TRIPLE Your Frame Rates | Lossless Scaling Frame Generation | MSFS 2020 

Hello... Can I used it with full screen in the sim or i have to put it in Windowed ?

I want to let you know how much help you were to me, I’m an old simmer, I know absolutely nothing about computers. I was able to install this and now my sim is as smooth as butter. You were clear in your speech and went slow enough for me to follow… Thank you so much… you made an old guy very happy.

This is the single greatest video to improve performance since the release of the sim. I have 3090 with a 5800x and the performance at 4k was really bad with study level airliners in VATSIM at a busy airport. Now the landings are butter smooth. No stutter even on the weekend at Frankfurt or Heathrow with 100s of other aircraft around. Thank you so much Island Sim Pilot. You’re a star.❤

Ive never heard of this program so i decided to give it a try bc youve never steered me in the wrong direction before and this is by far the best my sim has ever looked. Best 7 bucks ever spent. Thank a ton!!!!!!

Wow!!!!!! Best purchase ever made. Smooth like butter at heavy airports like KJFK with real traffic. Simply amazing. Than you!

The captain is back with another brilliant video🔥

Wow! It's definetly better than the FrameGen mod, although I couldn't see any difference in your video when you had it on. Probably it just kept recording in 30fps? For me it's running incredibly smooth now. Thank you so much Cpt. IslandSimPilot 😎

Saved my life! You are legit. Thanks for sharing and all the effort involved.

Another great set of videos, helping us all understand how these tools work both independently, as well as (in some cases) together. I also have a 60hz monitor (no support for higher), and using your advice regarding the Lossless Scaling settings (for X2) in both the Sim, the Application, and NVIDIA Control Panel REALLY helped. I did try pushing the limit by trying X3 on the Lossless, but I found that it resulted in excessive "blurring" effect when moving around, or around dynamic things like looking through the front propeller. X2 definitely the best for my 60hz monitor. Once I got more familiar with activating it, I decided to get bold by enabling Frame Gen in MSFS at the SAME TIME as while running Lossless, and I must say, the additional smoothness was rather apparent! So I think that might be my go-to setup in the future, but it will all depend on the aircraft, the density of the scenery I'm flying over, etc. The one thing I wish I could figure out on the Lossless application, is how to prevent it from hiding my mouse cursor, whenever I move the mouse from my main MSFS monitor display, over to my second display monitor, where I keep everything else (browser windows, LittleNavMap, Beyond ATC, etc etc.). But even there, I am getting used to the fact I just need to click anywhere on that second display, and the mouse will appear. Thanks again IslandSimPilot!!!! Great content, and technical explanations. Its really helped me navigate the complexities of how all these things work.

If I hadn't subscribed to this channel and therefore watched this video I would never have known this applied to non steam games too... I wonder how many others thought the same, thanks for clarifying this

I purchased this after watching the video. Figured it wouldnt work, but hey, its only 7 dollars. Boy ooh boy was I suprised! I cant stop trying different areas that were unflyable for me before. Definitely works!

Yes! Working great on a 2080Ti. Been using the framgen mod for sometime but it was janky with the artifacts and what not. This is great!

I have an ancient GTX 1080 Ti, and started using this mod initially when it first came out, and again when they updated it recently. It works great! Can't wait to try it out with my new system I'm planning on building this year.

Hello. Was a bit sceptical but as you said for 7$ I gave it a try. I use a 4090 but OMG I now hit 120-140 fps in FG 2X and it is so smooth! Thank you for your videos. Got yourself a new subscriber.

I’ve tested it on a short pattern around LEBL. Now MSFS goes very smooth. I need to test it on a full flight.

Great stuff, will give it a shot.

Extra note- I had to add the lossless programme in invidia and put the max frame rate up, it was set at 30. Works superb now thanks!

Every time I see a video from you popping up on my playlist I am surprised to what you come up with. If I wasn't a subscriber of your channel I never found this little tool. So I am very happy with it. It was an instant buy at steam. I know I am having a 4090 in my system with a lot of RAM and still gain even more buttery smooth experiences, even with all the setting as ultra as it can be. Man thank you very much for this. You made my day,..... again!.

This feels great and in my opinion superior to the fg mod. Whilst my counter was reporting 65fps with the fg mod, the nature of the jittering and stuttering made it never quite feel truly like 65fps. With lossless scaling, I experience none of those drawbacks and the 65fps feels authentic. A buttery smooth experience. Cheers once again islandsimpilot ;)

Thank you for this 🎉🎉

If i would have all the framerate increases they promised me from 3 years ago till now, i would have around 1200 fps I have only 34 to 42..... Well i bought it and i get 60 fps now! some artifacts with fast moving planes but i am happy!

This tool can be use for almost all games with all graphic cards. It really useful for those who don't have rtx 4000 series graphic card or unsupported game frame gen like X-plane or Prepar3D.

One thing thats important to remember is that there is no such thing as free frames. Frame generation trades off input latency for those additional frames. Heres why, the gpu renders 2 frames into the frame buffer. These would normally leave the buffer and get sent to the monitor as soon as they are ready but because frame gen needs time to render an intermediary frame, the frames are held in the buffer long enough for the software to finish generating a new frame. Sure this only takes milliseconds but for certain types of games (and gamers), milliseconds added to response times could ruin the experience

Amazing video. Your content is so great. My monitor is 75hz. No idea whether it will work. I'm afraid of it not working properly. And one question: what about input lag? I'm asking this because I've had a not so good experience with the Frame Gen Mod. It gives me 120ms of input lag (gameplay feels so laggy). Thank you!

Hello ! Thank you for this video ! Just a question: how do you know your monitor refresh rate ?

Great video Islandsim! One questing, my GPU isn't populating in the lossless scaling app when selecting the proffered GPU. Do I have to add it manually and if so how do i do that?

Using it on the Lenovo Legion GO and it is great for MSFS.

Really wish they could come up with something like this for VR.

For all the people saying "this didn't fix things for me" your slightly missing the point.This really benefits the poeple who have extra processing power either GPU/CPU but it is being restricted by normal "bottlenecking". I have a AMD Ryzen 7 3700X and a 5700XT and this made a pronounced difference while also running FSTL and MSFS AutoFPS. Mileage may vary so the saying goes.

this also works great for movies(prime and what not) and youtube. just click full screen and then activate lossless with the short cut ctrl-alt-s and no more 24fps videos.

I wonder if the AutoFPS app can be used with this or if it would even be needed?? I currently run 30fps locked in-sim with 1/2 refresh on a 60hz monitor (actually 120 but run it at 60).

Hi There Fantastic Video much apreachiated I have it up and running and its excellent its managed to improve smoothness even with my 4090 One quick question Do you have the ingame Fram Gen Running while using this ? Not 100% sure what is best to do Many Thanks Paul

Great! so in the lossless app there is an option to turn on HDR support, that solved my crazy colour issue

Do I have to have frame gen installed for this to work, or does it work 100% via this new program?

Question.....Do you also have Frame Gen on in the Flightsim setting and also scaling from the lossless app ?

Great video. Do I need Steam running in the background or is this just a downloadable executable once I purchase from Steam?

Looks great! what about VR? would this increase FPS when in VR? Thanks!

Thanks for the suggestion.... first time I've had 120 fps (non-stuttery) FPS at iniBuilds KJFK with the Fenix, 4k with 100 TLOD, OLOD. FPS has never been an issue with FG on my i9 13900KS/4090 set-up, but I've never had completely smooth performance until now!

how do you manage the 3d settings at near end of your video with amd card?

Great Video. Does it work with 4090 and VR? Thanks

Excellent, thank you. Question: Since I have this program my upper right screen show the FPS, GPU%, CPU% and LAT, maybe because I check the "show FPS".... I don't like to have those information on my screen... What I have to do to end this???? Thanks

Hi. This is probably a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway and throw myself on the mercy of the community 🙂. I sim in 4k. Will I benefit from running this in 4k or do you have to run in lower resolutions for this to work? I currently use the frame gen mod which is very good but does have some downsides. Also, in the comments someone was saying you have to run games in "Windowed" mode. I use "Full Screen" only, does that mean it will not work?

Hello sir Ponce Mercedita airport is out in the marketplace

Okay I am trying this out but I think that it swaps frame rate for latency. My sim runs way smoother without it. Still trying stuff out but at the moment I think it might be a no from me.

Frame Generation does not work for VR.. however if you have day a midrange pc use openxr toolkit set resolution to about 80 percent and in game set DLLSS balance and rendering to low or even default boom maybe 90 Fps

Hi. Works like a dream, except !. I use pop out manager do offload three instruments to my panel displays.When I do so the frame rate tanks from 47 fps to 18 fps and with associated serious performance degredation. Any thoughts ?

Thanks for another great video, really excellent content. I installed this but when I switch it on, all the colours go wrong. Its working but looks terrible. It seems to be switching something. Found a thread on Reddit where others have the same problem but I cannot figure it out....something to do with HDR maybe ?? Any help would be appreicated.

I just tried this thinking I was wasting my time, I was getting 20 FPS on Meigs airfield now it genuinely looks like im getting 50 fps, this is hands down the best tool I have ever tried, there is a little jitter here and there but its going from unplayable to outright great experience. fyi I have an i9-10850k and a 3090

How do you do the things in NVCP on AMD? because you said it was compatible with AMD :)

OK I do not want to raise my hopes up as I have never, ever been able to get framegen to work correctly (high artifacts, stutter, frame issues, crashing, no multi monitor support, not able to show panels on the screen like charts as they got affected, etc). Having tried Lossless Scaling at first I had an issue with colours which I resolved by activating HDR and then I had freezing issue which I was only able to solve by changing the API from DXGI to WGC (not sure what is the difference between the 2 and I have not tried the GDI as I do not know what differs between all the options). I was able to get the fenix at the gate of EGKK (panel status all ready), maxed the graphics to ultra, added traffic injectors, moved a couple of instruments panel to another monitor and so far seems to be OK. It stutters a little if I use the arrow keys to move inside the cockpit but the rest seems to be OK, just some light artefacts. I have not moved or completed a flight which I may do later and, as I am unable to show the Lossless FPS, I cannot tell how the sim is performing but I can see using the MSFS dev mode display frame that i get 15 fps and if I move the camera only 12/13 fps yet it does not feel like it is running at 12/13 fps or 15 fps but at much higher frame rate so I guess the mod is doing what it needs to do. It would be interesting to see what happened during a full flight but fingers crossed this seems to be the first frame gen mode that works for my 3080 without all the issues I had with the nexus mod. Thanks for the video Captain.

Hi Island Sim Pilot, thus, If I understood well, the frame generation option in the MSFS graphic panel must be disable. Am I correct? I have 240 Hz monitor with Nvidia 4090. In case of fps limit (that I don’t have at the moment) which fps number I have to consider for global setting and program setting. (Maybe 120/60) Thank you in advance for your help

Will it work on a 60Hz screen (a 4K TV currently displaying 60 fps)? Or should I consider a higher Hz frequency screen see improvements? And, should I anyway cap the fps in the simulator graphics settings l?

Turning on HDR Support in the LSFG App fixed the weird colors for me.

What's the difference between setting up 2x and 3x, is the latency different?

I have a 4070, so I get to use DLSS3 framegen, but with x3 framegen on this application, testing in the PMDG 736, I just got done with a flight where even with DLSS3 on my FPS were tanked in the mid 20s. With this I just tried and the FPS were in the high 80s, low 90s. I'd like to test this with a full flight forst before I say anything permanent, but it might just be for real, this thing. Even for those with GeForce 4000 cards. There IS a little extra blurriness with this, but I think it's worth it I'll take it happily as of right now.

I gave this a shoot, however I did not see any results. I run RTX 3090 locked at 30FPS and when active the screen becomes black or black borders. I run MSFS in borderless anyway partly as I always tapping out to view other programs that I have running like charts and STKP. It's smooth with it off and feels the same and smooth with it on. It's only Grey zone that I noticed a difference and even then it's not a must have. End of the day I only use one screen

Does anyone know how to fix? Mine works amazing it's just when I scale and look around my display becomes wavy..? like waves on my screen which makes it unpleasant to use

Have you installed the latest ving? the colors are not earthy. It's like a cartoon.

Hi! Can't add a FlightSimulator.exe to new profile! "You do not have permission wrights" error... The XboxGames folder is on C:. Run as Admin no effect. Trying to change permissions to folder and to *.exe itself, but unsuccessful. Any solutions?

I got a question, if I'm manually hard-capping my FPS to 120 (through Nvidia settings), but I have a game that dips below 120 fps during hectic actions scenes, and I enable this, is it wasting resources generating extra frames above my frame cap? Or will it stay capped at 120, and then only "kick in" with the frame generation when my frames start dipping? The game is pretty much running at a perfect 120fps 90% of the time, I don't need it doubling my FPS all the time, beyond what I have hardcapped. It would be an awesome way to avoid any frame input latency when the game is running smooth, so you'd only notice any slight input latency when the frames start dipping, even thought visually, my FPS just stays hard locked at 120. I got Selaco, which is CPU heavy, so when you put all the destruction and debris up to max and start fighting multiple enemies, you notice frame dips as the smoke and debris starts piling up. I'd love to use this to kinda only "kick in" as my frames drop below my hard cap, and then when my hardware goes back to the normal 120, the input latency and frame generation kinda stops, since I don't need extra frames above the 120 hard cap.

Do I have to have Steam app running when using this software?

Seems great for a 120Hz monitor. Personally I have a 60Hz Freesync monitor. When I turn this program on it takes away like 6-7 fps and double the frame rate. But I get about 45/50FPS without the program and prefer just to have the Freesync and 45/50FPS combo rather that the Frame generation visual artifacts. Would probably use it if I was to get a 120Hz monitor, maybe soon waiting for a 120Hz 27-Inch 4K OLED monitor to become a bit more affordable.

Does this help on a computer that can only run the game in low/medium settings?

Does motion blur help to smooth out that small effects you can see when fast panning ?

Is this better than native frame gen (with a 40 series)?

I don't know what I'm doing wrong with all of these framge generation and DLSS stuff but I never get any difference in fps. What am I doing wrong?

In my experience, things that seem to be too good to be true, often bring some marginal improvement. However, having had to reinstall the game twice in 6 months, I'm sticking with balancing the in-game options, Nvidia control panel options, basic Windows optimisation, Bios optimisation and then incremental hardware upgrades (although these need to be balanced - upgraded from an overclocked GSX960 to an RTX3060 v2 with mild overcoming, to only get maybe 5fps improvement). Sticking now until FS2024 released before evaluating anymore time/cost investment...!

Do i need to use the frame gen mod to use this?

Thanks for the video! But I have a big problem. At high altitudes, the terrain image becomes completely blurred/distorted. Any ideas on how to adjust?

What about the latency between LSFG & FG mod?

Hi, I have now this issue with timeouts ... but with the older driver. I had todo the obligate windows 11 update KB5039212. It was automatic, turned off automatic update on windows. However windows did the update ... now it hangs "timeout" like every 2 minutes more or less... what I also experience is that the tunings I made on the PC was reset. I had to redo everything. What the hell Microsoft is doing on an update ... reseting everything? Was so nice to fly the last weeks now everything broken :(

Great to hear! im wondering, I LOVE the Framegen MOD, in the air I have 60fps constantly, but on ground with heavy scenery I hit below 20fps, but the framegen mod keeps it higher and playable, but with heavy artifacts. So my question: Can I run this LSFG when my actual frames are below 20fps without having heavy artifacts? Does it require DX12? If I have the answers of these questions it could save me some money or have a better flightsim experience :) Thanks in Advance!

A fan. Could you share a link to where we can find this? Or how do you use this (or download this) if you have the store version of msfs?

Hi. I'm confused (and it doesn't take a lot!). I have a RTX 4060ti. Would you recommend using this over the in-game Frame Generation mode, or not?

Hi no Game Profile showing for me in the top left only default help needed Thanks

Can you do a quick video showing your Nvidia control panel settings?

Maybe you should reconsider your testing scenario(s). Not much of a point using a scenario with already good FPS not using any frame generation. What about KLAX with AI traffic and Fenix A320?

does it work with VR?

Do I have to run Steam on the background in order to run this Program?

Is there away to remove the black border that takes up the rest of the screen - I want to able to use this software while the sim is in borderless and in a small window, since I use a single screen, my flight sim is in small window mod and then I have other programs displayed behind the sim that I can always see it as well as I fly

What its the diference between this and the FS2020 AutoFPS? I mean about MS FS2020 performance, not into other games

Lossless is a game changer for me, since I have a GTX 1660 Super and I can get a little bit more than 30 fps. So, 60 fps with LL. A good tip here: turn off VSync, fix 30 fps on driver settings and also Fast sync mode on VSync options. It will run with no stuttering and fluid.

The frame gen mod before this started being jittery randomly during flights near airports. I hope this works (paid $6.99 to try it)

is there away to apply this to VR

looks great for 2d but does it work in VR ?

Any place to get this program besides Steam?

Hey mate, just confirming - if I have a RTX3070 do I need to activate Frame Generation for this to work (As I do not have the Frame Generation option in the graphics settings / card does not come default with it) ? Or will this work regardless of not having Frame Generation activated at all ?

Hi. How to set it up on 144 hz monitor if you said I need at least 40 fps at 2K? 1/2 is 72 fps 1/3 fps is 48 fps.

Can you use it with dx11 as whenever i turn on dx12 sim freezes

What settings would you use for AMD cards? When you have a dual monitor setup. I cant go the the second monitor with my mouse anymore.

Of im gettinf 20fps on ultra do i use lossless ans keep it ultra .or.do i go ro medium graphics rhen add lossless to x3 ? Thx

Hi..great video.. I tried this, but quick question, I have 3 monitors.. does this apply to all 3 or only the center monitor..when this is enabled I can only move my mouse on the center monitor? When it's off I can move the mouse to any monitor? Thanks for your thoughts..

You don’t have shuttering in some games borderless ?

Hi, I am not able to select fs.exe. It says that I have no rights/permission for doing this. How can I fix it???

I try. Works good but i don't have 2.1 and i can't select my GPU (4070ti) but only auto. Have a "more stutters" than Frame generation and when i back on fs menù the lossless disconnect. I wait for update to 2.1 and retry. Thanks for your video tutorial!

Didi you have any trouble using 2 monitors.... I can´t use the second use after start scaling. The mouse won´t jump to the second monitor at all.

Works with VR?

Pro tip: It has a switch labeled "Performance" below the mode. Turn it on.

Hi , just purchased it, but when I use it in Msfs, it crashes when moving to different views ( pilot view to wing view). Tried your settings but still hangs up.. any suggestions would be appreciated.. have a gtx3070

Does anyone know what’s going on with the Nvidia filter? My colors get over exposed even with the filter selected off. I have to make a filter where brightness/ contrast is turned way down and it still looks weird