Wait, you CAN download FPS now?!? Lossless Scaling Frame Generation x3 Review

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There are so many fake or useless programs that claim to boost your FPS in games, but Lossless Scaling can actually do it! But like other frame generation techniques, there are certainly cons along with the pros. In this video we test out LSFG x2 and the new x3 mode.
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Chapters:
0:00 Tripling FPS with LSFGx3
0:50 YT can't show you 120FPS, but I can do 50% speed slow mo
1:06 Image artifacts caused by frame generation
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3:36 So should you use LSFG?
4:05 Discussing Lossless Scaling app, how it works, why it has pros and cons
5:45 It doesn't work with g-sync (doesn't support variable refresh rate)
6:26 LSFG won't be as good as DLSS 3 or FSR 3, it's more like AFMF
7:28 Some discussion of LSFG vs AFMF
7:41 You have to run the game at an even factor of your monitor's refresh rate
8:23 The higher your base FPS before FG, the better it looks and feels
8:49 Testing LSFGx2 to go from 60FPS to 120FPS
9:56 Enabling FG has a performance cost, so you need some headroom
10:25 This will work better in some games and situations than others
11:45 Bypassing Elden Ring's 60FPS cap via LSFGx2
13:29 Final Thoughts

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@danielowentech 27 дней назад

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@adamtajhassam9188 27 дней назад

download fps and ruin ur ssd no thanks.

@KurisuKun 27 дней назад

Was excited to try Jawa but it’s US only :(

@Qohen 27 дней назад

for die lossless scaling leads to higher power consumptio and lower fps o0

@GrugGaming 26 дней назад

DANIEL I HAVE A REQUEST. PLEASE TRY THIS APP ON ARMA REFORGER, PLEAAAASEEEEEEEEEE

@panzerofthelake4460 26 дней назад

hey I have a question what program do you use to record the FPS on the top left corner of the screen?

@-psycho-0 27 дней назад

Finally, I can download more ram

@Mayeloski 27 дней назад

well, we can buy it in this case lol

@jonahhekmatyar 27 дней назад

Imagine using some Internet service as a super high latency ram disk, lmao

@ascensionlunar1 27 дней назад

@@jonahhekmatyaryou don't have to imagine, people ARE using it

@Vysis 27 дней назад

@@Mayeloski lol you can always buy more ram/fps but this is a lot cheaper

@perfectgaming788 27 дней назад

😅

@phm04 27 дней назад

it went from downloading RAM to FPS, man this is great

@Xnitro07 16 дней назад

Get this man 1k likes because I was 999th

@phm04 16 дней назад

@@Xnitro07 why did THIS comment blow up? 😭

@supermir168 4 дня назад

So u mean this is fake sorry im stupid

@judasthepious1499 4 дня назад

next we need to download the internet to increase our downloading speed

@initialds4903 27 дней назад

Any fps boost without needing of upgrading a gpu is always welcome for budget gamer

@rodiculous9464 27 дней назад

Not if you're playing pvp game

@baris0.1 27 дней назад

@@rodiculous9464 Most pvp games like cpu performance anyway. If you want more fps just reduce graphics settings.

@rodiculous9464 27 дней назад

@@baris0.1 people who are looking at this software are struggling for frames at minimum settings already. Also most people play pvp games at minimum settings already anyways bc it gives an advantage

@baris0.1 27 дней назад

@@rodiculous9464 better than nothing

@via_negativa6183 27 дней назад

Or those of us that don't want to upgrade from the 20 series due to the features Nvidia removed. If you know you know...

@Wolfentodd 23 дня назад

“Hey choom, this gonk has been running around the street for 20 minutes. You think hes gonna go psycho?”

@Yuriyalloween 17 дней назад

I want this to be the top comment so bad.

@grapehool7699 5 дней назад

@@Yuriyalloween I want you so bad

@BagelMaster4107 27 дней назад

oh my god I can download fps now too, just like all the ram I downloaded yesterday!

@PhazerTech 27 дней назад

Damn you beat me to it. Downloading RAM was the first thing that came to mind.

@igyysdaddy191 27 дней назад

i downloaded some brain cells here

@riffdex 27 дней назад

Just be careful downloading ram. I downloaded some last year and caught a virus 😞

@Maximus5641 27 дней назад

@@riffdex i think you may have downloaded more storage not RAM

@BagelMaster4107 26 дней назад

@@Maximus5641 you can download storage too??? no way! I'll be doing that tonight thank you for the insight

@LuismaLorca 27 дней назад

The Elden Ring is actually the best example possible, because the only way to unlock the framerate is disabling online mode and anti-chear, but with this software you can play at 120 or 180fps with online and no anti-cheat issues.

@band0lero 26 дней назад

Yup, I actually played it recently with LSFG at 120fps, and while it wasn’t perfect (some artifacts were noticeable and slowdowns on frame drops) it was far better than native 60fps.

@diomed96 26 дней назад

Great point! If we didn't have modding support for ER, that'd be the only way to play it above 60fps. Come to think, I gotta check how it works on DS1 remastered

@carneromichael 25 дней назад

Do you know if nvidia has something equivalent like AMD FSR native?

@valentinvas6454 24 дня назад

I really hope they drop a 120FPS patch after the DLC. If Armored Core 6 can run at 120 there shouldn't be any obstacle for Elden Ring to do the same. Especially since there is no cross play so it's not like I can invade a PS4 player who's playing at 30 while I'm at 120.

@LuismaLorca 24 дня назад

@@band0lero Yes, certainly not perfect but better than 60fps. And being able to play online normally and not fearing the anti-cheat is a great plus, not only for ER but for all games that feature anti-cheat.

@bellicsson4171 26 дней назад

YES, Thank you for noticing this software, it is the goat of frame generation in my opinion, it works on literally anything that is in borderless or windowed mode. I'm happy to see it finally receiving some well deserved recognition

@user-hm4lw4ye4g 22 дня назад

Can it work on fullscreen applications and game? Like for example if I use it in apex legends fullscreen, will it work?

@bellicsson4171 22 дня назад

@@user-hm4lw4ye4g It might work because from what I've learnt not every software applies Fullscreen in the same way, but most of times when you use it on "real" Fullscreen where you need to alt+tab to other applications, it will probably crash with video scheduler error (at least that's what happens to me with Fullscreen)

@endmymiseryyy7908 22 дня назад

@@user-hm4lw4ye4gread his comment again, but slowly.

@notaburner3918 21 день назад

Yep! Ever since the DXGI update, it works on Fullscreen apps!

@Whiskeyagogo519 17 дней назад

Glad to hear it's the goat I just $ purchased thru steam and it went from 57 fps to 87 fps my online game

@gabriell5714 27 дней назад

The best part about this is it works on RU-vid videos. We finally have can have something better than 60fps.

@1DigitalFlow 27 дней назад

No, you cant

@kaimanic1406 27 дней назад

@@1DigitalFlow Yes, you can. I watched this video with 120fps.

@Navi_Silver 27 дней назад

Lol no@@kaimanic1406

@gimlifan12 26 дней назад

@@kaimanic1406 Oh god we have a new soap opera effect pandemic

@Nicolo-ue9xu 26 дней назад

@@gimlifan12Joke on you I have always kept the setting of a higher frame on my TV because it looks nicer 😂 now call me a crazy bastard.

@videogaminbiker889 27 дней назад

When you get your new 240Hz/480Hz monitor, you should re-test the 3x mode in both the 240Hz and 480Hz modes. It would be really interesting to see if you can do it, how well it looks, how well it runs, etc. Using frame gen to go from very low fps to marginally higher fps, while it does have legitimate uses and is one of the main selling points of the app atm, feels like underselling the potential of frame gen as we push higher refresh rates.

@Frogga_UFO 27 дней назад

I guess i will look like if someone took 120hz and put upon them a ton of motion blur. Basically like playing on 240hz cheap VA panel with high respons times and lots of ghosting. So it will come to the point- whether you like a ton of motion blur or not. Personally i see no reason to enable FG when u already can play at 120 without it. I would rather take better motion clarity when rotating the camera than over blurred picture

@DesocupadoXtremo 27 дней назад

3x from 160 to hit 480hz would be awesome

@Dempig 27 дней назад

@@DesocupadoXtremo You cant even tell the difference between 160 and 480 fps

@DeSinc 27 дней назад

@@Dempig yes you can it's very clear, even a jump from 144 to 165 is noticeable, 480fps is unbelievable in person

@wondercat6169 27 дней назад

You most definitely can@@Dempig

@StatusQuo209 27 дней назад

I've been using LS since it launched. The app has single handedly saved me from upgrading my GPU nearly as much.

@michahojwa8132 27 дней назад

I've started with fsr1. FG is nice for 4k60 movies from phone and to streaming anime and Netflix (turn off browser gpu acceleration).

@Shahzad12357 27 дней назад

Can this be used on any gpu "literally"

@sinenomine4540 27 дней назад

I doubt that.

@michahojwa8132 27 дней назад

@@Shahzad12357 Don't know if there are limits - it may be that it runs on every gpu.

@michahojwa8132 27 дней назад

I'm using it since fsr1 and 2x for zelda botw and movies streamed from browser.

@Aokimarcel 25 дней назад

I think one of the biggest use cases, including mine, is for handhelds. It works great on legion go, specially since the screen is smaller it's harder to see artifacts, but still makes the game smoother

@e.d.v.8202 21 день назад

Can't agree more, on Rog Ally, it really does miracles , I can now reach 50/60 fps with medium settings 1080p for re4, callisto protocole, the last of us without having to rely on fsr as i did before, I am so happy

@creciundaniel8534 13 дней назад

You know amd fluid motion frames is a thing right? Exactly the same thing as lossless maybe even better

@newkickztv 27 дней назад

This technology is a godsend for handheld devices, where the screen size will mask a significant portion of the artifacting (hopefully). I would love to see a handheld pc test with this app!

@Anon-cv7ru 27 дней назад

Even on normal screen if you dun zoom in probably not easy to notice it also...

@AbrahamZX1 27 дней назад

Works great on my ROG Ally with Persona 3 Reload.

@MagikarpPower 26 дней назад

would it work on steam deck?

@lilpullout 26 дней назад

@@MagikarpPower try checking the steam page instead of asking in youtube comments dumb fuccer

@Anon-cv7ru 26 дней назад

@@MagikarpPower Got to check if the app works on SteamOS.

@MDW001 27 дней назад

One of the really cool things about this is that it doesn't just work in games. It also works for youtube/twitch/whatever video streaming in a web browser as long as you watch in full screen!

@damara2268 27 дней назад

Yeah, the guy behind this tool must be a genius. AMD and Nvidia have ton of developers and they didn't even try this

@ryanspencer6778 27 дней назад

It works better for this. It's cool that a single guy made something that can take me from around 30fps to 60, but the image quality is just not good enough for gaming, at least at lower base framerates. But on RU-vid videos I went from 60fps to 70-80fps on a 4k video. Not as many artifacts either, but there are some in fast motion. Edit: I watched an LTT stream replay and it went from 1080p 30 to 1080p 60, and it looks almost perfect since there's not much motion. Definitely worth the $7 if you want to watch talking head videos at 60fps. It isn't a threat to either AMD or Nvidia's frame generation, but for watching movies and TV shows at higher fps I'm sure it would be pretty good. Something that I really like about it is that I can set it to run on my integrated graphics so the overhead doesn't affect the performance of the dedicated GPU.

@userblame632 27 дней назад

@@damara2268isn’t this tech similar to AFMF and frame smoothing that some TVs have?

@conyo985 27 дней назад

@@ryanspencer6778 It's a threat to SVP. A video frame interpolation software. I found that software to be too expensive. Hence I never bought it. LSFG is cheaper. I can't wait to try x3 mode in games and movies.

@TheACTIONZ 27 дней назад

@@ryanspencer6778 you can always 🏴‍☠️

@rcmp09 27 дней назад

Please try this again when you get the 480hz OLED monitor. Would be cool to see how it scales at much higher refreshes. Might be good to see if these technologies allow us to use super high refresh monitors without being bottlenecked by current CPU/GPUs.

@Valkyrie_au 23 дня назад

love it for my 360hz 1440p, definitely works better when the frames are above 100, compared to the 40 Daniel was capping his at.

@ocerco93 23 дня назад

the higher the better, for 480hz, u'll see no difference between native and interpolated 480 fps for sure.

@JagsP95 22 дня назад

@@ocerco93you will always see artifacting, i still do at 390hz. But its very much playable and the input lag isnt as apparent.

@JamesPound 21 день назад

I'm sure he'll do this, drop $3000 for one RU-vid comment to find out

@rcmp09 21 день назад

@@JamesPound The monitor costs around $1500 I believe. And I'm only asking since he posted a video about how he already ordered the monitor.

@raymondstewart3350 27 дней назад

This can be super helpful for slow-paced games that are very cpu limited. For instance, I'm using this right now on Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous and it keeps Act 4 above 100 FPPS instead of mid-50s, which even on a slower paced game, definitely contributes to perceived smoothness.

@damara2268 27 дней назад

Also great for tons of older games that either have 60fps frame limit or their physics break above 60fps

@userblame632 27 дней назад

Gonna use this for Noita. I love the game but damn the 60fps lock is brutal. What a godsend

@GrugGaming 26 дней назад

@@damara2268 fallout nv would prolly be great

@ogrimzyz8643 21 день назад

@@GrugGamingit’s a godsend for fallout and elder scrolls fans, got my heavily modded Bethesda games running at over 100 fps easy. I don’t get really noticeable ghosting like in this video because I’m using the x2 mode and locking at 60. It’s sorcery of some kind

@youtuvi7452 27 дней назад

FYI if you get the game to 60 fps or more and activate lossless scaling the artifacts diminish substantially EDIT: Don't forget that the app only works with windowed mode on the games, if you play fullscreen exclusive it wont work

@nuruddinpeters9491 27 дней назад

This is helpful to know... I will buy it and test on games without framegen

@user-xh8ot6xm5w 26 дней назад

Works fine in exclusive fullscreen. You just don't know what you're doing. Just like this RU-vidr saying freesync doesn't work with Lossless Scaling, it in fact does. Windowed mode = vsync is forced. You also need to properly cap framerate to use freesync.

@panzerofthelake4460 26 дней назад

it does work in borderless windowed mode so that's basically full-screen. I tried No Man's Sky in Fullscreen, not borderless or anything, and it works.

@ocerco93 25 дней назад

Fullscren works with DX12 games.

@jujuu1339 17 дней назад

@@ocerco93 wow i could barely find info about this. I was frustrated I couldn't run RDR2 in full screen (i know rdr2 can use dx12 but vulkan runs smoother for me)

@cajampa 27 дней назад

Thanks Daniel, I have been wanting to see you cover this for a long time.

@sixtyinsix 27 дней назад

This is going to keep a lot of non-upgradable low end gaming laptops (GTX 1650 etc) out of the landfill. I'd love to see this operating on a MX 350 gpu laptop. I have a Thinkpad with a Quadro P620 4gb for casual gaming, this might extend it's gaming life another few years.

@archardor3392 27 дней назад

Unfortunately, Frame gen works best when you are CPU bottlenecked. So this won't really extend the life of old GPUs but old CPUs.

@PabloB888 27 дней назад

This application doesnt work very well on my pascal GPU (GTX1080). It seems more powerful GPU is needed. I can only run performance mode on my GTX1080, but I do not like the results.

@14supersonic 27 дней назад

I even use this on my 2060 laptop. I wouldn't have to upgrade it for at least several more years because of this kind of tech.

@user-xh8ot6xm5w 25 дней назад

No, no it's not. Lossless scaling is for mid-high end GPU, not old outdated GPU. Old outdated GPU isn't powerful enough to have a good base frame rate. Mid-high end GPU is powerful enough to have a high base frame rate, so frame generation latency is way less noticeable.

@hughjaenus2235 20 дней назад

@@14supersonic How is it? i also have a 2060 laptop (MSI GF63 2060, I7 10750h, 16gb ram) and i'm wondering if it has input lag like AMD Frame gen? I'd love to try Ghost of Tsushima cause Frame gen ads like a second input delay

@NMusic42 27 дней назад

You can use it for any apps including browsers and video players (so it'll be like SVP).

@White-nl8td 26 дней назад

Bypassing 60 FPS limit of some older games is the highlight of the video. I always wanted to play Assassin's creed Black Flag at 120 FPS (its engine is locked at max 60 fps); I shall give this a try. 😊

@FDAMENTAL 21 день назад

there are mod for Assasin creed black flag for unlock fps , nexusmods 240 FPS Patch .

@White-nl8td 20 дней назад

@@FDAMENTAL thanks for the info. I see that mod was created recently. Will try with that. Cheers 🥳

@hughjaenus2235 20 дней назад

Black Flag is legendary, it's my most wanted Remaster, but i don't trust Ubisoft with remasters. Imagine the ocean with next gen physics and all the effects during a heavy naval battle

@sews1523 17 дней назад

Cute comment

@arghpee 27 дней назад

So glad you're showing off Lossless Scaling. It is an amazing application.

@cnmoro55 27 дней назад

I am using this on forza motorsport. With raytracing on, my gpu simply can't maintain a high fps, but it can keep it at stable 50fps. My cockpit monitor is 100Hz and it just works absolutely perfectly

@honoredshadow1975 22 дня назад

Did you have to turn off G-Sync? I did not have to to play Crew 2. I just used a borderless fullscreen and it worked great even with it on.

@cnmoro55 22 дня назад

@@honoredshadow1975 I am not using gsync, Just regular vsync

@Karan-un8uz 6 дней назад

Did the added latency not bother you? It's making the game unplayable for me its very noticeable.

@cnmoro55 6 дней назад

@@Karan-un8uz on 50 base FPS, the latency is barely noticeable, but on 30 its too much

@honoredshadow1975 6 дней назад

@@Karan-un8uz Doesn't bother me online in The Crew 2 if that helps. I'm gaming on OLED.

@MadManCorp 27 дней назад

Very informative video. Thanks for your hard work! Love the technical side of PC gaming.

@omazing2 26 дней назад

I've been trying out LSFG 2.0 in performance mode on Baldurs Gate 3 going from a locked 60 fps to 120 with it on and ive got to say it looks pretty damn good. Input latency seems fine too. What's weird is that, to my eyes at least, it doesn't seem to affect the UI in that game at all. The UI and menu elements seem to render at the native 60 while all other graphics are being upped to 120. It was a little jarring at first but I've gotten use to it. It also seems like a decent compromise considering this frame gen tech doesn't always seem to handle UI elements very well in other games. Also, I don't really notice much if anything in the way of visual artifacts when panning the camera. I'm sure if I really got in close & pixel peeped I might notice something; but for the most part it looks fine in motion when playing the game normally, even with performance mode enabled.

@badzilla1173 27 дней назад

When can i download cpu cores or even a 4090?

@davidsmith4186 27 дней назад

Coming quarter 4! Lol

@WickedRibbon 27 дней назад

Temu

@genlongtsang1093 19 дней назад

@@WickedRibbonlol

@BrandanFischer 24 дня назад

I've been interpolating 50fps to 100fps on my secondary 1440p 100hz monitor and it's insanely smooth with controller. My PC can push well past 50fps in games but using this tech with controller games not only bumps the smoothness, but also reduces temps, power usage and overall noise my system makes. Super cool tech! Also for emulation it's been absolutely incredible. I was replaying Twilight Princess on Dolphin and I have never seen this game run so smoothly. This software is worth every penny!

@jaydaytoday3548 27 дней назад

This is a god send for potable pcs like the Steam Deck running windows and Rog Ally.

@dylanallen7720 27 дней назад

I love a good potable pc

@HanSolo__ 27 дней назад

I mean, you can run almost everything with a PC made for about $500. All new parts. It will run a $200 or less than $300 graphics card but it will get the job done. Most people use such PCs.

@HunterTracks 27 дней назад

Not really, since it adds considerable overhead. In my experience, running only the frame gen component on my RX 660M iGPU while using the main GPU to actually render the game (which is a thing that you can do) already makes the iGPU run at 100% utilisation when generating from 60 to 120 FPS. It would probably have an aneurysm if I tried running the game itself on the iGPU, too, and RX 660M is pretty damn good as far as iGPUs go (it's basically just 20% weaker than the Steam Deck GPU).

@damara2268 27 дней назад

@@HunterTracksthe reported utilization of GPUs is not accurate at all especially when they're not working as the main renderer

@jemborg 27 дней назад

@@dylanallen7720 very thirst quenching.

@MrAlaxUA 23 дня назад

Crazy that just some guy made his own version of tech on which corpos spent millions and millions + years of work

@MrAlaxUA 23 дня назад

I am a game dev, trust me, it's impressive!

@hughjaenus2235 20 дней назад

Well the difference is. A passionate person will always beat a dozen of people who's only goal is to work for a paycheck and release a "good enough" product which the higher ups will release and market

@dumdum93 15 дней назад

And that millions + years of work made those tech better (Daniel in the video straight up said that DLSS3 and FSR3 are better).

@cunnyman 13 дней назад

@@dumdum93mhmm, DLSS and FSR are better but for your average eyes, this is enough. Also, AFMF, AMD’s predecessor to FSR3 is worse than this lol.

@electricant55 6 дней назад

@@dumdum93they’re better in some aspects but only work in selected games (esp FSR) or on very limited hardware, so they lose by default there

@ElYeso 27 дней назад

It looks the same with gsync off or on, you don't have to turn if off, and setting Reflex Ultra in the game does help a TON with the latency

@14supersonic 27 дней назад

You definitely do have to turn it off for certain games at least. I've noticed that sometimes it can hurt performance in some cases with VRR displays.

@Aaron_Jason 27 дней назад

Just a heads up, in the current version VRR works, but only for AMD and Intel gpus. There is something going on with Nvidia and it's drivers that stops it from working. Now this could be different in the version you are using as it's not out yet.

@KN-592 27 дней назад

Man I love you lol, these titles and thumbnails are goated 😄

@AmiciCherno 8 дней назад

Really good video, right into the review without delay.

@PierreJeptha 26 дней назад

Lossless scaling was definitely one of my best recent purchases. I'm always recommending it to my buddies with aging gaming setups

@Knox420 20 дней назад

I don't care if it looks like 120fps. Does it feel like 120 fps!?

@austinjones7569 12 дней назад

Probably feels better than the actual fps but not as good as the fps it’s portraying. Nerdy sorta assumption here: The reason higher fps feels better (other than perceived smoothness) is because the frame being drawn has a tighter time window to generate, and so the input at that point the frame is drawn is closer to the actual input at any given instant (think crosshair). This would imitate that, so the generated frames would probably be closer to the input at the current moment. But, it’s an approximate so actual 120fps would still be closer- maybe not by much, depending on how close the approximation is, but still closer. And if there is an actual input delay based on fps, that wouldn’t be affected. But most of the time, the input delay is because of the input not being as up-to-date as higher fps.

@ReikiMaulana День назад

Don't mistake LSFG as a performance mod that you can just turn on.. To me it's more like a graphical enhancement mod that make the game look better instead of making it run better, Although so far it is definitely better than DLSS and FSR in terms of availability and performance.

@WhiteWolfTechGaming 27 дней назад

That artifacting stuff is what my Samsung TV does when I turn on the anti-jutter the TV has in their settings. It makes things a lot smoother looking for sure, but reticles and other static things look just like they do in this video.

@jackg_ 17 дней назад

This was honestly the best video I’ve seen covering this app, now I actually understand what it is and why it is cool.

@ryujigames2509 27 дней назад

I've been using it for months now. Getting 120 FPS in any AAA game on high settings is so cool. There is minimal to no artifacts (in x2 version at least) and the latency is minimal. You won't feel the latency in most game (I do not recommend it with FPS game tho)

@Not_ur_Buddy 27 дней назад

I tried AlanWake 2 (mostly mid + High texture + High LOD) & Callisto Protocol (hight default preset)on gtx 1660ti capped at 45fps via nvidia control panel. Both ran Stable ~75-90 fps.

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 27 дней назад

Don't use LSFG on Alan Wake 2, use FSR3 mod instead. You will get lower latency, exclusive fullscreen support, VRR support and better image quality.

@Not_ur_Buddy 27 дней назад

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat I think it has a Subscription Model. I prefer owning. Honestly I don't mind the trade-off but yes MOD seemed better.

@lilpain1997 21 день назад

@@Not_ur_Buddycancel sub. Although I personally wouldn't buy it anyway. But there are options of just buying it once and cancelling

@hanovar9233 16 дней назад

On cp2077 the fsr mod is worse than this program @DragonOfTheMortalKombat

@OOOcannal 26 дней назад

I bought the LS a long time ago, when they launched the first version of the FSR1 and since then it has evolved A LOT! I'm playing all the games that don't have a native frame gen with it and I'm enjoying it a lot! With a monitor that has Freesync the game looks incredible and I don't feel any input lag

@jonnyrouse830999 27 дней назад

I have used this software for a while and love it!

@adink6486 27 дней назад

My lossless only 2.82 with LSFG 2.0 even with beta participation on Beta in steam. Guess I'll have to wait for the dev to release it.

@ocerco93 27 дней назад

6 June

@PolewkaW 27 дней назад

Thank you for covering that topic. I bought this app 2 weeks ago but after some test in games (including FPS type of games) I was wondering if FSR3 would be better than losless scalling. Unfortunetly I wasn't able to measure the performance

@HunterTracks 27 дней назад

In my experience, modded FSR3 is much better in terms of latency and overhead.

@Rowy_ 27 дней назад

fsr3 is far superior its not even close actually, specially if its built in within the asynchronous compute of the game like ghost of tsushima and hellbalde 2

@smallkomjia1446 27 дней назад

@@Rowy_ yes

@kennetha6594 26 дней назад

@@HunterTracks The point of this app is compatibility with emulators and older games that do not have any form of upscaling.

@HunterTracks 26 дней назад

@@kennetha6594 Well, you should really tell that to Daniel, because the video doesn't exactly represent that use case, now does it?

@itzdcx7991 17 дней назад

it's been a blast experimenting with this

@user-kz4ze4lv9n 12 дней назад

Ok, I was skeptical, but finally tried: wow, really a game changer. I use only X-Plane 12, with graphic settings which give me 60 fps (thanks to a good pc, and due to a 60Hz 4K tv, so having 60 fps cap in NVIDIA settings); so, lowered the fps down to 25 (raising the world objects density, the antialising and the rendering resolution - all of them at maximum), and you know what? Applying Lossless fps went up to 60, with new higher quality and smooth as hoped. Really a great product! The price? Satisfatcion and results are guaranteed, not even thinking of it, more than worth. Next step for me now a 120Hz 4K tv to further raise the fps. Team did a very good job.

@Instrumental153 27 дней назад

Disagreeing with you, lossless scaling is much better than AMD AFMF, I play at 30fps (60fps) and it is incredible with all games, especially if you use a joystick controller, consuming only 10% of my humble GTX1070.

@g.eberling8700 26 дней назад

That was my question. So you would say it is worth it to spend the money even with AMD gpu and AFMF?

@user-xh8ot6xm5w 25 дней назад

First of all, you are using an Nvidia GPU so you can not comment on AFMF. Second, you're playing at 30fps so you really should not comment.

@Instrumental153 25 дней назад

@@user-xh8ot6xm5w First, you're pathetic my friend, I've already tested AMD AFMF on another computer and it's bad, second, playing at 30fps using lossless FG 2.0 is very good, you should try it.

@Instrumental153 25 дней назад

@@g.eberling8700 yes!!!

@g.eberling8700 25 дней назад

@@user-xh8ot6xm5w You're right ..

@huxcry78 27 дней назад

I also use the lossless scaling app frame generation when i watch videos, it works on youtube, twitch... 30fps videos become 60fps that's really cool.

@actu День назад

This works on browsers? How neat!

@emmanuila7747 26 дней назад

This application has a purpose and is progressing very well so far. The point is to get higher fps to any game save power close to the half if you upscale with LS1 and push also the sharpness up or down if needed.

@jptremblay9475 27 дней назад

Thanks Daniel for these insightful videos. Would you consider benching Gpus but in VR games? There are not much quality content for.Pc hardware AND VR usage..

@dani43321 27 дней назад

Now you just need to stack FSR3, AFMF and LSFG for a 12x increase in FPS!

@monsterboomer8051 26 дней назад

stonks !!

@michi-fv2mf 26 дней назад

This would actually be fun to see

@zdim4469 25 дней назад

More than magic

@dingickso4098 23 дня назад

dont mind the latency tho

@alexphilip6004 27 дней назад

What is Gpu usage % spent on lossless scaling fg x3 mode compared to x2 mode and latency

@emmanuila7747 27 дней назад

Thanks for this! You lucky get the new update ! I like this application I like higher fps with low cost and with older hardware ....

@JimmyThree-Balls 21 день назад

so if you follow the video tutorial for the program, it says to lock the frame rate to half you display refresh rate so for 60htz you lock frames to 30 to get the frame generations full effect

@abc-ni9lp 27 дней назад

Now owners of 240-360Hz monitors can stretch their legs because they can play at the highest settings with perfect clarity in motion, someone who has been playing at 60Hz all their life will never understand it. And one more note, because @Daniel Owen forgot to add, when using this app, you should absolutely turn off motion blur or any effect that causes blur, such as depth of field, because it only serves to blur the image when we use 60Hz to hide it inperfections at motion.

@donloder1 26 дней назад

way to throw a shade on 60hz folks, real unecessarry.

@lilpullout 26 дней назад

you sound like a pretentious loser lmao

@CaveyMoth 25 дней назад

Wait until those 60hz fans discover 120hz OLED with black frame insertion.

@granglerarcade1950 27 дней назад

It also works on some emulators There was always a couple parts on star wars rouge squadron 2 dolphin emulator were you had a couple spikes in frame rate at the same points in the game running on Ryzen 5600x and Rtx 4070 with lossless scaling theses frame drops have gone.

@granglerarcade1950 27 дней назад

@@RicochetForce It is a bit strange on rpcs3 though on some games with a 60fps patch it does not like some of the Motorstorm but on some more demanding ones like killzone 3 you dont get a massive increase but it does make it smoother one good thing is i cant feel the input lag at all.

@granglerarcade1950 27 дней назад

@@RicochetForce On the Motorstorm games i get nearly 60fps and it does say in the overlay fromlossless scaling that it is working but you can tell its not i add Reshade Rtx to alot of older games without Dlss xess and Fsr and that Does Help I have just made up a Arcade Pack 246 for the Play! emulator might give it a go on that as some roms run slow early days for the emulator. I have complete Mame Megadrive Snes Thousands of roms and games i give them all away free people just send me an email and i send the links.

@adriankoch964 27 дней назад

This mod is amazing in demanding strategy titles, like warhammer 3. I tend to be cpu limited on the worldmap but with Lossless Scaling easily go back to my vsync limit. The added latency is no issue in an RTS.

@Dom_995 26 дней назад

I haven't had any problems with variable refresh rate using DXGI capture mode, the things you talked about apply for WGC mode. I wonder if they changed something with this preview version

@mitsubishidion8514 27 дней назад

Just downloaded new PC, thx

@mirumizure 26 дней назад

Tip: DXGI capture mode allows FrameGen to run at arbitrary framerates

@t.greene583 23 дня назад

What do you mean

@archardor3392 22 дня назад

@@t.greene583 WGC requires you to have have the FPS at a multiple of your max screen refresh rate. Dxgi does not and will upscale whatever frames you currently have.

@lincorecybergnida 22 дня назад

Heeyy! So glad to see LSFG finally getting more attention from others! I absolutely love it and it literally always runs on my PC even if I don't use it, kek. My favourite use of LSFG though is not games, it's movies and YT videos! Something I actually can't live without now after going to 165hz monitor from 60hz😅

@srknbyz 26 дней назад

good review bro thank you

@EndlessPlane 27 дней назад

Doing some tests with emulated games would be cool

@GentlyUsedFrog 27 дней назад

Wait you might be cooking

@GuyManley 27 дней назад

1000 year door with the 60fps mod, then LSFG to 120 was pretty fun.

@14supersonic 27 дней назад

Yeah, it works very well! Tired it in RPCS3 and Yuzu. Works great for 60FPS capped or game that hit about 40-60 frames. Give it a try.

@freestalkerdotfr6391 26 дней назад

@@14supersonic Did you try Dolphin ? I would like to test with an RX7900XTX when they get cheaper. Could FSR 3.x Frame generation work with emulators ?

@aemilianusmartinus5472 26 дней назад

Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi 3 plays nicely with LSFG!

@Lackesis 27 дней назад

With RTSS or Special K, you can enable Reflex on any kind of games, so you can play old games at 120 FPS without any issues.

@marcbob1111 25 дней назад

what is Reflex?

@SunnyWave174 14 дней назад

@@marcbob1111Basically a latency remover. Sort of.

@daviddinisphoto 22 дня назад

Is this worth getting for integer scaling? Basically just running a game at 1080 and upscaling to a 4k tv.

@ForceGMs 27 дней назад

Hey, is this technique the same as what TVs these days use to make games with lower frames per second feel smoother? Like, my Hisense U8K TV has a setting called High Refresh Rate.

@BillsOldandNewGaming 27 дней назад

Its worth a try for the price. I'm running a 3070 and on the settings I use for the latest games I'm usually 70 -80 fps so having a 144hz monitor this could be brilliant. I'll be taking a punt on it as its cheap. If it works well on the deck then its a game changer.

@ocerco93 27 дней назад

i recommend 72 FPS cap ! it will look super good

@jorge69696 27 дней назад

48 x3

@androsforever500 27 дней назад

need 10% constant headroom above minimum fps and this program increases input delay

@Batatero1 25 дней назад

@@androsforever500 The delay increase depends on your base framerate. 66.6ms for 30fps, 33.3ms for 60fps and so on.. It's a lot less noticeable than you might think, considering we all normally play with a lot of delay between mouse, keyboad, monitor and ping latency, but not something I'd use for PvP Shooter games.

@MaKTaiL 27 дней назад

VRR works on AMD GPUs.

@AbrahamZX1 27 дней назад

I use this on my ROG Ally mainly, so excited to try out 3x there. On my OLED 240Hz monitor the v1 was not great, even at 120Hz interpolated to 240Hz. I haven't tried v2 quality yet, so need to check that out.

@Athrein 17 дней назад

I bought this 2 minutes into watching this video. After messing around with it it is incredible how well it works in No Rest for the Wicked and Cities Skylines 2. I maxed everything in CS2 and the camera movement is so smooth now, even though it runs at 30 fps.

@keyycee5547 27 дней назад

I wonder how this feels on Star Citizen

@ytmandrake 27 дней назад

Really cool application that captures your screen via DXGI and then replays that captured image with postprocessing. It's essentially TV postprocessing and frame interpolation. That said, it's not the solution for underpowered hardware, sadly. It requires significant GPU power to process and replay the captured screen in real time. It's very good for 60 FPS locked titles, but not as good as injecting frame gen via FSR and dlssg which forces frame gen via FSR. Tried it on 30FPS to 60FPS, but the GPU utilization is essentially the same as running at 60 FPS natively on low end hw.

@theendoftheline 27 дней назад

This is a bandaid till DirectSR comes out

@damara2268 27 дней назад

GPU utilization is not accurate at all because it scales with GPU clock speed and that is changing a lot, especially inaccurate when the GPUs image processing capabilities are being used because it's hardly possible to combine rendering load and image processing load into one number. To test out how much performance it actually "eats" then run game uncapped then turn on the FG and check base game framerate. Then compare the base framerate with FG vs without FG and you will get how much performance it used for the FG. It should be around 20%

@theendoftheline 27 дней назад

@@RicochetForce no, dont understand that comment, youll be dumber for it

@theendoftheline 27 дней назад

@@RicochetForce lets break things down in to random terms like win and win more, than say THIS isnt magic, but an almost identical process DLSS, is magic? go back to start do not pass go do not collect 200 dollars

@ytmandrake 27 дней назад

@@damara2268 That is precisely how I tested it and it is simply not worth it since I can get native 60 FPS for the same processing power as postprocessing from 30 to 60 interpolated. This is on old ATI HD 6670 GDDR5

@ReikiMaulana День назад

With the recent update, this software is now officially the best frame Gen provider

@WT83 27 дней назад

This is pretty nice. I hope that one day we get a dynamic frame gen or caps on frame gen. I don't like the look of FG whenever I turn it on, but it's always generating a crap ton of extra frames. It's probably look straight if I could cap it and make a 45-60 fps title max at 60fps rather than FG trying to make it like 70-100.

@abc-ni9lp 27 дней назад

omg you are so tech illiterate , blind living in 60Hz world

@TillTheLightTakesUs 20 дней назад

You were going so well in your description. "There are so many fake or useless programs that claim to boost your FPS in games" You should've continued with "and Lossless Scaling is yet another one of them."

@SentakuuGaming 20 дней назад

yes its not worth it lol it reduces fps to 60 for me its a**

@ocerco93 27 дней назад

VRR just doesn't work on LSFG for Nvidia cards, it works on AMD or INTEL GPUs tho.

@lnterpolatedgaming 27 дней назад

It works on my pc, maybe something wrong with your settings

@OllieOtterOxen 27 дней назад

Is it because of display stream compression on your monitor?

@abc-ni9lp 27 дней назад

use HDMI2.1 to not compress

@ocerco93 25 дней назад

@@lnterpolatedgaming It doesnt work for nvidia cards, read carefully.

@ocerco93 25 дней назад

@@OllieOtterOxen It is because LSFG doesnt work with VRR for nvidia cards right now.

@ahiduzzamanahir1338 22 дня назад

One of the best ways to play with FSR 3 is to use a controller. The input lags during camera movement really helps reducing the artifacts in majority of the games

@Scoso88 10 дней назад

Incredible how well this works

@jekburri 25 дней назад

Tip: don't forget to enable globally NVIDIA low-latency mode so the latency cuts down by like 10 20 %

@xXDeiviDXx 24 дня назад

There's also the Allow Tearing option in LS if you don't mind seeing more artifacts

@alfonso5177 27 дней назад

When u put at 50% speed, we can set the video at x2 to see the 120fps (only if you have the monitor for that)

@cajampa 27 дней назад

Interesting, I have never heard this was possible on RU-vid before. Are you sure it is shown though? By looking at the stats for nerds setting for example? Does it really show 120 frames is shown, if you have a 120 hz monitor and run a 60 hz video at 2x? Very cool if true. That could be a very viable hack to show actual 120 hz videos on RU-vid that way.

@alfonso5177 27 дней назад

@@cajampa Yes, you need at least 120hz monitor and the video need too be running at 60fps, so u put it at x2.

@LessThanPeachy 27 дней назад

This type of software would be absolutely perfect on the Deck, especially the OLED one for those harder to run games but while still trying to get that 90hz refresh rate.

@Ruinya 26 дней назад

Using LSFG works on pretty much anything, too. I used LSFG to play God of War 2 at 120fps from the locked 60 that was available on PCSX2 and it had ZERO artifacts. Hell Let Loose is another game I used LSFG on and didn't notice much or any artifacts aswell.

@StefKRah 27 дней назад

I tested this with rpcs3 ps3 emulator, played some resistence fall of men and doubled 30fps up to 60 :). Worked really well and if you use a controller you barely feel a difference.

@Savitarax 27 дней назад

This works INCREDIBLY well in games like helldivers 2, It's not perfect, but this is so close that It works great for when I want a smooth game but don't quite have enough frames.

@omarcomming722 27 дней назад

It is not even close to perfect from my experience, it's riddled with artifacts during motion. I don't know what AMD frame gen looks like but Nvidia's is miles above this.

@Savitarax 27 дней назад

@@omarcomming722probably like early dlss fsr. Some hits and misses. Still very promising. What was your fps and specs

@TheIndulgers 27 дней назад

I’m cpu limited in HD2 so using AFMF from 80fps to 160fps has surprisingly good results.

@omarcomming722 27 дней назад

@@Savitarax The thing is that this can't really improve since in order to do that, you need access to the game's motion vectors. This and AMD driver interpolation can't be more than a small step above TV interpolation.

@FJaypewpew 27 дней назад

@@omarcomming722frame generation blows regardless nvidia included Cool technology Just too new

@maximrukinov3101 26 дней назад

Sorry for dumb question, but what if I have a 165Hz monitor and launch the scale in 180? Screen tearing? Is it that terrible?

@springmorning7177 26 дней назад

losslesss scaling is a game changer, i bought the app and using x2 is magic , freeking unbeliveble job, i really cant tell the difference between native 120fps and 120 fps frame gen with this app, that how great it is. Well done!

@Sotumney 26 дней назад

Lossless Scaling is black magic for 60fps locked games and emulators. It's just so darn nice to have some smoothness on games that aren't competitive.

@nicane-9966 27 дней назад

wait wait wait, are we close to donwload more RAM, the 20 years old meme may become true eventually????

@celestialsylveon6453 27 дней назад

I mean technically you can (down)load more ram for ages, it's called virtual memory, (known as pagefile on Windows, swapfile on Linux, idk about MacOS) and on an 8GB 2016 machine it's the difference between being able to run some games and not xP

@damara2268 27 дней назад

@@celestialsylveon6453on Linux it's even better, you get Zram (memory compression inside RAM, much much faster than pagefile)

@faketerror8844 День назад

I just have to mention this... Having frame gen on affects input lag and a game like Elden ring depends on your reflexes. So if you have lower input lag you have more time to react and get a bigger window to get the s. Anywaaay this is an awesome tool, story driven games like RDR2 could really use this for improving gameplay quality.

@Ace.20 День назад

Nvidia reflex or low latency mode really fix input lag with this app.

@RamenBlox 2 дня назад

I love new technology advancements man.

@ChrisKadaver 27 дней назад

Budget gaming hardware is getting better and better. What happens if you use FSR 3.1 frame generation in conjuction with lossless 3X the frames and hook it up to a samsung TV that can double the frames as well?! 😂 That I need to try. 4K ultra on a RX 580. And base framerate of 10fps. Who cares about input lag when modern games all are walking simulatiors more or less?! 😅

@ArdaU 27 дней назад

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

@WholesomePotato1 27 дней назад

5 second click-to-photon input lag, who cares 🤣

@ocerco93 27 дней назад

It does doubles the FPS, but more artifacts and more input lag.

@lolmao500 27 дней назад

@@ocerco93 When you played goldeneye multiplayer on n64 at 10 fps, this is nothing

@Ruben98RaptoR 27 дней назад

I think technically you could do it but it would have so many artifacts it would look hideous lol

@anthonyrizzo9043 27 дней назад

Now we have to use that on generated frames

@Rambozo79 17 дней назад

This is interesting. I wonder if the HUD elements can be isolated by using a black /white masking image to isolate image areas that contain HUD elements and restrict manipulation of those elements.

@JustMamba 9 дней назад

This is great for single-player games but not so much for competitive shooters just in case anyones wondering. Adds too much input lag, but its pretty great for everythinf else

@StriK3FoRC3OwO 27 дней назад

Funfact, this also works for videos you watch in your browser and any other media app (like vlc media player), means you can watch anime now with up to 3x the fps in real time!

@omairshafiq1998 26 дней назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@jhonlotos4784 25 дней назад

Yes, I'm watching movies 2x = 48fps, very excited about 3x fps = 72fps.

@HUNK_TZ 25 дней назад

why would you want to watch anime with fake frames 😮

@StriK3FoRC3OwO 25 дней назад

@@HUNK_TZ why would you not?

@Thunderstyle7 19 дней назад

@@StriK3FoRC3OwO It's not good.

@anthonysmith6413 27 дней назад

This would be so awesome if it had a x 1,5 mode. I think most people would prefer a image with less artifacts that just increases the fps so people can get their fluid 60 or 90 fps.

@wlwlwldldldl9638 26 дней назад

honestly 2x barely gives any artifacts

@kennetha6594 26 дней назад

If you actually try it, 3x barely produces any noticeable artifacts let alone 2x.

@anthonysmith6413 26 дней назад

Thanks for your answers guys. Maybe I'll try it then anyways. I generaly am a immersive player and therefore move rather slow/walk in games. So 2x then actually might be a non issue in my case. 👍

@kennetha6594 26 дней назад

@@anthonysmith6413 you won't regret it. It works like magic. I play msfs 2020 and normally have it locked to 30fps but now I get a constant 60fps without stutters or artifacting.

@alun1038 27 дней назад

Tried the older LSFG 1.1 in games that doesn’t have native upscaling or FG like Mafia Definitive Edition, it worked surprisingly well. I’m sure this new LSFG 2.1 would work better

@AdamTechTips27 27 дней назад

I always use this for rpcs3 and star citizen. upping from 30-40 to 60. I felt terrible latency at first. but when I buy 165hz monitor and still playing that 60fps lsfg for rpcs3 and SC. I don't felt the latency anymore. so if you have high refresh rate monitor but want to play struggling unoptimized games. It's a total reccomendation for me.

@ricardowilliams3765 27 дней назад

Afmf vs lossless scalling?

@ocerco93 27 дней назад

Lossless wins.

@ricardowilliams3765 27 дней назад

@@ocerco93 did you test this? Because the people who made yuzu emulator compared the 2 in their last progress report and they said afmf was much better.

@ishiddddd4783 27 дней назад

@@ricardowilliams3765 Yep, lossless by a mile, won't disable in motion, motion clarity is about the same, can be used on any app, and lsfg 2.0 fixed the problems the first lsfg 1.0 and 1.1 had.

@ricardowilliams3765 27 дней назад

@@ishiddddd4783 Nice!

@ricardowilliams3765 27 дней назад

@@ishiddddd4783 good to know, I remember hearing it was hot garbage at launch so I'm glad to see it's something worth using.

@YanniYankovych 27 дней назад

Wow! So it's like the framegen we already get with FSR3 & DLSS FG, but even worse :D

@lukesono5687 27 дней назад

Bro graduated from a McDonald's drive-through

@sengan2475 27 дней назад

Yes

@YanniYankovych 27 дней назад

@@lukesono5687 Nuh uh! Dropped out and then graduated from Wendy’s drive thru

@HunterTracks 27 дней назад

Yes, but available in every game and without AFMF's quirks.

@YanniYankovych 27 дней назад

@@HunterTracks The “quirk” of AFMF is that it disables itself when the difference between each rendered frame becomes so great that it can’t “guess” the interpolated frame with any accuracy. Which is sensible in my opinion, but at the same time still pretty pointless (as is this) because it doesn’t have access to the game’s motion vectors. It’s pretty much useful only for watching sports.