they should like be put in a room together with cameras and fight like a political debate. (edit)omg thanks for the likes(this wasn’t about politics btw) please stop trying to argue with me about them lol i was just saying they should argue with each other kinda like the kardashians
I feel like I'm watching a real life Mean Girls. Jeffree's about to just throw out the whole Burn Book and turn everything to chaos and we'll just watch the carnage unfold.
Idk, I feel like Tati’s video was the burn book moment, showing up everyone’s true colours and slightly victimising herself while doing so. Jeffree defo deserves to be hit by that bus though, which imho is gonna be a james or Tati based law suit for defamation of character or something lmao
lucieirl if you think Tati is the burn book, just wait for jeffree and his hundreds of receipts to be released when he comes to attention💀 it’s not gonna be god for anyone.
yall gotta stop giving her attention. she wants to apologize for her past yet she never apologized for many controversial and disgusting things shes done. i hope yall didn't forget about her never apologizing to the DID (multiple personality disorder) community. she comes at people and says whats wrong with them when it literally applies to her too LIKE- DO YOU KNO- OK. idk why everyone still stans her and loves her yet hates jeffree. shes literally fucking horrible LMFAOO
and James is just like ‘tralalalala spring is in the air and I am a flower, with nothing interesting to say.’ I can’t stand James but good on him for not being a dickhead.
20k Subscribers Without Videos Challenge he probably has all of these blackmail things bc he knows he’s a bad person and if he doesn’t have anything on anyone he would just be outed completely. If ygm. He needs something to keep control.
tbh as a fellow scorpio, jeffree is very much a scorpio and acts like it. We scorpio are the most full on friend and we will be there for you when you need us but we are the type that we listen and listen but stay shut and store everything but girl the second that person does something to us or to our loved one we release our poison and we don't give three fucks we don't regret so he's just being a regular scorpio and if people are going to throw shade at him or anyone he really cares he going out with the dirt because everyone thinks they are saints all of sudden
He’s been seen out taking pics with fans and driving in Hollywood. He is busy In his ARCHIVES fetching all them RECEIPTS!! Receipts THE HOUSE!!! In the coming few weeks!! Let the mouth do the moving and the popcorn the cracking!
@@altenorooi Can you please tell me what receipts everyone is talking about? I thought I was following the Dramageddon closely but I completely missed that part. We're talking about those paper receipts you get when you purchase things, right? Why are they so important? Am I just having a huge brain fart right now? Cause I really don't get it... XD
Maybe we need to move on from this yt drama shit and all these 30 yr olds gightin like little kids? Maybe we need to be addressing more important issues and lrave these pieces of trash BECAUSE they feed on the drama and attention?
The fact that James was able to FORGIVE Tati, when she started everything by uploading the video, speaks volumes of what type of person he is. He nearly killed himself and I could never do the same thing by accepting
- A that’s what I’ve been trying to say since the bye sister video came out and I get shut down so hard. I was flooded with hate comments in my comment so I deleted it. If I hadn’t deleted it, who knows what the comments would be like
- A no of doesn’t lol. Sebastion William, marcel, and many other drama channels have confirmed that what tati said was rue and that james Charles is a nice and forgiving person compared to jeffree who only talks negative things about everyone
@@Naomi-xu4hq he might be forgiving but still we don't know the whole story. You can forgive someone but it doesn't mean suddenly you accept them again and side with them. Which is what's happening
its like, he knows that we (and possibly the influencers who are against him) are going to feel intimidated. Maybe that's what he wants. Idk, I've been reading way too many Agatha Christy books LMAO
Trisha stopped being friends with Jeffree Nixon because he didn’t give her a Louis V bag. She’s shallow and petty I can not believe anyone supports this trash bag.
Here are my bets: either Jeffre is gonna pull the “mental health” card or the “ 10 years ago I was depressed and had 500 dollars in my bank account” lemme know what U guys think! Edit: WOW Omg tysm for all the likes lol and replies they r so fun to read! Edit again: or he might ya the excuse, there is a lot of dark things going on behind the scenes right now guys
i have noticed that alot of youtubers bring up mental health and their past and try to come up with excuses to gain sympathy from their subscribers. A lot of people struggle with their mental health so they want to seem ‘relatable’ in a way
He is a businessman after all so he’s going to have “friendships” that benefit his image. If those people become problematic, he’ll drop them (even though he himself is very problematic).
@@recolty I don't think someone that's willing to hack into someone's personal info would really care about that (this isn't in reference to anon bc they do good things)
i am not a big fan of trisha but you should NEVER EVER body shame ANYONE you don’t know what’s going on ALSO they were on vacation together trying to celebrate and it’s fucked up that he starts talking shit on her
olie171 she deserves to get punished for all the crap she has done but NO ONE should EVER body shame anyone it can really mess up with their mind and how they view themselves and others
Can yall stop reposting that same plagiarized comment, that was recommended literally 1,000 times in James Charles comment section, under his response to Tati and Jeffree Star last year. This comment is not original and you know it.
hellojewels Woahhh! Dude, I get that it’s not original, but is there really a problem with people liking it? You probably didn’t mean for it to come across the way it did, but it you sounded pretty pissed. But yeah, maybe this wasn’t the best video to post it on.
Jeffree Star is the common denominator in ALL OF THIS DRAMA. Notice how whenever he's involved old problematic things show up... Jeffree hasn't even spoken up about his "friend" Shane or all the things he's said in the past. Jeffree is the problem.
He’s a toxic friend like he was so close to Shane and now just ditches him as soon as he gets involved in drama he is a manipulative toxic person he basic manipulated Nate to think he was bi when he actually is straight
Literally, if he was canceled early into his career when he said slurs towards black people, sure there would be drama, but I think the beauty community would be more at peace. Whenever there's a BIG drama in the beauty community in some way or another Jeffree is involved and who knows in what others dramas he has been involved with behind the scenes.
No way Tati is as innocent as she’s trying to seem. Never in this world would two people convince me to make a video about MY FRIEND without confronting them first.
Exactly! She had the power to go to JAMES CHARLES and be like HI THEY ARE SAYING THIS.... She literally said , in Bye Sister, that she confronted James Charles with Gabriel Zamora being present and now its Opps I WaS BeInG MaNiPULaTeD.
100%. She may be as genuine as they come...but her cry fests look fake. She knew what she was doing. It would take a really stupid person to not know what that would do. She knows when she starts bawling people will feel bad and side w her. She bawled and looked sad but once again, as with everyone else, she showed not one bit of proof of anything she said. Nothing.
James should honestly sue Jeffree for defamation because of those tweets & his involvement in the whole thing. I think he could win, it definitely affected his career & public image.
I kind of feel like thats whats happening behind the scenes, because Tati did say she had proof but it lawyers had them. If Tati's getting lawyers involved I don't see how James isn't either.
There is still one allegation from a victim of James, Jeffree has a recording of the victim. We don’t know if it’s true but what I hate is that Jeffree is using it as blackmail which shows that he doesn’t care about the victim and their feelings. He makes me sick to my stomach
Nah, she was the one who posted the video. She's a grown women she can make her own decisions. The fact that she blames them and says that they "forced" her to post it IS FUCKING CRAZY TO ME. she's 40 and should know right fr wrong and the fact that right now when everyone is hating on jeffree and shane, she decides to post a video about this crap.. one year later? Nahh ain't about it sis.
he’s for sure talking to his lawyers to figure out what he can say and plotting releases of blackmail + probably talking to shane and maybe even tati and her lawyers in the background
Coming from Tati, Sebastian Williams, Anna Oop, Tea Spill and Jakeyonce all in the space of minutes. I cannot keep up omg. What Is going on in 2020, i'm getting whiplash
Wasn't Jaffar Suer the one who was forcing people to respond when they wouldn't respond in under a minute about something they were involved in ? Oh how the turn tables
Unfortunately there's no age limit on high school drama level behavior. I've known people in their 50s and 60s who are still into that behavior. It seems like while growing older is mandatory, growing up isn't.
I’m honestly SO tired of hearing about the entire Jeffree, Shane, beauty guru, WHOEVER drama... I feel like every video I’ve watched about them is the same just worded differently, but I’m literally so bored that I still watch them all.
Jaelyn Aaron you should look at the right opinion or itzkesha (?) the right opinion isn’t really beauty drama but they give a good analysis on topics. itskesha has an unique approach to things and it’s wonderful haha
Dude he got demonetized.... he gone.... it was his time to leave and this was truly the way I guess it was meant to go.... Everything has an end some have a more harsh one
Barbara B girl honestly I don’t think he is coming back. Not in the way he usually does. He prob is going to be in other vids with ryland. Morgan and garret problably are mad at him so let’s not expect any Shane from them.
@iit’2 2ollux bruh When she did all that DissoDID was s*icid*l. Its so fucked up and people still like Trisha? I'm done with her 100% but i felt like she made some good points.
iit’2 2ollux bruh Trisha faked having DID and spread a ton of misinformation on it. When dissociaDID called them out she went off on them in a series of videos which are probably still up. According DissociaDID they were already dealing with a ton of stress and all this drama lead to a ton of issues with their mental health. They left RU-vid a while ago and still hasn’t returned.
@@Aine4779 Oh puh-lease! She's the biggest manipulator I've ever seen! A total hypocrite! She bullied Nin from DissociaDID so bad up to a point where she developed a new alter for being extremely stressed out. She never apologized to Nin and many other people from different communities she has offended over the years. She should shut her botched mouth before lecturing others about what's right or wrong.
The problem isn’t us it’s his stupid fan base tbh like we can make videos exposing him as a horrible person that we all know he is but if we aren’t the people who follow and buy his stuff we can’t really do anything tbh
When no one’s watching I think its easier to focus on who we actually are and actually strive to be because there’s no one to convince were good/right to only our own heart to heart opinion of ourselves.
I was kinda spooked but then it was like, if I was in their position i would just release it myself and not let him win. He probably had people do dumb shit to then use it against them in case they ever turned to him. Everyone at this point is scared of things coming out and losing their careers but I mean, it's better to face it and have it out there than living under j* manipulating and hiding from their mistakes.
I think he'll stay silent. this is working out for him pretty well because Shane is taking most of the blame right now. if he spoke out he'd get more attention and it would be worse for him in my opinion but idk
I’m shocked that James even allowed Tati back in his life. Like I know he might not be innocent in the whole picture but I wouldn’t trust Tati after that. It was probably just a gossip group between Jeffree, Shane, and her tbh. All she’s proven is that she’s a bad friend. 😬
Agree completely. Tati is sanctimonious, bitter, two-faced and does not take accountability for her actions as a 40 yo adult. Basically a covert Karen.
Well it's his life and his choice. If he suffers from it then there's nothing anyone can do. He probably has his own reasons and plans to use Tati to get back at Shane and Jeffree for what they did.
She did say they "compared notes" so the fact that they made up and looked into all this together means that there is a lot more going on than any of us know about.
i totally agree with trisha, ( never thought i’d say that) Tati is a grown woman i’m who can make her own choices, BUT manipulation is a pretty powerful thing especially if it’s from someone who you trust.
Plot twist I think Jeffrey manipulated all of them. Jeffrey only cares about Jeffrey. And I like Trish and I have been listening to her the last few videos that she's me and she's actually been making some freaking really good points like and even owning up to her b******* and apologizing for it
why do I feel like Jeremiah Smell bad, isn’t going to release the receipts himself. He is going to dissseminate this info via people he can manipulate and make it as hard as possible to trace back to him. -BE PREPARED
Then why is the title BYE SISTER if she didn’t want to cut ties? She knew he would go down that’s why she posted the video FOR US to cancel him. If a video was what was going to get through to him, she should’ve made it and SENT IT TO HIM
I definitely think she was wrong doing it, she should have never filmed the video and she said so herself. However she's been constantly told that he's too full of himself to listen to anyone and hyped up to make the video, they made her think it's the only way to get his attention. I genuinely don't think she thought it would get this big and didn't realize that he wasn't even as far gone as they claimed. Shane also probably suggested the title based of what she said
Yeah, why wouldnt she just say, shes not friends with jeffree star. In the future she'll probably say "I said I wasnt a huge fan of him anymore, but doesnt mean I stopped being friends"
I do agree with Tati on the point. If someone has changed, and something from their past comes out, we really need to not cancel everyone and bully them. If they have not changed, then simply don't support them. That is better because there is no more attention on the person everyone wants to "cancel".
Yes! Someone actually watched her video! She was mostly emphasizing that people should be openminded and not immediately cancel everyone. My theory behind her saying this is because it was revealed a while ago by someone that JS used the N-word around people trying to get them to say it (which didn’t work since it came out that he has used that word). People have come out saying he tried to manipulate people around him into doing things they normally wouldn’t do just so he could get dirt on them. I’m not sure how much of this theory I believe is true, BUT if there’s a chance it is true then he should be held accountable for being a shitty person who is a mass manipulator. We can’t just act like he’s innocent or uninvolved in the reason why he has so much dirt on everyone.
This isn’t drama anymore nor was this about vitamins it was about someone having a predatory behavior but James Charles was falsely accused of being a predator honestly he should sue jeffree and Shane not only that Jeffree apparently has evidence that James Charles is predator he has been withholding this evidence which is illegal honestly this is now getting disturbing and disgusting.
Jeffree Star has a lot of nerve talking about someone’s looks when he looks like a spaghetti arms Skeletor (it’s not okay to talk about someone’s looks but when they bring looks into it they are fair game).
i think he’s deeply so insecure honestly. that’s what insecure people do. bring other people down...that’s also why he was so down to ruin james’s career.
Bye sister was 38 mins of tati plugging her vitamins and playing the victim. She stayed QUIET until people started coming for shane and Jeffery then she jumped on that opportunity to play victim also. Not buying it. BYE TATI
I think it’s definitely possible to be manipulated by a friend. I had a friend that was really toxic would make others look bad when really they were the toxic one. Jeffree Star has such a bad soul and heart. He has been the same Jeffree Star since the MySpace days.
Jesus Peppler it really is. Everyone likes to think they wouldn’t be manipulated, their too smart for that, which makes you vulnerable to, take a guess? That’s right?! Vulnerability!
@@jesuspeppler4929 It doesn't matter what age you are you can still be manipulated. Especially if you've never had someone manipulate you in you past. I don't know why people use this as a reason to claim that tati is lying because ANYONE regardless of age can be manipulated. It's even more effective if it's someone who your close to and thought you can trust.
Manipulation is not just for teenagers. Adults are capable of being manipulated, especially from somebody who they trust/consider a friend. We even know that in abuse relationships, the abuser manipulated the victim to get what they want. So it’s tragic that people don’t believe that an adult can be manipulated.
Ikr But how does he never get cancelled ??? Like how does he have such a strong army of fans. It feels like he has always been the "king" of beauty community but i never understood why
Meanwhile, Voldemort is sitting unbothered in his mansion surrounded by his pomeranians and Hermes Birkins, watching this circus to burn itself out OR he's planning a massive move to nuke them once and for all...😵
Judging by Shane’s reaction to tati’s video on live, I’m gonna assume jeffree’s ghosting him 💀 he obviously doesn’t know what to do, and neither does Jeffree. The empire is falling and all the fools are scattering 🥴
@@mercenarymaiden You don't? His channel is demonitized, Target doesn't sell his book any more, Morphe took down his collection... if he hasn't invested the money he made he's done for lol
mercenarymaiden he’s not going to lose money he just won’t gain any for a while. If social media/hollywood/etc. wants to shadow someone away they can do it in a snap of fingers
I’d act the same if someone was falsely attacking my character - I’m the nicest person, and when people try to lie about how I am it upsets me because it’s all I have going for me haha
Girl cmon. She could have texted him, called him, went to his house. She was mad he ate those damn gummy bears 😂 she’s a grown ass woman, she knew what she was doing. At the end of the day, she posted it. She focused on apologizing to James for like 10 seconds in her video. Super convenient she posts this vid a whole year later, while shits already hitting the fan w Shane.
I don’t care how mad at my friend I was, I wouldn’t go out them to the world. She knew what she was doing or what it could do and she did it anyway. Now she’s trying to backpeddle. And still...as with alllllll the others...she’s shown not one bit of proof to back any of it up.
How r they acting like adults?? They r coming on here making videos saying I know this and I know that but not doing anything to show that’s the truth. They’re just talking and trying to cover their own tails. No one has shown anything. No one. It’s all this is what so and so is doing and it’s gonna come out. It’s always “it’s gonna come out” yet...no proof ever comes out. They are not acting like adults. They’re acting like teenagers gossiping and trying to get this person on their side. An adult doesn’t participate in drama. That’s what adults do. They don’t participate in backbiting drama while there are actual terrible things going on in the world right this second and make videos about the drama but not about real large issues. They are acting like anything but adults.
Majestic Kaneki if someone is going to PUBLICLY disrespect you they should Publicly apologise too. She should’ve made a vid to apologise!! The same energy she had to call him out, the same energy she should’ve publicly apologised regardless of what we were going to think.
I think when Tati says we should forgive whatever comes out, that it was more of a reference to Jeffree will do whatever it takes to purposely get the target off his back. So that we all focus on them instead of Jeffree which is exactly what a manipulator and narcissist would do.
Lizziee Duran Jeffery has “dirt on everyone” (his words). He might use that dirt to expose others and get the public off his back. So when Tati said be ready to forgive it would seem that she’s saying be ready to forgive the people that Jeffery might expose.
No I think Tati meant that we should actually forgive them because she has sympathy for the people Jeffree was controlling with his receipts. And that logic is pretty off for me. If the receipts were that bad where you would literally follow everything Jeffree says, then I’m not going to just forgive them if they’re that bad. I don’t think she was making a “reference.” I think that she actually wants us to forgive the people that Jeffree has receipts on just because she feels bad for them.
Cora Cohen No I think she said that because she knows that Jeffree would only be exposing those people in order to distract people from the real problem. I don’t think anything he has is any worse than what he and Shane have done
@Alina Rehman manipulation can happen to ANYONE at ANY AGE if u didn't know. And as a victim of sexual abuse herself she felt strongly towards what they said what James was doing (like she should!)
@@madisonvallino3755 remember she did say that she tried to address this personally to no avail (allegedly) in the bye sister vid. I honestly have no idea what was happening behind the scenes, if there was way more manipulation going on behind the scenes. It's also important to keep an open mind, so we won't have another dramaggedon scenario where people took sides immediately. (Sorry that last bit isnt addressed to you directly, just my thoughts)
Ellie Val I agree with rich lux (the ONLY time I aggreed with him) Tati was heating this stuff about James from Shane and jeffree whispering in her ear and she was like “whatever” but when James promoted the other vitamins that’s when she was like “oh he’ll no”
Jasmine Nate couldn’t have left at a better time. Dodged a bullet for sure. If he spilled some inside info that would get him so much recognition, but he’s a chill, normal guy that doesn’t care about this bullshit, so yeah, too bad.
Same here. 😥 That being said, I don't think that WE should feel guilty for being played, by top-notch actors, who only revealed, to viewers, what they wanted us to see. Is it disheartening, violating, and vomit-inducing? Sure. Yet, we aren't the ones joking about pedophilia or throwing our friends away, like confetti. If any of you are like me, you know that possessing a great deal of empathy can be both a blessing and a curse...
Went on Instagram immediately but he still has yet to respond to the Smith family and their tweets calling him out for something where there are actual receipts
Iris Didn’t he leave Twitter *before* the Smith situation? He probably has yet to respond because he has yet to see it. There’s that possibility, plus he could have apologized privately, or is thinking of the right thing to say that will offend as little people as possible, etc.. Reality is, we don’t know what really happens behind closed doors
And please. We’re not gonna act like she couldn’t go to his family, especially his mother. She could have went to him one on one. Making that messy ass video was not her only option. She’s just trying to save face. She got gassed up, dropped that video and now she’s playing clean up crew.
This! We should convince him to speak out and create a go fund me or something to support him for whatever J* would try to sue him for. Jeffree needs to be stopped immediately. This is crazy!
‘Jeffree Star’ is an alter ego that he created to hide how deeply insecure he is. Using makeup as a physical mask to help keep up his mental mask (common defence mechanism). He always needs to be the best, ruin competition and achieves this through blackmail. The fact that he spoke so badly about Trisha behind her back speaks volumes.
nah, tati is almost 40 and james tried to reach out multiple times to talk to her. she had no receipts for the bye sister and she has no receipts for this one. the only person not acting like a child is james. i feel so bad for him
@@neeren777 yeah , at the very least she is riding in the team she originally was, JS clearly will throw anybody under the bus in order to save himself. All these influencers need to chill, they are 30+ and a whole mess.
Makes me wonder if when Shane was talking up Tati in his statement, and how she “went off and beat to the Gods” was just kissing her ass because he knew this was coming.
I think at the very least he thought that if he gave her a lot of compliments, she'd go "Oh he still cares about me" and choose not to expose him and Jeffree.
Trying to subliminally convince her that her decision to make that video was powerful and awesome, rather than a bad decision that have affected her trustworthiness
Right?!? Why does everyone assume Tati is saying 100% the truth. None of them are innocent I don’t trust a word anyone says. People take sides so quick.
The common denominator was Tati though. She was the only one able to feed information from either side and she chose not to go back to James but to make a video about him because he threatened her business 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
True, but sometimes it's nice to relax over some drama that isn't as serious as BLM...after a mental health break it's easier to focus on the real important stuff :)! Justice now!
Same. She may be legit but her crying always reminds me of the girl in high school that always wanted sympathy for attention and was good at fake crying to get it.
Kyla Lambalot i completely agree but i just like watching spill sesh in general, and it’s completely wrong for people (like james) getting falsely accused for being a pr***** and getting canceled :)