Tribal People React to Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot 

We love the cast of the show. All respect to them 💖

The man itself stated in the end: " More important is that we talk about it, and if we don't agree, we will agree to disagree" Can really people talk bad to someone after seeing the pale blue dot?🤷🏻‍♂️

I am especially heartened by the way you approached this subject with Abdul, as I’m sure there were nervous or tense moments when discussing such topics that have such a strong root in religion. Both of you were respectful to each other, and that is the greatest takeaway - showing respect to the beliefs of others, not persecuting them for it. Bravo to you and yours for getting it right.

a video nor photo is evidence the Earth is an oblique spheroid. Google earth would be better. World is an old word for people. :D I like haji Abdul. Is it so important people believe things they haven't the ability to see or know them selves? Without photos and scientists telling you the Earth is a sphere how do you know it is? That is what opinions are true or untrue. Actually, i like all your guests, they seem seem to be very nice people.

Hello. I just want you to hear my compliment. Your choice of "pale blue dot" is excellent. It touches the heart. Please more of such high level. Good luck and all the best to you and all of you.

She seems like a beautiful soul.

What happened to her? I didnt see her in any of the newer videos.

She seems curious as a smart child that may ignore things but really wants to learn.

They ate her ​@@23mystiq

Those people's intuition is on point..we t to the moon? How...? Well my friend....

I don't think she deserves it. I think you just want to defile her innocence.

@@lailanashim274 It seems you are confusing innocence with being susceptible to the lies of those who want her to be obedient to them.

@@lailanashim274 learning new things is not "defiling her innocence" wtf

@@saeefrayhan9717 It's just a joke about his name, fella...

@@lailanashim274 I read your first comment. Went to re-read his initial comment to see how you came to that thought. For whatever reason I read his name before re-reading. Then started to laugh after realizing, why you said what you said. lol You were joking but what you said was the truth.

So cool

That so interesting to know! In Spanish speaking countries, we say “Usted” to refer to someone formally instead of saying you/tu. Calling someone “usted” means you respect them and recognize that you should refer to that person with deference. Examples: your parents in law, someone you just met, a boss, a teacher or professor, an older person than you, etc.

​@@lornaferrer8415Those are the kinds of connections that linguists often say are impossible, that the word couldn't have traveled so far; the connection is unknown. But I want to believe my eyes and ears. A good word travels very far because of its usefulness and changes spelling, sound and meaning only slowly over time. There is wisdom!

@@lornaferrer8415 Heh, yeah I am currently trying to learn Spanish, and immediatly picked up on that word, was surprised to recognize it xD

@@user-gv4cx7vz8t I have never heard a linguist say such a thing, but if you consider the trade and travels between eastern countries and especially the mediteranien over the centuries, it makes a lot of sense to me that words can be shared. I am from Denmark, but I also speak English, and there are so many words that I recognize in English as being from old Norse (nordic languages), a few simple examples, Knife (kniv) Knight (knægt) Sword (sværd) Cake (kage .. yup, no vikings, no cake ;) ) Slaughter (slagte) Ransack (ransage) Berserk (bersærk) etc

I got a real kick out that too. Point demonstrated!

Those were bars 😂

He said humans differ from the rest of the animal kingdom in that sense, not considering human babies already know where and how to feed themselves.

Yes but humans are the same. They have pre-built instincts. No one educates a child that loud roars and sharp teeth or darkness are scary and dangerous. We all just feel that way instinctively. Same when we see a colourful spider at any age.

​@@ninomojo i do agree to an extent that we are born with some instinctual abilities of sorts. Maybe not so much instincts, like that of a newborn calf standing up and walking soon after its birth though. I guess there's one or 2 that come to mind as i think about it. First one is how upon birth we immediately begin to root around for a titty. But anyways, i believe the things such as you listed and described don't exist so much as instinct but more likely become apparent in individuals born into particular geographical areas that have a cohabitation of predatory creatures along with humans.

Not true Genesis 1 :14 - 19

@@SomeUnsoberIdiot False information never makes your life better.

@@illbeback-24 A bronze age myth that was borrowed from other cultures is not a science textbook.

i can relate. My mother-in-law, a very staunch Catholic with no interest in understanding our place in the universe, believed stars glow at night because they reflect the sun's light. I felt a bit of frustration but soon learned she cared little about it. For many people, what fits their preferred narrative, or gives them comfort is more important than understanding the truth.

Yeah my grandma thought that you couldn't see the sun and the moon at the same time because of something the bible said and I walked outside and said "look I can see both right now! Look!" But she wouldn't even get up from her chair to have her whole worldview turned upside down

Let’s not forget that this “basic” info that we may take for granted truly is mind blowing at its core. We are just use to it. The longer I live the more incredibly mysterious and beautiful the world becomes.

But why?? She seems happy and fulfilled. Compared to a few hundred years from now we will seem uneducated and lost. I would argue that we should humble ourselves and leave other cultures to their own and not try to impose our beliefs on others.

​@@CuttySobzDefinitely disagree. You'd make a fair point if science actually WAS a belief system. But what science is, is a method for how to think, and how to draw conclusions logically by testing theories against the evidence obtained. It requires trying to prove yourself wrong, and leaving biases and preconceived notions at the door on the way in. We also hold no value in eyewitness testimony, as humans are fallible. Something I know for a fact that religions fail to do. I absolutely 100% agree with teaching science to cultures that are scientifically illiterate. It's the scientific method of thinking that catapulted civilization forward so quickly in the last 500+ years, and it's the most infallible way of drawing conclusions. We follow the evidence wherever it takes us, no matter how uncomfortable it may be, no matter how wrong we might be. This is the ultimate difference between believing in God, and accepting scientific facts and theories. I do hope you take some value from what I just said, and how important it is to think critically, and that we don't necessarily need to let people hold onto their wrong beliefs, when we have the power to educate them. No need to be aggressive with them and tell them their beliefs are stupid, but education is very important. Perhaps if someone educates her, for example, she'll realize she's just as much of an atheist as myself. The only difference is that I don't believe in 3000 gods, and she doesn't believe in 2999 gods. I apologize for bringing religion into this a bit, but when you said beliefs, I assumed you were referring to religious culture. A safe assumption, but possibly an erroneous one.

@@fohrum4757 i just want to add to this and say that being an atheist isnt a requirement for being a scientist, haha. it's totally possible for religious beliefs to coexist alongside scientific ones. (even though i know saying that might tick off some people)

@@Drennis Yeah, I'm fully aware of that.

yeah , subtitles for them to read would have been awesome

I was wondering if they can read? I was thinking that may have been why he narrated a loose translation instead of having them read the direct translation as it was narrated. I sometimes forget what a gift it is to be able to read.

good point@@mattcantstop

yea, I was going to say the exact same thing. I actually got pretty choked up the first time I heard this.

@@mattcantstop it shoudn't be a gift it should be a right

Thank you Martin

Was about to say ,the way he preludes "blasphemous" information with a disclaimer he's not there to influence but to simply expose is very respectful.

Yeah I never really appreciated how delicate this is. Like imagine being sat down and told that aliens exist and have been living in clouds this entire time. I was worried you would freak them out.

He does what a good teacher should do. He presents information that should be true and the people have to decide if it is true.

The narrator talks to people on their terms, sensitive to their worldviews, which returns to him in kind with openmindedness within their worldviews, which is all anybody can hope for. Bravo, i adore each and every one of them ^^

he's the best type of Middle Eastern grandpa (if this is Pakistan, Middle Eastern adjacent). he knows things are more grand and vast than what he experiences, but he also applies his own metric in accepting which one of those vast and grand things fit the physiology and psychology of his truest self. to an average person, unless you're comprehensively educated in the sciences, AND have some background knowledge, space is a fantastical concept that's significantly more abstract than tangible. what people also miss is that Islamic spirituality (not religious dogma) is very much rooted in science, especially mathematics. also, if he lives in an area with herding animals, he'll know people who know astrology. if there are textile makers, pottery makers, rug makers, any kind of apothecary, then they know chemistry, geometry, physics, spacial reasoning, colour theory and ofc art. people who make their own things have become proficient in a given branch of science. that's the only way to create materials. they're all based on some sort of science. kite running, which is a staple holiday in Pakistan, requires knowledge of physics and analogue aviation. (I'm a second gen Middle Eastern-American)

It's even funny to see, that his religion has some interesting facts about it or many parts from the quaran might be simply wrong interpreted. The only downside to every religion is, that they take scripture literary. Like genesis. Once had a funny discussion with a friend of mine, evangelical believer, the more hardcore version. He told me, that only what in the bible is written is real. Said to him, that first, it was written by men and might be changed over the millennials in context or simply from translation. And when we hit the genesis part, I said - Imagine someone like Moses. Back in that time. An IQ from 60 maybe. Someone who never really left his village, has no real scientific knowledge. Can't even remotely explain why an apple falls down, aside from "it's gods will". If you were to show him a documentary from today, with nice graphics etc. how the world was created - how do you think would he see it? How would he understand it? He would describe it in a way, that his brain can comprehend what he has seen. Like its said in the bible, the earth is 4000 years old. Imagine, he simply didn't understand or could comprehend this. 4 billion years might be a number he couldn't understand. So 4000 years, in his reference frame of time, sounded like a lot ... That's why I believe it's important that we always see scripture in the historical and political context of the time. And I find it really exciting, that Abdul is taking his believes seriously, BUT he still has an open mind and listens first. He's accepting and listening to other or different ideas. @Trybals Maybe tell him this from me. Openness in context with an religion, that needs you to believe, is something really rare. And I really like, that he's saying (like the planet models later in another vid) are going against islamic believe, but he still tried to understand. Really awesome :)

Basically you live in the west. Rip our greatness.

its better to focus on why you would agree then disagree..

@@Jeyshara So a documentary from today is more credible than a book written and passed down through thousands of years why exactly? Where exactly did you get the number 4 billion from? Who made that up and then told you so you could quote it? Is there any physical evidence of it? There's a ton of physical evidence of things in the Bible being accurate. There's no evidence that the earth is that old or that the universe is 13.5 billion years old. If you are going to apply that level of skepticism to ancient texts but not to current "science" then you are in fact guilty of the same thing you accuse them of doing. Science as currently employed in the mainstream is the most dogmatic religion there is. It is devoid of anything that resembles the actual search for truth. It pushes hearsay from experts over observation and testing to get the results it desires. Just look at the last 2 years and observe what the "medical science" industry has done.

I suspect Muharam might understand a fair bit of English as he seems to react to Sagan's words....

@@cosidolyang4215 i mean after a while of hearing it regularly you would begin to pick it up even if you weren't trying to learn it

I really liked that part

Yes, a great remark!

I gained a lot of respect for this man when he said this. Definitely a man for much wisdom.

I would argue that there are people alive whose brains are already deflated tires.

I'm often blown away but some of these nuggets of wisdom these people give. Just great. I think I learn as much from them as they are learning from the videos they are shown.

Yes, he loves to learn new things!

Muharam ( is that how it's spelled?) Seems so genuine and open I love it. He seems very kind I bet he's a great parent.

Muharam is great. Out come the glasses for those moments of special interest. 👓❤️ I too love his curious open mind.

Yea, he's my favorite person on here too..😊

He slayed me with his justification for why he believes animals come equipped with knowledge of their own kind. "Bro, is there anyone to teach the mouse that a cat would eat it?"

Yeah, she is beaming with joy and curiosity! :)

yea they should know lot of things in future!!

Yes, Parvati exudes a childlike curiosity about everything. She absolutely deserves a world-class education, not just for self-fulfillment, but to pass her knowledge to the next generations.

So how in Europe and America mothers have higher education and still raise children. Your argument is error.

@@Microphunktv-jb3kjDo mother’s in Europe and the Americas need to haul water or work the fields? Western society is structured around the division of labour, but people in the developing world need to dedicate more of their efforts to basic survival. Education is a luxury afforded by spare time and others willing to care for the children.

And his calculations were remarkably accurate!

Yup, even Christians have been globe Earthers since their founding. Flat earth is anti-Christian

You realize the earth was much bigger back then. The Pythagorean Theorem was “discovered” or formulated many times in different parts of the world. Your comment comes across as snarky.

@@jonathanjones1736 who said anything about the Pythagorean theorem?

@@kilroy2517 it was to highlight that a discovery can be made by different groups in different places. The previous poster implied their achievement was due to someone else.

Sometimes I kinda wish that wasn't the case, as when condensation from a "humid" apartment like mine builds up in the winter from cooking and bathing, in cold winters, it collects on the windows and freezes them up. While it sometimes makes cool designs on the windows, its not to fun when the ice builds up so much that I can't open the windows to let out smoke from a burning pot, or when the heating being on for days starts making the apartment a little too warm. Life in a 1970's Canadian apartment man, always fun in the winter.

What a lovely story. Thank you for sharing it.🙏

That's wonderful! Love for your grandma! Cherish every second.

@@sid2112 thanks Sid. She passed away, so she lives on in memories. Quite the woman!

@@P4ndieEy3ss I feel you. Glad to know she lives on in you.

He said there are creatures without skin or clothes. I think he's right. Religious people refer to them as demons, spirits, etc. We are carbon-based lifeforms but in science it is becoming more and more evident that there are other incorporeal entities that are always around us, but they live in different dimensions or frequencies that our brains are not tuned to perceive. There's a lot of information about these entities out there but you have to go to the official CIA page or places like that because this is not mainstream knowledge.

Abdul is my favorite. I’ve become a patron, but I wish I could send Abdul a few dollars extra, I respect my elders. I respect abdul

He's wise in a worldly sense. The good Lord said the wisdom of this world is not the wisdom of Heaven.

It almost makes you understand that beliefs are irrelevant.

He's old enough to be confident bordering on stubborn, but wise enough to know the truth when he sees it.

😂 why?

@@thatdude3977So we understand other people’s thoughts and ideas. Expand your horizons

agreed

It makes you really love a different perspective. They seem like wonderful people. It would be great to meet them.

That's one of the reasons she learns so well! She's not just curious to learn, she's humble enough to do so and the interviewer is gracious enough to create that space.

@@blindknitter thank you for acknowledging that Mary ❤️🌹🤗

So funny to see these confused savages

@@KONYLOVESKIDS Reported.

@@blindknitter ?

And consider how difficult it can still be to truly get out heads around concept that we've heard about our whole lives (like the size of massive things and how we often have to use comparisons to things in our everyday life to get SOME idea of a measurement). We can only try to imagine. How much more difficult for someone introduced to these massive concepts for the first time.

Amen

the whole COSMOS series was an amazing experience.

He should have taken the time to actually translate it instead of paraphrasing after they stare at a screen for a while not knowing what’s going on

I tried to talk-along with the speech (I know it almost by heart), but kept choking up.

@@smaakjeks Amen, I once tried to speak it in finnish language for one Finnish viewer but burst out to weeping voice the second Sagan started his manifest

Are you talking about humility? Yeah that's it.we could be all there is in the universe.

I have a poster with a picture of the pale blue dot through the rings of Saturn, with what Mr. Sagan stated here.

@Bucephalus Tyndareus: I agree. @TRYBALS: Thank you so much for creating this educational video on Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot essay. He persuaded NASA to rotate one of the two Voyager probes around and take a photo of Earth before it would appear smaller than just one pixel of the space probe's camera resolution. Ever since I first read Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" essay in my young 20s, and ever since I saw the accompanying photo of Earth from the space probe (in which Earth appears as a single pale blue pixel within a much larger sunbeam amidst the inky blackness of space), it's been my favorite essay I've ever read. I think that all world leaders should read this essay... And I also think that the more who go up and view Earth from space, and see directly how thin our atmosphere is compared to the size of the Earth (like thinner than the skin on a peach), the more who see that, the more humbled they would be in getting along with others within the world, and the more seriously they would strive to protect our small and fragile home. @TRYBALS: Looking forward to videos of our astronauts in space! I think some with views from the huge Cupola windows of the ISS would provide great context and breathtaking views to your colleagues.

Car salon*

I agree 100%, well-stated. :)

Once you realize what science in the twentieth century is, then you will be quick to decry all your heroes from your youth and everybody you respect in most fields. Media controlled business supported schills. From Darwin and Francois the goelogic time guy to Edison, Sagan, hawking a and Dawkins they are all raised to their position to be the face of a narrative or an idea little are bright and far fewer are known for their experiments. Almost always these people had their foes contradicting the narrative and the technological push, and they are the ones doing the research theorizing and most importantly the experiments. Darwin was opposed by Mendel father of genetics whose work was obscured for 70 years before resurfacing and he hated Darwin with a passion. Basically Darwin’s theorizing had no basis in science he didn’t perform a single experiment to prove his theory and all his fundamental basic assumptions based on his theory have been disproven. Edison was opposed by Tesla and wanted the whole world to run on his Direct current, but Tesla prioritized alternating current but was demonized and lombasted because Edison had public political and financial banking by the elites.

@@SomeUnsoberIdiot it also gave us innumerable benefits as well. If you only ever see the negative, you're missing the point of life.

@@SomeUnsoberIdiot every great thing is a double-edged sword. Can’t have the light without the darkness, they’re two sides of the same coin

The Gospel is a great thing to learn and believe! The Gospel is read in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 which tells us that we are saved by trusting in the Lord Jesus death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of our sins. It’s so easy to be saved as we read in Ephesians 2:8-9 that says we are saved by grace through our faith, and not by the way we live or the things we do or do not do. Ephesians 2:8 also says that our salvation is the gift of God! Sadly most will pass on and realize in the future time of judgment what they let go, which is life eternal in a new perfect way.

@@Adam-ed6vm Thanks, but no thanks. I do not believe humans are born with sin. I do believe it is more important to live through good deeds than to rely on god to absolve and save me. I do not believe I will face judgment other than my own. I am my own salvation. I do not wish for life eternal, as with every life I hope to be cycled back into the earth. We can agree to disagree, friend. I will respect other people's faith, but I have my own ideas about life and death. Best wishes to you.

@@Enviro-Erin The One you are denying is the One who gave you the life you have, but that said, to believe or not is our decision, as God our Creator gave us free will to choose our eternal destiny, be it with Him who loves us or to be it with the one who hates us. This won’t matter to you today, but soon a period of time is arriving that will be unlike any other time in the history of the world. No one will want to be here when the tribulation period arrives. During that time one can still be saved if they have the chance, but most likely that choice will be death by beheading. God help those who are here for that period of time!

What is the universe expanding into? Like what…? Time? I’m confuse

That's a good question, we don't know yet! Perhaps you'll be the one to figure it out?

​@@lanichilds2825: The fact that the universe is expanding just means that the things within that universe are slowly, gradually moving further apart. It's not like the universe is expanding into something beyond space (like another dimension, such as time).

Wise men don't have immutable mindsets.

You could be the most intelligent person on Earth, and still be schooled by an elderly person. Always have respect for the elders.

@@LetsConquerTheUniverseTogether He didn't seem that immutable to me. By the end he was singing Sagan's praises.

@@17thknight that's what (s)he said; he's wise, not immutable

I 100% feel the same way. He makes me think of those wise grandfathers that would make family gatherings informative but refreshing.

And ironically far more so than many people from supposedly 'advanced' and 'educated' countries.

An Abdul metaphor about the people with air in their heads and souls being just like a table was so cool. I couldn't have said what he said. That's a different kind of knowledge I respect

@@dariogutierrez6716 exactly it is just his way to see and understand the world. does it harm anyone? no. so why bother or try to "correct" him. just respect the man and judge him for what he is actually doing. I would be delighted to drink some tea with him and just talk about daily stuff. I think I can learn something, at least some humility

@@sophoklesgreek3237 ​ @Darío Gutierrez Sooooo this. I'm with you. I love his metaphors and analogies, as they are quite fitting most of the time. And as he knows his scriptures, he is always ready to frame new knowledge in a way for him to process it, maybe preparing to use this to teach others. I'd really like to see a talk about modern astronomy and/or other sciences in context with different scriptures. When I look at the bible (in its translation), I find it sad that you can't readily adapt and/or subsumize new knowledge and go on forward saying 'This is new to us, but look at the texts, it has been there for so long until we finally understood!'.

There's nothing enjoyable about an immutable religious mindset.

Wait she didn't know she lived on earth 😳

I agree, I should have gone with the older version instead. Thank you for sharing your suggestions.

@@TRYBALS Did you tell them it was CGI ???

@@TRYBALS There is no "older version". There was one photograph taken by Voyager 1 which Carl Sagan suggested to NASA to be taken, and later Sagan wrote the 1994 book Pale Blue Dot which he himself narrated in the audiobook. The audio of the video you used is from that audiobook, everything else is CGI. The impact of such a thing is almost completely lost when using CGI, and even specific references don't make sense e.g. "a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam". You were doing great explaining satellites and should have just told them about Voyager 1 and how it was turned to take a photo from 6 billion km away. Show them the photo, then play the audio. A prerecorded translation would have also been nice.

Parvati's openness and excitement brings me joy, but also deep sorrow. That she has made it to adulthood with no conception of the physical realities of the world, despite her obvious intelligence and interest in learning, exposes to me how badly she has been failed by the systems around her. The raw hunger for knowledge displayed by almost everyone in that video makes me ache with regret that we as their fellows have failed so badly to secure it for them.

They make me feel good about being human.

What an excellent comment. Well said 👍🏼

These are some of the most moving videos I've seen on RU-vid. No one is more or less intelligent; it's just about access to information and sometimes some help in making sense of new information. And those of us on this side certainly could learn some things from tribal peoples who live differently. I think as we have gained knowledge, we've probably lost a lot of connection with one another and our own world.

@@DavidMichaelCommer Very well said. I completely agree. You take care.👍🏼

I loved your whole comment. Completely agree that we all ponder our place in the world, and it's interesting to see how different people do that. But your little aside about the corners of the world being metaphorical really tickled me, and gave me a nice little grin. It's such a perfectly fitting little joke/aside for this topic and video.

I'll get them some kits and help them build some basic circuits in future too. Hope so 🤗

@@TRYBALS I can’t begin to state how important that is. I once invited a man from Malawi to come to my house after church. When he arrived I was fixing the circuit in a garden tool. He was amazed that an academic, such as I was, did manual repairs. I told him it that we learned to wire electric motors in grade school. I then asked, “You are your agricultural university’s librarian, who studies the repair manuals for your tractors?” He said he will make some changes when he returns home. That was decades ago. From what I’ve read about some of the technological successes from his country, it sounds like he and others did just that.

@@TRYBALS Yes!!!! I'd love to see them do such science experiments! Especially with things they can use in their regular lives. Learning about solar panels, electricity, and circuits would be both cool, practical, and a usable life skill they can take with them.

@@TRYBALS Well that would be amazing. To see them get the understanding of the generation of electricity

@@qwazse4 "From what I’ve read about some of the technological successes from his country, it sounds like he and others did just that." That is fantastic if you've indeed changed the lives of several generations of people simply for what you taught in that one moment.

You may not be an artist, but you're an excellent writer. It's a pleasure reading comments like yours. Vibes are powerful things - I like to imagine the world healing a bit from these videos and folks' reactions to them. Paz y luz.

Not possible. Is true. Those ignorant of Islam will never know.

He taught me! His description of tyrants’ lives ending like a punctured tire is brilliant!

@@evilsharkey8954 Except the tyrant he believes in.

@Timur Sayfullah Allah. All forms of the Abrahamic deity are tyrannical.

@Timur Sayfullah I mean, demanding absolute obedience or it will do horrific things to you is pretty much the epitome of tyranny.

Eastern Religions like Hinduism, Buddhism, and Taoism don't deny modern science apart from a few small sects. Some variations of these three have some crazy metaphysical beliefs but to them, there's no conflict between them and scientific data.

@@Might.B.Housey_ Hinduism is definitely not scientific at all

Yes it doesn't have to be, but you can't reason science to a religion with dogmatic beliefs. Religion may not have to be a barrier but it will be a barrier for scientific progress.

"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein

@@Dann-md9eq There are aspects to the universe that we will never understand because it's beyond our realm of perception. We're literally locked in the 3rd dimension because our minds can't comprehend anything beyond that - this is where religion fills that void. It's impossible to disprove the existence of God because the laws of nature couldn't be used against the one who created them. I'm not religious or anything, but I've seen a lot of good that religion can do. I may not believe in all their doctrine, but anything that helps people become more kind to others is okay in my book.

There's an old African saying that I learned at teacher's college here in NZ: "If you educate a man you educate an individual, but if you educate a woman you educate village" She takes that learning and shares it with her children, her elders, her neighbours... it is powerful

@@cheekyb71 absolutely!

notice how beautiful and clear her skin is,, maybe one time the producer could ask them about their diet,

In this video and the last where Parvati learned some space facts, I was admittedly jealous. Like you said, in other counties, we learn this stuff from a young age. But seeing the look on her face as her universe began to expand was something; you can only learn these things once, after all. I can't imagine the difference it makes as an adult, who already has so many preconceived ideas about the world.

Thank you for your humility, such an honorable trait.

hello Mr telescope

There’s an excellent PBS documentary about the voyager mission I wish everyone on the planet could see

@@TartRedFruitIs it posted on the PBS site, or on RU-vid? That sounds very interesting!

The respect he brings to each person and subject is immense. I don't think it's at this level at the United Nations.

if you are not able to measure the Earth yourself as the persians did in the 10th c. then you have an opinion. I have a fair idea how to calculate the size of the Earth but still only have an opinion. Isn't that something we should have been taught in school instead of blind beliefs? Haji Abdul has certainly given much thought to how things are or are not, and able to cognise his views.

@@craigscott2315 We were taught it in school. It's basic angles referenced against the sun. 3rd grade stuff.

He disagrees with the science but understands Carl Sagan’s point anyway.

@@craigscott2315 👏🏼 Thank u! So far yours is the only comment that doesn't sound arrogant af. We actually don't know as much as we think we do. Most of us are simply thoroughly indoctrinated. And YES, I fully agree with you that HOW to prove these things to ourselves would've been the best use of this area of science specifically, but others as well such as carbon dating, etc. After all what was the point of teaching all of us those higher maths through high School and college if they were mostly just taught as abstractions devoid of context. Saying that just says an example and obviously piggybacking on your comment. Anyways, I completely agree with you and I swear I appreciate your comment so much. A lot of arrogance in the comment section from people who at least on the surface think they are being generous and open-minded. I'm 41 years old and I'm just now beginning the slow work of becoming an amateur geologist through hobby. It definitely does seem that most people do not realize that what they commonly refer to as "science" is full of opinions, politics, information suppression, etc. Science is in fact VERY political. There are governing bodies, people deciding to fund things or not, certain opinions being marketed to the people as facts, etc. I realize I've been rambling about this for a while. So I'm going to end this. LOL

For sure!! I like him and tbe woman. I wish i was that blissfully ignorant:(

Well, a lot of "space tech" is used to make life better here on Earth. If something is a waste of money, it is the building of weapons in excess. Space exploration is not a waste, and space is so huge, that there is always room for the gods, if nowhere else, then in the middle of black holes where we will never be able to peek.

@ Mel S that is completely right, but on a pure philosophical argumentation, humans cabt really be better. Just look we have thought we were enlightened in the western world, but boom an orange idiot yelling and suddenly americans behave bad, or a small Russian dictator going medieval and threatening with nuclear war. Sometimes looking for answers outside is easier.

I like the idea that we're not alone. Perhaps we are so what. But one day those that come after us may find out and we will need to have changed our arrogance. The Creator made life but it's always assumed it was only on this planet. We know life here is complex. The same could be the further out of our orbit of comfort. It's nice to think about Carl Sagan was wise. He gave us much to think about. He challenged us to "think" not just follow.

I agree ...... earth first

Space exploration is crucial for our survival, just imagine what the world would look like if we never looked up and thought "what's up there" The amount of innovation we've had because of space exploration and science, first of, we wouldn't be watching this video if someone didn't launch satellites up there. Space can bring us together in a way nothing else can, just look at international space station as an example.

​@Timur Sayfullah i dont think you understand what i mean. believe in this term is not religious but a significant part of knowledge. basically your knowledge is split in 2 parts. the rational knowledge you hold and the strength of belief you hold in said kowledge. (e.g. you know that water boils at 100 °C and you belief this to be true - seeing otherwise would shake your belief either in what you see or what you know) changing ones belief means updating knowledge and changing opinion which is a hard thing to do. if belief and knowledge clash this leads to cognitive dissonance. other than that, i do not see an argument in your post and i do not wish to argue about relgion here. i'll just state my bias, i am an agnostic atheist. and thats all i will say about religion here.

@Timur Sayfullah I see. But no I meant the Epistemology definition of belief. I can see now that my comment could be seen in a different way. My bad

@@another_blacktomcat Seeing water boil at something other than 100c would tell me something about the conditions had changed. Either mineral content of the water or pressure would be what I check first. It wouldnt shake my belief that pure water boils at 100c at STP. With the right pressure and temp set up, you can actually boil water until it freezes solid BECAUSE of the boiling.

@@jasondean88888 your argument is fairly invalid, because it relies on other cross beliefs that you already hold^^ basically, a shaken belief in your example would be if you boil water at 50 °C then check the barometer, thermometer, salinity etc. and realize no-it is lc gradient water, no- the thermometer is working, no -the pressure is at 1 bar etc.pp. basically if you have beliefs that stablize each other, you have a very different argument. cognitive dissnonance will only appear if you can not rationalize and fit the new observation with any of your already held knowledge. your argument is simply: It wouldnt shake my belief because i have other beliefs to fall back on.....not sure why you made that argument to begin with tbh, what is your point?^^

I read pale blue dot when I was 12. I know a lot, and when I was young I was arrogant about my knowledge. Now I respect the opportunities and upbringing I had that gave me the desire and opportunity to study many domains of knowledge in my life. My desire and drive not it to continue to learn and the share what I know, where it is needed and wanted.

I've actually never seen anyone post anything rude to Abdul. Maybe I've missed it, but if your a westerner watching a channel in which trybal people of a different culture view western things, I'd assume the audience of this channel does it because they are curious about human beings, culture and the like, not because they want to criticize an elder.

@@jeffersonott4357 I haven't seen any posts like that either. It is YT though, so I assume there's always a few, and maybe they got deleted... I think 99% of us watching are genuinely interested in other people's perspective. I hope so anyway.

@@n0madtv agreed, 100%. I think you are correct

So true. I'm a big old atheist, and I come here for the viewpoint and the people I've come to like. I want to see people being brought together, there's plenty of other places I can go to see people harangue each other--like most of the rest of RU-vid eg. If this was all about forcing opinions, I would never have learnt lots of fascinating little details about humanity, and their corner of the world. And I really appreciate the way that the channel and crew handle things.

I love Abdul. He's lovely.

That is why Pentecost exist.

@@lisamarie6611 no. That’s why translators exist.

@@lisamarie6611 I wouldn’t normally but looking at your relentless comment history forcing “Jesus” on a population with a very different religion - it’s just classic. You’re the worst Christianity had to offer. No love or understanding. Just all “FOLLOW JESUS OR ELSE”. I have family in church leadership. You don’t represent the church. You’re ignorant.

@@AL-fl4jk lol Holy Spirit is faSTER THAN TRANSlaotors.

@Tom Jefferson hehe...I may have been taped for that thing..I repent of it. I have a good mom and that is all that matters. She too Loves Jesus. She plants seeds and I too hear her voice.

Lol my friend in Rome says that about his family who live three hours from Palermo, way in the country.

Yes but please not about the thing about the sun revolving around the earth, I do not think your grand-grandparents believed that, unless they were the prosecutors of Galileo Galilei.

@@backslash68 In the Quran it states some amazing things: Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and then We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe? -Surah Al-Anbiya', Ayah 30 And We placed within the earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with them, and We made therein [mountain] passes [as] roads that they might be guided. -Surah Al-Anbiya', Ayah 31 And We made the sky a protected ceiling, but they, from its signs, are turning away. -Surah Al-Anbiya', Ayah 32 And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming. -Surah Al-Anbiya', Ayah 33 And We did not grant to any man before you eternity [on earth]; so if you die - would they be eternal? -Surah Al-Anbiya', Ayah 34 Every soul will taste death. And We test you with evil and with good as trial; and to Us you will be returned. -Surah Al-Anbiya', Ayah 35 When the disbelievers see you ˹O Prophet˺, they only make fun of you, ˹saying,˺ “Is this the one who speaks ˹ill˺ of your gods?” while they disbelieve at the mention of the Most Compassionate. -Surah Al-Anbiya', Ayah 36 Humankind is made of haste. I will soon show you My signs, so do not ask Me to hasten them. -Surah Al-Anbiya', Ayah 37 In a way, Carl Sagan shared the same message didn't he? He called to the magnificence of the Earth and the insignificance of man. Only difference was that Carl called to take care of the earth, whereas the Quran calls to remember the Creator so that you will be in peace.