Jan.17 -- Tristan Harris, former Google design ethicist, discusses changing Silicon Valley's culture and the fight against online extremism with Bloomberg's Emily Chang on "Bloomberg Technology."
The entire point of Silicon Valley is that they were so tied up in "asking how, they forgot to ask why". Engineers are attracted to the valley because they get that freedom. I'm not saying, I like this but guys like the one in this vid fail in Silicon Valley.
I have seen the marked deterioration in the quality of thought, attention span, and energy of my college students from 2008-2018. I call the folk who cannot look away from their smartphones for more than a few seconds it seems, screenzombies, and Tokyo is simply crawling with them.
You wont change anyone by ignoring and condemning the issue. That is boomerly thinking. Unlearn what you have learned. Find better and more attracrive alternatives for those you seem to have no understanding. You are them and they are you.
How has this video not gone viral? Everything he is saying is so true, Im relieved that just one of those "50 engineers" came to their senses and is actually doing something to have these companies reconsider their business models. Im a 21 year-old who was born into these types of technologies and all I can say is the fear of missing out plays a big role in this especially for students. Thanks for speaking up Tristan!
I certainly hope he has changed his attitude regarding "free press" because it isn't. "Free" as in "freedom of speach" is being extinguished, and all this technology is taking the lead at this.
It's sort of parallel to the planetary embrace of a system that must grow to live [capitalism]. As long as we are stuck on a single planet, we Can't have unlimited growth forever.
Tristan...I have listened to you since the Social Dilemma and love your passion, your intelligence and focus on a dream of not only utopia, but also a better world as well. I am probably not your typical Facebook user in that I only use it for art and tutorials. In that way I find it very helpful and useful. I use u tube for the same reasons and love the unlimited resources out there. I'm not on any other sites so I'm not sure I understand what you mean by undermining democracy...which you bring up a lot in your podcasts and speeches. Because I choose to not be on the screen much, and when I am I go for the art work....how does that hurt democracy? The larger question is do you mean politically...such as the disconnect between Republicans and democrats? Thank you.
My review of the NetFlix movie: "The Social Dilemma" featuring magician Tristan Harris. While the movie contains many truths, concerns, and some crucial observations, careful attention needs to be paid to its implicit agenda as observable in the trajectory from scary to optimistic music. The two core messages of the movie are that (A) people do not yet know how to police their own usage of social media and this is problematic for their psychology (TRUE), and (B) that therefore social media content needs to be regulated to stop the breakdown of society through excessive diversity of opinion which will cause the end of democracy (FALSE). In fact (B), apart from its self-contradictory aspect, also has nothing to do with (A) and is thus a telling non-sequitur or manipulative juxtaposition. (B) derives in part from an "anti-populist" political agenda (translatable as "anti-democratic") which states, without any evidence, that the rise of anti-globalist democratically elected governments around the world is somehow the rise of tyranny and the death of democracy. The dangers of populism, and the stock-phrases about Pizzagate, are referenced by Harris as the movie reaches its climax of tension (involving fictional rioting populists...) after which a young protagonist is rescued from his delusions and from the deranged mob by his loving family, the happy optimistic music begins, and we are introduced to the idea of the regulation of internet content for social stability and harmony through a one-sided technocratic truncation of free speech and a public totalitarian ethic - as already witnessed increasingly in Twitter, Facebook and RU-vid. It's a clever psyop, as Google's Harris, an expert on persuasion, and the "closest thing to a Silicon Valley conscience", uses the PlayBook to recommend real fascism as a solution to fictional fascism, by posing as the one who is doing all this to humanely rescue us from the amoral grasp of Big Tech's market-driven AI algorithms which are driving us mad for profit with Russian bots. Interposed in this fundamentally mendacious climactic segment, Harris before Congress expresses his horror at this Pandora's Box scenario, otherwise known as the internet democratization of the media, as if it is the collapse of civilization rather than on average educational and empowering. In a flurry of (possibly) un-selfaware Orwellianisms, he calls it "the end of truth" and hopes to "reverse our downgrading" by "ethically steering" us away from the storm of AI-facilitated viral media content from the Russians. The movie here lays bare its contention that traditional media content is somehow reliable (rather than being filled with CIA propaganda about, for example, Russia collusion), and that alternative media, shared in a distributed fashion on the internet by citizen journalists with no vested interests, is extremist fake news, when in fact the reverse is probably true. I will be a citizen journalist right now and tell you that every hour taxpayers in the United States are paying $32,077,626 for the total cost of wars since 2001, but neither CNN or Fox will ever tell you that, any more than they told us that arch-globalist George H.W. Bush bombed thousands of retreating and surrendering Iraqi troops into their desert graves after the Gulf War ceasefire, or that the CIA runs planes full of heroin out of Afghanistan. Therefore the movie is disingenuous, and in the end it is more manipulative and dishonest than the situation about which it scaremongers. At its core, it is dressed-up schlock and propaganda for its obvious agenda: the policing of the Internet. The clients of this agenda: the usual suspects.. So a summary of the plot is as follows (1) We know everything about you (2) We can control you without you even knowing it (3) So you’d better give us humane control of your information feed or we will surely destroy your children by inhumanely allowing them vote against us. It's "Problem Reaction Solution". In crying wolf on technology's "checkmate on humanity" (ie: populism), the movie attempts to anti-populistically execute that exact move. The issues about addiction are separate issues thrown in to confound debate. Watching these (double? triple?) binds unfold on the screen is the closest thing yet to being in an episode of “The Prisoner”, an excellent show, if you have not watched it. The movie is well done, and does cover some topics other than the urgent need to control humans the way we want to before it's too late because now we can. Jaron Lanier is the most compelling commentator and sincerely delivers some spooky lines. Intellectually it is much more interesting when it almost touches on the novelty of the interaction between free-will-driven human beings and the deterministic processes of AI, rather than when it is wringing its hands about the elite class's 10,000 year old "Social Dilemma" of how to control our information for our own good. We all know already why you think our information has to be controlled thank you.
That's an interesting analysis. I take it you've seen THE GREAT HACK, THE CREEPY LINE and read Shoshanna Zuboff's book THE AGE OF SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM ? I also recommend CHILDHOOD 2.0 and Peter Pomerantsev's book THIS IS NOT PROPAGANDA - ADVENTURES IN THE WAR AGAINST REALITY. I'll go you one further.....it's like being trapped in a GROUNDHOG DAY episode of THE PRISONER directed by Vladislav Surkov. I've studied propaganda for about 20 years - starting out with a detailed deconstruction of the first Gulf War, so I know precisely what you're talking about re: Bush 1 - but to me this is an entirely new form of social control that's operating at a far deeper, more insidious emotional and cognitive level than anything before in history. Edward Bernays must be turning in his grave, having died before he got a chance to play with it. And what THE CREEPY LINE highlights so disturbingly is how big tech is now fusing with government to revolutionise and control the traditional military-industrial complex. This has profoundly bad connotations. I wish I could see some change and advantage to the 'populists', but all I've seen so far is policy continuity, and frankly a lot of idiocy. Trump has actually expanded Obama's drone war, the USA and UK are still the two biggest arms dealers in the world and snuggle up to the Saudis exactly the same way their forebears did. Both have handled Covid abominably, whilst Bolsonaro in Brazil isn't content with his Covid death toll level so has decided to burn the forests down as well and murder most of the remaining indigenous people there. The only real difference I see is that the 'populists' deny it and/or lie about it with almost every breath, whilst the 'globalists' tried to keep it a secret.
@@wakewood5793 Thanks Wake Wood. RU-vid has blocked me from posting new comments. They did so within a few hours of me posting here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4eqdko1mDIs.html . Goodness, I wonder why? But I can still reply in old threads it seems... I don't see how you can equate Trump's foreign policy with the Bush/Obama neocons. Sure Trump plays the idiot, but: (1) troops going out of Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria, (2) North Korea, Iran subdued, (3) coup in Saudi (4) NATO war drive with Russia derailed (5) ungodly globalist alliance of EU, DNC, UN, MSM, big tech and China finally challenged. I struggle to see this as continuity of policy. He is the most anti-war President anyone can remember and did what he said he would, unlike Obama. Whether or not you agree with him, it looks like a revolution, hence the media-whore exploding-head hysteria. Thanks for the references on the plague (of propaganda). I will look them up.
Zach Wolfe These corporations are evil empires. Google is under investigation for Anti Trust violations they have been accused of treason over what they have done in China with the communist party and you just say nobody is forcing blah, blah I think you should listen very carefully to what he is saying because you my friend have already been programmed.
