You lack critical thinking. They want military and police contacts so it gonna be high. After the hype is gone the price will come down to normal RMR prices.
Good to see Trijicon finally attempting to compete; however, that price is delusional. Double the competition for something barely on par? Reminds me of the RMRcc.
Brain dead take. #1 The price will come down. #2 It's most likely beyond on par just like the previous RMR (Durability, NV Performance, Longevity, etc) #3 It's made in the good old us of a brother yeee yeeee grab you partner its time for a square dancin 🇺🇸🦅🔥🇺🇸🔥🔥🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅
Holosun is still far behind. Just because they put a cheap solar panel on top and make a bunch of models of the same design doesn't make them better. They're nice for the price but they can't match Trijicon's durability.
Honestly I don't get the pricing, how do they expect to be competitive in such a crowded market for pistol red dots especially with the fact that Holosun has beat them to the punch with everything and keep innovating much faster than Trijicon, they are just so late to the party and with that price point I don't even see them as being relevent.
Lol ....no. 😂😂 This is why Holosun is kicking trijicons rear end. They didnt fix the RMR, the modified the SRO. ...and doubled the price. This will sell to range warriors and gear snobs. Normal smart people, not so much.
@@Skinnymoose If a red dot fails, and you can't defend yourself or your family, you should have been spending more time at the range. Red dots aren't a necessity... And shouldn't be treated as one. If you're depending on it, to work to save your life, you've skipped over several fundamentals. Like I said ...most of the people who buy this, will do so because they want to say they have it.
@@Skinnymoose Yeah... My red dot is really supporting the CCP... If you can hear WAY up there on that high horse, answer me a question... Where was your phone, tablet, computer, and/or TV made, that you're replying to this video with? Most consumer goods in the US come from China, Taiwan, Korea. So use that BS on me, when nothing you own is made over seas... Otherwise, you're just spouting garbage. Most of your car, the electronics (including wiring) in your house and work, 80% of the medicine you take, and 70% of the pork you eat are supporting the CCP. Which division of industry do you think they are making the most money on? Medicine food and electronics, OR optics? That said... Your red dot is an accessory. If your "tool" won't operate without it, you should have bought better tools, or trained properly. 👍🏻
Trijicon get lost your too late….haven’t finished the video but I’m assuming this thing is going to be an insulting $700 or above red dot that doesn’t offer anything that every other dot already does. Lol
Not a knock against Trijicon at all. I have a couple RMRs, but for me it’s simple economics. I had much rather buy American, but until we bring back an industrialized America where wages stabilize themselves more equal to American product prices, it’s really hard to justify this optic over some of the Holosun products. I wish that I could.
I’ll hold out for the closed emitter variant. Not enough for me here to warrant swapping out my Type 2 Adjustable RMR’s just yet. Looking forward to watching Aaron abuse these beyond belief over on his channel though. Side note, my Holosun EPS that’s been living on my current EDC has thoroughly impressed me to actually warrant trusting the company. Solid pricing as well.
850 fuckin dollars. Its dead on arrival. Someone really need to like Trijicon to buy it. Also, the rised edge on the bottom Might caught some things, possibly even brass
I think people are gonna buy this in droves…cuz they’re fans of trijicon and have a certain bias. But anyone who is more objective (and maybe value minded) probably won’t make this their first choice when there are others that offer more for less. Thanks for the first look! Really want to hear more about their enclosed optic!
Trijicon is turning into the Apple of the optics world. I like trijicon, I own 4 or 5 RMRs, I own an ACOG, and several sets of there night sights... and I wouldn't buy that at half the MSRP. This is the type of stupid that turns me away from a company... Incorporate features that other manufacturers have had, rearrange a few things, call it new and improved, and jack up the price... Nah, this is just going to keep pushing people into Holosun. Which is where I've been heading for the last year or so.
@@joeytomato I think that’s a great comparison and in many ways, I think Glock falls in the same category. They don’t innovate, they tend to rest in their one flagship product/platform and just think that people will be satisfied. Sorry but as a consumer, I want people to fight for my business so I appreciate and will go towards companies like Holosun cuz of the value and willingness to push for more.
@@artimla492They don’t innovate as fast, rushing product to market which imo maintains their reputation as an industry standard in reliability. They made changes from RMR 1 to 2 and don’t make gimmicks like solar power and they continue to work.
I'm not sure how I like the glass pushed forward like the SRO. It just puts the glass closer to the exhaust from the ejection port and prohibits the use of forward irons just to allow for a top-load battery which isn't really a big deal. And for $800... Man, Trijicon is really banking on the fanboys to come through in this market where you can already get a reliable red dot with all of these features for $200.
Si it’s a squared SRO?….. for way more money?…. No, trijicon can eat it. Give us a super clear enclosed variant at same price as old RMR at the most and then we talking, otherwise it’s a no go
Now we only have to wait 1 year plus after it releases for this and RCR to catch up with demand. SROs have just been available recently without backorder or insane markups.
@@MrLucht SROs have only come back in stock and not back ordered the last couple of months. I personally knew people who sold their SRO for $700+ back when demand was crazy only like a year ago. They released it in 2019 so think about that. It's taken something like 3+ years to become reasonably priced and in stock.
@@MrLucht I think Covid taught us a lot on how fragile the supply chain issue can get and how much even American companies and manufacturers rely on bar stock metals and components from other countries.
Solid review. Speaking for myself, if the price comes down to about $600-ish I might be interested in this or the RCR. Otherwise I'll just buy an Acro P2 or a 508T if I need to stick with the RMR footprint. It is good to see Trijicon listening to their customers and following the current trends though.
Only took them like 3 years ...and even then, they didn't give us the RMR we wanted, they just hacked up an SRO... And nearly doubled the price. "Current trends" for Trijicon is what everyone else has been doing for 5 years or more. This thing is hours old... And already getting roasted all over the internet.
Ordered the HD last night Dave. Everything I've wanted from an RMR for my home defense "nightstand queen" Glock 19 with a WML no doubt. Thanks so much for your time and well thought out presentations. I really like my RM06 HRS, but this beats it hands down in almost every aspect. Well, maybe not aesthetically.. Ha! Keep on rock'n and stay safe. Thin blue line my brother.
The rmr you were asking for at the price you can’t afford. Good job! Why trust your life with a open emitter? You can blow water off, mud will render it useless. I’d prefer a us company, but holosun owns the pistol optic market right now. 50,000 hours battery life, solar fail safe if battery dies Shake awake 3 reticles Comes in green Eps carry is closed emitter and literally half the price with all of these features. As far as the dot, I like to run mine where in dark areas the dot goes away and I just use my night sights. They are easy to see the tritium. And the dot fights them for attention. We need a company to make a prism optic for people with astigmatism. I’m left handed so for holsters, I’m usd to making it work. For my echelon I have a de santis kydex with blade tech clip mounts so I can use the locking clips or the iwb clips. Sometimes you just gotta grab a torch and drill and hope for the best. 😂
So you don't trust an open emitter optic but you'll trust a chinese optics shake awake feature? This new rmr has 4-6 years of battery life so no need for a shake awake feature. The price will come down, the type-2 was $800 when it first came out too. Also closed emitters have their share of problems. P2s, EPSs, and 509s have been found to have moisture inside the lens and have durability issues. I don't think a prism optic on a handgun would work. The eye relief would have to be magical far.
Nice detailed review and appreciate the coverage. As much as I want one i cant justify the price with other companies already doing some of the upgrades the RMR HD and RCR are doing. off topic, I noticed at 8:32 in the video your SRO has a BUIS notch. Is that a different model or an add on piece somehow? I have never seen that before.
Great features, but that is a steep price, I would like to see a model with just a dot and button lockout. Kinda like what holosun did with the 407c and 507c. I would pay sro prices for an rmr with holosun features. Great first look Dave!
Design is severely flawed. The overhang of the optic is a major miss. I don’t understand the blind loyalty and cult following Trijicon has. It’s pretty weird honestly.
I was thinking about considering this new version RMR, as the old one didn't seem worth it. But hearing that the price is going to be that much more? That's gunna be a hard pass.... 😮💨
Trying to find one has led me to trying other brands, and they’re pretty good. Dumb move releasing a product without making any, trijicon. I’ve been on the back order list for six months on everything from brownells to opticplanet. Loving the Leopold Delta and the Holosun. And I don’t care what the damn thing costs, I just want one without having to know secret handshakes or join a club.
Are they going to pull an ACRO, and have them always out of stock 2years after “release”????? If you release them, please have them actually available…..please. (Not just to guntubers)
$850, huh? Holy fuck. I see no point in trying to keep up with your competitor's features if you're bringing your product to market for double the cost.
Everyone complaining about price are also the same people who have 5 of the same gun with the same cheap parts and never shoots any of them but will say nothing broke for them so the cheap parts are just as good.
Algorithm comment Edit: in the beginning, you spoke what has been clear to many for quite some time; they’re stale. And after watching your presentation (which was great btw) I observed that they remain stale. These designs and functions are already widely available and have been for a good while. I imagine like many giants they will just live off the name they built for a little while and let innovation slip on by. I mean, why take costly risks when you already have a profitable company
The RMR T3 is just them playing catch-up to the market and correcting the numerous criticisms/shortcomings of the Type 2. The changes are just things Trijicon could have done 5 years ago. The RCR is the actual innovation product here, as I think the future of duty-grade MRDS are going to be in sealed/contained units like the ACRO, MPS, 509, and now RCR.
Im in Florida, and certian parts of the year rain is unavoidible. Also, it's humid here all of the time. Saltwater is an issue, sweat, etc,etc. I've lost an SRO, several Holosuns, and a delta point to moisture. Having to take the optic off to change the battery every other year is a small price to pay to ensure I have a worked red dot. Nothing seals like the bottom Oring gasket on my type II RMRs, and RMRcc. Openings in the top of the optic is a non-starter, as always people fail to grasp that things are engineered the way they are for a reason.
That’s interesting and always love hearing from others. My SROs and others have been super wet, even underwater once and through the winters with no issues from battery cap so long as it was sealed correctly. We did see some DPP leak during heavy rain at a class and an acro fog.
Not at $800 PLUS DOLLARS no one I know is waiting for it. Only the Surefire fan boys are waiting for this over priced dog shit with RED COLOR DOT only. Holosun 507 comp blows this away and all for $300
Everyone needs to recognize that the Trijicon Optics are more expensive than the Chinese Optics because the American worker is receiving a decent wage, stop comparing the two where price is concerned, support your American worker, not those who are trying to take your country over.
All most Americans care about these days is money. I get that we want to get the most bang for our buck but we are shooting ourselves in the foot. I'd rather save up, wait and buy an RMR than have instant gratification and support the CCP. Plus Trijicon is leaps and bounds ahead of Holosun in terms of ruggedness, quality and customer service. Buy once, cry once is my philosophy.
SIGs glass is the right approach. EVERY red dot optic needs to start using aspherical lenses. There is zero distortion/magnification on my 4T. Puts my MRO to shame in every way.
Howdy Tell me a little bit about that small integrated rear notch for the SRO please. Looks like it is integrated into the sight, just ahead of the diode/emitter. (y) @ 8mins 23 Secs in the video.
I really don't like the overhang. Optics should not be larger than their footprint, that's why it's called a footprint. If I wanted to custom mill a slide and seat the optic really deep into that slide, like I could with the RMR Type 2, I can't now because of that overhang. That alongside the price, and this just doesn't compare to the Leupold DPP or Holosun EPS.
Great review. Appreciate you being unbiased. Also, thank you for not reading the specs and saying you did a review. 😂. I’m definitely coming here first when you have a new product review.
In your continued use, do you find that the additional overhang of the new RMR causes any ejection related issues with Staccato? I'm getting my first Staccato soon and that's my only concern with this optic, it's very close to the ejection port
Well, I just lost any and all interest when I heard that MSRP. It's almost twice the price of an RMR Type 2, and the only thing it brings is features that should be standard on the range at this point.
For love of god!!! Manufactures stop with the 1, 2 and 3 moa dots with circle unless its going on rifle. Rather your using this optic for self defense or competition 6 or 8 moa dot is best. One day companies will understand this hopefully sooner than later. On the optic would of considered if 6 or 8moa dot with top mounting battery just a smaller square sro.
I’m good on optics till they get it together definitely overpriced but if ppl stop wanting to impress the next man the good budget stuff could get shine…I don’t care what folks say about the dragonfly that came with my Prodigy gun runs perfectly as is so I’m gonna keep the gun as Springfield intended
