did she do to her other son to get him to be so obedient. Paul deserves to be imprisoned too, he could of stopped it.
Yes, y'all are right, except...when he was on the stand testifying, things screamed out to me. He is uneducated and slow. He is completely under her thumb. He stammers his words and his eyes keep coming back to her, to see her reaction to what he is saying. Some of the most basic questions he didn't understand, he was working out things. I think he experienced his own hell at her hands. She is a destroyer of souls, and her children's souls, and hearts and minds. I have never watched a more evil being. Not human being, there's nothing humane about her. She's just a being. I'm just not sure about Paul, though. I will have to watch it to the conclusion. One thing, there is definitely something wrong with him, he's damaged.
@@hollyardis4524You might want to revise or delete your comment. The psychological report revealed that Paul was not "slow" he wasn't suffering from any mental condition whatsoever. He was putting on an act. Also, listen to the recordings of his jail house phone calls.
She is more compassionate with the dogs she trains than she is with her child. She is such a broken woman, and she has no clue how far out there she actually is.
@@MDGB-ok2sestop it lady. She not hurting the animal,remember,she didnt really hurt the other kids as well. I know cases where many people treat their children great and suffer and be cruel to animals, their pet. I think those kinds of people are pschopaths too.
Imagine thinking you’re the smartest in the room, but you walk right in to this trap. Only a narcissist or someone with strong narcissistic tendencies would fall for these questions. They can’t help but boast about how devastatingly smart they are. I feel like anyone else would feel suspicious by this line of questioning and at the very least would kind of panic if they’d had to list their accomplishments while feigning ignorance when it comes to their crime.
The fact that this woman used to train dogs is sickening, poor animals!!! What she did to her son is just above and beyond any words can express!!! Pure evil !!!!
@@MDGB-ok2se I feel terrible about the son ofc but animals are always gonna be my number one concern, they are the purest souls!! Sorry if that offended you
@@A-ue6qw67 No worries little offends me. It’s just that special needs and children to me are the purest of souls. I don’t like animals being mistreated but I put less concern into them than I do people, especially people who can’t defend for themselves like special needs, older people and children. That’s all. Take care and have a wonderful day. See this shows we as a society can disagree and still be respectful. ☺️
Cordination was his special needs! Tĥis little boy was 15 years old and weighed 59 pounds and she didn't seek help, not even emergency help. She breaks down on the stand worked so hard to bring up a tear, she wasn't successful. Uncoordinated but smart,really!! His 21 year old brother was scared sh'tless of her.
@@annettecahalan4268yeah and he was weighed back in 2019 and at that time was 104 lbs at the age of 12,but 3 years later at 15 years old when he passed away, had dropped to 69lbs 😢
And the fact that she said he went on a hunger strike - a 15 year old boy - as a mother would you let a boy his age go on a hunger strike and never went outside or to school.or a doctor- scary
