Trump Reviews Trump Reviews: Kobolds and Catacombs

Подписаться 741 тыс.

Просмотров 338 тыс.

50% 1

Review playlist: bit.ly/Trumpbold
⭐ Value games at: www.g2a.com/r/trump
What is the Star Rating System? Look below!
····················································································
00:00:36 - Druid
00:05:37 - Hunter
00:12:01 - Mage
00:16:57 - Paladin
00:24:11 - Priest
00:29:00 - Rogue
00:34:08 - Shaman
00:37:53 - Warlock
00:48:31 - Warrior
00:54:01 - Neutral
★★★★★
In a Tier 1 deck OR defines Tier 2 deck OR Multiple decks
★★★★
In a Tier 2 deck OR defines Tier 3 deck OR Multiple worse decks
★★★
In a Tier 3 deck OR occasional tech card
★★
Saw some competitive play at some point past the first week (more detailed technicals: the card sees play in at least 1% of decks according to hsreplay in a 14 day timeframe at some point for rank 5-Legend OR it placed highly in a competitive tournament)
★
Unplayed
····················································································
WATCH MORE HEARTHSTONE!
• Highlights: bit.ly/TrumpHighlights
• Constructed: bit.ly/TrumpMoreStandard
• Arena: bit.ly/TrumpMoreArena
• Tavern brawl: bit.ly/TrumpMoreBrawl
• Tournaments: bit.ly/TrumpTournament
• Deck teachings: bit.ly/TrumpTeach1
• Basic teachings: bit.ly/TrumpTeach2
····················································································
FOLLOW TRUMP!
💗 Subscribe: bit.ly/ValueTown
💗 Twitch: / trumpsc
💗 Facebook: / trumpsc
💗 Twitter: / trumpsc
····················································································
‣ Edited by: jnZaneHD
‣ Contact: jnzanehd@gmail.com

Игры

Опубликовано:

14 мар 2018

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист

Посмотреть позже

Комментарии : 424

@araonthedrake4049 6 лет назад

It may be a stupid request, but is there any chance you could do a trump reviews of basic and classic cards? I think a lot of new-returning players could use some form of a guide which cards are good and what only look good.

@dillantomlin1827 6 лет назад

I know it would take forever, but i think he should do this every standard rotation.

@meris8486 6 лет назад

That's a great idea shame so many cards were removed or nerfed from the set.

@heracles9595 6 лет назад

THIS

@felipeluz5035 6 лет назад

That's not a stupid request. That's a great idea! It would help not only returning players, but also new players. (Considering that they, somehow, find the video.) And even for veteran players, would be pretty interesting to watch. Not only that, since we have been experiencing with those cards for a long time, it would be much faster/easier for Trump to review those cards than new ones we have never tested. :v

@therecklessabandable 6 лет назад

"It is no small feat to be the first, and possibly only, ever card I'll give seven stars... Magma Rager, you live in our hearts eternal."

@turbohuang7780 4 года назад

"Look forward to Grumble, Worldshaker being good when better shaman cards are printed" *MY JAWS THAT BITE, MY CLAWS THAT CATCH*

@themuck5607 3 года назад

my first thought too

@scottsaunders9905 6 лет назад

That moment at the start where you confuse which is the present trump...

@amoose8439 6 лет назад

Jokes on you, Trump is a time traveler and exists outside our concept of time itself. Explains the trash rating for corridor creeper. And the whole winning the presidency thing.

@WnIyLkLvIiAsMt97 6 лет назад

Scott Saunders That moment at the begining when you forget which one is president Trump.

@joshc.2707 6 лет назад

The struggle is real.

@jahanrudge1063 6 лет назад

Take a shot every time he says "it turns out"

@Vil_Lama 6 лет назад

Don't

@lexolotlgod 6 лет назад

and "vision"

@drancosavale2010 6 лет назад

I'm already in hospital 😂😂

@vincentpelletier57 6 лет назад

How about: "Trump reviews Trump reviews, but every time he says "it turns out", the playback speed doubles", or some similar variation?

@alexandruanton8824 6 лет назад

5 minutes playing this game and already regreting

@xuspirahopte5549 2 года назад

I've been rewatching KnC content and realizing it's just as fun and crazy an expansion as I remember. If there were a way to custom select a format in this game, KnC would be the core I design around.

@tayonic5499 9 месяцев назад

Hopefully next twist format!!

@muotes 6 лет назад

Have you done any kind of data analysis on your Trump Reviews to see how prediction accuracy has changed over time, and whether you have any particular biases as regards to mana cost, class, etc.? It's really cool you hold yourself so accountable, and It'd be really interesting to see how the numbers have panned out

@finlaymckeown2891 6 лет назад

@NateRowand-jo2rf 6 лет назад

@leobastian_ 5 лет назад

Trump tends to underrate strong neutral Cards,for example ziliax and da Undatakah. Neutral Card tend to be used in 1/2 classes where they Support the Archetype,but Trump Sees neutral and Looks at the strong Decks without synergy.

@aidantaylor3324 6 лет назад

Possessed lackey was an easy miss with far too many moving pieces. If any of the healing wasn't there, the weapon that people thought would be destroyed covers its weakness, the 18 minimum additional health for each void lord and not losing by using 5 mana to kill something with cube or losing 5+ mana killing the cube with the huge tempo loss to get something doubled to then summon again. If someone accurately predicted that they would be so synergistic and that they could have so many weaknesses covered blizzard might need to have them disposed of so people don't have a solved meta they hate from the start. I can't fault trump for not being able to see it.

@famous_beatbox 2 года назад

Here in 2022 remembering the glory days of Hearthstone. Just loving being reminded of the meta.

@forestskilbred9461 6 лет назад

Despite all the hate Trump gets for his reviews, I think he did a good job with this hearthstone expansion cycle.

@aidenbar511 6 лет назад

Forest Skilbred I

@AGameGem 6 лет назад

I'm honestly impressed by how accurately most of these cards were rated. I feel Trump really tried harder this time around to learn from the mistakes of previous expansion ratings (i.e. 'lol priest')

@MrArtless1 6 лет назад

he actually did much better than before that's for sure.

@Dustypip 6 лет назад

Please keep doing Trump Review Trump Review. Its my favorite series of your channel. Thank you for all the work you do for our entertainment and for the Hearthstone community.

@iNahtanoJ 6 лет назад

I love how happy he is with himself when he's right, its cute

@maomekat7969 6 лет назад

iNahtanoJ T H E H A P P Y G A Y M A N

@mryoussefsonic 6 лет назад

What your looking for 1:06:23

@justjordan6560 6 лет назад

Droga24/7 dude..youre up here...you need to bring it down here

@blacklite911 6 лет назад

Also Carniverous cube I think it’s an archtype defining card. It takes the good warlock decks and make them extraordinary. Hell it has an entire archtype named after it. Maybe I’m just a salty tempo/aggro player but to me that card is 6 stars because that combo *completely* stops your tempo and can make it unrecoverable since it would be uninteractable to summon void lords if it’s combo’d late game if you made it that far with tempo.

@HaloNeInTheDark27 4 года назад

@@blacklite911 i come from the future to tell you we still hate cubelock

@LifeTechni800 6 лет назад

Trump might not make the best predictions sometimes, but I love that he goes back and sees which of his predictions were correct and incorrect, no other major HS personality does that. Very interesting concept which I always look forward to, ever since Naxxramus

@TaranPerry 6 лет назад

HES DONE IT. THIS IS tHE FIRST VIDEO THAT COMES UP WHEN YOU SEARCH trump!!! HES BEAT THE SYSTEM

@maomekat7969 6 лет назад

Taran Perry it I'd sadly not true. Searching fur trump brings trump pres. It must be from your watch history alas no beating the system

@TaranPerry 6 лет назад

I am the system now

@maomekat7969 6 лет назад

Taran Perry System OF A DOWN SUGGAAEEERRRR

@WnIyLkLvIiAsMt97 6 лет назад

Taran Perry second, for me.

@DenEr0c 6 лет назад

The re-uploadman

@M0torsagmannen 6 лет назад

yeah i wondered why i couldnt see the last one a couple hours ago

@Venoseth 6 лет назад

...but why?

@omfgitsandyb 4 года назад

Zuljin brought spell hunter to life

@lancejohnson3278 Год назад

“There were some really strong cards in this expansion”. Arguably one of the strongest expansions of all time. This set was insane.

@hobbes9513 5 лет назад

looking through these trump reviews trump reviews roughly a year later is pretty interesting. Some of the cards which weren‘t strong or used initially eventually became integral parts of strong decks later. This is especially true for many of the kft and gadgetzan cards as well. I‘m really looking forward to Trump reviews trump reviews for The Boomsday Project!

@HighLanderPonyYT 6 лет назад

Great format, Jens! Here's the super competitive crafting guide for anyone interested (4 and 5-star cards only, post patch, duh): - druid AHAHAHA nope - hunter 5 lesser emerald spellstone 4 wandering monster candleshot - mage 5 aluneth 4 explosive runes - paladin 5 call to arms crystal lion unidentified maul 4 drygulch jailor - priest 5 duskbreaker twilight acolyte - rogue 4 Fal'dorei Strider Elven Minstrel - shaman AAHAHAHAHA nope - warlock 5 voidlord rin, the first disciple skull of the man'ari possessed lackey lesser amethyst spellstone dark pact kobold librarian - warrior AHAHHHAHAH nope - neutral 5 carnivorous cube spiteful summoner grand archivist

@maomekat7969 6 лет назад

HighLanderPony Ahahhahaa

@Juanse2012 4 года назад

One of the most powerful expa in the game, the power level is so high holy moly, even by today's standards

@ConsoleCleric 6 лет назад

Card I most overrated: Master Oakheart. Card I most underestimated: Corridor Creeper. Card I called exactly: Aluneth.

@TheZombieslayer2002 6 лет назад

ConsoleCleric wild cubelock with MO is pretty good cause you can just pull out things like voidcaller, voild lord, rin , with possesd lacky and tar creepy

@eVill420 5 лет назад

how did you exactly overrate master oakheart it's a solid 5 star card did you give it 30 stars or something?

@stillprophet7529 6 лет назад

26:10 perfect pause timing

@sirhawkjames 3 года назад

These review reviews are extremely valuable for someone getting back into hearthstone after a long time

@ramonestefano 6 лет назад

Your reviews are great, and it's own reviews done by yourself are fantastic. I learn a lot.

@erika4033 6 лет назад

Finally. Been waiting forever for this

@MrFireInTheDisco 6 лет назад

Yup. Fun kickoff to hype season.

@humbletreestump8134 6 лет назад

I love this series!!!

@cladothehobbit8290 6 лет назад

Also, twilight's call saw play in the weasel priest that went around, not sure if that actually became a tier 4 deck though

@eliastav 6 лет назад

Man i love these trump reviews trump reviews

@ragnarokreykr888 6 лет назад

I literally was looking for a video like this, fell asleep, and then bam, I woke up to this.

@bigjuice2623 4 года назад

I dont understand how is rhokdelar and to my side a sometimes card in spellhunter, those are the cards why the deck exists! If you dont have those why even have a spellhunter?

@subprogram32 6 лет назад

Thank god, I was worried and sad that we would not get a Trump Reviews Trump Reviews of the latest expansion!

@fridtjofhattrem 6 лет назад

Are u doing trump vs amaz in the new expansion ?:)

@yunikage 6 лет назад

The very first deck I tried was possessed lackey, voidlord, Rin, N'Zoth. The doomguard stuff never occurred to me at all. Never used Skull. It actually worked really well.

@TheForhekset 6 лет назад

Jasper stone is must include for druid, I don't know how he missed that one it was so obviously good.

@Kentauros1991 6 лет назад

Ah, so you fixed the "1 Star: Meta-defining; 5 Stars: Unplayable" description, and now Trump's predictions are more accurate. Tsk-tsk!

@brettroper1031 6 лет назад

Kentauros1991 uhh wot

@tylerperlenfein 6 лет назад

Kentauros1991 he would always use this rating system, I don't know when you are referring to of him using 1 star is best

@Kentauros1991 6 лет назад

This video was re-uploaded because right in the first minute the screen described the stars in the reversed order: so the bottom one read "5 Stars: Unplayable".

@sicazz6875 6 лет назад

I thought he was memeing with the whole guldan 1 star thing

@elanromaine183 6 лет назад

What candle shot was a staple in a tier 2 deck gave hunter bro, that’s hit got me to legend easy

@RoKModder 6 лет назад

@Jens Do you ever preemptively design the edit format for the first review video, around the second Trump Reviews Trump Reviews video which will happen in the future? Just sayin, for this video looks like Trump is nice and snug in the corner of the vid, which is really comfortable to watch :).

@TheCephalon 6 лет назад

Weird that tirion and highmane would be considered 2 or 3 star cards now because of archetypes

@nexalacer 6 лет назад

Re: Fal’dorei Strider, pre-patch this was a potential tech in Tempo Rogue, which was a Tier 2 deck. Why only two stars?

@skater6511 6 лет назад

Why is Level Up! a rare card in this review?

@artimex723 4 года назад

Watching this in Ashes of Outland meta kinda' makes me wonder, why does Shaman always suck, when they get Totem and Control synergies? I mean, it has always been that way. Totem Shaman hasn't really ever worked, as well as Control Shaman. Basically Shaman always ends up in a tier 1, when they get some kind of new archetype, that's not Totem or Control. Jade Shamn, Shudderwock Shaman, Galakrond Shaman - these are the most well known powerful decks that Shaman had. For some reason Blizzard tries really hard to push Control Shaman into Existance but it simply doesn't work, and the only serious change that would make Totem Shaman a good deck, would be changing it's upgraded hero power to summon 2 random totems instead of a 1 of your choice. These are just my thoughts, don't mind me 😅

@intem333 6 лет назад

i love how so much of rogue is so much better in wild. so many fun decks and the secrets are just good.

@cladothehobbit8290 6 лет назад

Would you ever consider doing an additional part of trump reviews Trump reviews, where you go into at the end of an expansion how cards that may have failed in standard fared in wild? I just know that I saw ixlid be 1 star here, but he turned into a defining part of the malygos druid it wild deck

@brycex5133 6 лет назад

props to trump for admitting he missed a lot this expac

@ABeardedSage 6 лет назад

I like the fact that despite all the flack he gets, he never stops doing reviews and he accepts each miss as a learning experience for the next one. Eventually, we'll get a perfect review and then Hearthstone will shut down because there's nothing left to do.

@vindikaktus 6 лет назад

ABeardedSage Well yeah, just because an army of captain hindsights throw him flack two months after the meta has settled he's still the best dude when it comes to reviews.

@i_am_ergo 6 лет назад

Not admitting misses would be plain dumb. However, he doesn't admit them fully, which pisses me to no end. He's not dumb, but he's still a little baby when it comes to admitting mistakes.

@cameronmiller6240 6 лет назад

I think overall he had a really good prediction rate though.

@i_am_ergo 6 лет назад

Not really. Minus the ratings of obvious unplayable garbage, filler and overly optimistic cards - his predictions have been as mediocre as always.

@PLJogging 6 лет назад

Isn't The Runespear played in some Shaman lists?

@BuzzaB77 6 лет назад

oh the lolz. props for doing these hindsight vids though.

@bestbest5284 6 лет назад

Thanks!

@TheCephalon 6 лет назад

The OTK corrupted healbot is not a meme deck. Thijs used it to get to rank 1 legend

@imtx_xmti 6 лет назад

TheCephalon Thijs is the meme god,do not try to imitate him

@dasistmeinnamedasistmeinna9662 6 лет назад

58:07 unjustified imo. I use it in constructed, it is not only fun but also really helpful. When i haven board control on turn three, i always put it on the field. A few turns later if i have it i carnivorous cube it, if i have one in my hand faceless manipulator the cube, then i have 4 shrooms, due to board limit i only get 3 one drops each turn but thats still so powerful that control and aggro decks start trading into those small little guys.

@HeloisGevit 6 лет назад

Ixlid sees play in a tier 1 Wild deck but 1 star rated for standard, funny how that works!

@johnnythedark3090 6 лет назад

Helois Gevit he plays only standard/arena, so yea...

@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 6 лет назад

I honestly think that instead of summon Al'akir, Windshear should have combined all 4 totems into TOTEMTRON, DEFENDER OF THE UNIVERSE! A 4 mana 7/7 with Charge and Mega-Ultra-Turbo-Super Windfury (Can attack infinity times). Or something, I dunno.

@calebbonney4193 6 лет назад

Drew Armstrong, The Glorious Lobster Emperor so the old bad mech combo

@chuave152 6 лет назад

You did better than the last time imo. Good job.

@alladar2010 6 лет назад

Can you make a video explaining how decks are determined to be TIER 1-4? Is it from a website? More than one? How many in each tier? The difference between tiers. Etc.

@GolDRoger-gd8wz 6 лет назад

The review man OMEGALUL

@pollyphemeus 6 лет назад

wait, Rohk-Delar doesn't even make the list for its own spell deck? I missed out on a decent hunter weapon related to Big hunter for that thing! and now its not even good enough?! Dammit Blizzard.

@calvinng6792 6 лет назад

Polephemeus yeah, Lesser Emerals Spellstone essentially carries the deck now

@Lors_101 6 лет назад

What's the point in running spell hunter then though when you can run good spells and good minions, and if the deck has minions then it's just secret hunter so it must only have a like 2 minions max

@Gio-qu7qe 6 лет назад

What's the point in running minions when spells are so much better than minions?

@vince2778 6 лет назад

Clayton Smith You only put in Barnes and Yash to get that combo, there are some other strong minions but non are worth ruining the consistency of the Barnes/Yash combo for

@akhsdenlew1861 6 лет назад

Turns out that random hunter spells are not that good to make you win. In spell hunter, secrets and weapons will carry u in early game, and spellstone will carry the rest. And sometimes u just win with coin barnes. That's the deck. Ironically enough, The weapon and to my side are not good enough for their only deck they can be put on. Awfull job there by blizzard, however with Yasaraj getting finally removed and with new cards coming this can very easily change, so keep that in mind.

@alexanderreusens7633 6 лет назад

Aah, the stars lined up this time :)

@TemporarilyWoW 6 лет назад

didnt kolento get rank 10 legend with kingsbane rogue?

@elliotdahl2986 6 лет назад

Ixlid was played though... shouldn’t it be 3 starts???

@TzarNicco 6 лет назад

I crafted Master Oakheart because of Trump... damn you!

@MonkeyJazz75 6 лет назад

Why is Marin the Fox's Master Chest a Warlock class card? Lol

@mitchbrook4112 6 лет назад

THaanks DAD TRUMP REVIEWS TRUMP REVIEWS TRUMP REVIEWS ARE MY LIFE

@quieness 6 лет назад

Some token druids still run creeper cuz you can still buff the attack to a decent amount and has high HP. I though this card would absolutly die and see play absolutly nowhere, turns out there are a liiittle bit of them around here and there.

@cathsaigh2197 6 лет назад

In my experience Feral Gibberer is actually pretty good in Arena.

@cupmallows 6 лет назад

Master chest is a warlock card?

@slushyjarl5486 6 лет назад

Trump Twig is used in wild as is ixlid to great success!

@richardclark7990 6 лет назад

guild recruiter should be 2 stars for its roll in quest druid, that's my only two cents for this video :)

@blacklite911 6 лет назад

Trump used to include more asterisks for arena cards. Which to me a lot of the neutral cards in this set are designed for, there’s sooo many arena champions in this set. So I think in the future with rating the neutral cards it would be informative for people to include arena value into the rating. There’s 2 and 3 rated cards that are 5 Star in arena. Especially nowadays since there are some many people converting to arena specialists because the constructed meta gets so stale so fast.

@Alter292 6 лет назад

blacklite911 arguably though this meta has been the freshest we have ever seen for an expansion. I don’t think the meta has even been really figured out yet. Pre and post patch are even two totally different worlds. It’s crazy given how Keleseth ruled and now sees virtually no play

@facundomoralesdiorio3802 6 лет назад

I'm amazed how Reynad predicted the Patches, Southsea Captain and Corridor Creeper issue correctly.

@bordeaux1337 6 лет назад

Doesn't Reynad usually do his reviews after release ?

@HeloisGevit 6 лет назад

How can you rate Kathrena so low when the deck that includes here is tier 2 if not 1 according to hsreplay win rates.

@Drsteezymcgee 6 лет назад

Mage weapon is 3 star mostly.. Maybe 4 star at best right now

@SonikChaos 6 лет назад

candleshot was better pre-nerf because it enabled aggro hunter to run southsea deckhand

@DatMageDoe 6 лет назад

Random Idea: Why not do a Year in Review review? Basically a larger version of a normal Trump Reviews where you review all cards leaving rotation before they leave rotation, and assess how they've risen and dropped in popularity throughout the 2 years of being in Standard. It's obviously going to be a lot of work, but it'd be really cool to see how these cards' use cases have evolved over a 2 year timeframe.

@JaxonHaxon 6 лет назад

The irony, it should be '"Pre-Patches"' and 'Post-"Patches"'

@fr6976 6 лет назад

It is kinda surprising to see trump get a lot of these cards right actually... comparing it to other reviewers review and his previous reviews on older expansion, I do see that he is improving a lot on card reviews

@garrettmeep1228 6 лет назад

I realise this will not be read but the hunter card cave hydra, I believe was under rated I use two copies in my deck as a board clear mid-late game beside my rhino or hound master. This usually clears a large minion chain gang or other taunts easily gaining back the board. Just requires some reinforcement cards

@Gio-qu7qe 6 лет назад

The deck isn't good and if you don't have a card to buff it it's a 3 mana 2/4. Not even close to being good against Tier 1 and Tier 2 decks.

@JordanWalker85 6 лет назад

Nice.

@HeloisGevit 6 лет назад

Stoneskin basilisk sees play in a variant of Spiteful Priest, not a 1 star card.

@driver2007 5 лет назад

I usually use aluneth in my aggro mage

@Dadude572 6 лет назад

Did he forget about the alternate exodia mage?

@HighLanderPonyYT 6 лет назад

So, it turns out there are only about 21 cards that are must crafts competitively. Sounds good. If they keep this up every expansion you'll just have to wait a long time to get the picture and save a bunch of dust, lol. :P

@jerodast 6 лет назад

Man, is this the last we're gonna see of the Creeper Trump outro? One of my favorites :'(

@devonhalford5522 6 лет назад

YES

@TheForhekset 6 лет назад

I don't agree spell Hunter is a teir 2 deck it only does well if you draw barnes and emerald spell stone, and even then your openent might have an answer, they don't uasly but even still.

@Ocara115 6 лет назад

Well Ixlid is the defining card for Malygos Druid in wild, and that's a tier 1 deck. I'd give it at least 4 stars.

@Alter292 6 лет назад

Ocara115 he rates cards on standard play not wild :):):)

@VarjoPira 6 лет назад

Trump barely managed to call Runespear a weapon, haha.

@hoozentroger 6 лет назад

How the hell is fungal lord one star now? Its a component of the pretty decent maly druid.... gosh

@rawovunlapin8201 6 лет назад

20:36 rare "Level Up!"?????

@henryst5 6 лет назад

Rhok’Delar isn’t run in Spell-Only Hunter?!?

@Noles4life77 6 лет назад

Henry Steinthal yea he was mixing spell only hunter with secret hunter, 2 very similar decks but very different

@Gio-qu7qe 6 лет назад

Clayton Foreman No he wasn't mixing those two decks up, Rhok'Delar doesn't make the cut in lots of versions of Spell Hunter.

@ToM92MoT 6 лет назад

Rhok'Delar isn't good enough for spell hunter compared to the possible highroll of Barnes into Y'shaarj turn 4

@Nikike999 6 лет назад

How is Ixlid one star when it is played in Maly Druid, which was at times a decent deck?

@proface5209 6 лет назад

laughterline That's a wild deck, these are standard ratings

@Nikike999 6 лет назад

No, it is not a wild deck, it's both a standard and a wild deck.

@proface5209 6 лет назад

laughterline In Standard it's a really low tier deck, so in standard it's 1 star

@Nikike999 6 лет назад

proface nah, it used to be a tier 2-3 deck pre-nerf. He gave Kathrena 2 stars, and she only saw niche play in meme decks

@proface5209 6 лет назад

laughterline sorry man, but it wasnt tier 2 or even 3 pre patch

@milos1967 5 лет назад

"They did a really good job with druid" just wait a year trump, and they might start seeming a little worse

@delirium1326 11 месяцев назад

Why did trump stop this series? 😢

@HighLanderPonyYT 6 лет назад

Gud job, Trump!

@pokebalzzz02 6 лет назад

Am I the only one still confused as to why Level Up! was displayed as a rare instead of an epic?

@TheForhekset 6 лет назад

Candle shot and crushing walls are still terrible, they're only played because lack of good Hunter removal. Crushing walls compared to physic scream or twisting nether, or dragon fire potion, or meteor, ect. really highlights how horrible it is. I like like playing midrange Hunter I wasnt able to make it work this exspansion because Hunter got shafted, all they got was spellstone and katerina is fun but there isn't enough good Hunter cards for a mid range Hunter. Hunter needs card draw.