TRIUMPH SPEED 400: The REAL REASON behind Shumi's/MotorInc's HATE | FACT CHECK 

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I salute you... You raised a really important issue for the auto enthusiasts... I am following shumi since years on both powerdrift and motoinc and even on Instagram, still i can relate to you completely, hats off 🙌

The problem with Deno sir is he praises almost every bike. Listening to his review on avenger 220 I bought one. Now I I understand he mentioned no negative in this bike. So influencer youtubers are not reliable. More over you may be right because I respect you, but almost in all cases I found Shumi is right. I have noticed that one should have handsome stock of word, good knowledge in English, sense of humour and lot of patience to understand his reviews.

Was disheartened by Shumi’s comments, lowered my expectations, took a test ride and came home unimpressed (how on earth can I get impressed by a 1Km test ride during peak hour on a traffic choked road in Bengaluru ?).. Still the prospect of owning a cute little Triumph at an accessible price surpassed my not-so-impressive test ride experience, so went ahead and made the payment. Got the delivery last week and did a 150 Km highway ride and quite a few ‘chore rides’ in the city.. My one sentence verdict is “It has beaten by expectations !” Smooth engine, Adequate power, tractability, linear power delivery, agility etc.. have made me fall in love with the bike ! Every time I look at it, there’s an urge to hop on and get going ! (Yes it’s not a 100% perfect machine. For eg.,I find its gearshifts a little harder than my anticipation) This is coming from someone who has been riding a Kawasaki Vulcan S for the last 5 years..

When I watched that video I was shocked as well that what's wrong with Shumi being so petty about Triumph Speed 400. Well now we all know. Great job exposing them and bringing the truth all out 👏

Wow. Shiraj, IF THIS IS TRUE, I had raised the same question to Schumi and had a verbal quarrel on the same. Now, I got the reason why were they giving nonsense reason and praising harley for nonsense fake "character" while all others were prominently stressing on Triumph's quality.

Makes sense. They were talking so positively about X440 but when it came to speed 400, it felt negative. I, for one, was super hyped about the speed+scram 400 and was dreaming for the 400x to be by first bike. But hyped washed out and self-doubted a bit after listening to their negative remarks. Still the hopes are high and there's a Triumph's showroom nearby, waiting for 400x to come to showroom to test ride both the bikes. Thanks for the heads-up👍

Thanks for bringing this up. I have always believed that self experience is important. And after riding for approx 500kms, it definitely feels like a retro, smooth bike which i was expecting in the first place.

Hoping to see a Duke 390 vs Triumph Speed 400 from you. Even though they are from completely different price brackets, I'm intrigued about engine similarities, vibrations and everything.

It's the same with CB350 as well. I've noticed that people who ride several dozen different bikes per year don't like it very much at all. But for a practical single bike ownership experience CB350 and Speed 400 represent a respectable leap forward in quality and value for money in this segment

That was enlightening Mr. Shiraz, thanks for keeping it real, as always Shumi's hate for the CB350 is that it is not Honda enough, ridiculous tbh. I even commented on one of their videos that this opinionated nonsense is childish, if they portray themselves as unbiased, they should walk the talk as well!

Felt it sometime back. Thanks for the information on how the review cycle works. ❤ Huge support for you bro. Thanks for being there. 😊

I've unsubscribed from and blocked Motorinc. I couldn't take their biased, myopic views any more. Those two have completely lost it now. I respect your views, I respect Sagar, Dino, maybe Jehan as well. Not many more.

I absolutely agree with you sir . When i first saw the review about the triumph speed 400 on various channels , i was stunned with their experience they had with the speed 400, but when i saw motorincs review about the speed , i was very much disappointed, as they continuously criticized the bikes character . With so many people giving such positive reviews about the bike , those two have clearly just spoke absolute crap about such a wonderful bike . HATS OF TO TRIUMPH FOR MAKING SUCH A BIKE IN SUCH A COMPETITIVE PRICE!

Finally this is addressed 🔥

What most people might not realise is that you are able to call him out because your expertise in auto is a thousand times more than him. Kudos!. Even I found their Speed 400 review "put together very strangely"

Blocked Shumi for being a CLASSIC Clown. Great video and thank you for clearing things up. I knew something felt off about Motorinc (Moronic) videos. New Subscriber.

Perfect bro, even I look forward to their videos due to their quality and opinions about the motoring scenario as a whole in India, and even more hyped to see them ride and review the speed 400. But result was very bad. I really felt that he was thrashing the brand and the bike comparing it to other bikes and say it was not like this that was not like this while almost all 99% of reviewers said very amazing things about the bike..... Now after seeing this video now that completes all. Now it connects, why he was thrashing the speed 400. Salute for speaking this up bro. All the support

Bro I have been following you for years, Your reviews are great but try to avoid getting into controversies as it does not fit well. Rather make your reviews so good that people compare the reviewers than the reviewers reviewing each other.

Very good video!.. Much appreciated Shiraz!.. I bashed him on his stupid rant in the name of review.. I bought the Speed 400 after seeing their rants 😂.. Im so so happy with the Triumph ❤

While watching that video I was like wtf happened to this guy, I commented my concern and the reply was just more bs by their team and at that time I wasn't even being biased against shumi for his hate as I had not even bought the speed 400

Thank you for shedding light on this. (Greetings from the Netherlands)

Shumi is like Arnab of auto journalist, he has a command over English which he uses to impress bufoons who think anyone who speaks proper English knows better. Nice of you to cover this. Anyone who questions his technical knowledge gets blocked

‘Lacks Character’ were his words and I was really surprised to hear that when many other reviewers were praising.. and I also genuinely thought that Schumi knows better with all his technical knowledge and he must be comparing it with KTM Duke 390 or that sorts and hence such judgement. But seems now reality is something else! Anyway, I did go ahead with my purchase and very much happy with it.

with all due respect, I'm not expecting any verbally abusive words in this comments reply is there is to be any(i checked few of your replies hence requesting) if you cleared out to points of'not so triumphy/not slow revving enough to be retro/not fast enough to be roadster etc etc then why did you miss the part where they praised the quality/the fit and finish the suspension, the whole characteristics of the bike being calm and gentle compared to other 400ccs or the expected improvement of service after collaborating with Bajaj, why did you miss these points? busy enough to point out the bad things said by them and not equalising the good part they mentioned?? if they are biased as per your opinion i didn't find your perspective to be any different as well, no need to teach my about your background and others, I've also been following you via media for the last few years and also following shumi and karthikeya and i own the speed as well so no comments on that as well, if there review isn't balanced/non biased, it isn't yours as well, it's like your adjusting your personal grudge rather than their biasness over the s400 review, and cmon don't do all of these things mentioning automobile India/whatever not expecting and bad replies/ immature abusive answers , Peace ✌️

I find this video very eye opening. Shumi often act very extra over confidence. Like he knows everything. Sometimes i laugh that they are advising team of engineers and designers like nuts.

Controversy is what was needed the most in our motovloging/reviewing circle. I hope more people like you come out and start exposing these fake reviewers even if you look at Powerdrift they lost their charm.

Bulu Biker took triumph speed 400 for a long ride in his recent vlog. It was genuine and helpful

This was a much needed topic. After test riding the Speed 400 I couldn't genuinely fathom why such a reputed journo as Schumi would bash it and say the HD440X is better. I even had an argument with a "blind follower" friend of mine who takes Schumi as the Gospel. You'll find many such chaps hereon trying to ridicule you for exposing their crusader just because he speaks fancy English but please don't bog down and keep making such videos. Kudos to your effort, subscribed 😃

I actually got confused after watching his video, he didn't give a straight answer or opinion about anything at all. He tries so hard to be sophisticated.

Please keep a script and follow it. This could have been a 3 minute video!

There were many classic bikes that revved higher than the speed 400, not every retro bike should behave like a two wheeled tractor from 1950. And triumph is actually going for a bike that looks and behaves like 1990s classic road bike.

Thanks for providing the info of launch and review behind the scenes with such details. Love how you speak just facts and not playing the blame game ❤

shots fired.. well I always thought batman has his nuts married to royal bluntfield... the way he shit on yezdi and jawa bikes was really very telling. letting egos get ahead and not doing the job with integrity.. shame .. insert got cercey meme

Damn dude , thanks for opening my eyes 😅🙌. I really used to think that Batman and Robin are honest reviewers but nope they aren't. Infact even i used to think why they don't have any videos of them riding the bike and giving the review POV style which Sarge(sagar sheldekar) has done so many times , but now i get it 😂. They really hate some bikes for eg Bajaj Dominar 400 - he just hates on it saying it has too many vibes and all but i personally think that it is a naked sports cruiser only meant for people who want to go touring , heavy for city use and it should have been the real calm alternative to Duke 390 which speed 400 is now. CB350- Shumi hates on it and says its not like what Honda is supposed to be ,Truth is most people just hate on CB350 because its got tall gear ratios for touring but the plus point to tall gear ratios and producing more torque than power is that even a beginner won't stall the bike so often as he does on a short geared commuter bike. So its good we only need to know when to shift and when not to shift . Its all about getting used to the bike and how it should be ridden.I say it from a personal experience of riding a Himalayan 411 after learning to ride on a Bajaj Boxer 100cc 😅. Speed 400- Shumi hates on it because of the obvious reason which you mentioned and the fact that he's someone who rides a 1st gen 390 duke even today . He says its like a Gixxer 250 which is not even too fast or too slow." Welll people actually wanted a calmer alternative to Duke 390 which Dominar 400 failed to be in all these years." When i told him this in comments section, he agreed to my point because i had also told him that not everyone wants a madhouse freaking bike ready to race , some people just want a bike that is calmer than Duke and faster than D400. But if i knew the truth about him i would have blasted him on his bullshit for sure. Anyway I have seen these Auto journalists who like to ride big fast bikes and own something like Duke 390 or Aprilia Tuono (shumi owns it) they just dont respect other bikes and their performance if its not exciting them. And boy o boy if they are salty with a brand they just trash them really hard and indulge in these dishonest philosophical reviews 😅. The 1st time i encountered a dishonest youtuber was Dino's vault - he just used to get to ride bikes from dealerships or maybe manufacturers started providing him with bikes later on . But i remember he always used to get the bike review before everyone else among youtubers 😂and he always used to talk good things only about the bike , like flattering and buttering up was the prime objective. Hence I unsubscribed his channel many years back but i guess he changed his sryle later on or maybe not. What do you think about Sarge and Bulu biker ? Are they as honest as they seem to be ? Because I believe they are among honest few reviewer/RU-vidrs/Auto journalists we have today. BTW I am unsubscribing Batman and Robin now at this very instant because I used to think they are not as biased as Powerdrift but turns out they are even worse .

I think what revs too quickly for a genuine retro means that, it has power not grunt and retro bikes are famous for grunt like gt650 it doesn't rev too quick. Let me know your thoughts!!

Thanks for this bro♥️ i have watched your speed 400 review & made my mind to purchase it. Then took test ride & found the bike exactly as you reviewed 😃 then I bought speed 400🙏🏼

Thank you for this video. This was needed. Shumi and Singhee are completely useless when it comes to reviews. They are clueless and they make absurd comparisons and statements. I remember one from the review, they said it didn't have the character. I don't understand what character they were looking for. No matter what these two say, people will buy what they want.

Very well said. Thanks for exposing such idiots. Either of them haven’t shown any clip of them riding, or being at the launch event, best part is Shumi himself he says ‘Rishabh brought the bike from the venue and he rode it and returned to the facility to drop and Singhee rode it in and around office building for 1-2 kms’ seriously? You just ride for 2 kms and start reviewing? Shame on Shumi and Singhee 😡

I think he was talking about the throttle not working smoothly. I rode it and the throttle is nothing, nothing and then completely on. I prefer a smooth throttle. The rest of the bike was nice but if the 400x is the same I wouldn't purchase.

😂😂😂😂 amazing bhai. Loved the caveman wala context

Now waiting for a longterm review of speed 400 shiraj bhai style 🎉

Reminds me of that time when shumi roasted, not criticized, literally roasted TVS Ronin in his review video and in his shorts videos, even people in the comment section of those videos were pointing out and can see the literal hate for Ronin or maybe for TVS. I have seen other reviewers who reviewed the bike but they gave genuine criticism which TVS can take to improve the bike in future updates, I also own a Ronin and it's a really nice bike and live up to its hastag unscripted, still I'll say that they can improve the bike a little bit more in future or can bring a new model of Ronin just like TVS did with rr310 by launching RTR 310, I was blown away seeing this much BS criticism, hatred whatever you want to say done by shumi on Ronin. You have took a really great step Shiraz sir, talking about or raising voice against these types of reviews, reviewers and such, because these things needs to be addressed quickly or it'll ruin the motovlogging, auto journalism and even automobile industry. Reviews done like by reviewers like shumi can hamper the reputation of a really nice product and even the company who made the product and can also mislead customers who may miss the chance to have a really nice product in their hands. Customer need genuine unbiased reviews, not biased reviews driven by emotions, personal beliefs, money etc

I literally dropped the idea of buying the Triumph Speed 400 when I watched that pathetic episode... But I kept thinking why that chomu is expecting the performance of a 1000cc sports bike from a 400cc engine. Thank you for this expose and I will now go for this bike!

We need people like u cause we can get the right review about the bike. So how is the Triumph speed 400 as a bike. Have u made your review about the bike would like to know

Bhaisab Pol khol ho gya yaha toh... salute h sir apko keep rocking !! I am subscribing you from my other account as well.

What is your take from the ride of speed 400? is it good to buy? I felt heating issue near the fuel tank when I took test ride. There is no video which clarifies heating issue as of today. Plz advice.

So happy for this video.(oversmart sumi so much attitude) Commented this on harley speed 400 comparison vdo. Paid by hero. Seen this earlier too when he said classic 350 is better than highness. Its miles ahead.

I saw Motorinc’s review and was taken aback by what they had to say about the Speed 400 (had already booked it in July) as compared to what others said, I had a question to ask “ whether it made sense upgrading to the Speed 400 from my Thunderbird 500 “ I did not bring it up but went and took 2 back to back test rides for myself…came back with a big smile and the answer to my question 😊

Did you hire the train? Excellent timing!😂😂

Spec sheet guy complaining about reviewers. Interesting🙃

I follow both of you guys. Both of you are good in your own ways. You focus on details, and I love it ❤️. But it seems like you are just playing the blame game to become famous. Motorinc has the guts to spit out the facts and is famous because of their quality content ❤️. No hate, but instead of blaming someone or any other companies, produce some quality content and educate people on what criteria they need to consider while buying a motorcycle.

Very upset with batman and robin. Have been following them for a very long time. I have 25 years of riding experience but after watching batman's speed 400 review I questioned myself bcoz I found speed 400 to be the most amazing and value for money bike in its category, with absolutely no major cons.

A very straightforward and perfectly articulated message. I was really excited about the Speed 400 but their review really spoiled my mood. Been riding for sometime but never owned a bike. Want to get this one as my first. What do you think? Will it be a good choice?? Thank you 🙏

Finally somebody’s talking. Back of my mind it always used to trigger that some disconnect is there in Batman & Robin reviews. Appreciate your open & honest views. Thanks Shiraz 👍🙏

Dude you sound so pleasant in English, please consider doing reviews in English too. Would love to hear more.

The same thing was done by vroom with kiran and sachin they kept on pushing and forwarding videos against triunphs service

Same happened with CB350. I mean come on, it does have long gearing character but that doesn't mean it's not rideable at all...

Someone finally pointed these guys. I have also seen Powerdrift comparing JAWA and RE. Every negative point of RE is the character(hahaha) whereas JAWA negatives are highlighted way beyond. These guys are biased for RE for sure..

Man! Your name is Real Auto Reviews and you are actually proving it true, we love this! But one thing for the future is that when you grow big then please keep this genuineness alive like you do in your every video. We actually like to hear non biased and actual reviews. Keep it up!

This is quite interesting. But, they are right when they say that we should do our own test rides and come to our own conclusions. I found myself agreeing or disagreeing with different reviews after my own test rides. I thought the Yezdi Scrambler would be a decent bike but it turned out to be utter crap. The Yezdi Adventure turned out to be underwhelming. The gen 2 KTM 390 Duke turned out to be unexciting but only after buying one. I thought the Super Meteor 650 would have bad handling but it turned out to be excellent. No matter how many reviews you watch, nothing beats a first-hand experience. That's why all reviews should be treated as they are - third party views.

Please bring a absolutely detailed long term review of speed400. Genuine request to you. Cover everything like service.. cluster malfunction. Really waiting for it

Mate this video is good but please organize the context tidy. It's like you have to say so much and info it getting scattered. It's like kya batau or kya nhi.. May be make it point and precise 😊

*Thank you for this gem of an insight. Now we know* 🍻

What he was talking about was character of the bike . A retro bike need to have a laid back and slow reving engine to make it feel like it's retro. Imagine classic having a high reving engine, would it have a laid back and old school vibe when you ride it . That's what a bike's character is .

Shumi is not a neutral reviewer. He has a lot of personal biases, which as a reviewer he should avoid during reviews, but he does not. He has deep knowledge in motorcycling, but he mostly reviews for himself. The infamous powerdrift Classic 350 vs Dominar 400 fiasco is an example why you should'nt trust media's and influencers. If anything, Sagar Sheldekar is the only genuine and neutral reviewer and the only guy who appreciates the machines for what they are.

Is it a similar case with Honda CB 350 Highness.?? Everyone who owns it & other journalist only have praises for the bike. Except Shumi who downrights rejects it & looks pissed of even it's existence.

This needs to be shared as much as possible. You had the balls to say it - well, 'Real Men' generally have. Chumti (Ch***ya hi naam hai ye 'Shumi') is slipping on all the wetness he's leaking by the views he gets from 12 year olds.

When I watch Speed 400 review on Shumi Channel that time itself I realised this guy is completely lying, he is just showing his anger on Bike, First of all after looking at Harley and speed 400 there is no comparison speed is way more powerful, Superior motorcycle in term of build quality

Hi there. Love your content. Can you please suggest if the gs310 is still worth buying in today's scenario. And what are the other better alternatives.

Who the hell is Shumi? Some demi god? He also ran down the bike I later bought, the Meteor 350. Called it a neither here nor there bike....the bike is a hit abroad and sells 6-7K units a month in India too.

“If someone says it’s raining & another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out of the fking window and find out which is true.” Motorcycle journalists are supposed to adhere to it as well.. sadly forgotten.. as for the other video.. it felt like 2 aunties at a kitty party with their claws out.. all claws no balls 😂😂😂😂😂

The choice of words could be better. You have your opinion, so does Shumi. Let go of these clickbait titles and make genuine review and let the viewers choose for themselves..Biker community is more interested in bike review than you lashing out purely out of your personal agenda..

I don't know who's lying neither do I care, but have to say only one thing "as a potential buyer go for a test ride, review it yourself and if you feel a connection the moment you sit on the motorcycle and test ride THAT IS YOUR BIKE, it will have some flaws but you make a choice if you want to live with it or not" You can't be asking everyone's review if you are looking for an alliance, if it clicks it stays and say foff to the world That's howbi booked the speed400 test rode 3 bikes back to back from different manufacturers but only the speed400 clicked, I am prepared to accept its faults and look on the bright side

It's because of people like you, we keep getting substandard products from manufacturers

Why do u want to correct him or feeling bad of his opinions....he runs a channel ..people who like him watch him...people who dont like him dont see.....

Honest and without filters, Shiraz bhai..lots of love from Karnataka

Bravo! Bro I have always seen these guys praising RE and I doubt they are well paid. For instance, I don't see them comparing Avenger 220 with RE, that's retro, much better ride quality and much better in many ways. In comparisons I see statements such as 'Vibrations' gives character on RE, but for other bikes it is bad, 'Slow' for RE is 'laid back eaasy ride' for others it is too slow. I mean do a good comparison, Personally I never felt the media Hype on RE to be true.... I am not RE hater, I love their classic looks and appeal, however I don't just go by Hype of the sound it makes, that we get in 'Diesel' rikshaw as well and Diesel pumps much better noise.

Should have edited the video, it would have shortened the video and the message would have been conveyed much better. A lot of the message gets lost in fillers. But then the question arises, why was he not so critical in his Scrambler 400 review? Am I missing something?

He said nothing wrong in the tiger sport 660 review... The talks usually happen when a few auto guys meet. If someone doesn't want to hear their comment then don't hang around them... Triumph has always been cocky about their bike. I can go on and on this.. The motorcycle in question is speed 400 is over hyped, oems don't like anyone who shows the real picture..

Finally my brother has a great and stronger come back with a much needed conversation which I have believe most interesting thing ever ❤❤❤❤

Shumi sahab k Followers : Review G. Maray ! English badhiya bolta hai 😂😂😂

I have seen almost all reviews at least twice, including Motorinc's reviews. As you rightly pointed, a reviewer must talk about the bike and not what he wants it to be. I got the delivery a couple of weeks ago. The bike is the best in class, be it on heavy traffic (you can literally flick it like a Pulsar 150) or on a highway cruising effortlessly at 90kmph (not revving hard because of break-in requirements). Overall all my friends who own and ride the 650 twins, 500 standard, Jawas, and Yezdis were impressed with the bike's performance and handling. I waited for 2 years for a well-built and reasonably good looking bike at this price point. I have also ridden all these bikes and think this is the best bike available in the market and it probably will be for a few more years. Please ignore real-world reviews by the new experts who try to gain popularity with this new bike. CB 350 made a madman famous and he completely flipped once RE threw money at him.

"It did not speak to us" got me cracking up lmaooo

So now can I say same for you because you did not praised Harley x440 …Harley x440 is doing better than triumph in sales cause it is better bigger more premium and has character..

Nice video. Thanks for calling out these parasites 👍

You just confirmed my doubts about Motorinc’s speed 400 review. Thanks for providing the inside view…

Bang on brother.....mast vdo...dusted and buried😂

I’m glad somebody is talking about this. You just warned a subscriber. Keen to know more about your views.

whatever Batman says Robin has to follow Questioning reviewers is very important...

I still don't understand why they say cb350/cb350rs is not honda. What!?. Can someone explain why they say that, what is their thought process

Shirazbhai, thanks from providing the behind the scenes from these media events. I was wondering about the reason for the discrepancy between some reviews like yours, Sergeant Sagars compared to MotorInc etc. Personal events that happen in peoples' individual lives do seem to have a lasting impact in other spheres of life as well. A safety consious customer might just go ahead and purchase an objectively unsafe Maruti Suzuki because of how well the customer treatment is at NEXA outlets, and vice versa. As an automotive journalists, y'all need to constantly purge these biases before drafting and publishing your reviews. Seems like some are more successful than others in doing so. Moreover Shirazbhai, really interested to hear your thoughts regarding the recently launched Bullet 350, the predecessor of which has been slyly featured in this video. Have seen your review of the Classic 350, eager to see if your technical prowess in this subject can spot any interesting differences between these two, really really similar machines.

Is this example of nevereet your heros in real life ?

Was waiting for someone to call this out. His views/opinions on Triumph 400 are biased. I was thinking his association with Harley-Hero for marketing was the real reason and not personal grudge against Triumph.

The bias was clear with them and PD.. Same as the bias they had for Royal Enfield and how they all bashed Yezdi bikes when they arrived.. Reasoning was 'feeling is Better on Royal Enfield' many people commented on such videos. I don't know why PD has been biased as well.

I don’t think he slandered the bike itself. He rather praised it but mentioned that 1. it gets vibes in the higher RPMs. Triumph said that the vibes are acceptable to the European standards in case of single cylinders but since we Indians are largely coming from smooth running single cylinder bikes, our expectations are better and if somebody can learn to deal with that, it will be absolutely fine. 2. He also mentions that it is friendlier to the newer riders but it will fail to keep an enthusiast entertained for more than 2-3 years, bikes like Duke 390 maybe better suited for that. I think Shumi uses a typical sarcastic attitude to articulate his thoughts that’s why something is lost in the translation.

Good video but too much blah blah blah. Write concise script and avoid unnecessary repetitions .

you earned new subscriber from Tamilnadu .... thanks for this knowledge shared.. respect for you

Whatever his reasons were. Shumi was right about the most things he said about the Speed 400 i feel. The bike lacks character and low end of a classic and feels strained at higher rpms so it wont be fun to push it too. so its just a tourer and city bike which it does very well. Id still buy it cuz i just want that

Can you link the moto noobs inc video in the description box, im not able to find it on your channel