TTL vs Manual Flash in the Studio: Take and Make Great Photography with Gavin Hoey

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If you shoot in a studio with flash you have the choice between setting the flash power yourself (manual flash) or handing that job over to your camera and flash (TTL flash). Both have real advantages over the other and both have some drawbacks. So which is right for you? That's the question Gavin Hoey asks himself as he takes on the challenge of shooting three different shots in both Manual and TTL flash.
With TTL flash technology having come on a long way in the past few years, Gavin finds the results are a real eye opener but will it be enough to tempt him away from his preferred manual flash shooting? Watch to the end for his personal verdict.
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@KAR120C69 5 лет назад

Those 'antennae' at the end... nice! And yes - using TTL is great when you know the LimiTaTions of it. Key is knowing those limitations and adjust when you know TTL might or will get "confused" giving result you don't want. In controlled environment & needing maximum consistently manual is the best. TTL = LimiTaTions

@barkyvonschnauzer2188 5 лет назад

Gav' is a true master. I 'av learnt so much from him.

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

Thanks for the kind words 😊

@ianlewer2328 2 года назад

Another perfect video by Gavin.

@batworker 5 лет назад

I’ve played around with flash but not used it much to actually photograph things! I found TTL got much of what I was practicing with ok, but the more I tried to get fancier effects the less well it worked. Nice to see you found the same thing!

@TheSmartWoodshop 5 лет назад

Gavin, it is good to acknowledge the power of the tools we photographers have at our disposal. I tend toward manual flash but rarely use a light meter though I should. Starting with TTL and switching to Manual also works well and I tend to go there before pulling out a meter. All arrows in our quiver, we should use them all. Thanks.

@dunnymonster 5 лет назад

Call me old fashioned but I much prefer manual flash although I'll happily use TTL for event photography where changing light conditions doesn't permit time faffing about manually. Anyway Gavin, brilliant as always, oh and upgrade your lightmeter to the Sekonic L858D and you can meter for HSS too 😉

@LaGaspa 5 лет назад

One major thing that was not pointed out, and I assume you were probably doing this, to your viewers is to make sure they compensate exposure IN the flash not compensate on the camera body when using TTL!! Big difference. One advantage of using TTL on your flash is to set your camera controls to manual. The flash will expose accordingly (i.e. 1/250 @ 2.8). Most high-end speedlights, like the Nikon SB-910, has high speed sync, exposing perfectly... for me at least.

@slicksidviscousCH 5 лет назад

A significant & important factor not addressed when using Ttl was the metering mode on the camera and what that meter was sampling. That makes a difference as to the ttl calculation and output. Personally I find when I use ttl the result is typically over exposed. So like others, I’ll use ttl for the first shot as a quick way to establish a flash setting (versus a light meter).

@MikeJamesMedia 5 лет назад

Thanks, Gavin. Like you, I was a bit surprised at how well TTL did in the early part of the shoot, and the other issues were what I'd expect. Well explained!

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

It took me by surprise too Mike but I guess that the progress of technology

@JuanLopezmusica Год назад

I’m using manual. I tried couple times TTL, but I didn’t like it. I think the best way to get the shoot you want is with manual mode!

@pattymattes7124 5 лет назад

I just did some shots with TTL the other night. I then switched to manual. You're right. It depends on circumstances. I love your videos.

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

Hi Patty. Spot on, there's no rights or wrongs. When TTL flash first come out I loved it, then hated it and now appreciate it's value in the wide world of photography.

@ajaxrodriguez8956 5 лет назад

Gavin, you make it look so easy! I love your work. The look of this shoot is inspirational!

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

Thanks Ajax :)

@bellacavachon7510 5 лет назад

Very useful exercise. Simply and graphically demonstrated. Nice job, Gav.

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

Thanks Tony

@MarkSommerDk 5 лет назад

Just want to say thank you for a fantastic inspiration through the years.

@gryzman 3 года назад

I love these glasses

@johnlehman2761 5 лет назад

Thanks, this is a very current issue for me as I’ve moved from studio moonlights to the AD200 which can do TTL so far have only used them in manual, but TTL with one light looks doable but probably not with multiple ones

@gosman949 5 лет назад

I use the TCM function all the time to get me close. Don't need to use my light meter then!

@TheRowi62 5 лет назад

That's exactly what I wanted to tell Gavin, too

@petermaraga2930 5 лет назад

Great Gavin you make it look so easy....

@EWImages 5 лет назад

This was an insightful video and showed the benefits as well as disadvantages of using TTL

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

Thanks. Yep, there's good and not so good features in both TTL and Manual flash. The skill is learning which to use in what circumstances 😉

@tw9535 5 лет назад

I really like TTL under two conditions: (1) I don't have the time to get it right, like at some events (2) I am only using one light, like at some events But once things get more complicated and interesting, like mixtures (ratios) between ambient and strobes or multiple strobes then I don't even think about TTL at all, going straight to manual and my beloved light meter.

@beachbum4691 5 лет назад

The comments below reinforce Gavins finding but also add quite a lot - well worth a few minutes reading :)

@novotnyphoto 2 года назад

Thanks!

@joevrose1 5 лет назад

Woah! That TCM button is quite intriguing! I have this transmitter and just learned something new and VERY useful! I should have read the manual :( Thanks Gavin!

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

It's a very handy feature for sure 🙂

@theymstudio1387 5 лет назад

Another great video!! Thanks for the help and support!!!! :)

@tsmithdotks 5 лет назад

Great video as always Gavin. I'm still a manual guy though.

@LtDeadeye 3 года назад

I’m new to flash photography and I like to use manual with multiple lighting setups. I have the Godox AD300 lights and every 10 shots or so (not exact) in manual mode, the lights waaay over expose.

@jessemartinez2606 5 лет назад

Gavin is the best

@CharlieLiuPhotography 5 лет назад

Great tip about the TCM function

@David_O 2 года назад

Another great tutorial Gavin and very happy to see another Olympus shooter. I am curious as to what metering you were using for the TTL? I have found - thanks to a tip from Mike Fulton - that using using spot metering gives me more consistent results especially if I meter on the part that I want properly exposed, e.g. faces. Any thoughts on that?

@one4allall4one91 5 лет назад

In a studio I will always use manual but recently outdoors I returned to using manual mode. TTL was not giving me the results I wanted. My last shoot proved manual mode is king. TTL is for the quick point and shoots.

@iPhotographyCo 5 лет назад

great video, really helpful information.

@ShaneBaker 5 лет назад

Thanks Gavin. Kind of what I expected as I've been VERY pleasantly surprised at how good TTL is with my Godox gear on my D850. I'm not surprised the TTL bombed in the later shots - but you did do a torture test! :-)

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

Thanks Shane. I pushed TTL until it didn't work for me but along the way I surprised myself with just how quick and accurate TTL has become for simpler shoots.

@tristanwilhelm9600 5 лет назад

Great video as always Gavin, but I do find myself mimicking the way you say your name... Now if only I could mimic your photos too 🤣

@rhondamoore9842 5 лет назад

I always say “small home studio” with an accent (not my native Texan one)!

@R0dan 4 года назад

Interesting 👍

@MrPhotomode 3 года назад

I'm guessing here that the studio flash is communicating with your camera the same way a dedicated flash would. Apart from your trigger is this a social feature of your studio flash unit or does the trigger handle all this?

@williamborges3914 5 лет назад

Another great video, Gavin! Many, many thanks. 'Just curious, where did you or Sam find that really cool toy ray gun? 🚀

@volodymyrvirovkin3260 5 лет назад

Hi from Poland!! Only M with Seconik-308D

@birdie399 5 лет назад

Great video. Full of information as usual. Thanks for sharing your skills.

@didimiorios3781 5 лет назад

Great test, thanks!

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching

@Strongbear2013 3 года назад

Thanks for the informative video. Does that mean that with a TTL flash one would not use or require a light meter? I noticed you were never using one until you switched to manual. But your transmitter has modes for both TTL and manual, is that correct? Does that also mean that if I were to get a speedlight such as a Canon which is designated as ETTL that it would only shoot as TTL or can it function as a manual flash? Thanks.

@anthonyknight5114 5 лет назад

In my opinion, TTL is a crutch. It can be useful at times for sure, but I feel that the problem with it is that most people who use it and say it fails, don't really understand reflective metering and their camera's metering modes to begin with. TTL WILL NOT give you completely automatic perfect exposures. Considerations based on what the camera is seeing NEED to be taken into account BEFORE the shutter is pressed and then fine tuned after.

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

Oddly I say the same sort of thing when teaching how a light meter works. It's a guide to what's "correct" but that's not necessarily what you want.

@christopherstark6773 5 лет назад

You have some of the most creative shoot ideas. Is that shiny material (in the second set of shots) a home made background/prop or something that can be readily purchased online somewhere? It had great texture for the theme, and the round shape was interesting on the wider shots.

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

Thanks Christopher. The shiny background is a Flashpoint reflector, the link is in the description but it's... ru-vid.com?event=video_description&v=VXztfw4aG_o&redir_token=65uyGW6g1ph_kDUmJO0rziL3Oq18MTU2NDc2MjU0NEAxNTY0Njc2MTQ0&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.adorama.com%2Fglcrwp52.html%3FDyoutube%26Dsocial%26DTTL%2520vs%2520Manual%2520Flash%2520in%2520the%2520Studio%253A%2520Take%2520and%2520Make%2520Great%2520Photography%2520with%2520Gavin%2520Hoey%26Dvideo

@reimonandisuwa 5 лет назад

Thanks Gavin. I thought my TTL is broken :D

@fabioeduardobertolinidemor6812 5 лет назад

good video...!!!!!

@artisticcompose 5 лет назад

Great video! Could you talk a bit more about the background you used for the first shot?

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

The first (and last) shots are against my studio wall. It's a DIY build and details are here www.gavtrain.com/?p=3824 The second shooting against a Flashpoint reflector and you'll find the link to that in the video description.

@MrWillstauk 5 лет назад

Hey Gavin, I’m having an issue with flash compensation on the XPro. When I dial in a compensation it doesn’t change the value on the Ad200pro or 400pro. It doesn’t seem to change it to TTL 0.3 visually on the unit for example and the pictures all expose the same even if I under exposure compensate by 3 stops

@mikemcq8703 5 лет назад

Another great video... just curious as to the dimensions of your home studio ?

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

Thanks Mike. My studio space is roughly 13' by 26' by 8' high. More info here scottkelby.com/guest-blog-wednesday-featuring-gavin-hoey

@BillHardman 5 лет назад

Informative video you put out. Question though, When you are using Manual I see you wanted F4 to show and you kept hitting something on the Godox trigger. What exactly were you changing? I thought the light meter would tell you what settings to put the camera in?

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

I'm pressing the flash test button on the transmitter. The flash meter then tells me the aperture achieved by the light it sees.

@kirstyhepworth7343 5 лет назад

I like the video it was amazing

@christianofslager8078 5 лет назад

Good video. I would have played Rock Lobster during the shoot

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

We always play music during the shoot and NEVER what you hear on the videos... something about copyright infringement issues ;)

@Hdfromabove 5 лет назад

This is great, but don't the Godox/Flashpoint TTL systems have a 'hold feature' where it will keep the last TTL setting until you make a change? This would be good for those TTL situations like the last one (where you used TTL)

@Hdfromabove 5 лет назад

oops -- just got to the end of the video! lol that's what I get for commenting BEFORE finishing! lol

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

@@Hdfromabove I commend you on your enthusiasm... and thank you for making it to the end :)

@vic_the_roman 5 лет назад

TTL has it's place . Still, I rather shoot Manual.

@andrewareva4605 5 лет назад

I hear you can charge more if you use more gear. So if you use a meter, you can charge more.

@GavinHoey 5 лет назад

I hear that too Andrew but never experienced it :(

@P1ratRuleZZZ 5 лет назад

Lol, years of experience, that is all only for returning to using TTL :) and we see that experience won. Unless they will integrate AI into a camera which will be tought by Gavin once