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Truing a 700 Receiver With Taps 

Rod Henrickson Gunsmith
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This video shows how the receiver threads in an action are trued up and squared using multiple taps to minimize the amount of material removed while still getting an accurate fit.
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OK, for those who wanted to see how I recut action threads, this is it in a nutshell. It's a disgustingly simple thing once you see it done and it works VERY WELL! The tech is based on what some of the reamer makers are offering with the tap and mandrel being made as one unit. The big improvement with this system is that you do not have to hog out .010 of an inch out of the receiver. You only take what you need to clean it up. Only about 80% of the thread needs to be cleaned up to make the barrel screw in straight and square. Remember that doing this is pointless if the receiver face is not trued and even more pointless if the threads on your barrel are under sized. You need a friction fit between the barrel and receiver threads or the threads will cock to one side or the other and cause misalignment. A square shoulder will NOT correct this. Trust me on that I have tried it MANY times. The down side to this tech is the cost of the tooling.
It would be to long of a video to show the complete process of going from one tap to the next. But once you do and watch it progressively clean up one specific area more and more you begin to get an idea of how controlled and precise it actually is to do it this way. Plus when you do it in a cats head or a chuck using a boring bar you have slop in your headstock, flex in the apron, flex in the cats head, flex in the boring bar and the cutter dives and pushes away in hard and soft areas. This is a VERY rigid and precise way of doing it. Plus, as long as your bar fits the action tight, it's almost 100% idiot proof.
Over time I have found that 18mm, 1144 Stressproof is the simplest material to make mandrels out of. I was using 18mm 4140 pre-hard but it just isn't necessary. Plus, 4140 pre-hard likes to walk a bit when you turn or grind it. The first ones I did I also ground in the Cuttermaster. 18mm is about .7085 inches and Remington raceways range from about .704 and up but never as much as .7085. So really, you only have to remove no more than .016 inch from a piece of 18mm material to bring it to size and 1144 never walks when you turn or grind it in such small increments. I cut the mandrels in the lathe now. If my finish cut is a little to big or a little to small I put the bar into stock until I get an action that size and simply cut another. I have just over a dozen different ones now in what amounted to .0005 inch increments and haven't had to make one in a couple of years.

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30 мар 2022

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Комментарии : 35   
@johnyoung7794
@johnyoung7794 2 года назад
Been watching Action Truing videos for many years now. This is by far the best process and explanation that I have seen. Thank You
@TraditionalToolworks
@TraditionalToolworks Год назад
Rod, kudos to Tyler Shandro for standing up for the people of Alberta! I saw there are now 5 of the 13 provinces standing up to Trudy.👏
@Km-vl7xe
@Km-vl7xe 2 года назад
It's nice to see a competent gunsmith actually explaining the process. Thank you
@RodHenricksonGunsmith
@RodHenricksonGunsmith 7 месяцев назад
I only take walk in traffic. No mail order as I am a one man shop now.
@SpringfieldM1A
@SpringfieldM1A 2 года назад
good to see you posting again
@PuppetMaster1791
@PuppetMaster1791 2 года назад
Very informative as usual, thanks for the upload
@georgehunter4023
@georgehunter4023 6 месяцев назад
Dave Manson has a very nice truing tap that works very well also.
@clintchapman4319
@clintchapman4319 Год назад
Nice work Bud!
@marknaglreiter9330
@marknaglreiter9330 4 месяца назад
Excellent tip, thankyou.
@vettepicking
@vettepicking 2 года назад
Nice work
@bretthl1
@bretthl1 2 года назад
nice video, thanks.
@jtdehaanjr
@jtdehaanjr 2 года назад
Awesome instructional video! Love all the tooling that you make. Only problem with that wrench is that it sounds like a damned tuning fork!
@RodHenricksonGunsmith
@RodHenricksonGunsmith 2 года назад
Yup it's annoying. The wrench is actually aluminum so it won't damage the ways on the machine when I crash into them with it. Always thunkin, I is !
@jtdehaanjr
@jtdehaanjr 2 года назад
@@RodHenricksonGunsmith smart!
@ta2dmacabre
@ta2dmacabre 10 месяцев назад
Agree with some of what you said. However, the lateral force used on the wrench will cause an uneven force against the tsp causing inconsistency in the threads… just my opinion…. If you true the action by chasing the threads and going larger on pitch diameter would be my preferred method… after the receiver is indicated properly of course. I’ve only been doing toolmaker/gunsmith work for 40 years… everyone has their preferred method and ideas of what is or isn’t correct..
@RodHenricksonGunsmith
@RodHenricksonGunsmith 10 месяцев назад
Well, I check the run out after I'm done on every one I do. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LEkuiriSees.html If you figure .002 inch runout at 9 inches, .002÷9=.00022 off over one inch. I have yet to have anyone show me proof that they can cut that accurate with a boring bar on receiver threads. The big reason the taps cut that accurately is because I work up in tap sizes in .0005 inch increments and work the taps on and off until the cutting stresses are gone. Putting a ground bar in them afterwards and checking them with a 1/10th indicator is proof.
@ta2dmacabre
@ta2dmacabre 10 месяцев назад
Again, everyone has there preferred method… I’m finding it hard to buy the accuracy but if you say it works for you..then it works for you
@RodHenricksonGunsmith
@RodHenricksonGunsmith 10 месяцев назад
@@ta2dmacabre pretty simple to test. Next time you true one with a boring bar. Chuck a piece of material in the machine, thread it, screw the trued up body on it, run a tight fitting ground mandrel in it and check the run out at the end. I've used various systems to recut the threads and I have also checked quite a few that others trued up. I don't guess, speculate or estimate. I measure.
@ta2dmacabre
@ta2dmacabre 9 месяцев назад
I’ll give it a go… my other question is why would one side of a receiver be softer than the other side or any part like the locking lugs be softer?
@RodHenricksonGunsmith
@RodHenricksonGunsmith 9 месяцев назад
@@ta2dmacabre if you Rockwell test the receivers at different points you will find the tops and bottoms of the receivers are generally 1 to 3 points softer because they are heavier because of the locking seats and cool slower in the quench. The bad part of doing it with taps is the cost. The taps come in .0005 inch increments. If memory serves I bought H4, H6, H8, H10, H12, H14 to start in .001 inch increments and then I added H15, H16, H17, H18, H19 and H20 so I finish in .0005 inch cuts. H20 is .010 inch over sized. Somehow I think I ended up with a total of 12 taps. I had them special cut by Victor Machine tools in the USA. I think the bill for all of them was around $1,600.00 Canadian. It's not a cheap system.
@ccfirearms
@ccfirearms 7 месяцев назад
Where did you get your taps to begin with? I couldn’t make out where you said in the video? Thank you for the info!
@gadgethunter5732
@gadgethunter5732 Год назад
Would the same tooling work on other bolt action receivers?
@user-ql6om6kh5j
@user-ql6om6kh5j 7 месяцев назад
Can I send you a remington 700 action for you to tru and blueprint
@RodHenricksonGunsmith
@RodHenricksonGunsmith 7 месяцев назад
I only take in walk in work as I am a 1 man shop. No mail or shipped in work.
@user-ql6om6kh5j
@user-ql6om6kh5j 7 месяцев назад
Ok. Thank you very much for the reply. I’m in New Orleans so that’s a pretty far walk I’m sure.
@aaron9696
@aaron9696 2 года назад
What’s this cost to have done Mr Hendrickson?
@RodHenricksonGunsmith
@RodHenricksonGunsmith 2 года назад
I charge $250 CAD to do the threads, lap the lugs in, true the bolt face and action face. But I only do walk in traffic only. No mail in.
@austincook3735
@austincook3735 2 месяца назад
I don’t see how you’re more accurate with a tap. The tap is just following an already formed thread, so any runout is just expanded by the tap
@RodHenricksonGunsmith
@RodHenricksonGunsmith 2 месяца назад
The action follows the tight fitting mandrel which is locked solid to the tap. If something is out of alignment something has to give to let the action screw on to the tap. So, the action can bend, the mandrel can bend, the tap can bend or the tap can simply cut away the part of the thread that is miss aligned. When cutting and going up in 1/2 thousanths increments you can actually check between size jumps and see it cutting a bit more each time you check it. It keeps cutting from the same location until it screws up loosely and straight. Most of the time it will cut from one side only for the first three or four jumps in tap sizes and then it will finally start cutting completely around when everything gets straight. The best part is that each tap is 1/2 thousandths larger than the one before and the tap can cut no more than that 1,000th you don't have that kind of control when you single point cut.
@rashidabdul-salaam9090
@rashidabdul-salaam9090 8 месяцев назад
Can this be done single point?
@RodHenricksonGunsmith
@RodHenricksonGunsmith 8 месяцев назад
I have done many by single point. The problem with single point cutting is that you invariably take out more material than is necessary and they never seem to come out as accurate. The down side of the taps is having to buy the set of taps which ends up costing about $2,000 USD. The taps are more recommended for gunsmiths that will do many over the course of the years.
@TraditionalToolworks
@TraditionalToolworks 2 года назад
Hey Rod, are you still on the Homegunsmith Forums? Can you ping Ryan for me to get my login approved? I
@RodHenricksonGunsmith
@RodHenricksonGunsmith 2 года назад
I haven't posted on any of the forums in years.
@TraditionalToolworks
@TraditionalToolworks 2 года назад
@@RodHenricksonGunsmith Do you hang out on any forums these days? You have some good videos here though... :)
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