TRUCKS are Better than TRAINS in Satisfactory Update 6?!! 

BLUEPRINTS coming out SOON btw! Keep up with the shenanigans here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1j5v0p_E6ac.html

You beat the game, but now you have to make it more efficient, but to do that you need to build another thing, and make that more efficient…

It would be hilarious if you flew in the plutonium fuel rods to use as truck fuel before sinking the excess.

About the truck phasing: A little while ago the devs made it so that a truck following a route will just phase back onto the route if it runs into an obstruction

I cannot begin to imagine what Kibitz will come up with when the blueprints are out.

If it ends right here right now than o7 i don't know how many episodes do we have left but i am glad that we could share this time together kibitz we all love you o7

storage capacity of trucks are i guess similar to that of an industrial storage containers. The transfer rates and capacity of the trucks are insane and beats the trains so easily!!

I wonder if having extra limestone brought from all around was actually easier to set up than using wet concrete recipe for 2x yield?

I have a save where I used trucks for everything. The problem I have with them is that they vary in their output. Both from small changes in their route every run and once you start to have more vehicles use the same path. Although that last one is also true for trains, but at least trains can carry much more including liquid and gas.

Coffee stain should add a new electrical trucks, which will work like accumulators and will recharge every time they are getting to the station.

Another thing: I would love to see Coffee Stain add a copy/duplicate path function both for the nodes and full path. And also make nodes movable and changeable. Would make "road" management so much easier and less time consuming as for example: with your four truck station highway, you record the path 1 time then just duplicate the path for the other 3 stations, then move the end nodes into the correct loading zones. It's really irritating when I get slightly stuck on a hill and it makes a pause node or the truck glitches while driving over foundations (which I hope was fixed) and now the nodes are out of line. Both are easy enough to just delete but if nodes get messed up over a turn then the trucks really suffer, as deleting the middle node causes them to go straight for the next, which can make it worse... ps: path duplication would probably be best if duplicated nodes were placed slightly to the side of original to make selection easier (movement/deletion)... 🥔

11:41 WET CONCRETE! lol. Don't build all those constructors for basic concrete... XD

What a journey it has been. Every video was amazing. Thank you.

My solution for exactly that steep hill above crater lake was to use Explorers instead of trucks. You have to use 2 Explorers for the throughput of one truck, but they are way faster so the result is more like 1,5 trucks of throughput.

Hey kibitz! love the satisfactory videos. Can you show us how you do your spread sheets to organise and calculate everything? I think it would be interesting and super usefull!

Using trucks like this has a very "Red Mars" vibe. Love it.

This is why I love the wet concrete recipe cuz you produce way more concrete per machine at a better limestone to concrete ratio. Really speeds up the concrete aspect needed for EI beams and HMOD frames alt.

Trucks will simply phase to the next node on the route if they're stuck, this was part of the update that makes them 100% reliable if you leave them be. So that means you can record a route, park the truck at the station, box the trucks at the station, delete all nodes on the route except at the stations, then have a truck that just phases linearly between stations. 10/10 would cheese again.

It's the 48 stacks and fact you can double them up, but remember you're still bound by the 2x780 items per minute on throughput because your truck stations still only have 2 lines in or out.

Past Kibs is such a hero. I wish I had one.

In 1 video i witness "thanks past kibs" "screw past kibs" "help future kibs" "torture future kibs"

14:38 "Let's Rock and S- roll" to the bone!

Love every and anything u upload! Kibitz smart builder.

I would watch you build these worlds for hours

Oh my god, all your stuff looks amazing!

Give your editor a pat on the back for that looney tunes ending. Also, fantastic foreshadowing on the truck thing. I'm sure it's fine.

The “you gotta have a permit for that bud” part got me, mainly since im Canadian and all i could think about was the “Bud”

This is absolutely awesome

I suppose my only grip about trucks is what fuel to use, cause as much as I love turbo fuel having to send some off for all the truck stations, probably using a truck might lead to a lot of confusion and wasting time

The ultimate goal of factory Sim gamers: not having to play the game... Also I've figured out trucks can path anywhere as long as you can get the truck there while recording. If the hill is too steep, make a method to get to the top while recording (even if it's a mountain) then complete the recording loop and delete all the arrows between the start of the climb and the end. Even if the truck can't get up there with a driver the new autopilot "phasing" technology will zoot it to the next arrow it's trying to get to at full truck speed. Feel kinda weird about it tho since it's useful but unrealistic comparing how they worked trains.. .

Man I've always liked how trucks looked. I so wanna try vehicles and bounce pads now.

Just wanted to stop by and say thanks for your awesome music playlists. I listen to it while working and playing satisfactory! I have listened to a lot of lofi/beats and your stuff is really good!

Each trucks/tractors/buggies take ANY of the following: Leaves, wood, mycelia, alien carapace, alien organs, flower petals, colour cartridge, fabric, biomass, solid biofuel, packaged liquid biofuel, coal, compacted coal, petroleum coke, packaged fuel, packaged turbofuel, packaged heavy oil residue, packaged oil, battery, nuclear fuel rod, plutonium fuel rod. Batteries last a LONG time also

yooo trucks are op when you look deep into them, and very good video kibitz

I think it hilarious that the truck has a health bar, but falling off a cliff, and rolling over a bunch of times doesn't even phase it, but the player gets damaged lol.

I would like to see a full harvest of the world. Not just beat it, but set your system up to gather and use the whole planet.

I like to use tractors and trucks because I don't have to build infrastructure for them, they can just go to the terrain (and also figuring out a good path is fun).

All those constructors... If only we had blueprints or something to deal with that ;)

i like how, 2.5k hours in, this game can still surprise you like that.

Well, only thing that happens with the trucks in our (coop) world, they deadlock^^ But we use dirt roads so maybe some paths intersect ;P

Great job!

that last truck at 20:01 ... even focusing on it with the blend at the end :-)

dont' be fooled by the numbers you're currently seeing Truck stops initially show a ***missive*** throughput number until item transfers settle out. however they can theoretically achieve a throughput of 99-100% of the belt throughput running through it.

Fun Fact: Trucks can use Uranium Fuel rods and Plutonium fuel rods without generating waste. i think its better than just shredding Plutonium.

Got an ad for macaroni just as you pressed the switch to nuke the bean. Found it hilarious 😂

At 11:16 you say 148, but type 481. Always a point of concern when the numbers don't match.

For all who are interested the truck's phasing mechanic only activates if the truck is following a route and was added in update 5 to make vehicles a more viable option for transporting resources over distances that trains would be impractical.

Imagine having a blue print for basic constructor set ups that you can slap down for occassions like this 🤤

I was hoping they'd give trucks an advantage like that just to offset the effort of figuring out fuel. I wonder what the range is for the different fuel types

You're gonna love the new blueprint mode thats coming soon in the next update.

aside from phasing trucks can now also teleport back to the nearest path marker if they fall off the road or roll over. Also those features are ONLY for autopilot you dont get to phase or teleport while recording the path

whether its trucks or trains once it balances out you're limited to the 1560 a minute of the belts feeding the station. Truck stations have the benefits of: A) continuing to load even when the truck is stationed (train stations stop moving items while trains are docked) B) they can use just about anything for fuel, and for really really long hauls you can use batteries on the trucks, as batteries get 10x the range of coal and 4x the range of fuel or 2x the range of turbofuel. (plutonium fuel rods may also be used for several real life hours of driving per, but will be radioactive at both the truck and station) C) can be refueled on both sides for maximum range D) no tracks needed Train stations have the benefits of: A) moving fluids without needing to package them B) speed for long distance travel C) throughput and segmentation due to multiple cars D) expandable E) once the rail network is built you just attach the new station and tell it where to go and the train handles the rest, no new path required. Benefits of drones: A) fastest transport B) they ignore terrain completely C) they can get to hard to reach places with ease for offbeat mini factories

I made all my pasta from one overclocked copper node it took forever but I was exploring all of the map whilst my factory slowly filled the elevator.

Your mega factory looks great. I wish trucks weren't so janky or I'd use them. I hate recording their paths and I hate how they operate, with invisible collisions, and drives like a drunk driver. The only fix the devs can add is a bandaid which teleports them. I've suggested to them many times to axe the physics, put in fake physics so it looks right and slide it along a editable spline path. That would work better than the mess they are right now. Trains need improvements too (especially when it comes to building the tracks). I am glad they are adding blueprints though.

In addition to the smaller inventory size of trains vs trucks, trains also need to wait to load/unload at stations, where the 2x780 pauses. More trains on the railway (increasing the throughput on the rail) = more pauses in the transfer rate when loading/unloading (decreasing the throughput at the stations). Trucks do not have this tradeoff, as loading/unloading does not pause belts.

I wonder if for long distance trains become better in throughput, since their animation time is less significant

Yo my man! Great video. Welcome to the truck world. Try out the efficiency with the explorers. They are faster and work great when you have steep slopes you have to climb. Good for when you don't have a ton of materials to transport.

We need logistics control of trucks, ie: being able to specify in the cargo reserved slots for certain types of material allowing you to split a load. Additionally we need to be able to specify which loading dock takes how much of any given material. So for example, you could have a truck with the inventory marked with 10 spots for iron plates and 10 spots for iron rods. The plates are marked 'A', the rods are 5 'A' and 5 'B'. Then you specify a dock to pick up Iron Rods (instead of the 'take everything out of the truck when it drives by' which ruins everything), and you can say 'only pick up A', then when the truck goes by it will suck all the rods out of the truck that are in slots marked 'A'.

I was was like “cool a new video, I’ll watch it later after I’ve set up my new train lines.” *insert Mistake singing opera singer*

So you'll finish the space elevator parts just in time for the blueprint machine to come out 😝

6:20 Do you optimise your trucks AI arrows? I generally cut out the messups including bad launches. then it just works unless you're not there. Also phasing only works when the AI is driving

Hey Kibs. Trucks run on Turbo Fuel and are very efficient with it. You know, if you want to go that route.

Now that you have something so satisfying set up, you really need to watch Let's Game It Out's latest Satisfactory video... It'll be painful, but worth it.

Ooh that "become patreon" slab is exquisite :o

Trucks were improved in update 5, at least that's when we had path saving. I mainly use them when I don't want to build a lot of infrastructure, so typically have tractors moving more material than I need so it doesn't matter if supply is intermittent.

yo you crazy broseph

this has always been the case. Even in update 5. The only time it doesn't work is when two auto-piloted trucks come head to head with each other.

I wish the invisible bounding box crashing when following a tractor would get fixed. It's been there for several updates now. Making new routes on a road with multiple vehicles inevitably hits one.

Physics : yeah you can’t pass through another truck, it’s a physical object you can’t just drive throu- Other truck : *And I took that personally*

Beware that Trucks do go a bit wonky sometimes when they don't hit their path nodes and may try and back up. So do a bit of long term monitoring while setting up the rest. But with 500-stack items throughput is not really a problem, can do fine with 5 stacks/min and it would saturate the two outputs.

Kibs out here playing cities skylines and satisfactory AT THE SAME TIME

Each truck have the same capacity as an industrial storage! Plus, you can set up 4 truck stations on a single path! 2 for loading, & 2 for unloading!!! Believe me, I have 1 truck going to all 4 stations! Unloading smokeless powder, plastic, & rubber! & then loading black powder, which is taken to be turned into smokeless powder! Not to mention packaged fuel, for the truck & for 'future' me (jetpack)!!! 😉

I'm hearing that truck will phase through if on automatic path, so yaaay your truck can yeet istelf onto the other highway! Try it pls.

Add collision to trains. Remove them for trucks. Perfect.

There a mod for an elevator for pioneers and vehicles. Awesome vid m8

I think it makes sense that trucks are more efficient than trains because they require more resources to get up and running. Trucks require fuel while trains require a reliable electricity grid to operate. I do not know if trains can travel long distances faster than trucks, but it seems like it.

"You gotta have a permit for that bud!" LOLOLOL

Wait to see kibs realise trucks stop for each other when there on auto pilot

And now that you're done...blueprints! Yay!

Kibitz I don't wanna spoil you but trucks getting back on their presettled track thing was introduced at U5.

Maybe I missed it but can you do a long form video showing how you build the infrastructure for your world? Like running belts, building foundations?

I wish there was a dubbed version of these videos where kibz just talks like a normal human being

14:39 DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!

Kibitz, would you mind sharing the color codes you are using for this factory? Looks like a combo of red and white, but I'm color blind (red-green), so I never have the confidence to choose the colors without their corresponding values.

I suspect the transfer rate for trucks will drop to 1560 once the truck station inventory fills up and is limited by the pair of mk5 output belts.

Also using the buggy to transport goods is fun their fast

You put the limestone in the constructor and crush it all up!

I'm inclined to agree. I used to call semis my friends when I was a kid. I loved Peterbilts, and the semis that haul cars, pickups, and SUV's. Trains are cool, too. But, they don't have a Jake-Brake that makes manly "FUTUTUTUTUTUTU" sounds.

You do know you can adjust where the jumpthingies shoot you right? After the first placement scroll the mousewheel to adjust trajectory 😁👍

trucks might transport more but truck station only got 1 line in and out where trains got 2 . still think you can transfer more by a daisy chain of trains.

Would the Wet Concrete recipe have been a better choice over the vanilla Constructor recipe?

Wish they'd bring out super fast belts. I used to play with a mod that went at 2000/min and it was fine. You don't even need to show the items - just have it be covered. Idk, call it a "Pressurized Hyper Belt" or something.

Keep Trucking Mr Beep

I suspect the logistics of building the nessisarly roads would be an issue trying to switch to trucks potentially making it more likely to hit the item limit. That said updating the nuclear choo into a nuclear vroom might be worth it.

600 hours is insane

Imagine having the whole world to build and being able to go to space and planets to build.

I'm gonna give the trucks a go as well now. They are amazing.

I cant even build 1 funcioning line without something going wrong but this here has blown my mind......

This is me screaming at the screen: Wet Concrete!! 😁

The only trucks that faze through things are the ones on autopilot driving on a recorded route. The trucks will also correct themselves if they get off there designated route.