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Trying to Dirty Flag a Computer Cheater

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In this video, I play a 10-minute chess game in the lichess.org's Hourly Rapid Arena. After a strange opening, my opponent played flawlessly and it became clear from post-game analysis that nearly every move matched Stockfish's top choice. However, I tried to fight and use the clock as a weapon.
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@phrophetsamgames 3 года назад

"I like the fact my opponent's thinking" Stockfish: yeah let me get to depth 30.

@gsk_chess2666 3 года назад

Underrated comment

@fishermanz 3 года назад

@@gsk_chess2666 a

@calebvr3526 3 года назад

@@fishermanz b

@hellooo12 3 года назад

@@calebvr3526 c

@alanjrubin2012 3 года назад

@@gsk_chess2666 d

@JohnHazl 3 года назад

Me watching chess videos when I already know the opponent is cheating: "Oh yeah this person is definitely cheating look at them"

@xxcattoxx544 3 года назад

They're playing it wrong he didnt say uno like what everyone did know he is cheating

@sealion-5372 3 года назад

I know how to read too

@sanjeevkhurana6628 4 года назад

Imagine using engine and still not winning.

@Soer8808 4 года назад

It almost won. Eric is a beast however

@MrGreenBeanBeenBeanin 4 года назад

They obviously aren't using the best moves, they don't want to get banned in a single game.

@brandonovich6063 4 года назад

@@MrGreenBeanBeenBeanin that's what's so strange about it, they cheat but they can't fully cheat or they get banned, what's even the point? Why not just spent that time on ANYTHING else

@petergriffin6223 4 года назад

@@brandonovich6063 Its fun

@brandonovich6063 4 года назад

@@petergriffin6223 how? You're not doing anything

@crucifiedthief 4 года назад

online chess tip: If you imagine your screen an Eric Rosen video, and imagine hearing his commentary on thoughts and moves while you’re playing, it improves your game.

@noonetoremember1594 3 года назад

That's actually what I do, funny enough

@sasugage2168 3 года назад

Yeah it actually helps funnily enough

@erickb.4240 3 года назад

For real, I either do his voice or agadmator's

@janet3782 3 года назад

Haha good idea

@JBTYpr 3 года назад

Me using this advice: so this takes takes takes takes takes takes....

@boromijn9489 4 года назад

Eric: thinking several moves ahead and planning well in advance luisbasurto: "I do as the engine guides"

@jareldg.stream1742 3 года назад

not sure if that's a rick and morty reference or not

@dombloid 3 года назад

@@jareldg.stream1742 it is

@JimmyBoosterCrate 3 года назад

@@jareldg.stream1742 It always is. It gets referenced everywhere on the Internet for some reason.

@AcesHight 3 года назад

Technology is becoming more and more dangerous, the big tech companies are a danger.

@voidlight0472 3 года назад

@@JimmyBoosterCrate because it is a good show

@jonathandoeter351 4 года назад

I feel like it's not a "dirty" flag if you're playing against a cheater...

@MalcolmBlk 4 года назад

Was about to comment the same

@ngc5195 4 года назад

Yeah it’s pretty much the only way to win

@brianjacob8728 4 года назад

@@ngc5195 he drew. He didn't have material to win.

@ejflor1313 4 года назад

I kept reading it as “Trying to flag a dirty computer cheater.” Just move the word “dirty”.

@timothylee2772 4 года назад

Just because you're losing to a lower rated opponent doesn't necessarily assume that that opponent is cheating.

@Aaron-ec8uc 3 года назад

When I cheat I use Martin (250) so that it's not obvious.

@EliteCubingAlliance 3 года назад

Lol

@user-dh8oi2mk4f 3 года назад

@@Dducksquad have you or your friend gotten any better.

@ripmeep 3 года назад

@@user-dh8oi2mk4f Dude it's been like 2 days lol

@user-dh8oi2mk4f 3 года назад

@@ripmeep Dude, he said it was a year ago....

@ripmeep 3 года назад

@@user-dh8oi2mk4f mb my guy. missed that part carry on as usual soldier

@tajneeley 4 года назад

I played a cheater , he was a new Player playing so perfectly in rapid on lichess, I went to do a computer analysis and as soon as it finished a red “!” Appeared next to his name . He was cheating .

@viniciuslongo4622 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing

@starboiklem8381 4 года назад

@Fem Chick lol but you won't get better at chess by doing that so why not play normally?

@legrandliseurtri7495 4 года назад

@Fem Chick Wow, don't you feel ashamed?

@SpaceSanctum 4 года назад

@Fem Chick cheater

@cvndrmr 4 года назад

@Fem Chick ew, you shouldn't play with others then.

@craigchin 4 года назад

“I know what I’ll do today, set up an account for a game I can’t play and cheat so I always win!” .. what a waste of time, Id rather watch paint dry.

@colins1358 4 года назад

actually to be technical it could actually help a real chess player to see how to beat a master. in no way am I condoning cheating at all. but look at all sides to why something is done and maybe you can learn from POS people. when someone cheats I try to think of it as a free stockfish training session. in today's world. soon we will only be playing against bots. and POS people. truth is a dying race.

@legrandliseurtri7495 4 года назад

Most likely, this cheater did know how to play the game, he just wasn't able to play particulary well, so that made him angry.

@colins1358 4 года назад

@@legrandliseurtri7495 this whole cheating bs has gotten out of hand. no more morals left.

@craigchin 4 года назад

I wouldn’t assume this cheater will analyse the computers moves in order to learn how to be a better player during the game. They simply play the strongest move without thought with the aim to win. Post analysis of games you lose is sufficient for improving, not a tournament setting. If there was an argument to spin cheating into “technically” being morally sound, the cheater should still resign rather than go for mate. Fat chance of seeing that happen though.

@tajneeley 4 года назад

C Chinnock agreed

@augustocastellanos2948 3 года назад

Imagine being an actual grandmaster starting from scratch on a chess platform and getting banned for playing too good

@M.H_B 3 года назад

Even so, there are some moves that are very human-like/computer-like that's why that problem never happens.

@wanderingghost6841 3 года назад

Nah, this one is definitely using stockfish , the time it takes for him to move in the start and the end has a major shift in attitude , most likely is he tried to look “human” in the first few minutes but then completely threw it of the board when his time is closing in. Second is the opening , he has a questionable (try to france) opening, then had a inhuman move with the rook , to prevent repetition.

@KevinLuWX 3 года назад

Grandmasters don't take at 10 seconds for every move. Some of them are obvious and should take less than 1 second. This guy is obviously using engine because he's taking 10 seconds even with the obvious moves and he didn't know how to finish off at time scramble.

@teaser452 3 года назад

@@wanderingghost6841 I found the time when they were trading queens very suspicious.

@xXOniJahXx 3 года назад

A GM is a GM all game long. Not missing obvious moves when on clock pressure and finding godly moves when he has the time to use engines

@richardsleep2045 4 года назад

"I could just play against Stockfish" and he won!

@emrearmagan5359 4 года назад

No he didnt

@emrearmagan5359 4 года назад

He drew the game he didnt win

@angrygingerboss 4 года назад

It was a draw, one move from being check mated

@yesd2024 3 года назад

Well he would have won anyways because cheating takes time so he could just flag and force a win

@davidandressen7356 3 года назад

Also wasn't stockfish's highest level

@anon5041 3 года назад

5:07 Bb5+ Erick "oh that's a good move. oh wow, that's a really good move I have to take this seriously" lol

@legrandliseurtri7495 4 года назад

I'm impressed Eric even made it into the endgame with equal material. Like wow.

@hairballshampoo 4 года назад

erics videos are so quiet and calm whenever theres an ad i get jumpscared

@geckogeico2212 4 года назад

use uBlock Origin it works really well :)

@dajaco81 3 года назад

@@geckogeico2212 ... I think not. That would give Eric no ad revenue for his content. knob

@mikebaker2436 3 года назад

Yeah, stupid Fabreeze. Terrifying. 🤣🙃

@megugu2155 3 года назад

imagine cheating on chess like that would help you in anything. wont boost your ELO or even give you some skill for irl chess. The only thing youll get from cheating on chess is just emptiness from the realization that you wasted time moving pieces while improving nothing.

@anonymousfry 3 года назад

@Wim Harleev that's not an irony, stop trying to pull out an UNO reverse out of nowhere. The time taken to write a youtube comment is less than a minute

@kraber9817 3 года назад

@Wim Harleev Also, you really had to insult religion in the same scentence? Damn. I’m pretty sure you essentially embody the youtube comment section toxicity.

@cooliguess9287 3 года назад

@Wim Harleev imagine writing about wasting time IN A RU-vid REPLY SECTION. Has humanity really gone this far down???

@stuffwithsoph8264 3 года назад

Yeah, and playing and figuring out each move is fun

@stuffwithsoph8264 3 года назад

@Wim Harleev You critcize somebody for wasting time commenting on a RU-vid video but you're doing the exact same thing

@sharathiitm 4 года назад

There's one more account named 'luisbasurtochess' banned 9months ago.. this guys a serial cheater ,😄

@SoDamnMetal 4 года назад

That accounts banned for violating the Lichess terms of service though, not engine use. So not necessarily the same guy

@sharathiitm 4 года назад

One hell of a coincidence if it isn't the same guy...check out his games though..his wins against players rated 200-300 above him lol!!

@SoDamnMetal 4 года назад

@@sharathiitm im 2100 and 1500's beat me every now and then so beating players 200-300 points higher isn't that impressive or rare

@jimskea224 4 года назад

@@SoDamnMetal lichess has changed the wording they use for cheaters so as not to leave themselves open to litigation.

@notsmoothie 4 года назад

@@SoDamnMetal so what exactly can you violate in the TOS on a chess website lol 😂

@blakep1444 4 года назад

Imagine being an engine user and getting flagged in a 10 min game

@blakep1444 3 года назад

@etrestre Nothing is weird about a 10 min game but somebody who is using an engine can successfully complete a game in 3 mins no problem..

@irrelevant_noob 3 года назад

@@blakep1444 probably not against an IM tho...

@lucasemanuelgenova9179 3 года назад

4:04 love how the first thing Eric does after his opponent hang a pawn is to look the opponent's ratings

@ublade82 4 года назад

Could be engine analysis AND anonymous GM. You were playing Hikarufish

@vela7447 4 года назад

Stockamura

@zruth920 4 года назад

Stockamurafish

@myqii2567 4 года назад

Zruth killed it

@vit9480 4 года назад

Nakamura’s ceiling

@gonzalo4658 4 года назад

He was playing Hikaru and Nakamura

@Berzins69 3 года назад

I recently got into chess and chess youtubers, seen a bunch already, but two minutes in, and I just needed to say - Erics calmness makes me feel like I'm meditating.

@burchds84 4 года назад

Na3 is a move that stockfish plays in some french advance lines. I immediately felt like this is a computer playing.

@bangbangfan2184 4 года назад

Perhaps, but that's not conclusive. For example Na3 in the Advance French is a line that I learnt very early in my chess career from a dusty old book. That's an old concept.

@achyuththouta6957 4 года назад

When I was new to chess, I used to start with Na3

@Froge4291 3 года назад

I mean Na3 avoids getting the Knight getting attacked by pawns so it is understandable I think?

@maxwellmogadam399 3 года назад

Opponent: *moves into a open file* Erric: "wow that was nifty move"

@renerpho 3 года назад

That's the fun thing about engine moves. They look both unnatural and completely logical, to the point of seeming obvious.

@daddyofalltrades 4 года назад

I love your videos on playing against computer cheaters. It's so great watching them crumble under time pressure. You're a legend, Eric.

@RemyWillard 4 года назад

His videos on trying to flag Stockfish are good practice for this kind of situation.

@CristiNeagu 3 года назад

1:33 Funny that. Because until recently people used to go to bed when the sun set, we don't really have a greeting when meeting someone at 1am. "Good night" is a farewell, not a greeting. and "good evening" only applies to evenings, not nights.

@danielwood1928 3 года назад

And it was in this position that Stockfish blundered the game.

@ahcryz2543 3 года назад

He wasnt playing full go or he'd get banned. other than that, stockfish 11 ( 3800 elo ) Is unbeatable in even 10 games match.

@user-dg4qz2zy4d 4 года назад

Eric: "white is playing well" Stockfish: thanks! Edit: thanks everyone for the like and thanks for eric for his amazing content

@gonzalo4658 4 года назад

🤣🤣🤣😭

@amaan-khan 4 года назад

Why are you thanking for likes?

@jojo_siwafanboy1093 4 года назад

amaan khan shut up

@pavlakrobi2515 4 года назад

@@jojo_siwafanboy1093 mad

@jojo_siwafanboy1093 4 года назад

Imperator robi thanks

@B3Band 4 года назад

Followed along with Stockfish. That weird Na3 move and the e7 move at the end were the only ones played that weren't one of the top two Stockfish moves. You only played (I think) two or three that weren't top 2. His computer must be really shitty to need Stockfish to calculate for 10-20 seconds every time and end up flagging. My computer found the move he was going to play within 1-2 seconds.

@kenmendoza6932 4 года назад

Taking 10 seconds to move doesnt mean he has a shit computer. Engine usually analyzes moves for a certain amount of time before picking the top move regardless the position. Thats why time usage is constant.

@rykehuss3435 3 года назад

@@kenmendoza6932 Engines can spit out great moves in fraction of a second, those moves are more than enough to beat any human. They would just lose against the same engine if it had more time per move. Engines analyze against themselves, they dont know anything about human play or what the players are actually doing or their ideas.

@jared4575 3 года назад

They might have been using an analysis game on another tab so switching between tabs and manually putting in moves may have made it slower

@renerpho 3 года назад

This may not have anything to do with either the computer or the engine. They may be knowing so little about chess that they don't know which moves are natural and which require thought, and so they try to keep the time consistent in an attempt to not raise suspicion. It has the exact opposite effect of what's intended, but that just reinforces the notion that they are stupid.

@NotElusivePanda 4 года назад

Me in relationships: 20:34

@philshumble6954 4 года назад

😂😂

@verp4779 4 года назад

Nice

@mawash0309 4 года назад

Lol

@artursnikulins2712 4 года назад

lol. 18:40 this is mine

@gonzalo4658 4 года назад

Arturs Nikulins 🤣

@chaptermastermoloc4171 4 года назад

I'm average chess player and played this guy which was losing and I was up material. Then suddenly he started to play very accurate move and lost to him. I was never salty about it coz at least in my mind I thought, "hey this guy cheated to beat me in chess".

@WhiteBlackCoffee 4 года назад

Not necessarily a cheater. I myself was on the both ends here: sometimes you get too cocky when up the material and can easily miss an opportunity window that your opponent can use for their advantage. P.S. I am just an amateur below 1500 lichess points in rapid, so this might not be correct in higher-rated games.

@Kreamations 4 года назад

David Van Voorhis sometimes people say “this guy” when they mean they’re talking about a story. Like for example. “Like one time *this guy* showed up at my house” etc

@skepticmoderate5790 4 года назад

@@Kreamations That's how I read it as well.

@Kreamations 4 года назад

@@skepticmoderate5790 Yessir!

@affirmonego5202 3 года назад

@@Kreamations i'm not a native speaker, so thanks for explaining this

@maloxi1472 4 года назад

Title should be: *"Trying to Flag a Dirty Computer Cheater"*

@Xtat1cNP 3 года назад

And he listened!

@zziippee 3 года назад

exactly what i was thinking LOL

@xiaoweiwang01 3 года назад

@@Xtat1cNP no the title was trying to dirty flag a computer cheater

@elindauer 3 года назад

This is a win to be proud of, you fought really well. Fascinating to watch both sides find resources right to the end, even if one side is a computer.

@charlied.310 4 года назад

1:30 Eric accidentally quotes the Truman Show

@justsomegoosewithinterneta4199 3 года назад

I used to have that pfp on a random website a long time ago and seeing it felt kinds nostalgic lol

@joekinder7562 3 года назад

i've been recommended this video hundreds of times by youtube over many many weeks and ive finally given in. i hope it's worth it

@abhijeetgore310 4 года назад

Really appreciate ur vidoes!!

@joaomacedo3299 4 года назад

His vidoes are great

@filler8684 4 года назад

Yeah he makes some good vidoes

@hatemondays3225 4 года назад

Vidoe killed the radoi star

@18yodeadlifter 3 года назад

Bro his vidoes are good

@adsantos98 3 года назад

Eric: *on a losing position* "Could have been mate in one!" Me: *time runs out for the opponent* "Miracles do exist!"

@S0dif 3 года назад

You look like the kind of guy with a unibrow, but dosnt

@SkylerAshby88 4 года назад

Eric, when you're playing blindfolded, is the chess board in your head also blue?

@supersoupss 4 года назад

its a glow in the dark green

@Shadab9617 3 года назад

It is the first board we see in life, probably the 2d one

@loicb4880 3 года назад

@@Shadab9617 ok I might be dumb, but isn’t playing chess with a blindfold just guessing?

@berrithoughtfull 3 года назад

@@loicb4880 lmao no

@RobbyGAMEZ 3 года назад

@@loicb4880 No the players have to memorize the board

@icee1826 3 года назад

I look pretty sus when i play chess cause i take a long while to do my moves but im actually just scrolling through instagram while im playing and get distracted

@zts99 3 года назад

And you also don’t play exactly like stockfish like this guy did.

@mraroboy2905 3 года назад

Am I the only one watching chess players knowing practical nothing about chess and loving it ?

@idkm8629 3 года назад

really enjoy the way they think

@WissenGeil 3 года назад

yes u are

@ImEverythingYouCrave 3 года назад

Bro watching Eric rosen is so relaxing. He's like so polite and kind

@TymexComputing 4 года назад

The account has been closed - so a one time cheater that wanted to be thought of a shy GM :). Unfortunately cheaters usually manage to play faster time controls and it already has been 10 minutes +0.

@geckogeico2212 4 года назад

It's also pretty obvious when they have a ? at the end of their rating

@trendy10s36 4 года назад

Why would you have a chance to play against an IM in a slow game (let alone the legendary Eric Rosen) and use a freaking ENGINE?? I really dont understand these people

@farshadmh3350 4 года назад

because they are sick, they have mental problem, in the real world they could not be succeed and that's why they try to hurt people :) it's simple, just block and ignore them, this is best favor for them to do

@viniciuslongo4622 4 года назад

@Farshad MH wow man calm down. You are literally describing a sociopath. It could be just kids faking their rating. Chill!

@christofferfuglset190 4 года назад

These guys don't care or have any clue of what chess is. That's why they cheat, to get a cheap plessure of victory on false premisses. It's not even necesarry to look at the analysis to decide if he are cheating or not. Any player who are able to outplay an IM like that are also able to premove the final moves into checkmate.

@noahcoleman6385 4 года назад

@Filip Gasic he did make valid connections though. People who are computer cheaters probably struggle in the real world because they don't know what success feels like, they have to cut corners.

@farshadmh3350 4 года назад

@@viniciuslongo4622 it's possible yes I agree it can be kid but if cheater is 30 years old then how can you explain this behavior? :)

@finnhackapell6560 4 года назад

It ain't dirty if he's cheating in the first place :P

@EndermansWrath 4 года назад

@@williamgaines594 agreed

@genericusername4206 4 года назад

he was complimenting him so much too

@DeBert 4 года назад

I couldn't watch this live, but I would get very suspicious after him taking 10 seconds for 16. axb5... (@10:23) Edit: And 19. Nxd6 (9sec, @11:32) would confirm stuff.

@emmanuelhoule8070 3 года назад

Imagine ruining your own soul and self-esteem to try prove something to strangers who dont give a dam and that youll never see.

@TheZodiacdragons 3 года назад

Common phrase in these cheat videos: "Opponent is playing good despite the bad opening." Who says Chessmasters aren't considerate? lol

@DevDreCW 3 года назад

I have starting trying to learn more of chess, I feel like I'm barely playing at a 1000 right now, the problem is that a computer tells me what is and isn't a good move, but not why.. I'm watching more top players and hoping they give some insight into moves, and you certainly do. Much appreciated. I follow Ludvig Hammer too but he tends to trail off into mumbling when he concentrates haha

@RichterVonFuchs 3 года назад

Yeah I have the same issue. When it tells me I made a blunder and look it's pretty obvious but when I do an okay move and it tells me another move is better I usually can't tell why it's a better move unless it leads to material or a better position within a few moves. Eric and Levy has been pretty good, doesn't trail off as often as Ludvig does. Good luck fella 1000ish player.

@gironimo800 4 года назад

Really appreciate the videos. Ben Finegold is like watching a sarcastic street hustler play and Nakamura thinks he's a rockstar with groupies. You by far are the best at showing how a chess player thinks. Thanks

@vindoodles7346 4 года назад

thinks? He IS a rockstar with groupies lol

@xleXithx 4 года назад

This video encouraged me to subscribe on Twitch. Keep up the great work Eric.

@B3Band 4 года назад

There's no such thing as dirty flag. If you agree to a ten minute game, and you can't checkmate me in 10 minutes, you lose. If you don't like it, don't play 10 minutes. If you're ahead in material, but way down on the clock, I'm no longer playing in a way to win material. I'm playing quickly and defensively to make sure you can't mate me. It's not fair to me if I'm considered "dirty" for playing with the rules we established right at the start.

@Robert-jy9jm 3 года назад

I couldn't agree more!

@cristianstoica4544 3 года назад

the rules include also not having assistance of any kind

@nathan164 4 года назад

Eric: doesn’t know he’s playing Magnus Carlson *wins* Eric: plays against an engine *up a piece throughout most of the game and draws* I feel like Eric’s a little more than an IM, take off that mask Stockfish!!

@abdullahimran4624 3 года назад

Yeah he has a 2-0 against Magnus carlson, has beat stockfish (in the form of computer cheaters) many times and is absurdly good at variations of chess like 960 and 4 player.

@rykehuss3435 3 года назад

@@abdullahimran4624 In the form of bad cheaters. A good one would destroy him in only 2 minutes.

@maxmustermann3223 3 года назад

@@rykehuss3435 It depends on the Elo. You can tell the engines at what elo they are supposed to play.

@rykehuss3435 3 года назад

@@maxmustermann3223 Why would you cheat with a handicapped engine?

@maxmustermann3223 3 года назад

@@rykehuss3435 So its less obvious. If you play against somebody with 1900 Elo and the Engine goes with 2000 its not as obvious as with 3000

@maniniescobar244 4 года назад

In the end after rook f1 you had to take the pawn and start checking with your rook. This is my wise flagging experience

@prussia9255 4 года назад

I think it's just that Stockfish is now sentient

@leonardsmith9870 4 года назад

As much as I like lichess I've found myself playing elsewhere lately because of how rampant the cheaters are getting in the tournaments. Outside of the tournaments half the time I'm winning the opponent just runs their clock to 0 and all they do is a 10 minute temporary ban, so essentially nothing, about it.

@legrandliseurtri7495 4 года назад

I was salty and let my clock tick down a few times in the past. But now I force myself to resign even when it's frustrating, perhaps partly because some of my opponents did that too(but not many, I don't know if I'm lucky, but I rarely encounter cheaters or players like that).

@carrottoponcrak 4 года назад

Same. It's also why I stick to 5|0 now

@vanillesosse 4 года назад

@@legrandliseurtri7495 I dont get it, what is the motivation behind it? To get the rating points, or just to annoy a stranger? It baffles me why so many do this? Its just so pathetic and childish

@yeagerist977 4 года назад

@@vanillesosse to annoy a stranger

@carrottoponcrak 4 года назад

@@yeagerist977 to make themselves feel better because I assume they sadly don't get enough attention in their real life

@user-gs6qu7ih3u 3 года назад

14:58 *I like the fact that's my opponent's thinking...* The opponent: *thinking of how to Cheat*

@jackjoseph4226 3 года назад

Now whenever I face a slightly strong player I am thinking "Yeah this guy is definitely using an engine"

@delboy723 3 года назад

It's a pity Eric didn't have a meaningless pawn left on the board, and get a win. It'd be justice if the other player was cheating.

@TheMerchantGuild 3 года назад

Guy plays well Eric: Guess ill make another cheater video

@yaakovborovoi5905 3 года назад

Eric: *looks at move times, sees they're literally a straight line* Eric: move times a little suspicious

@VideoGameManiac8 4 года назад

I love it when you play against computers :D

@dradis5185 4 года назад

4:12 inTEResTinG Definitely no lingling references here...

@marcantony7816 4 года назад

Hmmmmmmmmmm ;)

@dradis5185 3 года назад

@@2piee Ling ling is the god of everything. Remember to practice 40 hours a day. Lol, can I post this on Reddit?

@shrimp9199 3 года назад

I- woah.... all praise Ling Ling imma go practice now lol

@hv7978 3 года назад

Man I just LOVE the fast play option in YT

@VikSun14618 3 года назад

God I feel so bad for Eric about this happening. He’s blinking a lot more at the end because even though he knows there’s something up and he’s frustrated with the outcome of the game he joined to have fun, and this was not that. God that must have sucked so much, and good on you Eric for getting your rating refund.

@samlacey7832 3 года назад

What a beautiful response to being cheated. Eric you absolute gem of a human ❤️

@Jiffy_Park 4 года назад

Eric have you played against leela? Much more fun than playing against stockfish, her moves feel more human

@Crazmuss 4 года назад

for 0:48 knight is a mamluk bishop is a strelets rook is a tura queen is vizier king is mage pawn is spear

@douglas7656 3 года назад

i love how by move 10 you were already calling him "it"

@uno-theofficialcardgamebyMatel 3 года назад

2 questions 1: how do you cheat at online chess 2: why would you cheat at online chess?

@Exter_15 3 года назад

1. You play a match against stockfish and move whatever your opponent moves. 2. Gain (dirty) ELO

@psyneur9182 3 года назад

1. a computer tells you what moves to do 2. you are a sad loser that nobody likes and have to rely to cheating in competitive games to get even small doses of happiness

@samslam4612 3 года назад

It's sad really. I used to love playing rapid, but that thought of "maybe my opponent is cheating" gave me too much anxiety, and I stopped playing rapid.

@utkajmatke863 3 года назад

maybe. so what? he get the ban, you get the refund elo

@Victor.Hugo1 3 года назад

Imagine just sitting there and counting "10, 9, 8, 7, 6,..." for every move you make even when you know what the move is immediately

@opinionday0079 3 года назад

Everytime I lose I know its that damn Fisher guy again

@lucasmatsuoca 4 года назад

Well, i think Eric hold it pretty well, surviving the opening and the midgame against the engine, usually i have a decisive disadvantage in the first 10 moves against cheaters xD, i guess I'm not a IM

@Jcorry123 4 года назад

I might be wrong, but I think the opponent didn't turn on the engine during the opening.

@lucasmatsuoca 4 года назад

@@Jcorry123 imo he did, cause the time per move was suspicious since the opening, but all we can do is speculate

@31redorange08 4 года назад

You can see his opponent played mediocre in the opening.

@lucasmatsuoca 4 года назад

@@31redorange08 yeah, i just saw the analysis now, maybe he turned on the engine after the pawn drop

@faznaz7455 4 года назад

Lucas Matsuoka I would go by the fact that he made only 2 inaccuracies against an IM in some weird theoretical position for the entire game. He made a bunch of suboptimal moves before going full Stockfish 10 later on.

@12jswilson 4 года назад

Closed his account before he could be caught cheating... Rg1 is a super GM move to find in Rapid and probably not even them

@ahmadshokry5945 4 года назад

Not that difficult of a move, I spotted that before him and my rating is about 1900+ because you can easily see the possibility of pinning the bishop. But the suspicious thing is that he found several brilliant ideas in the same rapid game, not just a single idea

@venivini5151 4 года назад

rg1 wasn't a super gm move. just a good move

@maxkho00 4 года назад

Rf1 (combined with g4 and only then Rg1) was much more of a brilliant find, tbh. Rg1 by itself wasn't that hard to find.

@venivini5151 4 года назад

@@maxkho00 agree

@xbubbahotep 3 года назад

both dark square bishops were so sad for most of the game.

@daltonfury6749 3 года назад

At The Grandmaster level the problem really just comes down to knowing if you're playing against the computer. I think that's what makes most good players like me so mad is that we can't play normal and we're not sure we're being cheated by computational analysis during the game.

@name_blank 3 года назад

I feel you bro. Everyone I lose to are also dirty computer cheaters.

@xxcattoxx544 3 года назад

Tod

@glennsophie3235 4 года назад

I really have no idea why someone would want to cheat. What is the point, they are only cheating themselves.

@Gruesome_j 4 года назад

Some people dont care how they win because they have no honor,

@glennsophie3235 4 года назад

@@Gruesome_j No honour, no pride and no principles. Pointless in all respects

@LazoGT 4 года назад

I was a computer cheater at one point. It was satisfying to beat my friends and other people with extreme precision. I think it was also fun to see them try to beat a computer, and have them miserably fail. I didn't care about rating, I only played casual, because I'd feel bad about having people lose their ratings to something completely unfair. I play legit now, 1800 player, though I don't play as much anymore, also haven't used an engine in more than 8 months now.

@glennsophie3235 4 года назад

@@LazoGT interesting view point. I'm only a 1000 player but all I see is that people work hard to earn their ratings.

@Liwet. 4 года назад

I've found it's a good way to warm up your hands for playing other competitive games like League or CS:GO.

@user-ee5eb7ku4j 2 года назад

me guessing a move that surprised Eric: I don't need an engine, I AM AN ENGINE!

@GeneralBlorp 4 года назад

One of the most enjoyable people you will ever watch play or theorize about chess.

@ibrahimseck8520 4 года назад

You are really unlucky to play so many cheaters...I played over 2,000 games on Lichess and could hardly remember any instance where I suspected my opponent of cheating,. Granted I am only a 1,600 rated player but I always analyse my games with stockfish

@TheColdestplay 4 года назад

could be a stream sniper. streaming chess or even having a title might edge someone to use an engine for abit

@nolifeorname5731 4 года назад

I think cheaters usually skip the 1600 rating levels. I encountered a couple of cheaters when I was ~1500. Lichess is pretty good at flagging them so they usually don't make it that far

@user-yk8cj8so8v 3 года назад

Brilliant moves maestro, you played against 3700+👍

@CallMeQuinnie 4 года назад

20:30 minutes in bishop to H4 by white is a missed win threaten to next turn advance pawn; and if trades are made with rook then pawn upgrade into queen for discover check as well

@F83Marc 3 года назад

i don't even play chess and idk what's going on but this looks interesting

@xxcattoxx544 3 года назад

Try chess tod and 99 doctor's recommendations

@benhsuan4817 4 года назад

"if i can trade... thats what life is all about... at least when you're up material" As in chess, so in capitalism!

@yakzivz1104 3 года назад

Instead of cheating, white had a short golden oppurtunity to fork black's bishop and king with his rook on d7.

@hunner4760 3 года назад

this video is so relaxing

@connor3640 3 года назад

the way this guy speaks reminds me of the twitch streamer 5up

@wanderingtowonder 3 года назад

ikr

@Hasan... 4 года назад

Dirty Flagging a cheater is not at all Dirty. They deserve this.

@DLewis-pn8yo 3 года назад

flagging a cheater is how you know you're an advances chess player, it take positional skillz to quell the dankness of stonkfish!

@spxdel8520 3 года назад

The fact that he was that far ahead of you in time makes it look really sus like there was no planning or thought process whatsoever from his side

@udon_noods 4 года назад

Title: Trying to flag Stockfish

@michaellatsky 4 года назад

When he wins: 21:30 Realing he played a bot: 23:05

@moonshark4909 4 года назад

It was a draw. If you can’t mate with the pieces you have, you can’t win with a flag.

@rhoddryice5412 4 года назад

@@moonshark4909 I didn't know that. Good to know.

@maxkho00 4 года назад

@@rhoddryice5412 Well, Michael sure didn't. Your comment is inappropriate.

@icantthinkofaname5950 4 года назад

It was a draw

@alexandersweeney6182 4 года назад

Max Khovansky I think you misread his comment. He’s saying that he ~didn’t~ know that so he’s kinda thanking Davis for informing him.

@heavymetalyogi1767 3 года назад

My opponent: pushes d4 Me: hmmm that’s an interesting move 🧐

@davewestner 3 года назад

jeez, gotta be tough being a really good and serious chess player and having to worry about people cheating against them. what a shame

@Corteum 4 года назад

Was a legit flag against a cheater-troll. Just wondering why lichess algorithms aren't sufficient to detect it. You'd think move times, switching windows, overall move selection (from all previous games) compared against computer choices, would be a clear giveaway.

@abonc2146 3 года назад

switching windows? lol wdym

@Corteum 3 года назад

@@abonc2146 C'mon, you c an figure it out!

@abonc2146 3 года назад

@@Corteum dude switching windows won't let no trace for moderators of any site to figure out facepalm

@Corteum 3 года назад

@@abonc2146 youre obviously not aware of the fact that window switching can be detected. asspalm. lol

@abonc2146 3 года назад

@@Corteum nope, I, as a informatic engineer, have no clue :) even if that was true, it takes no effort to avoid switching windows.

@tonchette7993 3 года назад

2:33 hes legit playing Sicilian but with white

@10thletter40 3 года назад

Sometimes thats what an engine does to you, makes you a whole move behind even if you are one ahead

@tonchette7993 3 года назад

@@10thletter40 whachu mean?

@10thletter40 3 года назад

@@tonchette7993 Oh it didnt mean anything much at all dw

@tonchette7993 3 года назад

@@10thletter40 i wonder how you can use it though, im new to chess so i dont know how to use the sicillian that much

@10thletter40 3 года назад

Well there are lots of different variations which make it so useful, even for white. I am not nearly versed enough to explain it though 😅@@tonchette7993