I have the Triton saw and found a great improvement when I fitted a trend blade. I think this would apply to most of the cheaper track saws. I have cut some MFC board with great results, much less break out on the underside of the cut. The 1500 mm triton track is a must have for me, joining tracks is always a compromise in my opinion, and its 100 mm longer than the usual 1400.
I'm now officially addicted to this channel. R&R are the Stan and Ollie, Bud and Lou, etc. of RU-vid trades mavens. Knowledgeable but also endlessly entertaining. Bravo! How about relocating to South Carolina? I'm sure we can rustle up some projects for you.
Watching this guys videos are a priceless guide to people in the trade I am glad I’ve watched this one especially it’s made mind up that triton is not a good brand at all thanks guys 👍
Hi guys. I totally agree with the review, I purchased one of these as I was on a bit of a budget, the first one lasted about two weeks before the motor packed up, I’ve now got a replacement from Triton. However I wish I would have bought a used festool for not much more money. Classic case of “buy cheap buy twice” !!
Cheers lads good video. I have a Lidil Parkside with a Freud 48t blade and it cuts lovely, but I m sure it wouldn't stand up to the tradesmans abuse. For the £80 plus £26 for a decent blade, its well paid for itself on some of the jobs I've done around the house with it.
Love your honesty and the reviews and please wear ear protection and love these track saw reviews as an amateur woodworker I have bought an Aldi Tracksaw which is a Scheppach and the rails are not flat well it did only cost £79.99 with 2 700mm rails which is cheap so you get what you pay for keep up the the reviews. Actual tradesmen using the tools and giving their opinions and views is priceless!
Merry Xmas lads thank you for all the videos tips tricks and all around good entertainment all the way from Australia, Perth we use the Makita sp6000j chuffed with it .
Hi Gardy I love it that we can talk to people around the world and they say Perth is the best that Australia has. Glad to hear from you and Merry Christmas to you.
Most ppl determine "best" by most expensive. But when you actually know what you're doing and what the tool's made to do, I'm in full agreement with you.
Aimed at the DIY market and nothing wrong with at I guess, a fair review but it was never going to compete with the likes of Mafell or Festool. Higher end tools will always perform better and are often more accurate and durable in my experience and if you're working to a price you won't want to be faffing around trying to get you're tools to do the job they're designed to do because inevitably it's going to cost you money. Happy Christmas guys
Hi, I have a "Park" track saw that I bought from Lidle (in the UK, I am not sure where you are but you sound British) I only paid £40:00 for it and I am very happy with it. I get no brake out or vibration and use it most weeks
Is there any value in a hobbyist or even keen DIYer buying a plunge saw? It’s a serious question as I can't make anything big enough to require one so I don’t know. If I was physically capable I can’t help but think a circular saw with a home made track would be better value for the maybe twice a year you’d most likely need it. Obviously for a professional it’s a totally different story.
The saw is a up cutter they should of cut the worktop upside down I have used this saw for over a year and never had a bad cut. The Festool is good I have friends that use them but found this saw when used correctly to be just as good worth a look if your saw ever goes down. The Festool track fits this saw perfectly and the only thing my workmate did was unscrew the anti kickback devise that was a pain.
If this is the same machine as the Erbauer, assuming parts are available for the Triton, wouldn't that solve the parts issue for the Erbauer (though an internet search does suggest there are some parts available for some Erbauer machines...). i.e. folks could by Triton parts, for use with the Erbauer?
Excellent review as always! I first saw this reviewed on Jim's Man Cave. I had no idea it was the same as the Screwfix own brand. Anyway, my first impression was the same as Roger's. At just shy of £200, why not go the extra mile and get the excellent Makita. Of course, given the poor performance of the Triton, you could also go the other way and opt for a Parkside model. I've seen one right down at £29 on offer. Now at that price I'd definitely be willing to agree with 'what do you expect for the money?' Of course, the Parkside works well with the Makita track, so maybe that's not a fair comparison. Still, a tracksaw at under 30 quid, or 70 at full price.
I've got the cheapest track saw on the market. The own brand one from Rutlands. It cost me £70 pounds. I'm pretty sure the tracks are the exact same tracks as all the budget models and the saw is probably similar to other saws out there. I've had great success with mine. It's smooth along the tracks, cuts a really nice edge on white furniture board and dust extraction is about 90% with my bosch site vac. Unless you're buying a premium branded machine I don't think there is much point in going for anything more than the cheapest you can get your hands on. this review shows the mid range in quite a bad light but if you'd only paid 100 or less for it you'd probably say it was a good buy.
Great videos, but you should always cut worktops, upside down even with festool of Mafell for the best results. Cutouts sinks/hobs it doesn’t matter, it’s covered by the lips. But love all your videos,
Hi Chris Thanks for your comment and agree if you are lopping off a bit of worktop best done from the back but these videos are a test of the saw and the breakout. The worktop off-cuts are perfect for that job. When it comes to sink and hob cutouts I use the tracksaw and masking tape. If I need to cut an end that is on show I use a router. Robin takes a different approach. He calls in a guy who does nothing but worktops. He cuts them and does the mitres or radius cuts while Robin goes off and does something more profitable.
They are fine. If you don't need the plunge then you could be O.K but you can run a circular saw along a spirit level. The track prevents breakout which you can also do by working from the back unless it is a door. I just like the convenience of a tool that is made for the job.
Your videos are great guys!! I hang alot of oak veneer doors, some pre finished, looking at getting a track saw, £500 budget..... which one would you buy????
I have used a few of these plunge saws. I think the dewalt has an anti kick back feature too. You don’t need it until you try plunge cutting into solid oak work top for a sink or hob cut out. The Makita doesn’t have one and you have to really control it when doing your initial plunge otherwise the whole saw can jump off the track and kick back. Apart from being dangerous, it could be a costly mistake too. Oak worktops are not cheap.
Good advice but it usually happens on sheet materials that aren't supported well and it happens on anything when you move the saw backwards and it climbs out of the cut. They are not for the inexperienced.
I dont think you could ever compare a top end one to £100/£200 saw.. I'm definitely getting one in the new year but it's mostly plywood and 18mm MDF that I will be working with so thinking of going something mid-range in between... happy Christmas lads keep the posts coming in 2019
Whats the story with 185 version of this, triton has it on their website, seems like they are same size, erbauer only comes with 185 mm blade and they all look same size. Does that mean if I have 165mm one of these I can stick 185mm blade in it for 50mm bewel cuts? thanks.
Since watching this when it first came out, I've seen a lot if videos by people who use this a lot for pro woodwork and very serious hobbyists. Works great for them. Probably not up to site or shop carpentry. I have good reason to steer well clear of Erbauer so, despite Triton being good for other stuff over many years, this range filler is not for me
You might find AVE youtube channel interesting, he pulls all these tools apart and is pretty expert in the way he does it, very funny too, he pulls the Festool apart! Thanks for the videos and merry Christmas!
I checked the price of this tracksaw (with 2x700 mm rails) on Amazon and eBay (UK), and the price is only about 100 GBP less than a Makita SP6000. One would be mad to buy this tracksaw for the money they ask for it.
glad i went with festool, even though it costs an arm and a leg, that and the domino are worth the cash, the other stuff is overpriced when there are cheaper alternatives from makita, de walt, etc
Dave That is the idea of them but in this particular case there was breakout and I think it was due to some kind of wobble on the spindle. I don't know but every other saw we tried had minimal breakout. Some of it must be the track as well. It would have been good to put that saw on a better track but it might have spoiled the rubber.
@@SkillBuilder I understand the plunge side and have tried plunging my normal circular saws into work on loads of occasions normally on rough work so these are great, but still believe you should have the blade spinning the correct way through the piece of work the same as you would with a router, the blade needs to go into the laminate/ best side first to stop breakouts no matter what tool you use, its only a reasonable cut because the blades you are using are new give it 10 jobs or so and you'd have to cut upside down as the sharp edge will get worse
Also you didn't have the track clamped in the end cuts you where scrutinising so vibrations where sure to happen aswell??? I don't have a plunge saw and track yet so perhaps im talking rubbish. Can you get away without clamping even on finish work and not just a rip off? I would always follow a clamped guide on a finish edge.
Dave On the vast majority of occasions we use the track without clamping it and with a good track it sticks well. As for cutting from the back that is what we all did when there were no track saws but if you have a worktop in situ and want to cut out for a sink or hob then these saws are the way to do it. All the other saws gave minimal breakout and the flange of the sink or hob covers it. Also if you use the scribe setting it eliminates breakout. I would use the clamps if scribing because the second cut needs to be in the groove. As the blade wears it does need a quick tickle with a diamond but it is usually not a problem.
It's good practice and any work with a circular saw should be from the back, our method for the episodes was to look at the quality of the cut edge and by using worktop we could check the power at full depth and the breakout on the face, Great comment mate
Bought one before I watched this... Ive not been happy. I simply cannot make a full depth (after scoring) pass on 3/4" subfloor plywood without one of two things being required without it shutting down (presumably overload protection).... 1. Slow my feed speed down so far that I burnish the wood under cut. Or... 2. Push it at what should be a normal rate of feed and have the saw shut down over and over. A full depth plunge into 1.5" thick material is not possible without burnishing or repeated shutdown. Ive sent it in fir warranty and they claim nothing is wrong with it. I shall see when it returns what it's status is
Watch these boys all the time reviewing stuff and they are good so no disrespect to them but they used the saw wrong it’s a up cutter if they cut the worktop upside down they would of got a clean cut. I use this saw all the time and can not fault it.
I've used the triton for home use and on site, all types of board and it does what you need from it. the triton blades are c'heap and good quality. its a cheaper makita in effect the gear boxes seem to be noisier. I'm not so prissy about brand names as many brands make truly awful tools. the rails are a bit thinner than the makita rails and the non slip tape isnt as good as the festool stuff. I am as happy using it as the Makita or the festools I use on site and I've geven it 5 years of abuse.
1st. This is Stakker Humanoid the Patron Saint of all Trades People (kitchen fitters/sparks/tilers/spreads/painters and decoraters etc...etc...). The Triton TTS.... You know it makes sense !
Stakker According to convention you have to be dead at least 5 years before you become a saint. How long have you been departed? and what is the vat situation?
@@SkillBuilder Good questions comrade! Due to being a working class hero and with all the uncertainty surrounding BREXIT an exception was made in this case 😊. The VAT situation is that you still have to pay it !!
It’s a up cutter cut the worktop upside down and you will get a clean cut pfft come on boys your letting the side down. Yes I have used this machine loads of time . Cut it upside down and you will get a clean cut simples.
We all know that you cut with the face side down but how does that demonstrate the minimal breakout on the face? These track saws have been designed for face cutting so the tests here is all about their suitability for the task. Are they fit for purpose? I am really sorry that you missed the whole point.
Flaskandsarnies . When I was a kid I saw those Xray specs advertised in the back of the newspaper. It is the big regret in my life that I didn't save up my pocket money and buy some. Then I would be able to look straight through the worktop and see that the saw wasn't going to cut the tressles instead of having to lean forward and look.
I bought a chepach from screwfix on offer and was the worst offer ever. Me and my guys were sca to use the saw. Vibration and noise the motor was making bwas like is going to explode any time. Ended up in the skip 2 weeks later.
You mention that this was looks identical to the Erbauer but having seen your review for that saw and checked the specs online I'm pretty sure there is at least one major difference - that being the Triton is a 165mms saw with 54mm depth of cut and the Erbauer is 185mm with 67mm depth of cut. I presume the cut capacity could be quite a significant feature to the potential purchaser so I just thought that ought to be clarified as it's a bit misleading to the viewer when you stated that the machines are identical.
MAVideoFunnies Triton has this same saw as 185mm kit on their website and they all look the same size but I can not confirm that just by looking at pictures. It would be nice if we could just mount 185mm blade into 165 tool for those 50mm bewel cuts.
Sounds as rough as a badger’s arse. If it’s as good as the Erbauer then it’s utter junk. IMO if you are going cheap then head to Aldi (Schepach made) or Lidl because they work just as well at even less money. Or get a decent circular saw with a track adapter.
Hi Kev I know what you mean about getting what you pay for but the things that weren't right could be put right without pushing the price through the roof. Triton is building a good brand with woodworking tools but this doesn't help their cause.
I cut worktops everyday and that saw looks like a bag of shit🤣😂😂I use a big Makita circular saw worktop face side down measure the required size set the fence up to the mark and cut it in one cut no problem.
Have to say I felt quite disappointed with this review your normally excellent but with this being a discount saw I'd of liked to of seen how it did with a score cut first or even with 2 passes...I would already assume it would struggle in 1 pass also would of liked to of seen how it dealt with ply
@@philipjones9297 Sorry Philip but we looked at it and it is not quite the same as the other cheap ones and is under powered so we had to draw the line. It costs time and money to make these reviews so we need to be a little selective. Scheppach spec 1010W Max. Cut Depth: 55mm 24-Tooth TCT Blade Single-Speed No Brake Close to Wall Cut: 16mm Dust Extraction Port: 38mm 2 x 700mm Rails 2 Year Manufacturer's Guarantee (T&Cs Apply) Cast Alloy Guard
Skill Builder thanks for the reply, I bought the scheppache a few years ago as I’m a keen D I Yer and at the time was very pleased with it but after becoming addicted to RU-vid I decided to treat myself to a festool TS55 . Absolutely no comparison. Love your channel by the way 👍👍👍
