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Trying A/C Renew to Unstick a TXV 

John Israel HVAC
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@jpnatlanta
@jpnatlanta 2 года назад
Next time, try this. Unplug condenser fan motor and get pressures up to 500… cycle condenser fan motor by touching it to power keeping the head to about 500. Get you some hot water and ice water in a cup- and dip the bulb- that helps exercise the valve. She’ll break loose. I’ve had 2 I couldn’t get to come around. I yelled through the phone “release the pressure” and giggled when you said it. Same with you wiggling your wireless clamps to get temps. Great video my friend.
@lawrencepatrickheller558
@lawrencepatrickheller558 Год назад
You introduced a large amount of air, a non- condensable. That's a rookie move bro
@cruzhvac4551
@cruzhvac4551 2 года назад
You definitely put air into that system. I would of removed the txv sensing bulb and manually tried to actuate the valve to see if it even moves. It a long shot but could of broke it free. None the less always enjoy your videos keep them coming.
@adamcraig1568
@adamcraig1568 2 года назад
Eh, the filter drier will get the added moisture lol
@drgjs
@drgjs 2 года назад
I thought the same thing. Is there any way to purge their air out prior to introducing the ac renew into the system? I gotta think there is, and I'm just an amateur.
@justinh7957
@justinh7957 2 года назад
@@adamcraig1568 filter drier won't take the air out though lol
@adamcraig1568
@adamcraig1568 2 года назад
@@justinh7957 true, but we gotta test the compressors endurance and reliability lol
@jimmyp5487
@jimmyp5487 2 года назад
Was just typing same thing. If your gonna make educational video do it right so the junior tech dont screw up
@craigoldenburg2730
@craigoldenburg2730 2 года назад
Perfect solutions to your issues just the way I have handled that problem before great job been doing hvac 40 years you know what your doing john
@CircleD1
@CircleD1 2 года назад
Screw the arm chair techs. Do what you need to get your customer going and when you can get the parts come back and set it back. You'll get a customer for life then.
@patrickhenry550
@patrickhenry550 2 года назад
Shouldn’t there be a way to purge the air out of the “injector” before injecting?
@jasonjohnsonHVAC
@jasonjohnsonHVAC 2 года назад
He didn't purge his hoses, and yes there is a way to purge the air out.
@ivancook1247
@ivancook1247 2 года назад
It fills completely no air in there
@D4x4Bronc
@D4x4Bronc 2 года назад
Not without wasting the product
@DC_Dan
@DC_Dan 2 года назад
@@ivancook1247 if you have air in the hose end and hoses attached to the manifold then open the ports all that air enters the system contaminating it. Any air gap in the injector would also Introduce air.
@briancarlisi2224
@briancarlisi2224 2 года назад
Lol… I noticed that as well
@scotts4125
@scotts4125 2 года назад
I see a good, honest and knowledgeable tech who just as importantly cares about his customers. I tried not to cuss :)
@christofffer
@christofffer 3 месяца назад
I agree with the TXV and Piston comparison!! Let’s discuss Duct work sizing before we even attempt to discuss how much efficiency you’d lose from a TXV to. Fixed piston Good work brother stay safe
@scottk0623
@scottk0623 2 года назад
Supco oil works well too.
@bassjasinski
@bassjasinski 2 года назад
You can use that ball valve on the injector to bleed the air from the injector once the high side is connected.
@micahroach1995
@micahroach1995 2 года назад
Yeah normally your supposed to purge the can before you start adding to the system. Didn't see you purge your hoses either but that part could have been edited out. But that AC renew stuff has never worked for me with unsticking valves. I've always put it in older systems as preventative
@jeffduncan2942
@jeffduncan2942 Год назад
Great video. Just one suggestion, or actually two. One I recommended cracking the valve and letting some of the atmospheric air out of the injector. You will get a little oil so turn it away from you. Also I highly recommend Supco oil. It’s a real pain because if it gets on you or your vehicle it stinks to high heaven! Use what you need and throw the rest out, because it’s only $12-15 and it’s not worth taking an open bottle with you. You can also charge the same but have a better profit margin. Both products work great but the old school Supco seems to have a better batting average for me
@CoastAir-HVAC-R
@CoastAir-HVAC-R Год назад
In my experiences with Supco also. And Definitely would not recommend keeping any leftovers that product does have a smell to it lol. And keep up the good work also young man I enjoy watching your videos.
@nothankyou5524
@nothankyou5524 Год назад
I have a suggestion. Learn to do the work. I walk onto a commercial job with contacted time performance guarantees and I see something like this, the contractor either had you replaced in less than 30 minutes, or in 31 minutes, I'm on my way home, never to return for ant job that contractor calls me about. He can hire anyone he wants, but life is short, and I don't work with "stupid"
@leoaz4667
@leoaz4667 2 года назад
Thx for the new update!!! Glad to see you're doing great
@Jetski270
@Jetski270 2 года назад
John you are thinning out Great video. Love your channel as I learn so much.
@mrredd8490
@mrredd8490 2 года назад
Me being new to the Hvac world this video answered my questions about renew
@paulierluva
@paulierluva 2 года назад
keep up amazing job John . you are a great mechanic dont worry about what people say do what u feel is right u are mechanic on job.. love ur troubleshooting videos man..
@jackcline1581
@jackcline1581 2 года назад
I 💯 agree with you on changing out a txv an putting in a piston. Them txv will always break. An when they do it is always in the close position never open.
@AudiophileTommy
@AudiophileTommy 2 года назад
TXV - every time I see those three letters together I get so mad I could chew NAILS !
@JimAlderson-cn6ek
@JimAlderson-cn6ek Год назад
Before retiring worked for carrier dealer they had run of bad txv due to bad manufacturing practices they had they're type of renew product we had to use for warranty had 0 luck with product and pissed off customer because they had to wait that mutch longer to get txv and change it and yes if u don't blead that injection tool u will introduce air into system its just a matter of slightly cracking line on boath sides of tool for a couple seconds to pressurize each side to remove air tool should come with proper instruction on proseidure
@tphvac87
@tphvac87 2 года назад
I think you did what you could John, in this trade that’s all we can do. Good thing you going that valve man, I’ve been having the same issues here. Nice work bro!
@SilverBackELTorro
@SilverBackELTorro 4 месяца назад
Your right. The TXV don’t give that much efficiency on that unit. I went thru that nightmare here in NYS in the middle of nowhere. 😂😂😂
@floydhvac4029
@floydhvac4029 2 года назад
You did the same thing I have done with the AC Renew. My experience with it, it hasn’t been the best. Supco88 is a lot better, or it has been for me. If it’s a heat pump I usually make the reversing valve go into heat and cool mode to get it flowing both ways and it seemed to help quite a bit when I use AC renew.
@tommyt5815
@tommyt5815 2 года назад
Damn bro I been gone for about a year . You look good man , seems you lost weight , getting healthier . Great video man
@embassykingdomapparel5525
@embassykingdomapparel5525 2 года назад
Why not replace the air handler as well.. 🤷🏾‍♂️ just a thought 💭
@jasonjohnsonHVAC
@jasonjohnsonHVAC 2 года назад
I remember getting that stuff back in 2013-2014 when Trane had the run of compressors that would wax up the metering device. That anti corrosion crap ruined a lot of systems
@D4x4Bronc
@D4x4Bronc 2 года назад
Ruined systems +$4500 compressor replacement then another failure.
@spaceboy7192
@spaceboy7192 2 года назад
I worked a 15 ton York with 3- 5 ton scrolls all with sticky TXVs due to the corrosion inhibitor. RTU was under warranty and York sent me 3 can with the injector. Installed the snake oil and within an hour all back to normal. Couldn't believe it worked and never had a problem.
@mattjudd5275
@mattjudd5275 2 года назад
Enjoy your videos man. Nice work
@andymons8499
@andymons8499 2 года назад
So it’s seafoam for an ac ??
@dylandrymond3839
@dylandrymond3839 2 года назад
Save yourself some time and just change the txv. I have had zero success with AC renew. Two things should be in a refrigeration system: 1.) oil that came with it 2.) refrigerant I seen Ted Cook using dye so I would stay away from that mess as well. We should just change the parts if they are bad. We should use sniffers to find leaks or ultra sonic leak detector's. Thanks again.
@joshhodges5688
@joshhodges5688 2 года назад
I have use it in Lennox first Gen 410a units. I make it run around for a week and it works most of the time.
@pibblesnbits
@pibblesnbits 11 месяцев назад
Isn't there air in the injector that is also getting sucked into the unit?
@jvsmeds
@jvsmeds 2 года назад
John I had a brand new unit with the same issues. I ordered a new txv and when I went to replace it there was a piston in the distributer tube. So the factory put the piston in and a txv on top. Talk about a crazy service call.
@obedb093
@obedb093 2 года назад
did you remove the piston?
@jvsmeds
@jvsmeds 2 года назад
@@obedb093 Of course I did then it worked like a charm. Boy when quality control in the manufacturing fails isn't that a " Never seen this diagnosis before in any of my textbooks" job
@perrymckinney6146
@perrymckinney6146 2 года назад
Anyone have any luck with freeing up reversing valves with this nu calgon ?
@stevencarrillo3615
@stevencarrillo3615 Год назад
I would have done the same thing as you because I have found the same problem to different types of split systems like a Reem and Goodman but it works.
@zsaskitsalot8815
@zsaskitsalot8815 2 года назад
Great video as always.I would check with zsa aka the docta of hvac and see what he thinks
@Gus11445
@Gus11445 Год назад
Hopefully you checked blower speed, evaporator, secondary HEX condition and possibly ductwork for issues. Don't think you mentioned any of those. Could very well be a bad metering device but bad airflow over evaporator will cause low superheat and low suction pressure. Boiling water and ice water on the txv bulb can unstick the valve also.
@btkl316
@btkl316 7 месяцев назад
What happened to all the air in your injector?
@TheViotorj
@TheViotorj 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing good video, you are good 👍
@izzymoney85
@izzymoney85 2 года назад
Don't you got to purge the air out our the renew injector before adding it to the system? And if so i didn't see the process on how to but great content brother 👍
@firesprk
@firesprk 2 года назад
Thanks for video John. I haven’t tried to use that stuff. I’ve seen where Ted has in past.
@chriskilmon5468
@chriskilmon5468 2 года назад
If you aren't getting the AHRI rating anyway for warranty purposes then throw a piston in and get them going. Good on you
@SerialkillerinTraining
@SerialkillerinTraining 2 года назад
Love your stuff, it’s channels like yours that helped me find a trade I’m interested in. Gonna go to HVAC school soon and I look forward to getting to work!
@brucea1890
@brucea1890 2 года назад
Thx for info john👍
@conradochamberlain2400
@conradochamberlain2400 Год назад
say buddy,i seen afrend use that additive and it wouldnt work but this man tapped on the value with a rench several time an man it started un freezing the txv tryit it works..
@smacleod69
@smacleod69 2 года назад
Why did the h/0 not get the air handler
@HNIC86
@HNIC86 2 года назад
Keep up the great work 👍
@josepagan9236
@josepagan9236 2 года назад
Hi Trane have this problem for many years I did installed one unit 7 years ago the same problem you have I have to replaced the TXV plus inyector too much work for us brand new unit
@cameronrimmer2819
@cameronrimmer2819 2 года назад
Depending on age and condition of the AHU, i would rock a piston. Other wise consider changing the AHU. Some trane TXV’s can be a pain to change. Great video!!
@Hvac1984
@Hvac1984 2 года назад
Keep up the great work bud
@diegomartinez-kr8lq
@diegomartinez-kr8lq 2 года назад
I have use the other type of A/C renew the one that u don’t use your injecter. Is there a difference in the product John ?
@727jester
@727jester Год назад
Yo you never purged the cylinder hose and cylinder and you just straight poured it in there with all that air and moisture
@timrob0420
@timrob0420 2 года назад
Good work man
@TheMcGuireLife
@TheMcGuireLife 2 года назад
You Got to do what ever it takes, to get the air conditioner cooling again.
@craigmarshall40
@craigmarshall40 2 года назад
Just wondering if you can inject it in the liquid side with screw typ injector tool if that would be better . I have done this with the supco red oil and has worked let me know what your thoughts are thx Israeli love your videos
@donnellbaxter8050
@donnellbaxter8050 2 года назад
Did you troubleshoot the TXV by putting the unit in heat ,and putting a small magnet on the shaft to see if it moved when called for cooling.
@zafeli857
@zafeli857 2 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@williamserver4332
@williamserver4332 2 года назад
That's nuts that a HVAC contractor can also be a dealer. I've never seen or heard of that hete in PA
@xaviergonzalez2127
@xaviergonzalez2127 2 года назад
Piston is 👍 especially mix match systems.
@adamcraig1568
@adamcraig1568 2 года назад
Good video
@Eddy63
@Eddy63 2 года назад
Do what you have to do ... Good vid ... Thx ...
@josephp1592
@josephp1592 Год назад
LOL. Dude made a video of him injecting air into the system
@javiercruz2241
@javiercruz2241 Год назад
Y wouldnt you have put a whole new system
@grantbrown2432
@grantbrown2432 2 года назад
Love ur vids man, any way u can demonstrate to a young tech on how to trouble shoot a grounded compressor next video? Thank you brotha love ur vids
@jhhawaii8
@jhhawaii8 2 года назад
Never heard of that product. Nice try with it though. Hope the TXV change out goes well!
@mikemoseley204
@mikemoseley204 2 года назад
Nothing wrong with a piston
@cameronrimmer2819
@cameronrimmer2819 2 года назад
I wanna see a truck tour!!
@rossflores4394
@rossflores4394 2 года назад
Hey John I live in New Orleans Have you ever tried AC supply or butcher
@nothankyou5524
@nothankyou5524 Год назад
Are you kidding? Do you interact with anyone doing contracted time performance commercial work? What's next? Marvel Mystery Oil?
@HylianOverlord
@HylianOverlord 2 года назад
I would be worrried about having all those tools in the cab with me in an accident.
@justinfrechette366
@justinfrechette366 2 года назад
Never change a txv with a fixed orvice
@usaalldaway6698
@usaalldaway6698 2 года назад
God Bless the USA 🇺🇸
@stephwaylonwells3218
@stephwaylonwells3218 2 года назад
👍
@MariosACandRefrigeration
@MariosACandRefrigeration 2 года назад
you could always show a vid on the power head.
@hvaclifeatx7012
@hvaclifeatx7012 2 года назад
Nice work bud 👌🏻
@gsmills100
@gsmills100 2 года назад
Phaque
@realestateservicessaleshea99
@realestateservicessaleshea99 2 года назад
🤔🍺🥃⛳️
@georgen.8027
@georgen.8027 2 года назад
Great job! But, it's "additive" not 'sedative"
@johnisraelhvac2019
@johnisraelhvac2019 2 года назад
Aww well whatever
@georgen.8027
@georgen.8027 2 года назад
@@johnisraelhvac2019 Try to film the valve replacement... great to see ur videos again
@johnisraelhvac2019
@johnisraelhvac2019 2 года назад
I plan to film it buddy!!
@SerialkillerinTraining
@SerialkillerinTraining 2 года назад
Technically I think sedative is applicable in this case as it’s a temp fix until the part comes in…
@curtm.1684
@curtm.1684 2 года назад
New unit? Crap fix? Not acceptable.
@REFERTECH4U
@REFERTECH4U 2 года назад
Hey John you’ve lost a lot of weight what’s your secret?
@MariosACandRefrigeration
@MariosACandRefrigeration 2 года назад
you have an r 22 exp,replace the refrigerant to r 407c.been there done that.if your delta and s/h is not right let me know.
@justinh7957
@justinh7957 2 года назад
He said it was a 410a txv. New rheem 410a condensor
@MariosACandRefrigeration
@MariosACandRefrigeration 2 года назад
@@justinh7957 he also said the old condenser was r22,and thats the pressure you get with an r 22 valve,and a 410 a condenser with 410a refrigerant.
@justinh7957
@justinh7957 2 года назад
@@MariosACandRefrigeration he also said that the condensor was r22 with a 410a txv indoors
@MariosACandRefrigeration
@MariosACandRefrigeration 2 года назад
@@justinh7957 a pluged txv will overheat the compressor,a bad power head will run erratic pressures like 80 then 50.r22 valve with r410 will run right at freezing steady.
@ivancook1247
@ivancook1247 2 года назад
Well he didn't do. It correctly
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