@@nockianlifter661 ok well that's a fair point but I'd still be happy if they offered a fairing kit you could buy as an add on. And yes the trident with fairings will be a great bike around town. It's just when I think Daytona, I think raw performance razor sharp weapon. This isn't it. Market it as a trident R or something. It's kinda a slap in the face to those of us who miss the Daytona and didn't want to see it taken off the showroom floor.
As the owner of a Street Triple Moto2 and a '17 Street Triple RS, there's a reason for that. The Moto2 is epic on track days but honesty on the road, the older bike with flat bars is more fun. There's a reason no ones buying sports bikes.
Why ? They are almost the same price new... If you can afford a 9,320$ motorcycle, you can afford a 9,995$ motorcycle.....when you add on freight/tax/registration/prep it's like 6% more for a much better speed triple
I think of this bike as a Trident RR I guess. The daytona was so sharp and had very premium componants for a 600cc class bike. I disagree with the name, but its clearly not a bad bike for what it is.
Do you know what the original Daytona was? The new model here is closer to the original than the super sport model was… even models until the early 2000’s like the 955i were a more laid back, plush version compared to other liter bikes… if anything the super sports you talk of are further from a Daytona…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Yeah, I get what you’re saying and fair point. But, if you said Triumph Daytona to a fellow motorcycle enthusiast they’d likely be thinking of the 2009-2016 models because they were… genuinely special, and a very focused sports bike.
Hands down. The best review of this bike so far. Absolutely fu£#ing epic Al. The sound. The imagery. You guys absolutely smashed the competition to bits. And you managed to use the auto caption button. Which MCN hasn't worked out yet😂🤣
I am glad you addressed the handling, as I was confused by the "journos" that trashed it, as Triumph knows how to build bikes that handle well, and I would have been surprised if they had actually released a bike that handled as badly as they said.
As always Al, your reviews are direct and clear to the point. I loved your point highlighting the fact that the brakes are ‘good’ regardless of the affixation over what others would regard as inferior if it did not have the branding badge - enjoy your reviews which is why I few years back I went out and bought a 765 RS on the back of your expert knowledge - just dont tell Chris I said that - he’ll get well jel! 😊
I don't understand the confusion over this bike. It's the same format as the CBR600F if I understand it correctly, not as aggressive as a supersport and more aggressive than a naked. More a sport touring setup I'd love one
I wasn't really looking for this to be as track-focused as the old daytona- but I was hoping they didn't dial it back too much that it would be bad on track. All your input plus the news of a race kit gives me tons of assurance- and I'd probably try and build one. Awesome review as always, Al!
@tomburrows19 the cbr600rr and and zx6rr are available to anyone that wants to step up to a supersport.. I like that people have a lot more options now. Supersports are not practical for the road most of the time. Especially with the potholes around now
Reference quick shifter , I’ve got the tiger sport 660 and I didn’t bother getting one , been riding 52 years and it’s got the lightest clutch action I’ve ever come across , plus seat height for smaller riders , had mine lowered by 2 1/2 cms with a lowering kit it’s now perfect , didn’t get a lower seat because not needed. Looks nice popping over to my dealer’s tomorrow to have a look . Love that deep red , my favourite colour 😊👍👍
Evening Al….I don’t have a bike at present, but….this is at the top of my list, for dipping my toe back in the water….fast enough, comfortable enough, cheap enough, and it’s British…well Triumph…👍😂👌🇮🇲
Looks fantastic value for the money tbh! My brother has the trident and that motor is lovely so this must be amazing , put some decent tyres on it job done ❤
Adjustable suspension is really only needed for dialing in on the track. The a commuter bike it’s not that big a deal. My current bike has adjustable suspension and it works fine. But I’m fairly average size, 6 feet tall and 190 lbs…
@@nockianlifter661 for commuting through traffic you don’t need adjustable suspension. If you’re looking to do track days or ride the canyons then you might want adjustments. But for the commuter it’s unnecessary…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 If you’re outside of the standard setup then it makes the bike safer and more comfortable. Even commuting. Take my old Monster 1100s without any free sag in the rear, it was throwing me out of the seat over even the mildest bumps at low speeds. Having the ability to dial in some sag made it much easier to ride.
Thanks old mate for being straight up. It is what it is. In this day and age it sounds like a great machine. Good commuter and got the herds when u want to give it soon. Keep doing what u r doing. 👌
The Daytona has always been a roadbiased sports bike. It moved away from that with the 675, but that's the exception and not the rule. Your reference to the Daytona 600 is the best way to compare. It's a great looking bike. I'd consider one if I were in the market for this sector.
Not really! Daytona 955 had a lot more power, better, fully adjustible suspension, better styling with mono rear, this "Daytona" can't be compared to early ones.
@@motomehanicar459I didn’t write they had the same power, I wrote the character of the bikes is the same. IE the trident being a naked less powerful version of the Daytona 660, just as the speed triple 955i was naked and less powerful version of the Daytona 955i. The tiger 660 now acting as the sprint 955i. All of which were street oriented, lumpy power plants, 660 to 955i. It couldn’t be more obvious to anyone with a bare knowledge of triumphs street fighter lineup. Objectively, they look similar as well.
@@motomehanicar459 you just wanted to tell someone they were wrong so you overlooked what I had actually written. Everyone else seemed to understand just fine.
@@cowmath77 Not really, everyone woud understand same as I did (that's why you have only 13 likes), but your desire to be understood and accepted is greater than any reasonable explanation. It is worthless to argue here coz' you have some issuses man.
Same wheels as the 660, which I have broken 2 times front and rear in potholes, Thailand. Beware on UK roads of potholes. I can supply link of video evidence on the rim breakages. Other than that, I would buy one
Will be interesting to know the stats of sales figures for the new honda CBR600RR and CBR650R end of the year. If the CBR650R is sold much more, then unfortunately makes sense for the traditional superstore category to die out and this style taking over.
No CBR600RR is not just for road use rather Supersport track and race too. CBR650R is son of CBR600F the do it all bike, so different uses, all perfectly valid.
Having ridden both (not current model year) its utterly baffling to me that people could walk into a dealership and pick a 650R over a 600RR, the 600RR is just vastly superior. If you want naked ergos, buy a naked, if you want a sportsbike, buy a sportsbike. Trying to merge both styles together is just making a compromised bike.
@@Fuzzerino Each to their own preference. Honda must have the data to show that 650R is a winner for enough customers to make it worth building. It was the only 6X0 choice available from 2017 when 600RR was discontinued. 600F was on sale for decades before that so a market is there...
The talk of a lack of a blipper makes me feel old. I am not young, that's for sure, im middle-aged, but im sonset in my ways that my last two bikes had blippers and I almost never used them. Muscle memory is a bitch sometimes. Id much rather a blipper on my dirt bike. Bouncing over ruts and roots while grabbing the clutch isn't very fun. I honestly wouldn't mind a bike like this with premium suspension. Im old enough to not care too much about power as long as its fun (90 to 120hp is fine) but im still living the glory days on track. My perfect bike would be a fully faired street triple RS with the pegs half inch higher amd half in back, the bars half in forward. I'm an oddly shaped smurf (30in inseam, 5ft 4in and 200lbs in a cow suit wil long arms) Someday id love to be able to get by with only 2 bikes but its just not possible. I need a track bike, a sport touring bike, a dualsport (larger for distance like a 690) and a 2 stroke because everyone needs a 2 stroke.
I think this looks brilliant. I currently have a Street Triple and am thinking of adding this to the garage to compliment it. I really don't want a 765 Daytona, as except for a few track days each year, where would I be able to use its performance? This is a bike I could actually ride hard on the street without a constant threat to my license.
Let's not kid ourselves here - 95hp is still seriously quick. I've owned a naked 91hp bike and I was still riding around over 100mph all the time. With a few more ponies, that slippy little fairing taking away some of the sensation of speed, and the more committed ergos, I think this is still a very nice little licence loser.😅 I know you can get lighter bikes with 200hp, but let's keep things in perspective - my licence would be barely any safer on this.😇
Great video as always. It is attractive to my eye, and I get why they made it. I bet my wife would love this one, I am not some sort of pro mind you, remotely but I bet she would see this and just fall in love. It looks good, performs well, simple stuff not to be distracted by (electronics/screen). I'm new to the Triumph brand, I just left the KTM ranch absolutely love the fit and finish of these bikes, and honestly I had never been inside a Triumph dealership. I have a 2023 1200 GT Pro a 2024 street triple RS and a 2023 Husky 701 Enduro. I am just in love with the noises the triple makes, I hope Triumph gets more serious with the offroading stuff I'd love something other than my 701, nothing wrong with it mind you, just want to see some competition.
i bought one, went from a gsxs750 and expected it to be a downgrade in power and i was fine with that because you can't use all that power on most roads unless they are straight anyway, i was actually very surprised at power delivery when i first rode it, iv owned a street triple and they would leave a gsxs750 for dead handling wise (i missed that), it handles better than the street triple i had aswell. power delivery and handling combined i think you would find it a very quick bike for the road and good everyday bike.
I didn't quite believe you that the bike was easy to flick, but if you watch the lead bike @ 11:26 when he leans from right to left, I think the only time I've ever seen a bike transition that quick is MotoGP or when they're about to highside XD
Hi Al, how can the handling be vague due to the tires… they use the new Michelin Power 6 tires which everybody says are just super…? It is just a surprise they build down to a budget and then use these premium tires… or do you disagree? Do you hate Michelin tires?
I'm really not into these small bikes but imo, complaints about things like suspension comes from experienced riders: • new riders won't be pushing it like some of these journos have • new riders won't know the difference anyway I started on a CBR 600 F4 and thought it was absolutely fine. Until I bought something newer and could then understand the differences. Maybe you should do a group test with these types of bikes and get a couple of new riders to give their thoughts. Chuck in a cap and a t-shirt lol
Great fun ride. Sure the engine is best in its class and suspension does not need to be adjustable. However others say the suspension damping is poor and the bike dives under heavy breaking and squats under heavy acceleration, impacting the line. The 8R and R7 appear to be way better handling. The dash is not in the market at all and electronics just there. So a good bike but not really Daytona handling so not a great bike?
@MadChalet Very true. I have a 2020 RS that I absolutely love. I'm curious if, in the future, the Daytona's get big discounts making them more desirable.
Cant wait to see all the comments from the ones who think it needs more power, bigger engine etc. Its usually the ones who wouldnt even be able to use the full potential of this bike on the road.
It’s more setup as a sports tourer realistically but the manufacturers know that most young people think sports bike sounds cooler etc. I’m glad they had another option it’s just a shame the black one looks cheap but isn’t so ugly at least
Would you swap a 2016 GSXR 750 for one of these? I dont know...what about the street tripple RS 765 . Would i crave my gixxer if i sold it and bought one of these
Feels like the bike industry as far as sport bikes are concerned is either a nutty 1000cc that needs a tuning shop to unlock its potential fully, or a sub 100bhp twin. The 2 600’s that are made won’t last long because they won’t sell and again, because of euro 5 they’ll be shite in standard form.
I have a trident 660, honestly you don't need a quick shifter. You can power shift with no problem. I think it would almost spoil the bike if you didn't learn how nice the clutch is.
Isle of Man group test! Some good bikes in this class now. Not sure I’m ready to trade my fireblade for one yet but I know it’s the sensible thing to do. Great video as always, sorry to hear about your foreskin.
Also fuck the quick shifters man, get us cruise control. This class of bike crush miles, the first thing that hurts is your right wrist/hand after a few hours